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    I will keep this simple for anyone looking to get into the bulk wholesale cellphone business. DON'T DO IT! The business is so full of scammers, hustlers, and thieves, it is VERY difficult to make any money. Plus, margins on cellphones are nowhere near what you would expect them to be. Typically, margins average from 1%-10%. If you have made up your mind and absolutely want to get into this business, then please read the following advice to help you be successful in this business and to help you from getting scammed.



    1. PAYMENTS
    Wire Transfer/TT are the standard payment method in this business. The upside is that the money is transferred from your bank account or your buyer's account very quickly, and it arrives to the seller's account quickly as well. The down side is that if the supplier/seller you or your buyer are paying IS a scammer, you will likely lose the money you transfer to them. This is why it is vital to verify any and all suppliers prior to doing any business with them. Other acceptable payment methods are: Fly and Buy(Where you would physically go to the supplier's location and inspect their warehouse and products, then pay and leave with the merchandise), Freight Forwarding(You make a deposit to the supplier, typically 10%-20%, they forward your order to a freight forwarding warehouse near you like Pilot, you go inspect at the freight forwarder's warehouse, pay for the product, and leave with your order), L/C(Letter of Credit), and Escrow. All of these are reasonable payment options. Every supplier will offer different methods to pay for your order.



    2. SUPPLIERS
    When checking the legitimacy of a supplier, get all their company info, and research them online prior to doing any business with them. See if they have a business that is incorporated, see if they have a Dunn & Bradstreet Number(DUNS), ask as many questions as possible, and ask for references. Any legitimate supplier, should have no problem giving you references. Anyone who says they don't give that information out, or that their customer information is private, is most likely a scammer. Just be careful and do your homework before you order from anyone. At the end of this Blog, I will give you a small list of suppliers that I have. It took me over 1 1/2 years to get this small list together, and cost me 10's of thousands of dollars to weed through the scammers. Some of the people on the list I have personally worked with, and some I haven't.



    3. FAQ's TO ASK YOUR SUPPLIERS
    Here are the main things you need to know: MOQ(minimum order quantity), brands and models they offer, accepted payment types, delivery times, are the phones authentic new and factory sealed, wholesale prices, how the phones will be delivered, which shipping company will they use, will they provide tracking numbers for your order(s), etc.



    4. SCAMMERS
    Scammers are everywhere in this business. Every country, every city in the world it seems like. Anyone you are considering ordering from, should almost always have a company email address, not a gmail or yahoo email address. Any supplier who says they accept Western Union or Money Gram is a 100% GUARANTEED SCAMMER! If the price of a product seems too low, then it probably is. People offer products that they don't even have in stock all the time at ridiculous prices. Always check everything out, and check everyone out. Also, try not to deal with other brokers. Usually they don't have all the information you need about whoever they are getting the products from(if they can even actually get it), prices are wrong, they take their time, they jack-up the prices so there is no profit to be made, and they don't usually do their research well enough on their supplier to know for a fact that they can actually deliver. Here are a few known scammers to stay away from:

    - Sebastian Alverius of ACI/Alverius and Company/MobileNiq
    - Dave Novy
    - Jon Santosuosso
    - Eddy Investments



    5. MISCELLANEOUS
    When starting out, you don't have to have a website for your business, and you will find that most suppliers don't either. That's why it is so hard to find them to begin with. All you really need is a D.B.A. License which you can obtain from your local County/City building. Mine was around $12. You go there, fill out a short form, including deciding what you want to call your company, then you are good to go. You should also set-up a bank account in your D.B.A. company name, to keep the money coming in from your business separate from your personal finances. Plus, when sending or receiving wire transfers/TT, your buyer or supplier will see a business name instead of your personal name. It looks a lot more professional. Another thing you may want to consider is getting a Tax ID#/EIN from the IRS if you live or are setting up in the U.S. You can go to the IRS website and get a Tax ID#/EIN for free online. If you have a Tax ID#/EIN, you can use that to open up your business bank account instead of using your social security number. You will have to file taxes for your business separately from your personal taxes though. Also, when you can, it is a good idea to incorporate to protect yourself and your business. I used incnow.com, and incorporated in Delaware(always incorporate in Delaware or Nevada) and I believe it was around $225 to get set-up, then $100 a year after the first year. Lastly, you will be acting as a broker. This means you find a supplier, you find a seller, and you make the deal happen and make a small profit for doing so. NEVER tell anyone you are a broker. Supplier's HATE brokers. Tell them you are a wholesaler. And, whenever you act as a broker, your best bet is to find an NDNC(Non-Disclosure/Non-Compete Agreement) online, and have one for the buyer to sign, and one for the seller. They both sign it, then you let the buyer pay the seller directly, and then the seller will pay you your commission. This way, if the seller is a scammer, and takes the buyer's money, you aren't liable to pay it back to the buyer. Good luck, and see the supplier list I have put together below.





