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    Hello everyone.

    Is there an easy and effective way to hide (anonymous) your IP address and Mac address (router, NIC and Wifi card)?

    Proxy sites like:
    Hide my ass
    anonymouse org only hide IP address right?

    They can still track you down by your MAC address on your cable modem, Network router, NIC card or Wifi card right?

    So basically, I am asking if there is an easier method having to keep on manually changing the Mac address and restarting the router, etc...




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    You can download tmac address changer to change your mac when you want

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    SMAC, Mac Adress Spoofing:

    SMAC is a powerful, yet an easy-to-use and intuitive Windows MAC Address Modifying Utility
    (MAC Address spoofing) which allows users to change MAC address for almost any Network Interface
    Cards (NIC) on the Windows VISTA, XP, 2003, and 2000 systems, regardless of whether the manufacturers
    allow this option or not.



    To get this free tool, just google SMAC.

    This is professional, yet simpel tool to ''hide'' your real mac address. I have been using it for a while and it does the job.
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    i think there is an ip and mac spoofer shared here years ago.. i just don't know how well it can hide your ip and mac

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    Having spent some time looking for true anonymity, thus far I think the solution is a VPN (they are cheap) that has a solid privacy policy. HMA keeps records and will hand them over to anyone for any reason. I would want a VPN that never keeps anything. From what I have read, some VPNs might have some temporary records of their client's browsing, but those get deleted about every 24 hours. It's an ambiguous specification, but I think falls within the boundries of "good enough".

    So then the next question is whether or not the VPN (which ever one you use) passes on, or COULD pass on, the MAC address. There's a secondary conversational thread that has to do with Java and whether or not it's possible for a website owner to interrogate a browser's computer for the MAC. My opinion is that it can, and they probably do. Certainly Law Enforcement does and can. Assuming that it is possible for a computer running Java to deliver the MAC address on demand, does the use of a VPN prevent that? I don't think so.

    Another thing to think about/worry about is browser fingerprinting, which also raises the question of whether or not the unique, or near-unique identifiers will be passed on through a VPN.

    In a more general sense, I think the idea of functional, law-enforcement and government-proof method of anonymous web browsing to be completely under-discussed, and probably under-monetized. Most of the references that I see to it are academic, white-paper style discussions on a theoretical level, and there does not seem to be a simple, easy-to-utilize method/system of web browsing that is specifically designed to prevent nosy and highly technologically developed entities (meaning government) from finding out what people are doing online.

    And not for any specific purpose either, but as a general standard of basic human privacy. We don't walk around in public with our junk on display, we don't mail-off snail-mail letters without sealed envelopes and for those same reasons (and many others) I think there needs to be an overtly stated message that the consensus is that government's have no business casually browsing through the communications of the people that they oppress, er-, I mean "govern".

    And why beat just the government (whatever/whoever that may mean to any particular person)? Because if people establish a firm line of defense against uninvited government intrusion into their personal lives, then it sets a much higher standard for all other entities that might want your data, such as corporations, marketers, etc... If the government can't have it, Google sure as fuck can't have it either. So, you set the standard high for the most-powerful entity, that might have the most compelling reason to violate your inherent right to privacy, and then you are safe from all other intrusions also. Unless someone wants to violate the Law, which is written to protect you from them, and not written to use you to help make their profits. We have an either/or choice here, and I suggest people pick the right one, or someone else will pick the wrong one for you.

    Otherwise, you get what we have now, which is an "evolving" (meaning meaningless) standard that completely depends on who it is that wants the data, for what purpose and at what level of anonymity. Marketers can have "x" data for "y" purposes with a level of "z" anonymity, but the Socialized Medical "community" can have more data, for different purposes with less anonymity, etc... If one predicts where this multiple entity, multiple standards and highly complex and variable equation goes, eventually they can pretty much do whatever the fuck they want with your data, for any reason that they decide, and the standards for your privacy will be handed to you by THEM, in the fine print of some document labeled "Terms of Service", much like the language that you agree to when you use a Microsoft product, or that yearly document you get from the Bank.

    They should just dispense with all those words and tell the truth, which would look like this:

    Dear Anonymous User,

    We can do whatever the fuck we want, and all you can do about it is complain to someone that doesn't even speak your language.

