Hello Black Hat World, this is my first post here and I will try to tell you my situation with as few words as possible. I would love to read your replies because I am starting to feel depressed.

I am 22 years old from Greece and I feel useless. I have worked to some jobs here since I was 15 but as a little boy (and a shitty country) they could easily steal from me as a worker. You can't say anything cause "if you don't like it find another job". But I was experimenting to find a better job all these years.

Now all the stores are closing and it's so hard to find the simpliest job. I want to help my parents and my mother cause she is ill and I just can't. I've never wanted much money to be happy. Even if I want to do many things (skateboarding, skiing or even going out with dinner without having to think about money) I am still happy with little stuff. I hate that the money rules the world but I have to accept it. And as everybody I need the damn money to help the people I care and I will do big things like charities If I had money.

So I found clickbank as an alternative. Many guys here tell me that I rule in music production stuff (mixing music). So I created some videos to sell and promote about 1 aspect of mixing: The Equalizer. It's called "The Ultimate EQ Guide" and shows everything you need to know to master the EQ.
Maybe I can make 200 euros this way (or more with your help who knows) to buy an audio device so I can start charging people for my mixing/mastering services.

I feel desperate but I am not here to beg for money.

What I would like from you is to tell me (or send me thread links) of how I can make my clickbank product successfull. I've read some threads that some people make around 7.000$ a month and I was like "no way".

I would really appreciate it if you could cheer me up and make me believe in myself again. I've registered to a forum just to ask for help and that shows how desperate I am I guess.... I really liked when someone asked for help to a different thread you replied to him with so much kindness. That made me register and ask for the same I guess.

Finally I would like to know how I can get approved to post my Clickbank product so you can promote it. I give 75% commision. Please take easy on me If something has been told before I am totally new here..

P.S: For those who think "a Greek guy... he steals our money and now asks for help" because of the events that's happening I want to tell you that no Greek has a wonderful life with your money, trust me. 90% of the families get paid around 300 euros or less a month and we are forced to pay 700 or more...
It's the Greek government that stole, not us, and we hate them as much as you do.

P.S2: Sorry for my bad English and for the long post. I had more to say but that would be tiring.

P.S3: If I can make some money I would like to know how much it costs for advertising.


Thanks again all of you.

Have a nice day.

Making a product work is a tough job, if i were you i would first start making money yourself as an affiliate.

I have my own blog but it has low traffic because the competition is way to big. I ve added some banners but no one bought anything (well if someone's blog has low traffic the chance of someone to click AND buy something is too little).

I believe my product really gives what it promises I could post a link to tell me if the squeeze page is well optimized but I don't know if I break the rules (waiting confirmation). I could send you the link in a pm but I have less than 15 posts so I can't do that.

Maybe you can give me a couple of tips make money as an affiliate?


Thanks for the reply man really appreciate it.

i dont know a lot about clickbank or things like that but i know that im 22 from greece and im skateboarding too :P hope that cheers you up hehe

Originally Posted by psixanwmalos

Hello Black Hat World, this is my first post here and I will try to tell you my situation with as few words as possible. I would love to read your replies because I am starting to feel depressed.

I am 22 years old from Greece and I feel useless. I have worked to some jobs here since I was 15 but as a little boy (and a shitty country) they could easily steal from me as a worker. You can't say anything cause "if you don't like it find another job". But I was experimenting to find a better job all these years.

Now all the stores are closing and it's so hard to find the simpliest job. I want to help my parents and my mother cause she is ill and I just can't. I've never wanted much money to be happy. Even if I want to do many things (skateboarding, skiing or even going out with dinner without having to think about money) I am still happy with little stuff. I hate that the money rules the world but I have to accept it. And as everybody I need the damn money to help the people I care and I will do big things like charities If I had money.

So I found clickbank as an alternative. Many guys here tell me that I rule in music production stuff (mixing music). So I created some videos to sell and promote about 1 aspect of mixing: The Equalizer. It's called "The Ultimate EQ Guide" and shows everything you need to know to master the EQ.
Maybe I can make 200 euros this way (or more with your help who knows) to buy an audio device so I can charge people for my mixing/mastering services.

I feel desperate but I am not here to beg for money.

What I would like from you is to tell me (or send me thread links) of how I can make my clickbank product successfull. I've read some threads that some people make around 7.000$ a month and I was like "no way".

I would really appreciate it if you could cheer me up and make me believe in myself again. I've registered to a forum just to ask for help and that shows how desperate I am I guess.... I really liked when someone asked for help to a different thread you replied to him with so much kindness. That made me register and ask for the same I guess.

Finally I would like to know how I can get approved to post my Clickbank product so you can promote it. I give 75% commision. Please take easy on me If something has been told before I am totally new here..

