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    Default REALLY BLACKHAT - CJ Hosting Affiliates Gaming - 200% profit - HUGE

    I wrote up this whole business plan on how to game CJ Hosting Affiliates. You basically write up your own leads and stuff because everyone knows that CJ hosting affiliates give you like $100 bucks a signup and if you make 11 in a month, then you get $125 a signup and all that has to be done is someone must pay like $50 bucks (AT MOST) to get your commission. Now I really went indepth with this, and I planned on doing it, but I don't have to startup cash.

    Here we go.

    1) Signup with CJ.com, if you haven't already.
    2) Take a few looks around their hosting affiliates section. I've already HANDPICKED 2 affiliates for you: JustHost and FatCow.

    JustHost offers $100 for a 6 month, 12 month or 24 month purchase of their lower hosting. Now they offer 2 coupon codes. A 20% off and a 50% off. The 20% off can be found at the bottom of the page, in a hyperlink called (Secret Link) -
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    http://www.justhost.com/secret-link
    To get the 50% off you must get to the point of entering your contact info and then go to the address bar and type like yahoo.com and an inpage popup with a fake person will come up saying like get 50% off now, limited time offer (it isnt).

    FatCow offers $100 for their only plan the 1 year plan. You can get a 20% off or something like that if you get to the contact info and try to leave.

    Now, here are the prices you should be working with:

    JustHost - 24 months - 50% off - $70.80 total
    JustHost - 12 months - 20% off - $59.40 total
    JustHost - 6 months - 20% off - $45.65 ($35.70 + $9.95 domain) total
    FatCow - 1 year - 20% off - $46 total

    Also, setup a small blogger blog, this will be the "front" of the operations. Write a few articles on websites and put your affiliate links on it.

    Now you need to set up two things, Tor network and another thing where you put in a proxy ip and that is what you become. Tor is for watering down conversions and the manual proxy ip input is for signing up. I'll explain later why it must be manual.

    Okay, now you are ready to invest some money in credit cards. Oh, my bad, Visa/Mastercard Gift Cards. You can find these things in any Albertsons, Publix, or grocery store or CVS, office max/depot, etc or even online. This gift cards are perfect because they can act as REAL CC or Debit cards.

    We split here. This section will be split because you can either go to the store and buy $50/$100 gift cards or go online and buy prepaid, custom amount. DO NOT REGISTER THE GIFT CARDS WITH ANY INFO UNTIL I TELL YOU WHEN!

    PART 1 - instore/only $50/$100 cards
    Now, you cannot buy a CC and use it more than once for the same company, so every time you purchase a $50 or $100 card you can use it for just one company or once for each. The possibilities are:

    $100 - FatCow 1 year + JustHost 6 months = $91.65 cost = $200 made = $108.35 PROFIT
    $100 - JustHost 12 months = $59.40 cost = $100 made = $40.60 profit
    $100 - JustHost 24 months = $70.80 cost = $100 made = $29.20 profit

    Now you see why custom prepaid amounts (PART 2) is more flexible, but you can still get what is left on those cards back. On that blogger blog you made earlier, make a PayPal donation button. now use the credit card payment option of paypal and you'll get your $$$ back to spend on more cards (minus a $1.50 paypal fee, I think).

    okay part 1 is done

    PART 2 - Custom Prepaid cards

    The people who choose this option will lose less to no money to paypal and will profit quicker.

    Here's a website:
    Code:
    http://www.icardgiftcard.com/
    that sells custom visa/mastercard gift cards.
    In their FAQ (
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    http://www.icardgiftcard.com/index.cfm?action=faqs
    ) they tell you the fees associated, etc. Now basically just combine 2 prices (one from fatcow and 1 from justhost). for FATCOW + JH 24 month = $116.8 (buy $117 cards), FATCOW + JH 12 month = $105.40 (buy $106 cards), and FATCOW + JH 6 month = $91.65 (buy $92 cards). This way you don't lose $1.50 to paypal but like 20 cents.

    moving on

    Now use tor and start clicking your affiliate links to generate hits that don't convert. Everytime before and after you sign up, be sure to send 25 - 75 hits to keep conversion rates at about 1% - 2%. Spread these out over the day to diminish the chance of finding a pattern.