    Sincerely, go fuck yourself,

    The Invisible Entity that Has Power Over You.
    So, when I consider this possible future, and look for ways to avoid it, I conclude that the only way to prevent this eventuality is to simply prevent anyone from looking into anything for any reason. Good, workable encryption and the legal right to use it, with good & workable methods for anonymous data transmission & reception.
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    I finally gave up and bought a 1st gen ipad for 200 bucks and just go to starbucks and use their wifi, best move I ever made

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    Ratedr: Yes but they can still track the starbucks Ip address and the router MAC address at that location.

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    Thanks Jonny! That is the most insightful post so far.

    As of now, I have a solid solution but it is slow and time consuming.

    This is my solution:
    1. Use Vmware to do a fresh install of Windows 7 or XP
    2. Disable all network connections and network cards in device manager
    3. Use a Dial Up modem to dial up and connect to the internet (dial up modem do not have MAC address)
    4. Enable private browsing in FF

    After the private session is done, disconnect and delete the VMware Windows installation.

    Rinse and repeat #1-4 after every session with new dial up number.

    As you can see, it is very time consuming and I want something with faster internet connection and more efficient than manually changing the MAC address or switching out the hardware.

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    http://securitykiss.com is decent free VPN

    mac address is not so important as are cookies and LSO (flash) cookies, so either use the anonymous browsing and/org get better privacy plugin

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    The stuff I am trying to do, they track mac addresses so I need to spoof it at all time.

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    Hiding IP address is enough. Website can't know your MAC address. They can only know your IP address.

    So web proxy or proxy software is enough for you. If you really want to hide MAC address, you can modify your MAC address by Regedit on Windows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by myproxy View Post
    Hiding IP address is enough. Website can't know your MAC address. They can only know your IP address.
    Running Java Script will hand over your MAC Address.
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    Websites know only the IP address, not mac. So hiding IP is enough. You can use web proxy. If you are not worried about time consuming process, you can use VMware which is the latest trend in it. But for every session you have to delete the VMware Windows installation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tariq Ghazi View Post
    Websites know only the IP address, not mac. So hiding IP is enough. You can use web proxy. If you are not worried about time consuming process, you can use VMware which is the latest trend in it. But for every session you have to delete the VMware Windows installation.
    This, this, this, this, a million times, this.
    There have been countless debates on this forum, but please, once and for all, a website cannot detect your MAC address without using some very illegal techniques.

    If you are just using a website (you're not downloading and running any software from that website) then it is a technical impossibility for that website to detect your MAC address. I was just going to leave it there, but I'm on a long train journey, and this question keeps cropping up, so here is a proper explanation for next time this question comes up.

    To begin with, you must understand that the Internet (in general) runs on a collection of communication protocols known as TCP/IP. This is a 'layered' model which, in it's most simple form, sets out how data must be formatted and sent from an origin to a destination. Within the TCP/IP model, there are four different layers, outlined below:


    • Link - Communication between single nodes of a LAN ['Local Area Network']
    • Internet - Communication between multiple independent LANs
    • Transport - End-to-end communication to the correct application (creating packets, source and destination ports, etc)
    • Application - Specific protocols for certain types of data communication, for instance, the File Transfer Protocol (FTP), Hyper-Text Transfer Protocol (HTTP), etc.


    The MAC address is used in the link layer and makes it possible for multiple nodes in a LAN to communicate to each other over a shared medium, such as Ethernet, Wifi, etc. This means that when data is sent from your router to another network (using the Internet layer), the MAC address of your computer is not sent as it would be meaningless data and an inefficient use of data transfer. This means that a web server responding to an HTTP request (in the application layer) has absolutely no idea what your computers MAC address is unless they reside on the same physical network.

    If you'd like any further explanation, please either PM me or write here, and I'll get back to you ASAP.

    Now, whenever this this is discussed there is always somebody that says something along the lines of 'omg but leik Amazon r tracking my MAC address I know it it's the only explanation'. Well, if you can find me a single piece of code which allows an HTTP server to detect the MAC address of a remote host, please, post it here, and I'll eat my words. If not, kindly fellate a rake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JFoulds View Post
    This, this, this, this, a million times, this.
    There have been countless debates on this forum, but please, once and for all, a website cannot detect your MAC address without using some very illegal techniques.
    Bullshit. A million times bullshit.

    1) Post a copy of the legislation that outlaws the techniques of finding out a visitors MAC Address.
    2) Post a link describing those techniques.