P.S: For those who think "a Greek guy... he steals our money and now asks for help" because of the events that's happening I want to tell you that no Greek has a wonderful life with your money, trust me. 90% of the families get paid around 300 euros or less a month and we are forced to pay 700 or more...
It's the Greek government that stole, not us, and we hate them as much as you do.

P.S2: Sorry for my bad English and for the long post. I had more to say but that would be tiring.

P.S3: If I can make some money I would like to know how much it costs for advertising.


Thanks again all of you.

Have a nice day.

I think the first thing you have to do is realize no country is perfect but to make the best of your own situation as you can. The forum has plenty of stickies up for all types of money making options you just have to find a twist on it. I know when I started I never even posted as I thought I needed to learn and read and write everything I thought was important on notepad and even a whiteboard. You will have some ppl flaming you for asking or telling you to use the search function, my thing is this, you seem to write well so why not try article writing first to just start off and not focus on making tons of money which in turn will lower the pressure of making a full time living. For example, try amazon, or cpa, or since your so passionate about your country then why not get a domain and write about it and put up adsense or alternatives. Sorry if its not specific but IM is really all about giving people what they want not necessarily what they always need. Wish you the best!

to do 7k a month on clickbank, it helps to get existing vendors to assist you.

but u cannot do it by just asking them to promote you without helping them 1st.

usually those doing $20k a month work in tight circles.

performers stick together.

u want to break into the group, try to promote them 1st as an affiliate.

win some prizes, be a top performer, then ask for some JV.

successful vendors know how to make products work on clickbank.

the ave clickbank vendor. they can do anywhere from $10,000 a month to $30,000

Write articles about Greece. Write about ancient Greece, modern Greece. Write for tourists. Where are the best places to visit, scams to watch out for? Food and of course, the Gr. Islands.

Use some books from the library to help you.

You do not have a portfolio, so you will have to offer clients a sample or two of your writing. $20.00 per article - 1000 -1200 words is a fair price since you have no resume'. Sell packages of 15 and 30 articles.

Write to websites and tell them you have content articles on Greece to sell.

quick replies

At sk8tavou : Yeah it does make me feel better. Exeis dikio file haha. Se efxaristw gia to reply

At Mrnewbie : You really think I am a good writer? I think my english suck haha. Well I guess I am obsessed with my country but with the bad way... I will take your opinion into consideration for sure. Thanks sir.

At Tuffy: Actually, I didn't ask for help, but maybe a bit of promotion that would benefit both of us (vendor and affiliate). That's why I use the highest % of commission available (75%). It would be stupid if I would just ask to promote me without them having a nice benefit too Of course, I agree 100% with you that there are "teams" and relationships across the products and If I want to get to the "big names" I must help them too. The problem is.. I am willing to help them but who will accept my help with my lost traffic blog? They are the ones that don't need me if you know what I mean. Again, i agree with you 100% and thanks for taking the time to reply!

At ardley216 : You lucky one! :P


P.S: I still can't reply to messages (just let you know to the guys that replied to me).

Can't thank you enough all of you. My brain works like a hard drive now saves all the info

"If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you can't, either way you're right!"

I think you can, you know you can, good Luck!

Originally Posted by scully

Write articles about Greece. Write about ancient Greece, modern Greece. Write for tourists. Where are the best places to visit, scams to watch out for? Food and of course, the Gr. Islands.

Use some books from the library to help you.

You do not have a portfolio, so you will have to offer clients a sample or two of your writing. $20.00 per article - 1000 -1200 words is a fair price since you have no resume'. Sell packages of 15 and 30 articles.

Write to websites and tell them you have content articles on Greece to sell.

Writing about Greece will not be my best choice cause even as a Greek my "dream" is to escape from Greece. We all know that if you do something that you don't like/love you will do it really slowly or bad.

But in hard times like these I will give it a try for sure. You never know what's gonna happen!

Originally Posted by starcity83

"If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you can't, either way you're right!"

I think you can, you know you can, good Luck!

You guys rock. Best forum ever (at least for me hehe). I guess it's time to use the "thanks" button

Keep the ideas coming guys!

I think, your English skills are good enough to charge $3 to $5 for a 500 word article. It's a good way to get started but it's important to move on to bigger things or else you would be stuck to it. Look around at digitalpoint forum and start a thread offering content writing services at $3 and once you gain good feedback, start charging higher rates.

"For a determined guy, there is no failure, only delayed victory"

Originally Posted by super11

I think, your English skills are good enough to charge $3 to $5 for a 500 word article. It's a good way to get started but it's important to move on to bigger things or else you would be stuck to it. Look around at digitalpoint forum and start a thread offering content writing services at $3 and once you gain good feedback, start charging higher rates.

"For a determined guy, there is no failure, only delayed victory"

Great idea. Could you please elaborate on how this is working? I mean.. I will offer content writing services for any subject? A subject that they need and they will tell me to talk about?

