eBay is getting closer and closer to being called eGay.

A few days ago they made the new Top Rated Seller status guide lines SUPER strict.

If you have more than 2 cases open in the resolution center at anytime it will count against you.

I had atleast 3 cases open on 4 of my ebay accounts because THE BUYER was at fault for NOT paying.

way to go ebay, Punish those that sell with you consistently, and reward the occasional seller.

Originally Posted by xoxxx

eBay is getting closer and closer to being called eGay.

Gay? Why ?

Originally Posted by xoxxx

If you have more than 2 cases open in the resolution center at anytime it will count against you.

Thats a Good Step Infact!

Originally Posted by xoxxx

I had atleast 3 cases open on 4 of my ebay accounts because THE BUYER was at fault for NOT paying.

Well, They Dont Know What Buissness means I suppose! May be, they want to cut down their income themselves!

Originally Posted by xoxxx

way to go ebay, Punish those that sell with you consistently, and reward the occasional seller.

I Am Happy with that, Coz I am Occasional!

~ExP~

I'm still top rated.

Originally Posted by xoxxx

If you have more than 2 cases open in the resolution center at anytime it will count against you.

This is so stupid. I have the same problem. I had 4 cases open by buyers because he/she bought the wrong size. These types of cases should not count against the seller. but this is eBay, no logic apply.

I am shifting from eBay to Amazon and other sites.

You only just now caught onto this bandwagon?

eBay could give two shits for its sellers. That was evident years ago with the feedback change policies and Paypal's/eBay's pro-buyer mentality.

Ditch eGay already.

Originally Posted by sdbeachbum15

You only just now caught onto this bandwagon?

eBay could give two shits for its sellers. That was evident years ago with the feedback change policies and Paypal's/eBay's pro-buyer mentality.

Ditch eGay already.

This.

It is to force people into Free Shipping, as most people are losing their TRS status from people who are leaving less than 5 stars. Free Shipping makes it so customers can not rate your shipping at all. This also allows eBay to make more money from sellers as people will roll the cost of shipping into the item price ($9.99 + $4.99 becomes $14.98) as eBay makes good money from Final Value Fee's through a percentage. The higher the number, the higher their percentage. This is why the Chinese sellers are seriously kicking ass on eBay, as they don't pay fee's.

Think of it this way, Western sellers on eBay are like little mom and pop stores, when Walmart (China is represented as Walmart) - what do you think happened to all of those mom and pop shops? You guessed it.

oh so typical of this company, its seems every day they are doing something to harm sellers

Originally Posted by eBayMafia

It is to force people into Free Shipping, as most people are losing their TRS status from people who are leaving less than 5 stars. Free Shipping makes it so customers can not rate your shipping at all. This also allows eBay to make more money from sellers as people will roll the cost of shipping into the item price ($9.99 + $4.99 becomes $14.98) as eBay makes good money from Final Value Fee's through a percentage. The higher the number, the higher their percentage. This is why the Chinese sellers are seriously kicking ass on eBay, as they don't pay fee's.

Think of it this way, Western sellers on eBay are like little mom and pop stores, when Walmart (China is represented as Walmart) - what do you think happened to all of those mom and pop shops? You guessed it.

What do you mean Chinese sellers don't pay fees?
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I think he means that soon eb@y will be almost all china sellers, with most small sellers squeezed out.

Small sellers should still have a place for used items and items too big to ship from china, but that's about it.

Variety is disappearing there, along with auctions. Mostly 'buy it now's.

Stinks as I have eb@y related sites, mainly for auctions.

I told them to hold my account as I could not pay till next week so I could use free listing weekend and what they do?

Limit my account

Originally Posted by consciousnesscreates

I told them to hold my account as I could not pay till next week so I could use free listing weekend and what they do?

Limit my account

Well...of course,...you know it's not an actual human using compassion and common sense. It's all automated and automatic. As soon as your account hits the 'threshold' the machines shut you down.

Originally Posted by Sdshane

What do you mean Chinese sellers don't pay fees?
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Do you think eBay Sellers in China pay the same fee's as everyone else? Even with their super low fee's, how many Chinese sellers do you see on eBay with more than a couple hundred feedback? They can just close an account and open a new one with all of the same details with no problems at all. These sellers will even say "My old account is _____, I closed it because my feedback was getting low."