    And finally, none of that matters anyways, because government entities can do anything they want. There's no such thing as "illegal", and when the government has the information, they can give it to anyone they want. There's this guy named Snowden. You should read about him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonny Quick View Post
    Bullshit. A million times bullshit.

    1) Post a copy of the legislation that outlaws the techniques of finding out a visitors MAC Address.
    2) Post a link describing those techniques.

    And finally, none of that matters anyways, because government entities can do anything they want. There's no such thing as "illegal", and when the government has the information, they can give it to anyone they want. There's this guy named Snowden. You should read about him.
    Jesus holy fuck son, did you hit every branch on the dumb-ass tree on the way down or did someone just beat you with a log once you'd landed?

    If you actually read my post, you'd understand that it was impossible for a website to detect a MAC address through HTTP. It wouldn't, however, be impossible for them to detect it if they exploited your browser and installed malware on your local machine - which would be...lets think...illegal.

    Government entities can't perform literally impossible acts. If my router doesn't communicate the MAC address of my host machine to any higher tiered networks, then it's impossible for anyone to find it out.

    I'll use a simple example so you don't get confused:


    1. I write 'Jonny Quick is a dumbass' on a piece of paper, and 'JFoulds doesn't lack basic logical reasoning' on another, and pass them to a friend.
    2. My friend puts the piece of paper saying 'JFoulds doesn't lack basic logical reasoning' in an envelope, and burns the other piece of paper.
    3. He then posts that envelope to Julian Assange.


    It doesn't matter how much someone looks at the piece of paper in the envelope, they'll never be able to know the message written on the piece of paper that was burned in my house.

    Mmmkay, pumpkin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JFoulds View Post
    Mmmkay, pumpkin?
    Hay you little cunt. I read this story and thought of YOUR retarded ass. Looks like a lot of people got busted because, as it turns out javascript will hand over your MAC Address.

    The malicious code in question doesn't download any executables to a victims’ computer or tries to steal any login data. Rather, it uses Javascript to collect the hostname and MAC address of a person's computer, exactly the exact kind of data that Tor users are hoping to keep private while surfing the Internet.
    http://www.techspot.com/news/53516-t...ng-attack.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonny Quick View Post
    Hay you little cunt. I read this story and thought of YOUR retarded ass. Looks like a lot of people got busted because, as it turns out javascript will hand over your MAC Address.

    http://www.techspot.com/news/53516-t...ng-attack.html
    Hey Jonny,
    First of all, it's interesting to note that you took what, about a month, to come up with a response to my previous post. For future reference, it usually looks a bit better if you can think of a retort within a few minutes, instead of multiple weeks!

    As I've said multiple times in this thread, and here are some quotes, as we've already established you're unable to read through an entire post:
    Quote Originally Posted by JFoulds View Post
    There have been countless debates on this forum, but please, once and for all, a website cannot detect your MAC address without using some very illegal techniques.
    Quote Originally Posted by JFoulds View Post
    It wouldn't, however, be impossible for them to detect it if they exploited your browser and installed malware on your local machine - which would be...lets think...illegal.
    Now, I'd suggest asking an adult to read these (you could even play a fun game where you try and read them without adult supervision and get gold stars if you manage to remember an entire quote!), but the jist of them is that it's possible for a webserver to detect your MAC address only if they exploit your browser and execute malicious code.

    Next, we can look at a number of news sources:
    Hmmm, how about here, here, here and say, here/here (the last ones would be my personal favourite, they're actually the sources referenced in your article!).

    If we read through the article, again, you might want to ask a supervising adult to do this for you (we wouldn't want you to hurt that little brain of yours by straining it with adult material!) you can see that the Javascript in question was a browser exploit MFSA2013-53 for the FireFox browser which, to quote the resource from the Tor project:

    The vulnerability allows arbitrary code execution, so an attacker could in principle take over the victim's computer.
    So it looks like the Javascript in question illegally exploited the browser to execute malicious code and detect the local MAC address of the computer, sending it to the third-party server. Now think back, where have we heard something like that before?

    That's right Jonny! In my original quotes!
    Quote Originally Posted by JFoulds View Post
    There have been countless debates on this forum, but please, once and for all, a website cannot detect your MAC address without using some very illegal techniques.
    Quote Originally Posted by JFoulds View Post
    It wouldn't, however, be impossible for them to detect it if they exploited your browser and installed malware on your local machine - which would be...lets think...illegal.
    Today's lesson should have taught you the value of properly sourcing your material before attempting (and failing, badly) to counter an arguement - and, of course, the value of adult supervision while posting on an online forum!

