Okay so a lot of people use PayPal (obviously), and a lot of people have been banned in the past and want to get back in, or want a 2nd account for their "blackhat" activities. Point is I'm gonna try and outline the basics on having a 100% anonymous (or close to it) PayPal account, and none of your activities being traceable. Sounds impossible? It's not. I've used PayPal a lot in the past and I know quite a bit on how their system works. A lot of what I say below is pretty basic stuff, so I apologise if it's no use to some. But it might help a few out, so it's worth it IMHO.

First thing to understand is that the majority of PayPal's activities are automated. That means they have security algorithms (bots) running 24/7 365. Think about it, PayPal has over 70 million active accounts! There is no way humans could monitor them all. So yeah, this is basic shit, but it's an important point to keep in mind. EVERYTHING you do is being monitored by some bot, not a human. Of course if your account is limited, or someone makes a direct complaint, a human will look into it, but until that point it's automated.

Second thing to understand is that they literally do monitor EVERYTHING. From basic things to what IP you log in under, to complex stuff like how many seconds you take to do certain tasks. Seriously, if you can think of it, most chances are PayPal have a bot monitoring it. Now I only know a hand full of what they monitor, I'm sure there are 100s of things I have no clue about. The main ones you have to worry about though in my experience are your IP, how much money you pump through your account, and charge backs. If you keep a clean IP, keep money transactions reasonable, and get no charge backs, chances are PayPal will leave you alone.

The first important step is setting up a clean IP. FORGET proxies. Do not even bother going there. They are totally useless for accounts that you are logging into more than once. The only real solution is a dedicated VPN. This will cost you about $15 a month, and there are a shit load of places to buy them from. Now if you're really security concious, you need to buy the VPN itself anonymously. So find someone who accepts WebMoney. Once you have your VPN take note of the state it's in. This is where your profile information is going to come from. So now simply go to one of the online directories (example switchboard.com) and look for someone in the area your VPN is located. If your VPN is in Miami, FL, go do a search for John Smith in Miami, FL. Simple. Make note of the address info and save this to a file.

Go make your PayPal account with those details and be sure to enter everything correctly. For email use AOL. It looks pretty legit. Gmail or Yahoo are fine also. PayPal know the majority of online users either have a Yahoo, AOL, or Gmail account, so they don't care too much about that (unless you're applying as a business).

Once you've verified your email address now comes the important part. We're going to add an anonymous bank account to fully verify the account. How we gonna do that? No not with one of those shitty online wallet systems, we need to go find a prepaid debit card that supports direct deposit. This can be really easy, or really hard, depending on your location. If you're in the US chances are a local store will sell one. If you're outside the US you need to buy one from someone else. Assuming you are indeed within America go to your local store and look for something called an nFinanSe card. These things are awesome for PayPal. Or if you're not bothered about getting a personalised card sent to your address, you can use another one called Mio Card. They work fine too. I'm skipping over quite a few things here, but the basic premise is we don't care what address is registered on the prepaid card because it doesn't matter. PayPal cannot tell. When you withdraw money via ACH the only problem you might have is different names on your PayPal account and prepaid card, but I've found that most times that doesn't matter either.

Assuming you've purchased an nFinanSe card, first thing to do is activate it by calling their automated number and setting an ATM PIN. The minimum load for this card is $50, so you want to get as much of your investment back as possible. You should have no problem going straight to an ATM and withdrawing $40. So you total investment (out of pocket money) will be around 10 bucks.

Once you've done that you need to register the card for direct deposit. nFinanSe needs your SSN which you enter online. It's instant activation, so no delay or speaking to a human. This is where the anonymous point kicks in again. If you want to break the law (I am in no way recommending you do), then finding SSN info online can be done for a couple of bucks. If not and you still want to stay anonymous, then you could ask the permission of a friend or family member. Remember, this information is never seen by PayPal, so it has no real tie to your account.

Either way, once you've registered your card you will be given a unique account number and routing code. Go back to PayPal, enter this info, and they will send you 2 security deposits. In my experience this usually takes 1 or 2 working days. Once you have those codes (they will show on your online nFinanSe statement), you enter them into PayPal and BOOM, fully verified account. Now if you want you can also enter a credit/debit card and do a similar sort of thing, but it's not necessary. If you do enter a credit/debit card make sure it's not one of the mass used ones. PayPal check BINs (bank identification numbers) a lot, and using a simon.com gift card is gonna through up a red flag on their system.

That's pretty much it. 1 anonymous/untraceable PayPal account (or close to it depending on how "blackhat" you wanna go). Also small point about ATM withdrawals, you can research online the different makes and models of ATM machines. Some have cameras, others do not. Again if you want to be truly 100% anonymous wear some glasses when you withdraw the money, or pay some kid to do it.

