Got my account banned the other day and all money stolen and they sent this email:

Commission Junction has discovered that you are inflating traffic (forcing clicks) to one or more of your affiliated advertisers in violation of the Commission Junction Publisher Service Agreement you agreed to follow. Clicks and Transactions are only considered valid when generated by an affirmative-action by a valid End-User/Visitor.

As a result, your Commission Junction account has been terminated from the Commission Junction Network, transactions may be reversed (“charged-back”),
and any attempt to rejoin the Commission Junction Network shall be null and void.

My site is just a simple 1 page antivirus download site that people find through search engines when they want to download an antivirus software. I placed a iframe on the page so that i can get commission from them if they choose to pay for the trial they downloaded after 30 days (tracking cookie expires in 60 days).

I look at their publisher agreement and it says ZERO about "affirmative-action" or anything related, and has nothing about "inflating clicks". They seem to be incompetent because affirmative-action is not a legal term and actually deals with the rights of minorities.

I emailed them back asking them where in their PSA it said that this is not allowed and they just replied with this

Please be advised the only time a cookie is allowed to be placed on an end user's computer is when they knowingly click on a link that will redirect them to an advertiser's site. *my seoed url* is not the advertiser's site so redirection here should not include an affiliate cookie being placed on their computer.

Obviously dodging the question but this is bs, i did nothing wrong. I can understand if i was cookie stuffing other peoples forums or something but this is a website that is for a free trial download of the product.

I guess if someone is a large network or any business in general they can just ban + steal your money for whatever reason and just pretend that you violated the invisible words on their website.

They are the #1 affiliate network in the world.

They are not a scam, even if them banning you was unfounded.

Create a new account and be stealthier.. also, they should still pay commissions owed.

By having the iframed offer open automatically on your 'authority' site, it automatically dropped a cookie without the user voluntarily clicking on a link leading to the sales page. Thats essentially what they're trying to convey.

I've noticed SOME cookies are dropped through a frame, and others are not - but they probably viewed this practice as something you may continue to do in the future.

I cross my T's and dot all of my i's with CJ. Like the previous poster said, they're the biggest mother suckers in the game. When the day comes that all these sub par mom & pop affiliate networks take a shit, and CJ has monopolized the industry, I'd like to remain in good standing.

I wouldn't argue your point, I'd get on my knees and suck some chode for forgiveness - get your account flying again and clear shit like that with you AM before pursuing. At least when it comes to CJ.

Funny how every time someone gets kicked for violating a network's tos they start a crappy thread screaming "scam!"

So you cookie stuffed the people entering your site and then got caught and are saying they scammed you? lol

It's easy to get another account with them i've had 3 but they WILL pay you your commissions - if the advertiser hasn't charged them back (only the pending ones) you will recieve your balance

just get a proxy new email new bank account


simples

yeah i will probably make a new account with my friends name or something. I honestly dont see why people are defending cj because they have most users, do you like obama only because he had most votes?

also dont see why some people itt think i was cookie stuffing. people search google to download antivirus -> they click on my link -> i get commission when they buy.

this is different from CS which goes:
person browses forum or generic website -> views a post with 100 iframes in it -> gets CSed

If they wanted you to do what you were doing they would supply pre made iframed
offers. Maybe this'll teach you to cover your arse when you walk through a gay bar.

I wouldn't call them a scam but tight asses definitely. I have had my fair share of commissions stolen from those bastards. The good part about CJ is that they are much easier to get an acct with then say hydra or some of the others. But when you strap a welcome mat to your ass, prepare to be fucked my friend.

Originally Posted by xboxlive

yeah i will probably make a new account with my friends name or something. I honestly dont see why people are defending cj because they have most users, do you like obama only because he had most votes?

also dont see why some people itt think i was cookie stuffing. people search google to download antivirus -> they click on my link -> i get commission when they buy.

this is different from CS which goes:
person browses forum or generic website -> views a post with 100 iframes in it -> gets CSed

Jesus mother effing christ sweetheart, dont you get it?

People dont like obama because he won the majority vote - We like Obama because he's black.

Point 2: Your users are not VOLUNTARILY clicking on a link that is sending them to your offer. It is loading AUTOMATICALLY and dropping a cookie against their WILL. Yes. That is COOKIE STUFFING.

Dude, It's Like Rape.

You are like a Rapist.

You are an Affiliate Rapist, please stop making claims to the contrary you virtual sex offender.

^^ lol @ stuffing = rape

It's not rape rape.

wow did he just say what cj is a scam. hahah thats funny - its a very big network that has pay many people to show its not a scam. they mite of banned u for a reason. it does not mean there a scam

CJ is dirty and has been for years now. You may be doing well with them but just image how much better you could be doing if they got rid of the BHO and eBates scams that pass for merchants on their system.

A couple of years ago this made the news:

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http://goyami.corante.com/archives/2006/01/31/are_affiliate_network_employees_stealing_your_business.php

The managers that walked away from CJ turned into Super Affiliates and they did it with your marketing information.

reqd

I cross my T's and dot all of my i's with CJ. Like the previous poster said, they're the biggest mother suckers in the game. When the day comes that all these sub par mom & pop affiliate networks take a shit, and CJ has monopolized the industry, I'd like to remain in good standing.