    You're more than welcome to save this lesson and repeat it as many times as necessary until the key points have really sunk in.

    If you're going to respond with something you think is intelligent, I'd recommend stopping, breathing, counting to 10 slowly, and then sodomising yourself with a rake, you useless, abhorrent, shitstain on our society.

    Have a nice day now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahiddenman View Post
    Oh my God. Not the deep web!!!!! Be afraid people!

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    Thank you so much! I will print it out to know what you mean.

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    The MAC address is not supplied by the browser as part of it's request and is not accessible via client side javascript.I think a vpn is safe enough and it's not so expensive

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    Incase you didnt know, mac addresses can be seen/accessed in starbucks wifi or any public wifi, im not sure about home connection

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    Quote Originally Posted by JFoulds View Post
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    If you'd like any further explanation, please either PM me or write here, and I'll get back to you ASAP.
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    Greetings!

    I wanted to write a PM to you, but it did not allow me so I will post it in this topic.
    Of course anybody is free to answer it, I just adressed it to JFoulds because reading his posts I felt he is competent enough to give a precise answer.

    I would like to ask you a few simple questions about MAC addresses and "hiding" them.

    I have a cable modem that my ISP gave me. This modem is connected to a router and my PC is connected to the router.
    This is my internet connection setup.
    I have a software that I use regularly, I will call this software "client". This is not a web browser and it is capable to run any code on my machine.
    This client collects information about my PC and sends it to it's server.
    I know that at least 1 MAC address is part of this information.
    However I don't know which device's MAC address it collects.
    I'm sure it is possible for it to get my computer's network interface's (LAN card) MAC.

    I'd like to ask these questions:

    Is it possible for a software that runs on a PC to get those network device's MAC addresses that are "behind" the PC's network card, like the router's MAC?
    If yes, "how far" can it detect those MAC adresses? If I put a switch or another router between my first router and the PC will it be able to detect the MAC's of all the devices or only the one's that is directly connected to the PC's network card?


    Thank you in advance for your answer!

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    You can change MAC address manually by MAC address spoofing methods like iproute and macchanger, also you can do with the software's like "Hide my IP" and "Hide my MAC".

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    Quote Originally Posted by JFoulds View Post
    This, this, this, this, a million times, this. There have been countless debates on this forum, but please, once and for all, a website cannot detect your MAC address without using some very illegal techniques..
    Actually my friend you are very wrong. Mainstream belief is that Mac Addresses do not cross broadcast domains (router). Although this is true as far as your personal computer, the Mac Address is exchanged once again of the router you're using which is connecting you to your ISPs centralized server and CAN be discovered via packet forensics. But that's tinfoil hat talk and requires control over multiple nodes ;3 Anyways where TMAC or any other Mac Address spoofing software comes in handy is if law enforcement or your ISP traces the malicious traffic back to your modem, views the logs on your modem which contain logs of all connections (Including Mac Addresses). Meaning it's nearly impossible to prove the traffic DIDN'T come from a user which hacked into your network since the Mac Address is different from the one on your PC/Laptops NIC. IMO the safest/easiest way to be relatively anonymous would be to use a VM, change network settings so it's assigned it's own IP address (hence not NATing off yours), use a mac changer of your liking with a VPN and a socks proxy and for god sakes make sure java is disabled, or better yet just use noscript if your REALLY paranoid. But let's be honest, if the NSA wants you, they'll catch you. They caught the owner of Silkroad, a man who swore he was had god like anonymizing skills.
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    VPN is good. But, if you need to hide, and repeat, you need to spoof MAC address. No question.

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    hope all of ud b nice on my 2c

    i understand the challenge of true anonymity, my headaches date back from 96.
    was impossible then, n it's still so.

    'every' single component of the computer you are using has an embedded serial number.
    a unique id that cannot be altered.

    if you swim in the http protocol, you leave a stamp of some component of your hardware with authorities to match and identify.

    now, serious agents after you would somehow get their hands on this and id you.

    networks are growing by the nano second, exchanging your information with other networks for their revenue.

    your info is virtually hanging everywhere.

    every binary bit of info thats relates to your activity will sort on its own and be stored in a folder named after you.

    couple of years back, (2011) a forum dedicated for something i cant tell had a solution that did the impossible, spoof every hardcoded hardware unique. that engineering was spectacular.

    after one of the periodic updates, coded to destroy the program.
    sense it was serious business.

    find that darn thing and my cpa earnings will hit the millions again.

    the only way for true anonymity is securing a laptop bought with cash by someone other than yourself, and leave no trace, not a single digital bit.

    sadly, vpns and mac spoof wont do the job. thats kids playing programming and people making money off you. wake up.

    one of my secrets.
    all the bad business outsourced.

    on elance for $2.50/hr.