If PayPal ever do limit your account, and chances are they will, then you need ID and a utility bill ready for the profile info you signed up with. One word. Photoshop. Again, not gonna go into details but there are plenty of sources online to get this done, or you can do it yourself. The people who check this at PayPal probably don't know WTF they're doing. I bet they take a quick 3 second clance at your image attachments and pass it along.

Hope this thread helped. If not then that's cool. Yes a lot of it is very basic stuff, but I see some really stupid advice being given to people asking PayPal questions, so what I'm saying really isn't that bad.

Also I am in no way suggesting you use PayPal for illegal activities. I am just showing a way to use their services anonymously.

Peace.

Originally Posted by Masterminder

thankx 4 the short guide

Blimey! Wouldn't like to see what you consider a "long" forum guide.

You're welcome though

Originally Posted by Masterminder

didn't meant that in a bad way but thankx anyway

Nah it's cool, I didn't take it bad. It's just that post took me quite a while to type out

Damn I can't tell you how useful this is to me, because if I did I would be giving away my secrets. But man, I can't thank you enough if this works.

And no I'm not going to be commiting any fraud/ doing anything illegal, I have legal methods which just happen to need Paypal accounts

Originally Posted by Saberu

Damn I can't tell you how useful this is to me, because if I did I would be giving away my secrets. But man, I can't thank you enough if this works.

And no I'm not going to be commiting any fraud/ doing anything illegal, I have legal methods which just happen to need Paypal accounts

I accept donations in any currency via PayPal.

LOL just kidding

does it work with you?

Originally Posted by Goldstream

does it work with you?

Does what work with me? The method I posted? Well yes it works, it all depends how well you manage your account. Personally I have no need for anonymous PayPal accounts any more though

excellent "in your face", no fluff information...crystal clear in your presentation style...thanks
mike

So I'm not the only one who writes too much per post. Where have you been all my life? great guide you've got there! Much appreciated, I've got something for you.

That's a great well written tut, pp is a bear to get around. thx

this isn't really all that useful since it involves lying on for the ss number... the key is finding a truly anonymous debit card where you don't have to give this info, I've seen some offered online but they charge a lot of money upfront and seem kind of sketchy, am wondering if anyone knows of legit ones in other countries that can easily be signed up for by a us based person.

Will this work for using epass as well?

Thanks for the guide. I bet some member will leech it out to DP soon.

I wounder if your paypal account is pretty much untraceable and you get payed by your cpa companies by paypal. Will you actually need to pay taxes? You guys get what I mean? I am not planing on tax fraud or anything as its too dangerous of a game for me but it still would be intresting to know whether its possible like this.

Originally Posted by madblacker

this isn't really all that useful since it involves lying on for the ss number... the key is finding a truly anonymous debit card where you don't have to give this info, I've seen some offered online but they charge a lot of money upfront and seem kind of sketchy, am wondering if anyone knows of legit ones in other countries that can easily be signed up for by a us based person.

Most people don't even know you can use debit cards as bank accounts, so for them this information is pretty useful. And I only touched the surface in regards to this part. There are debit cards out there that don't require a SSN. There are sellers that will "handle" that for you as well. Also bear in mind that PayPal never sees what details you register on your card, so that profile is never really tied to your PayPal account.

As far as I know cards from other countries are useless for verifying US PayPal accounts. You need something with a US bank account.

Originally Posted by darkface

I wounder if your paypal account is pretty much untraceable and you get payed by your cpa companies by paypal. Will you actually need to pay taxes? You guys get what I mean? I am not planing on tax fraud or anything as its too dangerous of a game for me but it still would be intresting to know whether its possible like this.

All CPA companies require you to complete a W-8 form. So unless you've signed up to them with fake info, I don't see how this would help much. Plus tax fraud in the US is a BAD idea.

Bear in mind too that you're probably talking $xx,xxx or more per month to make it worth while. In that case your PayPal account will almost certainly get limited (even if all the funds are legit). So be prepared with your photoshopped ID and utility bill.

In theory, yes, this would work for tax evasion. In reality there are probably far better methods

What about a paypal debit card to directly access the money from your paypal account without transfering it at all? Here in Australia you have to provide ID when you buy a prepaid debit card but that rly is not too much of a problem. You see them thrown out quite a lot because ppl have used up their money on them so you could just grab it and add money onto it again if you rly are desperate (or just fake a student id which isn't too hard either)

Edit: Sry didn't see your respond to my question when I wrote this. All companies require a W8 tax form yes, but if you are not a US citizen that doesn't matter for taxation purposes as far as I understand the whole matter. My residency is in Germany (even though I live in australia) and its not a smart idea to do tax fraud there either I just woudnered.

thanks for the guide, but it had limited use for me, as most of your strategy is based around stuff that can only be acquired if you live in the USA. Do you have any work arounds in mind, if I am not US based.