    Company Name


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    Website


    Phone Number
    Desuper Wireless Jackie www.desuper.com 86-755-83622391
    Computer Mechanics on Call Alex Caballeros www.cmoncall.com 1-805-506-1810
    NUMAXX Dmitriy Dubovoy
    1-201-849-4536
    Quark Ashu www.quark-tech.com 212-629-1010
    CT Miami Michael Boccino www.ct-miami.com 305-715-7171
    SOL Group John www.solgroup.lt 440751567808
    World Star Wireless Jon www.worldstarwireless.com 323-930-1777
    Nisi International Sandeep Kedia
    971553189880
    Unimaven Alex www.unimaven.com 1-201-500-8040
    Impact Cellular Alan Ward www.impactcellular.com 732-236-6542
    iComm Sam
    1-516-984-8180
    Pinnacle Worldwide Jackie www.pinnacleworldwide.us 1-909-628-2200
    Smith & Associates Saad
    1-713-430-3957
    SMK Associates Martin Borg
    1-847-809-0920
    Skywire Brian
    1-317-658-2015
    Suma Distributors N/A www.sumadistributors.com/USA 1-305-470-9429
    Univargo GmbH Sebastian Korinth http://skorinth.wix.com/univargo 49163771528
    Apumac LLC Michael www.apumacexc.com 1-888-248-7775
    Andrew Einh Andrew Einh
    1-206-779-2809
    iTech Wireless Akhil
    1-718-445-8600
    Rainbow Concepts Ron Cantor
    1-609-712-5547

    *I am not personally guaranteeing the legitimacy of any of the above suppliers. Please do your homework before working with any supplier from my list, or anywhere else.
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    There is a supplier about smart cellphone.

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    They all sell smartphones.
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    Interesting, are the margins really that low? When buying in bulk I thought you would get a bigger discount. Anyway, thanks for sharing!

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    Thank you for posting this information. Much appreciated. Will take what you say into consideration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zouper View Post
    Interesting, are the margins really that low? When buying in bulk I thought you would get a bigger discount. Anyway, thanks for sharing!
    Believe it or not, the margins are that low, even in bulk. I think the only ones making a lot of money on cellphones are the manufacturers.
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    What about the used/refurbished market? there was a poster on here saying margins are up to 40% on there and I sorta believe it. Alotta ppl selling their phones dont know the true value and just looking for quick cash. The other day I coulda bought two iphone 5s for under 300

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    Quote Originally Posted by Globalization View Post
    What about the used/refurbished market? there was a poster on here saying margins are up to 40% on there and I sorta believe it. Alotta ppl selling their phones dont know the true value and just looking for quick cash. The other day I coulda bought two iphone 5s for under 300
    There are definitely much better margins on used phones. I did deal with some bulk suppliers of used phones, but never had anyone interested. If you can find people who want to sell you their used phones, you can turn around and sell them to a company like gazelle.com. They buy cell phones, tablets, iPhones, ipods, Macbooks, and Macs. My suggestion would be to post ads on craigslist or something stating that you are buying used phones and/or electronics. When someone emails or calls you, make sure you get pics of the product(s) to verify the condition, then go to gazelle.com and see what they would pay you. Then you buy the product from the seller, send it to gazelle, and they send you a check. Then just keep doing it. Obviously, you would need to have some money to start with in order to buy several products on a regular basis, but I think you could make a decent amount of money by just flipping used phones and electronics. You could also buy from people, list on ebay, sell on craigslist, or sell to a local business who would buy them. We have a few places in my area that will buy used phones and portable electronics. Hope that helps.
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    Scam alert: Matt K. Baker (1/4/67) and Matthew Reed cannot be trusted. Both were reps of a company called MobileNIQ. Matt K. Baker is based out of Seattle Washington and is trying to build a scam business out of the area. Please be careful of him. Just letting all of you know, to protect you all.

