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Old 05-10-2008, 11:43 PM
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Domain Marketing – Profiting

You can make serious (?) money from domain selling. You can make money from buying and then selling domains too (flipping) but lets just focus on buying fresh domains and selling them for profits. This is a great way to earn money so you could invest into other ventures and businesses. To be an advance seller in the domain market you should be able to analyze the domain you are eyeing and estimate its value. Here is a basic rundown of what I’d do to maximize the profit(s) from a cheap investment.

I recommend registering domains at namecheap. It’s cheap and you get free whois guard (I’ve seen a member asking about this so I’d just pop it in here). You can register anywhere you like. Big company domains sell! How much do you think you could’ve made if you had registered and sold paypal.org? I bet you a fortune! This approach is almost guaranteed a healthy ROI. Go company-hunting to find a good company domain to register with a different extension (you can’t register with the original extension because it’s not available, don’t waste time). Marketers give crap about the extension (if they’re smart), I bet you didn’t know that if you had registered a domain with just ‘paypal’ it in no matter the extension, you installed a forum and an auto-poster, and set-out for some back-links you might-have been the number one result for ‘paypal’? It works that way and smart marketers know that (paypal is a static site comprised of stiff pages, forums update with content). So you can hunt and utilize findings for this mean also.

For example, there is an avail domain for ‘squidoo’, the big orange company. At namecheap an avail is listed, “squidoo.nu”. That could actually profit you, handsomely. All you have to do is search for companies and match their domains for availability with the extensions offered, or more. There is at-least one smart marketer on the prowl at sedo a-day, so that’s a guaranteed deal. If you don’t know where to start your marketing business/ventures, then this is a great start. It doesn’t require the generic essentials of an online business i.e. content. There are a lot of “niches” this can be tasted with. If you don’t make any money from domains selling why not compete with the original company? You have that potential just by being on the same level of domain-ship with that company. Of course you should analyze every aspect of the niche/site/business. You can’t compete with a huge company like Squidoo; they have hundreds, thousands (?) of original user content. You can compete with Paypal (funny?) if you stand on a same-level domain-ship with them, even if its paypal.bullshit then there’s potent in there.

You can run forums and sites from the same level domain-ship as that company you’re revolving around (monetizing?) example, you can do this with the copeac domain, just state you are in “no way” affiliated with that company and don’t use any trademarks. I’m not a legal expert so seek legal documents about that, I know it’s legal. Of-course you can monetize copeac with the referral system. Wouldn’t if feel mighty just sitting on the domain-level as copeac? I dare you to try it with a forum, copeac is a stiff website and only goes so far in the content, a forum could easily over-took it in rankings (or at-least I think?). I am good at search engine optimization and think I’m least onto something here.

Sell your domain(s) on Sedo and make the money, just go to Sedo.com and see the crappy (s) domains being sold for those unbelievable prices, you could do better. You don’t even have to charge much just get a decent ROI. The basic idea is big-company and monetizing equals huge potential. -=enjoy
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Old 05-11-2008, 12:16 AM
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Good idea. What do you suggest if someone purchases a same name domain with a random . whatever? How can you really compete with anyone. People will lets say intend to go to paypal.com go to your site, see its not what they want and leave.... I don't get it really. Are you saying maybe the company themselves will want to buy it from you for a insane amount of money? Is that possible? Thanks.
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Old 05-11-2008, 12:37 AM
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It’s not your goal to make paypal.com paypal. w/e, it is your goal to present the opportunity therein. You should/can’t never start a company this way similar to the main business. It is your goal to A. – sell the domain, B. Monetize it like with a forum where people can come and discuss about that business/service. Paypal . w/e sits on the same SEO potential at that point of magnitude as paypal.com, it would be wrong for search engines to discriminate by domain extensions so I think I’m correct.
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For an example, lets say domain.com is a website that is about Video Games. And you buy domain.org... and make a forum thats about video games. You are saying that it will rank higher possibly for the keyword DOMAIN? And then get you all the traffic meant to go to domain.com? Is that one way of looking at it?
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Old 05-11-2008, 01:00 AM
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Sort of, but first measure the aspects. If domain.com is a flat site (one set of content, no major updates) with a huge amount of respectable back-links and you register domain.org with a flat-site too, no major updates, probably promoting a game download affiliate site, less back-links or none because your domain.org copycat isn’t popular than original domain.com so you have to actually work for those back-links, if your content slightly surpasses the length and quality of domain.com it still would not beat domaim.com because of the huge back-links domain.com has. It also depends on keyword optimization (what term do you want traffic from?) if the term is simply domain as in of domain.com and your site domain.org and you optimize it better it still would not do better because of the back-link aspect but probably (I emphasize) would be on the first search result page simply because of the one main keyword in the domain name.

If you have a domain.org mimicking domain.com with the same rules applying for domain.com as above, but you have a forum with some auto-posted content and some quality responses, and you actually work a-bit on getting high quality back-links, it has the possibility (I emphasize) because of the content aspect alone. If you match domain.com optimization exactly as your mimicking site, with no quality back-links compared to domain.com, then you won’t outrank domain.com. Keep in mind we are talking about keyword domain as in domain.com and domain.org.

It seems you would be interested in this by keeping it and monetizing this rather than selling it, if so you shouldn’t just expect to forward the traffic to domain.com for any reason, you should follow general monetization dos and don’t, mines is build a user-base before you try to profit from your site(s). Auto-generated content alone can give you a good PR, [see the results from experiments on this forum] and when you seek back-links from high pr sites and blogs (?) that increases PR, when you post quality responses to those auto-posted content that lands you on the quality content field (supposedly). Domaininfo.com against domain.com will never beat domain.org against domain.com. Hope that helps clarifying some stuff, or did it?
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Old 05-11-2008, 01:21 AM
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Yeah that makes sense, kinda what I was saying... Thanks for the detailed information. Which auto-generated content for forums works. I have used a couple that pull from yahoo answers, like ico-content for one, seemed to work for a week then stopped. Can you point me in the right direction on these auto-generated forum content things. I am basically in the process of doing what you just wrote about samloron. I will let everyone know how I make out. Thanks again.
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I have some domains on Sedo, But they are not selling..... How do we improve the selling in Sedo...... Any Methods to cash in for a quick profit?
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no way you wrote that ive seen your sentence structure and spelling
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huh? Who are you talking to me?
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I have some domains on Sedo, But they are not selling..... How do we improve the selling in Sedo...... Any Methods to cash in for a quick profit?
Still looking for an answer......
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Are you sure there isn't going to be any legal problems like trademark issues if you register commoncompanyname dot org or something? I've been hanging around in namepros and often people ask appraisals for a domain which include some well known company name and people there keep saying there's going to be a trademark problem and the company can take the domain from you whenever they want.... Like if I register cocacola dot org (not available btw), coke can come and take it leagally from me an instant if they want.... Is it so?

I've also tried to sell several domains in SEDO, but never got any sales there. It's not easy. I've figured If you don't have a good domain name like very short and pronounceable .com or some common dictionary word or really really good understandable two word domain dot com, resellers simply not interested of it and what comes to end user buyers I think it's more like a matter of luck to find one if you're not very experienced domainer and know your stuff. Is it so?
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