Many sellers sell at .99 cent buy it now with free shipping. That leaves a whole .03 cents worth of profit. Products aren't free either.

I'm not Chinese, and I'm not hurting on eBay. People just need to find what works for them. I am doing free shipping, but always have been. I figure the costs into the price of the merchandise. It gives free advertisement, and sells a lot more/faster as a result.

Originally Posted by blackjack

This is so stupid. I have the same problem. I had 4 cases open by buyers because he/she bought the wrong size. These types of cases should not count against the seller. but this is eBay, no logic apply.

I am shifting from eBay to Amazon and other sites.

Careful with Amazon. They do similar stuffs. A lack of ratings or one A to Z guarantee claim and they'll suspend your account. AND hold the money that you earned. It sucks ass. They've done it to me, as well as several others. Nothing shady was going on on my end either. All genuine stuffs and fast shipping for EXACTLY what they wanted. Great service, but because something was wrong with how the customer FELT about the PRODUCT (not my service), you have to pay out the ass for it.

Originally Posted by flibbertigibbet

Careful with Amazon. They do similar stuffs. A lack of ratings or one A to Z guarantee claim and they'll suspend your account. AND hold the money that you earned. It sucks ass. They've done it to me, as well as several others. Nothing shady was going on on my end either. All genuine stuffs and fast shipping for EXACTLY what they wanted. Great service, but because something was wrong with how the customer FELT about the PRODUCT (not my service), you have to pay out the ass for it.

Welcome to eGay and Butthole-azon.

They both have gay sex with each other while their hands are in our pockets, taking money out of our wallet whenever they need to buy more lube.

shit i tried to sell my ex husbands p90x dvds and got banned from amazon. lol
even when i explained i had it in my posession and that it was opened and i would take pictures they said they wont remove my ban.

I hear all of the moans and groans, but I have to laugh as I have had my powersellers*****.com account since 2007 and now I have to sit an watch Meg Whitman in 2010 run for governor of California on my f96ing TV.

PS - Did anyone read the news back in 2004 that talked about a consumer driven internet? Do not find me altogether obstinate, as I am sure that is only part of the picture.

I really think that the sad fact of the matter is that Ebay users have been declared the "mark", whether it be the buyer or the seller by Ebay themselves.

As for the "marks" on the seller side, (now read this slowly)...

It might be us 1990s affiliate junkies fault.

I know that a few of us in here probably have an Egay ebook in MRR on their hard drive right now, and might have even driven the "run to Ebay to sell" stampede for a few bucks, whether you ever sold a damn thing other than 99 cent desktop wallpaper for the backlinks > on Ebay yourself or not.

We sent millions of stupid newbie fortune chasers $40-100 closer to bankruptcy with a PDF and a dream. Ebay just took a second glance into the previous 10 years stats and figured out half of their customers (sellers) could not afford to lose THEM if they were a success, and would make great fee revenue sources if the failed. If you want a share of their consumer base, you can chase it like Gina, a girl with cerebral palsy who made $5,327 a week in her first week on Ebay selling toenail sculptures, or deal with the fact that it is self-declared premium online seller space, and evaluate your options (including other than Ebay).

When it gets so bad that their consumer base suffers, which it will, then they are done, and I believe that is already starting to happen.

When millions of sellers can barely make do on the site, and "fudging" the TOS is no longer an option, as if you step over the line you are instantly zapped (usually with a fee, money you earned withheld, or both), then this shifts all "penny pinching" activities toward the secondary mark, "the consumer" by the sellers, who can no longer enjoy a liberal marketplace. This could easily start a mini crime spree on Ebay, consisting of real fraud, as there will be mostly untrusted (read smaller) accounts to choose from, and a growing number of BH accounts being used by normall WH creators just to keep in the threshhold of ranking policies without risking large shares of your own market intake from theft due to TOS automated enforcement.

Another impact will be the rise of competitive slamming, making any and all ranking all the more useless (except for fee generation, money withholding, account closings, or all three) [the ebay gets paid trifecta].

Ebay will then surely devize a way to protect them, of course. I almost forgot, their insurance protection program.