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    Default Re: Bulk Wholesale Cellphone Business: Getting started/how not to get scammed/my supplier

    Another person who has scammed a few of my clients: Chris Piper of the Midwest. He has scammed my European clients several times over.

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    Who have I scammed? I am not even in the cell phone business anymore, and have been out of it for a while now. But, I guess since you have a whopping 7 posts, everyone should believe you.

    I have gotten scammed several times because the cell phone business is 99% scammers and 1% legitimate suppliers, but I have not scammed anyone. There was someone we ordered from on behalf of a buyer we had in Europe, and our supplier turned out to be a scammer. The supplier always had an excuse for why he couldn't deliver. It took months, and eventually he did send the European buyer a delivery, and instead of iPad 2's, it turned out to be ceramic cups and bowls. I let the European buyer know throughout the process what was happening and how the supplier was not delivering. I even gave them the supplier's details and contact info. I'm not So, I have not scammed anyone.
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    IT WAS wise for this site to BAN Christopher Piper OF INDIANA, the man behind NATURALBORNTHRILLER. PIPER screwed over so many innocent people in the consumer electronics business, it's an actual surprise he has the nerve to classify anyone else as a scammer! He hurt so many people and took advantage of so much. But the administrators behind this site was wise enough to do the right thing. I just hope he doesn't hurt anyone else again.
    And as far as the list he created separating the scammers from the honest businesses- I actually know of several of those associated with the companies he classified as scams. They are honest, sincere respectful men who believe in nothing more than to earn an honest dollar. And for some of the companies on his 'honest' list, they have been known to screw the industry one to many times, ironically.
    Someone needs to pray for CHRISTOPHER PIPER. BUT IT SURE AS HELL WONT BE ME! He needs to see the edge of HELL!

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    ANOTHER PERSON TO BE ADDED ON THIS SCAM LIST IS MATTHEW KENT BAKER OF SEATTLE, WA. If you dont know who he is, you will once you Google his name. MATTHEW KENT BAKER. GOOGLE IT NOW AND KNOW THE TRUTH!

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    HAS ANYONE EVER HARD OF MIDWESTGSM?! They consider themselves a referrer of legitimate consumer electronic businesses and thier associates/owners. However, all I heard about them was nothing but bad news. What have YOU heard?!

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    Seems to me this is a childish revenge training scheme, plain and simple.
    Sebastian Alverius here! Ya know, the man that banned member NATURALBORNTHRILLER AKA Christopher Piper of Indiana calls a scammer! But were not here solely for me. So, let's get to the facts, shall we?!

    According to much of what I read, the steps that scammers would never take in business development were, in fact, some of the steps I actually took when I open/operated my business that presented my last name in its title, such as, opened and operated a PayPal account. But, many customers would consider ending thier relationships with the former Telsa family enterprise because it interferes in profit and private operations-it acts as the mommy and daddy, or BIG BROTHER, of most honest and hard working businesses. And since consumer electronics businesses are apart of a completely nonregulated industry (I desired ACI to be the first enterprise for regulating this high convoluted industry-maybe this is why I was framed by the worst conmen such as Matthew Kent Baker and Christopher Piper( one of Baker's accomplices)- for my passion to make something better was threatened by men only looking to line their pockets with unclean bills . If I am taking those steps as a "scammer," that would mean there are major flaws in your logic and teachings, Christopher Piper, former scammer of PowerOneMobile, based out of Indiana! (PowerOneMobile logo was the actual symbol for alarming radioactivity and biohazard waste! Subliminal message for something nerving, perhaps?! Meaning PowerOneMobile was in fact TOXIC?!)
    Maybe this is why you were banned from this site in the first place, Piper-you misled many of the members on it. Consider this, friends- Christopher Piper took it upon himself to identify several companies that has currently pissed off alot of innocent people and are no longer in existance. Maybe its becaise he was and still is trying to make money from referral bonuses by trying to market them and recruit all of you. Smell something fishy now, yall?! I call it a clear scam as any scam would be considered!
    As for me, CBS, Paramount, investigative units all checked out my side of the story and confirmed I am one of the most affected innocent bystanders they know to date. And the show segment airs in the spring 2015 on a new show with Judy Smith. Check it out and know the facts! Until then, please consider why Naturalbornthriller is no longer a member on this forum...


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