You may want to rethink that with GAN (Google Affiliate Network) in the picture now, CJ is going to have to rethink their tactics and how they treat their affiliates to stay ahead of GAN.

This is not to say you can't work with them and make money but you have to be realistic about how they play the game, it's like a casino, the odds are in their favor.

It's so funny to see when someone gets caught gaming the system and gets banned that they cry scam.

If you wanna game the system of any network, go ahead. But you better make sure you know how to do it right. If you don't, then you get banned.

Plain and simple.

CJ is not a scam. They one of the best affiliate networks to work with. They keep a very close eye on their affiliates, but they are not a scam.

hmmm why are like 1/3 of ppl saying im "gaming" cj lol. this is a whitehat site that makes maybe $2 day and i have lots of them with other networks doing exactly the same thing with zero issue, all other networks welcome it and say i am doing great work. i just think it is rude of cj to actively steal money from affiliates and they even charge fees just for having an account.

Look, whether you did it intentionally or NOT you were still committing the act. Perhaps the advertiser is more diligent in following up on publishers than those of your other network.

Just because you didnt know you were violating the terms doesnt mean that you werent at fault.

i.e. Just because she LOOKS 18 doesnt mean shes necessarily 18 fucking years old.

There are fucking thousands of men doing REAL time right now because they didnt KNOW they were breaking the law.

You should feel blessed that all you got was canned from an affiliate network.

i think you might be responding to the wrong thread because i wasnt sleeping with 18 year olds.

Originally Posted by flugglehorn

It's not rape rape.

I like to think of it as surprise sex

If you are going to be using BH methods you have to aware that high reward comes with high risk. Put a couple of quick LLCs together and have multiple companies running multiple offers.

Originally Posted by LadyHye

I like to think of it as surprise sex

hey, it made me chuckle... if it does that, it's worth a thanks

Whether you were aware of it or not, what you did is known as cookie stuffing and is a big no-no. CJ is the best of the best at fraud detection. Not saying that you knowingly committed fraud, but that's what the end result was.

Your landing page wasn't really a landing page because the iframe forced a click to the affiliate link without the user taking action (what CJ refers to as affirmative action, also called positive action by some networks).

For the record, CJ is probably the most trusted company in this line of business. They aren't in the business of scamming people like us out of their commissions.

The best way to get back in? Reapply.

-SDT

how much did u lost?

i think you might be responding to the wrong thread because i wasnt sleeping with 18 year olds.

get real cookie stuffing scripts and go back to doing what you were doing.

They banned you to cover there own ass! Just get a new account.

lol get the hell outta here......have fun getting back in eh

Originally Posted by xboxlive

yeah i will probably make a new account with my friends name or something. I honestly dont see why people are defending cj because they have most users, do you like obama only because he had most votes?

also dont see why some people itt think i was cookie stuffing. people search google to download antivirus -> they click on my link -> i get commission when they buy.

this is different from CS which goes:
person browses forum or generic website -> views a post with 100 iframes in it -> gets CSed

Why do you want to create another new account on a scam network?

CJ and MJ both hate you being the noob ways of black

Iframe is such an fucked up way to drop cookies its 2000 technology get a better method for stuffing cookies if you need any chance

Second a better way dont do cookie stuffing, and try to have some morals...atleast some not that I am an saint

OP- Just wondering if you ever managed to get back in??

Originally Posted by silent_thunder

Iframe is such an fucked up way to drop cookies its 2000 technology get a better method for stuffing cookies if you need any chance

retard.

I have 170.000 green reasons that say CJ is legit.

Originally Posted by indexyoursite

I have 170.000 green reasons that say CJ is legit.

Yawn...
Hi, mister big shot...

170.000 wow!!

Cj are good!
Been using them for a long time always payments on time etc and OK support.

CJ has been ok over the years, Linkshare is the one Scam! They will report your sites to anyone who resembles a trademark or owner of a company you are promoting. They blow and rarely pay what you earn.

Originally Posted by xpert

This is same to me. I have earn $5000 just a one month in cj using flashstuffer until they terminate my account. yeahhh the good lesson not to use flashstuffer....

Good to know.

Id like to know why I have 15,000 impressions but not a dime...

CJ is a dying art in the IM world. And that opinion isn't coming from my little knowledge base. That's coming from a super affiliate who has taken companies from 3m a year to 60m a year through their traffic alone... in one year's time.

You should be wise enough to know that when you check off the little box, you are agreeing to terms that essentially sign your rights away to CJ. That's the point. They can afford $1k/hour attorneys. You can't. They win. End of story.


Life's a bitch my friend.

so how much did you loose buddy

So CJ is not SCAM finally? :P

No CJ is not a scam but they do track clicks, I also got a mail once about inflating clicks, and that time my account with that advertiser was expired. But they are still paying me for other advertisers.. so they are not scam.

i have had ok luck with them. they seem fair enough.
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Sucks.. I'd be pissed too.

All these affiliate networks are coming up with ways that you can't advertise or link and I think it all goes back to google.

Dude

You broke the rule, you got punished...live with it...
Create a new account and a new page and try again.

Just Dont Shout SCAM when you are at the wrong.

C