It's banking without the regulation, It is wholesale/retail auctioning without a license, and it has since endeavored to start foreclosure procedures on its nearest neighbors and partners. And its all because the want to build a railroad.

They are the new Robber Barons, or at least they hope! Has the memory or ENRON been erased? None of the loopholes have.


I know this might just seem like rambling, and it is to an extent. What is going on at Ebay, Facebook, YouTube, and other sites is much more wide in scope as to whom they are trying to ****, as some of these names are starting to take their role as a worldwide communication source pretty seriously, and sometimes too seriously.

There is political as well as a financial play behind some of their decisions, and with PayPal under their belt, still able to deride all banking regulation Internationally, it wouldn't surprise me to see Ebay start to slowly close in the ranks of allowed payment.

So yeah, I would say that it is about time to leave Ebay. But the US government has decided that along with the penny, all currency has been removed, and only Premier PayPal Credit Cards will be valid Worldwide currency. Ebay was considered for Exclusive Retail/Wholesale Licensing for all citizens, but DOD objected as they has too many uncollected invoices for Alibaba.com transactions, and wish to postpone until collection of such notes can be made. LOL.

I got banned from ebay for having 2 cases open AGAINST non-paying buyer, i have been living ebay-free but my wallet is hurting.

This riles me.

Thankfully the Australian eBay platform is significantly different to the US platform.

Open cases should never count against you, only when they are closed against you should they.

Then again, eBay have always toed the fine line between genius and stupidity.

Originally Posted by eBayMafia

It is to force people into Free Shipping, as most people are losing their TRS status from people who are leaving less than 5 stars. Free Shipping makes it so customers can not rate your shipping at all. This also allows eBay to make more money from sellers as people will roll the cost of shipping into the item price ($9.99 + $4.99 becomes $14.98) as eBay makes good money from Final Value Fee's through a percentage. The higher the number, the higher their percentage. This is why the Chinese sellers are seriously kicking ass on eBay, as they don't pay fee's.

Think of it this way, Western sellers on eBay are like little mom and pop stores, when Walmart (China is represented as Walmart) - what do you think happened to all of those mom and pop shops? You guessed it.

I like this insight into the strategy ebay is employing. It explains quite a bit.

I used to make ebay one of my first destinations to go find deals on stuff. However these days, I find myself more and more just turning to other vendors online who will sell for LESS than ebay. Ebays fees have driven the listing price of stuff to beyond retail levels. It's just not worth even looking there anymore.

Originally Posted by eBayMafia

It is to force people into Free Shipping, as most people are losing their TRS status from people who are leaving less than 5 stars. Free Shipping makes it so customers can not rate your shipping at all. This also allows eBay to make more money from sellers as people will roll the cost of shipping into the item price ($9.99 + $4.99 becomes $14.98) as eBay makes good money from Final Value Fee's through a percentage. The higher the number, the higher their percentage. This is why the Chinese sellers are seriously kicking ass on eBay, as they don't pay fee's.

Think of it this way, Western sellers on eBay are like little mom and pop stores, when Walmart (China is represented as Walmart) - what do you think happened to all of those mom and pop shops? You guessed it.

wait...why the hell is China not paying fees for shipping?

ebay is getting down. Amazon is way better...

the fees are so fucking high i cant believe it

Originally Posted by Gorush

ebay is getting down. Amazon is way better...

the fees are so fucking high i cant believe it

Is amazon really as good as claimed? If so I think our company may consider it as an option in the upcoming year. We havent looked into it too much, but with our new hiring, we might as well expand to new horizons.

I think the overall scheme is to start your own ecommerce site (as long as you feel you have the inventory to do it with).

Originally Posted by therealblackbox

Is amazon really as good as claimed? If so I think our company may consider it as an option in the upcoming year. We havent looked into it too much, but with our new hiring, we might as well expand to new horizons.

I think the overall scheme is to start your own ecommerce site (as long as you feel you have the inventory to do it with).

They (amazon) are the #1 etailer each year and growing. Unlike eBay who still hasn't been able to gain traction in attempting to change themselves into an etailer instead of an auction place.

If you have the infrastructure, it certainly makes sense to work with amazon to garner all that traffic they can send.

