So care to comment on my question why a program called "Apple learns" is not Googleable? A search for the keywords "Apple learns" and "educational" places this thread on the first page.

Talked to dave. great guy. going to be putting in a trial run order very soon. if anyone has worked with him from this forum please post your experience so far, as i will do once things go through

I too am putting in an order - will post up the results.

Some gullible fools are about to get burned... Look at the signs goddammit. Remember the maxim "if it sounds too good to be true...". Jeez, sometimes it feels like BHW is nothing but a nursery school for the I-wanna-get-rich-quick crowd. At least TRY to understand market pricing before you piss away your savings on this.

You can click the thanks button when I've been proven right.

anyone had anything yet? even 1 piece?

Ok - I have sent the money for a trial order. Let's see what happens. I will post it here of the results.

So I can't pm you until I have more posts lol but I have an interest in doing this.

After sending the money, I got no response on Skype. I did get an email saying that I should get it any day now. I really hope I did not get scammed. Will continue to update.

I am looking to do business with Dave. He emailed me once but I have not heard back. Please post any updates. Thank You

Ohhh fuck... how stupid are you people?

This is gona be one big shit list thread and you guys have no one to blame but yourselves, your like a bunch of morons looking for a quick buck.

Seriously... the guy is only in the door of this forum and your sending him massive amounts of money already??? Catch a grip of yourselves...

Originally Posted by EvilEmperor

After sending the money, I got no response on Skype. I did get an email saying that I should get it any day now. I really hope I did not get scammed. Will continue to update.

Any update on the money you have sent?

Today is Sunday - let's see if anything comes in the mail tomorrow.

Apple keeps a hardcore lock on their products. I'll be curious to see how this plays out...

Even if you did get the product, chances are that 1. eBay wouldn't let you sell them as new 2. Amazon wouldn't sell you as new and 3. Apple would send you a cease and desist for using their intellectual property to market the products (images, etc.)

Most electronics distributors can't even get their products at a discounted price..

I would also like to see how this ends. Prices sound to good to be true

Can u get Mac mini's ? If yes please send details

Originally Posted by S.V.R.

Can u get Mac mini's ? If yes please send details

Please read the whole thread or just send me your money instead. You'll end up with the same amount of apple products either way.

Originally Posted by Stupid Smurf

Please read the whole thread or just send me your money instead. You'll end up with the same amount of apple products either way.

Lol. Thx. Got it

Update : Well, I think I have been scammed. Yes, perhaps I was a fool but I was willing to take a risk.

After I sent the money, he was never online and didn't reply.

Bank account was not even in his name and he had an invoice which he emailed to me.

He did send an email saying that his phone was buggy (coming from someone who sells iphones?) and he insisted on 5 products.

So go ahead and call me dumb, idiotic and foolish. I know.

I also got scammed on another forum for some work I wanted done and I foolishly paid using Liberty Reserve because the guy didnt want to use Paypal due to chargebacks.

Oh well.

So here are the lessons:

1. If they don't want to use Paypal, chances are they are scammers.
2. If they don't want to answer phone calls, chances are they are scammers.
3. I would use paypal, cause if they scam me, I can issue a chargeback (that has saved me before)
4. If the say their phone is buggy, chances are they are scammers.
5. Always pay 50% and the balance 50% after work is done to protect yourself.

I will still wait a few days and see. If he does not reply, does anyone know anyone in NJ who can look him up?

Originally Posted by EvilEmperor

1. If they don't want to use Paypal, chances are they are scammers.
2. If they don't want to answer phone calls, chances are they are scammers.
3. I would use paypal, cause if they scam me, I can issue a chargeback (that has saved me before)
4. If the say their phone is buggy, chances are they are scammers.
5. Always pay 50% and the balance 50% after work is done to protect yourself.

I will still wait a few days and see. If he does not reply, does anyone know anyone in NJ who can look him up?

You can add this to the list:
6. If they are offering a price with which you can undercut anyone on Ebay, sell hundreds of products every day, think to yourself "why do they give me this great opportunity to be a millionaire?".

As for waiting a few days to solve this, are you stupid? You need to involve the cops, the feds, the bank, right at this very instant.

How do I involve the bank, feds, and cops? Won't they say that it was on my own agreement that I sent the money? How will the bank stop the wire as it has already done through?

Yes - I am not aware of what I can do to get my money back and stop this guy from scamming other people. any help is much appreciated.

Originally Posted by EvilEmperor

How do I involve the bank, feds, and cops? Won't they say that it was on my own agreement that I sent the money? How will the bank stop the wire as it has already done through?

Well, you can start with calling them. Of course the transfer was done via agreement, but fraud is still a crime. The bank will not help you, but they might stop other wires from arriving.

What I would suggest though, is that you spend a couple hundred bucks more on a plane ticket and turn up at the doorstep of the scammer. Don't leave unless you receive either of the following: A Money. B Collateral C blood on your shoes.

Has anyone at least reported his user maybe the site moderators can help or at least delete the thread.

Also the best deal you can get in Brand new apple gear is buying it on base.

free sales tax on 100% brand new gear.

Can I get details on drop shipping?

I don't think the thread should be deleted so that other people can learn from my mistake.

Apparently another user who I am on with on Skype has also sent money and is waiting.

But yes, I will report the user so he can't post anymore of these kind of threads. But alas, I think he just wanted to scam 1 or 2 people and that was all he needed.

oh man that sucks. I was about to email him myself until I noticed he wanted all of my personal details, he could even hack your paypal or bank account with as much information as he was asking for.

this guy wow

Originally Posted by EvilEmperor

I don't think the thread should be deleted so that other people can learn from my mistake.

Definitely need to get a mod to edit his information out of the first post at least. There are "stupid people" seeing the first post and emailing him, without bothering to check the rest of the thread.

Exhibit A would be the person who just posted asking for more information.

Well another user who I am talking to is also pissed. So we are working on reporting him to the cops and then taking it from there. Karma will get him too!

Originally Posted by EvilEmperor

Well another user who I am talking to is also pissed. So we are working on reporting him to the cops and then taking it from there. Karma will get him too!

I was doing a little research about prices and decided not to pursue but now I'm glad I didn't. Sorry to hear about you others who got scammed tho.

How long has it been since anyone has placed an order?

IF YOU FELL FOR THIS SCAMMER CALL E*TRADE AND REPORT FRAUD ON HIS ACCOUNT (if you did wire transfer) HERES THE PHONE NUMBER:
1800-293-1621
MONDAY-FRIDAY 8AM-6PM EST

they told us to tell anyone else who got scammed

Good idea. I am going to do that. Apparently this douche bag is 28 years old. I was checking out other forums and then don't allow Apple products to be sold, eva! Might be a good idea here too. Just to protect the ignorant and honest (like me lol)

Wow after reading this thread I really feel bad for the scammed. Is there anything good anymore without being scammed? Probably not, when the red flags jump up and we chose to ignore them this is what happens. It totally sucks! I hope they catch this idiot and lock him up. IMHO!