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Old 06-12-2008, 08:13 PM
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Default G**gle as SMTP server..

does anyone have a suggestion for a good free smtp server for mass mailing..? Or any successful methods for utilizing G*m*a*i*l's SMTP servers..?
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I have used my local ISP's smtp server for the past year, to send out newsletters for business but is very slow..

I have 1000's of G*m*a*i*l accounts considering the ability of POP access and the mention of the POP & SMTP settings for local client configurations.. i set one of my unused G*m*a*i*l accounts up within my Gr*oupMail - Mailer..

i shot off 100 emails like lighting, no pauses, no hitches, all successful..

later when i tried more than 100, the emails would not send successfully after 100, then after a few mins, another 100 would shoot our successfully.. etc.. etc.. until it seemed to cap out at an even 400 successful sends out of a total of 2890..

So.. I created 30 fresh G*m*a*i*l accounts, and was planning to test rotating accounts along with IP's (1 IP per account use)...

but with the same settings i cant seem to get more than a few out on each account period...
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Old 06-12-2008, 08:22 PM
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Default Re: G**gle as SMTP server..

You can't really use G as an smtp server. It only lets you send out about 100 emails a day or something like that and it won't let you use any type of software either.

I've used Ya*h00 before but you'll have to pay for the business account, which is pretty cheap. On the other hand, if you're spamming most of the other services will cancel your account with just a few complaints.
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Default Re: G**gle as SMTP server..

gmail limits 250 emails for smtp and 500 for webmail a day.

just change ip or use a proxy for connection with smtp and rotating acount and ip/proxy every 245 mails.
thats should work
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gmail limits 250 emails for smtp and 500 for webmail a day.

just change ip or use a proxy for connection with smtp and rotating acount and ip/proxy every 245 mails.
thats should work
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gmail limits 250 emails for smtp and 500 for webmail a day.

just change ip or use a proxy for connection with smtp and rotating acount and ip/proxy every 245 mails.
thats should work
I coded a program that automates this process but I can't find a program that helps me register a bunch of gmail accounts really fast.
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Default Re: G**gle as SMTP server..

You could try cox.

smtp.west.cox.net port 25
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Has anyone tried Cox? Does it work and is there a limit?

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Default Re: G**gle as SMTP server..

That's the thing.. i would attempt to send out only 100, made 5 separate attempts each different ip (broadband card) and different G*m*a*i*l account.. and couldnt get more than a few 4-10 successful..
all G*m*a*i*l accounts were unique also.. different names, usernames, and passwords..

Any suggestions on timing..? and if a secure connection is needed for the smtp server.. (TLS) i assumed only using 1 connection of the possible 256 abled by G*roup M*ail 5..

the thing that gets me is that the 1st time i attempted this.. 100 went out without a hitch...
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about cox.. wouldnt you need to be using cox as an isp or have have login credentials to use them remotely..?
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Default Re: G**gle as SMTP server..

The best bulk emailer I know from the past is:

Desk Top Server, which does not need gmail or anything else.

It even sets itself up - no settings too adjust!

If you can find a cracked version please let me know!!!

Here you can download a demo version

http://3w.iemailworld.c0m/index.php

Replace 3w with www
and c0m with com
but I am sure you knew that anyway

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Default Re: G**gle as SMTP server..

oo yeah g**gle s m t p rocks u can send only 500 emails /day/ account but.. whatever
i did some script for *unix systems to use g as smt
is really simple 1. get an accoutn generator to build email accounts... then code the script

some counters in it to go use next acount after 500 emaisl sent from 1

and what really rocks? inbox delivery u must love that
PM for more details..
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Default Re: G**gle as SMTP server..

yeah, im getting into this myself, i have a 2MIL gmail database so i think to send it once, ill need 44K accounts hehe

based on 45 emails per account so i dont lose too many and hit rate limits, my first try i messed up big time and now all require me to login and enter captcha before i can use SMTP again LOL
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Old 07-15-2008, 05:54 AM
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Default Re: G**gle as SMTP server..

as a tip u put first email then the rest 499 u put it as bcc and fire all at once then u move to next gmail account and send again ...
NOW Still working on my project... hope in 2 weeks will be rdy :P wroking now at the proxy option...

What my script do? allow send inbox 100% mails by using gmail accounts after i finish my work on script i will try to add a gui interface that will allow me to send from an website and if everything will work like i want i will make it public with a /month membership :P will be big discount for blackhatworld members i will update progress soon about my project:P
The web interface will ask for users to input the mailing list, a proxy list then the gmail accounts used to send email and email body...
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Default Re: G**gle as SMTP server..

gmail wouldnt flag those accounts fast as spam when doing so many BCC?

My test did 100% Inbox as well just need to get by rate limits, besides rat elimits th eonly other problem is URL filtering but i have a way around that i believe
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Default Re: G**gle as SMTP server..

hehe who cares if gmail will mark them as spam? when i use gmail accoutns i only use them 1 time to send and make others there are programs on this forum to make gmail accounts:P
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