The eBay rating system is retarded. Who is going to give positive feedback if they get negative feedback, even if they are at fault? It will make the account seem scammy if you give positive while they give negative. It is a broken system.

Ebay will still sell a lot this season. They like the newbie sellers and buyers.

I don't see many of the top powersellers that I used to buy from there. Some are on Amazon and some have their own ecommerce sites.

Amazon can be a headache if you don't take advantage of their FBA program. Your competitors who does FBA will have the buy box advantage over you and it can go on for hours before your turn comes up.

It is annoying as anything. I have calculated shipping so I don't make a dime and usually it costs more at the post office because you have to get a tracking number for paypal. Unless you have free shipping then buyer can give you any rating than want and it usually isn't a 5. I mean dang, if you ship the same day you get payment and charge tham less than actual shipping, why do people give bad ratings.

10-15% in fees + shipping costs, unless you are sellling fakes or items in extreme demand that people are paying double retail for it is almost impossible to turn a buck on ebay any more.

I was a powerseller for a while but now if you file an unpaid buyer case it counts against you. Not only does your money get held up but they count it against you!?
I really don't know how eBay can continue on this path.

I lost my powerseller status about 2 months ago. Came from 1 motherfucker who gave me 1 dsr feedback for my shipping fees ROFL when he was the one who bought the items and the fees were clear as day on my auction, and they were maybe ONLY 5 dollars above actual shipping price.

Amazing. I'm pretty sure ebay is going to keep on implementing as many measures as possible to make sure they make the most profit, their sellers get fucked with no protection, and buyers get all the rights. Ebay is definitely a buyers market, not a sellers market.

Ebay fees + paypal + shipping you end up taking out about 25 percent of your final selling price, not to mention ebay is usually so oversaturated most of your items sell for way below market price.

And then ebay removed the 'duplicate listing' ability, so yet again, another way they win and sellers lose. The 2 or 3 percent of Top Sellers get the exposure while the rest of us toil in our losses from all this ridiculous bullshit.

I'm definitely giving Amazon a shot...at this point I have nothing to lose.

Originally Posted by xoxxx

eBay is getting closer and closer to being called eGay.

A few days ago they made the new Top Rated Seller status guide lines SUPER strict.

If you have more than 2 cases open in the resolution center at anytime it will count against you.

I had atleast 3 cases open on 4 of my ebay accounts because THE BUYER was at fault for NOT paying.

way to go ebay, Punish those that sell with you consistently, and reward the occasional seller.

Hello, I lost my TRS today because 0.52% of my 634 sells left less than 4 stars On shipping time. If you look at my star rating It's 5.0 5.0 4.9 and 4.9. I've never had a claim or neg feedback. So I guess I'm only a OK seller to ebay. I worked really hard for that 20% discount because my ebay bill is over 400.00 a month now it's gone over 0.52%. Thanks ebay for the lesson on how to sell.

My ebay account is restricted which i dont know why, wait i think i do. Some buyers change their mind in buying, in which i have to open cases to get my final value fee back, this is the most stupid reason to restrict my account cause to be honest i cant think of any other reason why i would be restricted.

I talked to ebay via live chat and the staff said it wasnt their department and they will notify the correct department which they will email me.

Why im i paying 10% fees for? if i have no protection (if buyers dont pay) and i cant leave a buyer a negative feedback for not paying. Stupid stupid ebay.

If i had enough money to compete against ebay i would, just charge 5% fees when an item sells and i would win customers from all over.

This is a 2 year old bump lol. I do agree that ebay is very hard when it comes to sticking to the rules. You get banned for everything on there

ebay is the best.

Fuck ebay.

I sense ebay asnd p.p are in trouble these days. No-where near as busy as it used to be....."th end is nigh"

yes it is an im startinga company that will definetly end them. wish they would fire him already you must listen to the people, I think JO has OCD though

I know this thread is a few years old but I wonder if its still a bad idea to open non-paying bidder cases..? I have unpaid item asst turned on, after 4 days eBay opens the case for me. I always have multiple cases open. Should I just roll with it or shut it off and quit opening cases? I currently have 2 open cases and 96 closed cases. This is all within the past couple of months. Literally 10% of people don't pay so I turned on unpaid item assistant in November. Account is top-rated and powerseller.


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