Sorry for my noobish question can you please tell me how this works? + thanked

You say you are into music? There is a music product on clickbank that converts like crazy. I make a few sales a week after making about 50 yahoo answers a few months ago.

^^^ That's about as close to a method you are going to get from me.

Originally Posted by psixanwmalos

Great idea. Could you please elaborate on how this is working? I mean.. I will offer content writing services for any subject? A subject that they need and they will tell me to talk about?

Sorry for my noobish question can you please tell me how this works? + thanked

You can offer content writing service on any subject. Just mention the subject you specialize on the thread itself. If you can write on all subjects, that would attract more clients.

Digital point is free to join and to post a service thread. Check the link below to see other people offering their content writing service. Read a few of them and you will get a better idea.

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/forumdisplay.php?f=102

Originally Posted by themidiman

You say you are into music? There is a music product on clickbank that converts like crazy. I make a few sales a week after making about 50 yahoo answers a few months ago.

^^^ That's about as close to a method you are going to get from me.

Yeah man I love music (rock/metal for me). My dream is to open a great studio and be able to produce an album that the its sound will be as good as the commercial albums! I know it's crazy but you never know

Yahoo answers aha... Thanks for the tip !

really useful super11. [Thanked again] visiting the link now!

If you want to promote your product,do some SEO or Buy from BST thread but again it needs money. Incase you want some quick cash for starting the SEO, try the torrent and CPA subsection in money making. You can Also do some WEB 2.0 for promoting your product.

Also dont give up dude, this is a forum that changed many guys life. Just be persistent and implement what you learn.

Luck and Best wishes
Neo

I have a tip for you.

Go download the trial for Market Samurai (google it)

When it asks you where you heard of it, select the 30 Day Challenge.

That will give you a 40 day trial.

Then, start looking for keywords! Go to the help section and read all the tutorials, watch the videos, etc...

Start looking for EMD's. (exact match domains, that match the keyword).

Promote clickbank product on EMD.

I make about 4K a month on Clickbank passively as an affiliate. Add me on Skype. username: njlpowell.

Please, NO ONE ELSE ADD ME BUT THE OP! If you want to add me, PM first. Thanks!

I added you mate. Thanks for the tip now I am watching the tutorials really appreciate it thank you

psihanomalos sou stelno to skype mou an thes na ta leme

Well just start trying everything until you find something that works then scale what works up and make money. Try CPA + Youtube/facebook it usually starts people off on their way to making some money to afford what you need to pay for your clickbank vendor fee. Or Just start off like an affiliate like most of us do and start learning from WSO's you find in the freebie sections of black hat sites like this one.

But if my mum saw this post she would say "quit yo jibba jabba get off your fat arse and do something about it" she is really intollerant to BS and Peoples self-analysis i couldnt even have a sick day at school -.-

Yeah I cant agree more! Some people (especially mothers) cant accept the fact that you can make some money from the internet. Especially here in Greece , they are afraid of Credit Cards lol!

They think that internet = games = time lost. But no there are clever ways to make money so why not try it??

P.S: guys I am feeling better and trying all of your options ty

as told before

a own product in clickbank is not the best way to start IM.

start with adsense because it is probably the most easy ... you will not make 7000 a month easy but a little bit and since 300$ extra would double your income you should go for that.
or you can start on fiverr with some small jobs. plenty or possibilitys if you have a lot of time.
Then you can always expand and try o get some extra money with self made products.

- Medium/Long term
Find something that you're passionate about (and can monetize; look around BHW for ideas), and create a site around that.

- Short term
To get you cash while you're building your online empire, look for work that you can do off-line in your local area. Some of the first self-employed jobs I got was doing general cleaning/cleaning cars/mowing lawns/DIY in my local area.

Finally, just remember that:

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Hi,

Am sorry to hear about your situation. As other members have suggested check the 'Make Money' section of the forum and ready through a couple of threads and try some of the methods. Remember don't try and copy the exact method here because more then likely it will have been used many times over, instead try and put your own little twist on it and see what you can, also PM and i might be able to help you out:-)

Don't feel depressed dude i don't hardly have much myself but i always pick myself up in the end. Always believe in yourself and stay positive no matter the situation you are in:-)

"No matter what, the most powerful thing in the world is the human mind, and prayer, and belief in yourself and confidence and perseverance. No matter how many times you do it, you do it again until it's right. Always believe in yourself and no matter who's around you that's being negative or thrusting negative energy at you, totally block it off. Because whatever you believe, you become. –And stay humble" Quote (Michael Jackson)

Although i would suggest u to write some articles but efforts to money ratio is very less ...... you jus cant beat the indians ...... they do it almost for free ..... lolx .... but still u can try ur luck ........ btw make a blog abt Greek mythology ......... i love it and they make so many games abt it too .... lolx