Originally Posted by darkface

Edit: Sry didn't see your respond to my question when I wrote this. All companies require a W8 tax form yes, but if you are not a US citizen that doesn't matter for taxation purposes as far as I understand the whole matter. My residency is in Germany (even though I live in australia) and its not a smart idea to do tax fraud there either I just woudnered.

No on the PayPal debit card because PayPal will need to send that to an address. And then the whole anonymous thing goes out the window.

You still need to submit tax forms if you are an international client of the CPA companies, it's just a different one. But yes, it's more "your responsibility" if you are outside the US.

Originally Posted by lucius

thanks for the guide, but it had limited use for me, as most of your strategy is based around stuff that can only be acquired if you live in the USA. Do you have any work arounds in mind, if I am not US based.

Most of what I said can be done from any where in the World. The only part is the card bit, and there are quite a few sellers online offering this service. You just gotta dig them out.

Originally Posted by Adlad

Most people don't even know you can use debit cards as bank accounts, so for them this information is pretty useful. And I only touched the surface in regards to this part. There are debit cards out there that don't require a SSN. There are sellers that will "handle" that for you as well. Also bear in mind that PayPal never sees what details you register on your card, so that profile is never really tied to your PayPal account.

As far as I know cards from other countries are useless for verifying US PayPal accounts. You need something with a US bank account.

Its a matter of what you are using it for / why you need to be anonymous.... if its something where you are in deep and the feds came after you, for example, they would be able to trace it to the bank account (even though the acct info isn't viewable by paypal).

But yeah I know about some debit cards that don't require a SSN but they are expensive, like $70 it seems like just to get started.. anyways, just my thoughts as I've been thinking a lot about this lately.

I did not read all of that but if you are trying to open an anonymous account, there are services that will setup bank accounts, credit cards in any name you want, in countries that dont allow the US to access the data. Thats the only way really. Paypal is really anal be careful

Originally Posted by whitegreyhat

I did not read all of that but if you are trying to open an anonymous account, there are services that will setup bank accounts, credit cards in any name you want, in countries that dont allow the US to access the data. Thats the only way really. Paypal is really anal be careful

yeah but you have to be careful to know what you're getting into since there are a lot of scams involving this sort of thing, you have to find an "easy out" to get the money quickly through a foreign acct to something usable in the U.S....

I think one of the best things for this is to buy the visa vanilla gift cards / or something like that, as you can order them online, so, for example, if you had a foreign bank acct with a fake name that had a debit card that could be used online, you could then use that to buy the visa gift cards online and have them sent to a forwarding address in the U.S. This can be a way of getting the money cleanly since I wouldn't trust hooking up a foreign acct to a bank account here or anything else along those lines since the point is to make it untraceable to begin with.

Okay for those saying this method is impossible without giving SSN details or if you're not in America, go to sigomoney.com. That card requires no SSN details (you can apply as an international person), and I'm sure you could get it shipped to a forwarding address in the US

Great idea! Just one thing - don't you think the guy whose details you use to open the paypal account might get into trouble since he does not report the paypal income to the IRS?

only half-read this, but the details need to be worked on a bit. When it comes to credit card scams like this (extremely illegal by the way) the trick is to:

Completely not use any information of yours anywhere while doing anything. Don't use your phone to call the card company, don't get the cards sent to your mailbox (in-store would be ideal), don't give them ANY of your info.
Don't show your face on the ATM cameras.
Don't keep using the same ATM.

To get around the IP issue, just drive around in a car with a laptop with WIFI (that has never been linked to you on any other ISP) and steal someone else's internet.

To get the name, social, DOB, and other info, post up fake online job applications on craigslist or other places. Make them for like McDonalds and such. Something popular thats everywhere in the US. Oh, don't set these up under your own IP and get them sent to a mail inbox you set up or check using your IP.

To make them look a little more believable, make sure the paypal and the cardholder name match.

All that said, it'd be pretty simple to go on Ebay, make a posting linking to a product you don't have, the people pay your Paypal, your Paypal pays your card, and you stick the card in the ATM and get your cash. I just always thought that the cards that were sold in stores that accept "direct deposit" mean from an employer, not paypal. Can anyone else elaborate?

EDIT: A few years back I almost tried doing this by receiving the cards though abandoned or rarely used mailboxes I found around, because they seemed to be easier to load. Then I just got lazy and got a job.

Originally Posted by moronic_kaos

To get the name, social, DOB, and other info, post up fake online job applications on craigslist or other places. Make them for like McDonalds and such. Something popular thats everywhere in the US. Oh, don't set these up under your own IP and get them sent to a mail inbox you set up or check using your IP.