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    Funny how anyone takes MAC addresses seriously as far as Internet security goes, because it can be changed and cloned and spoofed(and you name it).

    MAC addresses are supposed to be a tool for local network routing, not anything else. I have no idea how javascript can find your MAC address from within the browser sandbox, but in any case, if you're using Linux or any other real operating system, MAC can be made to be anything, as the manufacturers never intended it to be secure or unique.

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    http://burn-out.ro is a fast web proxy that i use

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    Just use TorBundleBrowser.. its a encrypted variation of mozilla firefox.. just stay away from the .onion domains... all im saying

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    I use to have to do this all the time.

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    Proxies suck for hiding your IP. I would invest in a dedi VPN and if you really need to do ip -> proxy -> VPN.

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    If you really want to be secured download backtrack study it a bit

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoughNeckMarketing View Post
    Actually my friend you are very wrong. Mainstream belief is that Mac Addresses do not cross broadcast domains (router). Although this is true as far as your personal computer, the Mac Address is exchanged once again of the router you're using which is connecting you to your ISPs centralized server and CAN be discovered via packet forensics. But that's tinfoil hat talk and requires control over multiple nodes ;3 Anyways where TMAC or any other Mac Address spoofing software comes in handy is if law enforcement or your ISP traces the malicious traffic back to your modem, views the logs on your modem which contain logs of all connections (Including Mac Addresses). Meaning it's nearly impossible to prove the traffic DIDN'T come from a user which hacked into your network since the Mac Address is different from the one on your PC/Laptops NIC. IMO the safest/easiest way to be relatively anonymous would be to use a VM, change network settings so it's assigned it's own IP address (hence not NATing off yours), use a mac changer of your liking with a VPN and a socks proxy and for god sakes make sure java is disabled, or better yet just use noscript if your REALLY paranoid. But let's be honest, if the NSA wants you, they'll catch you. They caught the owner of Silkroad, a man who swore he was had god like anonymizing skills.
    I think someone who says "You cannot catch me" is pretty much lining themselves up to be found

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    This thread has been educational to say the least. Best way in my opinion is to use someone else's computer and network. That pretty much has no chance of leading back to you. Of course you don't want to get caught doing that either. One way would be remote control program like Teamviewer (leaves pop up after you exit on the screen but way around that is just reboot the pc as the last thing you do) on someone you aren't too fond of who leaves their pc on all the time and set it to lock out the local user's keyboard and mouse and make the screen black. You probably would have to also use this method in the middle of the night so they aren't trying to use it at the same time. Then set a scheduled task to run at PC start up that uses a secure delete program to delete the Teamviewer logs. That way if they ever do come to kick the door in it won't be yours

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    For anonymity, you need to hide your ip and delete cookies when starting a new session.
    MAC addresses do not get passed on tcp/udp packets as defined in the OSI model.
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    For IP hiding, the best is TOR.

    For MAC, you can use SMAC.

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    There are many IP and Mac spoofers on the internet. If you are able to just hide your IP address then no need to worry for the Mac address because it is never tracked. However try the SMAC free tool to hide or change your real Mac address.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoughNeckMarketing View Post
    But let's be honest, if the NSA wants you, they'll catch you. They caught the owner of Silkroad, a man who swore he was had god like anonymizing skills.
    JFoulds is too well-informed and argues too passionately in favor of the existence of electronic privacy for him to be anyone other than Law Enforcement. Or a fat, holster-sniffing wannabe. People believe his illogical bullshit at their own risk. His retarded argument boils down to simply claiming that technologically they (the government) can't, until you prove that technologically they can, and then the cunt says they won't, because it would be illegal.

    There's nothing more substantive behind his posts than that. He really wants you to believe that government is going to obey the law, and not violate the law in order to enforce the law upon people that are breaking the law.