    Now that you have your cards and fake hits. you are ready to begin to make your money. Go on google (or check on BHW) for elite US proxies. Find a list. The more you have, the more fish in the sea. Now go to WhatIsMyIpAddress.com to check 2 things. 1) that you proxy is working and 2) your general location. Now lets say WhatIsMyIPAddress.com says the ip is out of Washington, DC. So go to WhitePages.com use city/state Washinton, DC and type in a random last name (Wallace, Johnson, Stevenson, Cohen, Jackson, just some ideas). Now choose person #2/#3. It shows address, phone number, etc BUT GO DOWN TO THE NEXT PART FIRST AND CREATE A EMAIL AND USE THAT! USE YOUR OWN EMAIL!. Now go to the visa/mastercard gift/debit card thing you plan to use, go to their website. Register the card for online purchases using that persons information. If you can change the phone number so its something you own (u'd need hundreds though), then this is best because JustHost will sometimes call to verify (if you use the person #, you just gotta get lucky), fatcow doesn't care, so if you are paranoid just game FatCow...
    3) Now being connected to the ip and gift card at the ready, go to a free email provider and make a new one. (gmail, yahoo, mail.com, aol, aim, etc, random one each time). Make it like firstinitial+lastname+last 2 digits of number @ email provider .com so for Joe Shmo at 111-999-5732 do JShmo32@gmail.com, etc.
    4) Okay, email is at ready, CC is at ready, and so is the ip address. Almost done. Go to FatCow.com and/or JustHost.com and do your dirty deeds.

    And from now on, loginto that hosting account with Tor NOT YOUR REGULAR IP address so when they check your affiliate account, they won't get flagged. You can autoblog these accounts, etc. For more ideas, use this thread that I used to help me incase I did do this plan:
    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackha...t-do-them.html

    Some guy pm'd me with an awesome idea. Throw up only article directories and when you get a lot (like 500+ domains and you can put more than one on a hosting account), sell article submission... easy $$$!

    So use my idea and above all BE CAUTIOUS!

    This looks like jr VIP material to me.... hmmm... haha - don't flame me for the comment...

    So enjoy and happy money making to all!

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    Default Re: REALLY BLACKHAT - CJ Hosting Affiliates Gaming - 200% profit - HUGE

    I have tried that i havent even used a proxy and i used my real name with webhostingpad (not in CJ anymore) and hostgator and i got my check
    i thing this is a great method
    This forum taught me all I know - use search and let it teach you too !

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    Yea but if you want to do it like 10 times a week, you need more than one ip and name...

    Actually to do it twice you need new credentials!

    But thanks for the support!


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    awesome post...
    i'll try that right now

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    good luck!

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    I wonder how much did you got paid doing that? Will be nice to spend $400 and then get banned? ^^

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    Default Re: REALLY BLACKHAT - CJ Hosting Affiliates Gaming - 200% profit - HUGE

    You'd only get banned if you weren't careful.

    Clear cookies, change ip, possible change browser.... FatCow is pretty lax though... IDK about JustHost

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    Default Re: REALLY BLACKHAT - CJ Hosting Affiliates Gaming - 200% profit - HUGE

    Well, looks kile he's doing good if you look at his second topic, he seems to have a lot of them..Might give a try but you need to be really careful with all the proxies and don't forget to send junk traffic if you don't want to get caught.
    Will be intersted to know how many times you do that each week ?


    Edit : Also, don't they get suspicious with all those hosting service bought under your affiliate link and none of them actually used ?
    Last edited by Valkurm; 07-18-2009 at 01:05 PM.