EDIT: A few years back I almost tried doing this by receiving the cards though abandoned or rarely used mailboxes I found around, because they seemed to be easier to load. Then I just got lazy and got a job.

Yeah you can do that, I mean if you are willing to steal ID's thats not that hard its just that it becomes a serious crime in the eyes of the feds so you just can't afford to get caught, whereas finding other ways to weasel out of the SS #, such as offshore paypal accts, using a debit card that doesn't require SS # is much safer and probably wouldn't be considered illegal at all.

About the mailbox thing, I've been thinking of doing that, just don't know where to look for a rarely used mailbox, I figure if its abandoned or too unused it probably has a mail hold on it, so I have to check to make sure its actually receiving mail.... with the foreclosures and shit there are a lot of empty houses around though, but haven't checked to see if they are getting mail.

Originally Posted by Adlad

Okay for those saying this method is impossible without giving SSN details or if you're not in America, go to sigomoney.com. That card requires no SSN details (you can apply as an international person), and I'm sure you could get it shipped to a forwarding address in the US

Thanks, this is very useful, does anyone have other similar services that don't require SS#, I want to make a list for reference as I will be setting up a few of these

this is also very useful for selling on eBay and still making a profit with there high ass fees. It allows you to tell eBay to go fu%k there self when it's time to pay your seller fees. Just make a new account.

Originally Posted by Adlad

I accept donations in any currency via PayPal.

LOL just kidding

sent to your anonymous paypal account?

Originally Posted by madblacker

this isn't really all that useful since it involves lying on for the ss number... the key is finding a truly anonymous debit card where you don't have to give this info, I've seen some offered online but they charge a lot of money upfront and seem kind of sketchy, am wondering if anyone knows of legit ones in other countries that can easily be signed up for by a us based person.

Actually this is a great tutorial! Plus the title was How to set up an anonymous/untraceable Paypal account not how to set up a legitimate Paypal account. If you used your actual social security number then it would be a legitimate Paypal account, therefore not anonymous and of no use for blackhat purposes. Also, Paypal is not a licensed bank or financial institution, therefore they can not cross reference social security number information legally without customers consent anyhow.

hey i am outside US, who can help me in buying a nFinanSe card ??

pls PM

I think there is an easier way.
1. create paypal with crappy online virtual credit card
2.transfer funds from there to a Legit bank account based in Switzerland
3.transfer Swis funds to a different paypal, and then withdraw

seems a lot safer and easier.

I think that some1 leeched it out to other forums too, thanks anywat

Originally Posted by xoxxx

I think there is an easier way.
1. create paypal with crappy online virtual credit card
2.transfer funds from there to a Legit bank account based in Switzerland
3.transfer Swis funds to a different paypal, and then withdraw

seems a lot safer and easier.

you think is that easy to make fake or cheap swiss bank account?

how am I going to load money into sigomoney card if I'm not in the US?

Originally Posted by simplebeans

Lovely thanks for that dude! Which pre-paid card would this work with in the UK? Also am i missing something here as do you still have to not get the pre-paid card mailed to your address?

In short, there are none.

I think you can add a US bank account to a UK PayPal though...

Originally Posted by clubbhopp

you think is that easy to make fake or cheap swiss bank account?

Haha read my quote again, I said "legit" swiss bank account, And they are not that hard to get a hold of.

Originally Posted by Adlad

Okay for those saying this method is impossible without giving SSN details or if you're not in America, go to sigomoney.com. That card requires no SSN details (you can apply as an international person), and I'm sure you could get it shipped to a forwarding address in the US

Very useful tip. Many people around the world could benefit from this. And always legally.

Thanks man

Hello people,

Very nice tutorial but I dont think I can use it since I am not from America. I am from Serbia(this country is not on paypal list) but there are some peple that order some stuff from ebay using somekind of paypal account. Can any of you give me an idea how can I make a paypal account using some other country like Hungary, Slovenia, Greece or some other country close to my. I have a debit card with my name and address, and I was thinking on signing on paypal as Hungary citizen but then they will check my credit card and see its from serbia, right?

If anyone have any idea, thanks

Interesting,

Do you need a SSN to 'verify' a US paypal Account?

Are there any prepaid debit cards available for canada?

Haha he's right, photoshop or even MSPaint believe it or not. I had to do this with a fake paypal before and it works perfectly. The only mistake I made was I fucked up and tried to transfer money to the linked bank account...a spare one in my real name. paypal noticed immediately and locked the account asking for ridiculous amounts of information. so just remember to transfer funds from the fake to real account, THEN to your bank account

Does anyone have any idea for me?

Fuckin A mate!