    And if you believe that, you are as retarded as he is, and deserve to be put in prison when you get caught, and probably by a soft, pudgy government parasite just like him. The core of his argument is that our collective privacy and anonymity is safe because our government is protecting it, when in fact our government has been illegally gathering personal information on it's citizens for years, and then using that information to blackmail elected officials into voting in ways and doing official acts that they might not otherwise do, such as passing Nationalized Health Care, and refusing to prosecute the Attorney General for selling automatic weapons to the Mexican Drug Cartel.

    This is a Black Hat forum. We presume to ignore certain standards and prohibitions and do things our own way and for our own reasons, and collectively all of our activities pose some risk to us as individuals. Stupid people that choose this path get caught, ergo by committing ourselves to these black hat actions we are implicitly stating our belief in our superiority. And superior is as superior does, and what superior does NOT do is pay attention to and give credence to dribbling retards that advocate in favor of the protection of a State that has only it's own survival and quality of life in mind. We rejected that shit a long time ago, way back there. If we believed in complying with authority and doing what we were told, we wouldn't be on a black hat forum to begin with. At least that's how it should be. JFoulds doesn't belong here. He lacks the blackhat values, and he is intellectually weak and has an overwhelming desire to please and serve authority, and look like a big-shot while doing it. Improving the quality of his own life at the expense of the people he claims to protect and serve. Depriving them of their life's resources in order to enrich himself, and using the power of the State to do it. And that's not a black hat, that's a cop.
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    You can clone your MAC address directly from Windows and use a public proxy or buy private proxy.

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    Thank u mate ur sharing information rgarding this hiding ip adress and other information
    from government and other security agencies close to realit.But people do ordinary things to make few bucks or just to go high up in ranking should be worried that much and they cqn get away with using vpn and other similar methods

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonny Quick View Post
    JFoulds is too well-informed and argues too passionately in favor of the existence of electronic privacy for him to be anyone other than Law Enforcement. Or a fat, holster-sniffing wannabe. People believe his illogical bullshit at their own risk. His retarded argument boils down to simply claiming that technologically they (the government) can't, until you prove that technologically they can, and then the cunt says they won't, because it would be illegal.

    There's nothing more substantive behind his posts than that. He really wants you to believe that government is going to obey the law, and not violate the law in order to enforce the law upon people that are breaking the law.

    And if you believe that, you are as retarded as he is, and deserve to be put in prison when you get caught, and probably by a soft, pudgy government parasite just like him. The core of his argument is that our collective privacy and anonymity is safe because our government is protecting it, when in fact our government has been illegally gathering personal information on it's citizens for years, and then using that information to blackmail elected officials into voting in ways and doing official acts that they might not otherwise do, such as passing Nationalized Health Care, and refusing to prosecute the Attorney General for selling automatic weapons to the Mexican Drug Cartel.

    This is a Black Hat forum. We presume to ignore certain standards and prohibitions and do things our own way and for our own reasons, and collectively all of our activities pose some risk to us as individuals. Stupid people that choose this path get caught, ergo by committing ourselves to these black hat actions we are implicitly stating our belief in our superiority. And superior is as superior does, and what superior does NOT do is pay attention to and give credence to dribbling retards that advocate in favor of the protection of a State that has only it's own survival and quality of life in mind. We rejected that shit a long time ago, way back there. If we believed in complying with authority and doing what we were told, we wouldn't be on a black hat forum to begin with. At least that's how it should be. JFoulds doesn't belong here. He lacks the blackhat values, and he is intellectually weak and has an overwhelming desire to please and serve authority, and look like a big-shot while doing it. Improving the quality of his own life at the expense of the people he claims to protect and serve. Depriving them of their life's resources in order to enrich himself, and using the power of the State to do it. And that's not a black hat, that's a cop.

    It's incredible that someone as deluded as you has somehow acquired the skills to even turn on a computer, let alone use one.

    For anyone who's actually interested in, you know, reality, I'd suggest reading up on the OSI model, which clearly shows how the MAC address is never transmitted away from your local network. Anyone who is curious about this and wants to double check what I'm saying is true, I'll gladly answer any further questions in this thread.

    On the other hand, a quick Google search, might be able to find a couple of sources confirming what I'm saying is true and Johnny Quick is a fucking moron.

    Ignore this paranoid fool, and if you're unsure about something like this then remember that the best way to find out the truth is to do some research yourself. Obviously however, I'm clearly an alien here to steal your MAC addresses for my race to feed on. But you know, each to their own.


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    yip yip yop yop
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    Hey friend
    the stuff i am trying to do, they track mac addresses so i need to spoof it at all time....
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