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    I actually haven't started yet... It was just fabrication in my mind... but I am going to start now. You can do once a day won't take too long and you're banking $50 x 365 = 18.25k a year Woot! too bad CJ does tax id and shit.

    I'm going to do once every 3 days to start and as I begin to get more shit traffic then I'll move forward.

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    Heres a blog a put together in 2 seconds:

    learnaboutwebhosting.blogspot.com

    the only problem is is that blogger doesn't allow php redirects so I can't automate shit traffic with blogger, I'm looking to a free web host w/ cpanel + Fantastico installer.

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    this is gud idea but many time justhost reverse your hosting credit (3 time my credit reverse by justhost).

    Mostly all the high profit hosting affiliate reverse 1-2 your hosting credit. If you buy 10 hosting yourself with justhost then 99% chance they reverse 1-2 credit. But still you got profit.

    I personally advice use this method with any company but not justhost they are cheating cj and people.

    But still this method is very gud if you careful about your ips and read about company before buying.

    thx for sharing.

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    Okay f*** JustHost.... also good is SuperGreenHosting (on cj) and ihnmotion or something and of course everyone's fav - HOSTGATOR!

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    You need to add some legit leads aswell, having 100% debit cards is a sure way to not get paid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rnc505 View Post
    Okay f*** JustHost.... also good is SuperGreenHosting (on cj) and ihnmotion or something and of course everyone's fav - HOSTGATOR!
    Yes we can go with hostgator. Let me try with 4 hosting account.

    We are blackhatters and we need testing.

    testing testing and then ok

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    Good luck... be sure to send shit traffic!

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    yeah it's important that you click on the link that you posted on your blogger blog, because if you only put the link in the address bar you could get flagged. happened to me with some other affiliate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loamigad View Post
    You need to add some legit leads aswell, having 100% debit cards is a sure way to not get paid.

    Not true.... how will they know they are disposible debit cards, let alone debit cards at all? They see Visa or Mastercard, End of Story.

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    don't they ask for a scanned copy of ur ID and credit card or u fake that too

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    Quote Originally Posted by rnc505 View Post
    I actually haven't started yet... It was just fabrication in my mind...
    So it's an untested method.

    You have a great idea here, but I'd caution anyone against jumping into something like this head first without knowing for sure that the advertiser will pay.

    There's potential for big profits and big losses with this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamainia View Post
    yeah it's important that you click on the link that you posted on your blogger blog, because if you only put the link in the address bar you could get flagged. happened to me with some other affiliate.
    Best thing to do is make a php GET variable redirect with a standalone wordpress blog and send autosurf and pay to view traffic. Google search "paid to click" and find a few. Look for their advertising page and you could get like 10 second, 1000 views for $4.... only bad thing is is that they are uncontrolled, but some let you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fred030 View Post
    don't they ask for a scanned copy of ur ID and credit card or u fake that too


    No... Regular web transaction. You don't need a physical card or be the actual person, you just need the number, the cvc code and the info tied to the card... thats it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rnc505 View Post
    No... Regular web transaction. You don't need a physical card or be the actual person, you just need the number, the cvc code and the info tied to the card... thats it.
    Most of the hosting i bought lately asks for a scanned copy of the Id or a DRIVER LICENSE like hostgator etc ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by fred030 View Post
    Most of the hosting i bought lately asks for a scanned copy of the Id or a DRIVER LICENSE like hostgator etc ....
    If at hostgator your entered info matches your credit card info, they won't flag it, but if there is one difference that is what happens. I just talked to live chat support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rnc505 View Post
    If at hostgator your entered info matches your credit card info, they won't flag it, but if there is one difference that is what happens. I just talked to live chat support.
    everything match even the ip is from the same country and it's my real cc also with paypal same thing not just hostgtor i tried proxies with VCC same info same issue deleted cookies flash cookies etc ...
    i asked hostgator why they said we do this to all the new account weird

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    Maybe they ask that just for non-US people ?

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    nope i am from india and i just purchased my hosting from hostgator with vcc. My account activated within 1 minute.

    No id proof they need from me.

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    After finding this thread your other thread seems to make more sense hehehe..

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    oh i thought this method was tested...
    but it still sounds interesting

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    This is a cheeky little idea; and no doubt some people are off testing this now. Little bit too dodgy for me though. Interested to know if someone gets paid regularly with this...

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    When I get paid I'll do this but your gonna have to wait 30 - 45 days for payment proof.

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    It does seem kinda risky.. well I hope you keep us updated and maybe point out some of the pitfalls..

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    This not really black hat, its fraud lol

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    This is an interesting thread, not original in anyway but I like how the OP took it to the next level and explained the smallest details.
    NOW, In order to profit more from this you can now go and sell these hosting accounts on DP at half price.
    Just start a BST thread, say you are getting out of the IM business and you have a prepaid hosting with xyz company...

    But wait, I will bet $100 that this method is going to come up on DP as an ebook within the next 2-3 weeks LOL

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    Question ppl.: Can this method be used to Adult affiliates too?

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    PROTIP: Don't ever do anything like this via tor unless you KNOW what you are doing. It's widely known that the usgovt has various nods set up to harvest traffic. It's also known that many nodes are run by malicious folks that harvest usernames, cc#s, and etc.

    Also, just fyi 1and1 may suck balls but they actually encourage you to use your own affil link for yourself.
    Code:
    http://www.1and1affiliate.com/tips/faq/#irfaq_1_24

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    Eh, this won't work long-term, period. Credit cards have a thing called a BIN. You'd have to have a ton of completely different gift cards from different banks, because you'll notice all of a certain type of gift card have the same first 6 numbers. All Vanilla cards start the same, all Green Dot cards, etc. Those are BINs. Repetitive BINs will get you at least banned from the network and not paid, and at worst in some deep shit. You think you're the first one to think this up? lol

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    Interesting concept. I think there's definitely better ways to make money, though! But thanks for the post. Maybe someone will else will put it to use. Keep us posted if you do!

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    another "fill out your own offers" thread. this 'method' has been around since the wheel.

    in fact, if you use the search button i'm sure you could have found a few threads exactly like yours.

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    Dude. This won't work long term unless AT LEAST SOME of the traffic converts and actually uses the hosting. I know because I have done this sort of thing (not exact, but sort) before.
    You can make sure that some of your traffic converts and that you are able to do this over and over by using PPC marketing like adwords. It is an EXPENSIVE racket, but SURELY not as expensive as investing a few hundred or more into this and having all earnings reversed.

    Just trust me. I know. I have done this type of thing....

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    yeap...filling out your own offers is not original, but credit to the OP for giving into much details on a old idea.

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    congrats RNC this is awesome!! I seen something like before ..but yours is well knitted I really suggest to try that with a partner from another country to do the he'll clicking and buy the hosting accounts under tor and proxies thus you reduce tracing chances to ZERO

    anyway I'm gonna try this even if I don't have money right now to buy those gift cards maybe letting a interval time with clicks make sales look logic and make sense

    good luck for all
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    And you call this a BUSINESS PLAN?

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    Hello guys,
    i tired this method with pu**cash .
    They pay you 100$ for everyone who's sing up under your affiliate link,100-25$=75$ profit
    I buy usa scocks and format my pc each time i sing up under my ref link
    First time i got payed 200$.
    Next time i made 500$ and get banned for life :P
    i get mt vcc's from entropay.
    Sorry for my poor English

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    fraud, fraud and more fraud. How many times do you lot need to be told. Working your own leads will NOT work! PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    P.S It will end in tears!
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    I would also say be cautious of the Tor netweork. I was looking for a solution to hide my ipa nd change it readily and was going to use Tor but there seems to be lots of stories flying around about these malicious nodes.

    I use hide-my-ip now, it costs like $10 per month but it is pretty good software.

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