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    Default Any one make a living with clickbank without a list?

    Hi,
    I heard all the time that the money is on the list when people are talking about affiliate marketing.
    I just want to that how many guys here are making good money with clickbank without a list, say $100/day (for the minimum)?




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    Default Re: Any one make a living with clickbank without a list?

    Come on guys, is it real that no one can make good money without a list? I want someone to say I'm wrong here

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    Default Re: Any one make a living with clickbank without a list?

    Not everyone has a list or needs one. It depends on what you're trying to do. It does help but it's not required.

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    Default Re: Any one make a living with clickbank without a list?

    You gotta outsouce a lot of seo work or invest in ppc to make a living off clickbank.

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    Default Re: Any one make a living with clickbank without a list?

    Along side SEO and PPC, any other types of traffic work well with cb?

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    Default Re: Any one make a living with clickbank without a list?

    lists just squeeze more lifetime value out of each customer, but they're not absolutely necessary. you can easily make a profit by just making 1 sale per conversion, but some people see that as a lot of wasted traffic.
    lists just allow you to repeatedly upsell to all your opt-ins so you get the most you possibly can out of your traffic. the downside is it requires more work to maintain the interest of the list.
    lists are more of a long-term affiliate strategy. if you make yours big enough (like the ones the gurus have), then making money off of it becomes a cakewalk.

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    Default Re: Any one make a living with clickbank without a list?

    I do fairly well with a list of ZERO.
    No PPC.
    Just a website that I spend 2 hours a month with SEO.
    I can't stand getting all those emails from the gurus & wanna be's so I don't want others to suffer the same from me.

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    Default Re: Any one make a living with clickbank without a list?

    PinkPanther Same here no list and a few sites I do a few hours per month too sometimes and make decent $$$$

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    Default Re: Any one make a living with clickbank without a list?

    $100/day / $25 = 4 sales, so you need to get 4 sales a day, let's say the landing page converts at 1:50, you'd need 200 hops, that's like 10 visits/per hour/per day. Seems pretty possible to me.

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    Default Re: Any one make a living with clickbank without a list?

    i go with clickbank about 6 month ago. No list just PPC to landing pages. Get $17 only...

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    Default Re: Any one make a living with clickbank without a list?

    A list is important, as it converts good with proper management in interest groups.

    However its still not necessary, but helpful!!

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    Default Re: Any one make a living with clickbank without a list?

    It is not necessary to have a list to make money with clickbank. Just select a product and choose some good keywords. Make a landing page and start driving traffic writing articles,press releases and blog commenting etc. If you want to grow your business then you should consider having a list where you may blast your offers from time to time. It will help your business grow. But first you must know how to manage your list to make it responsive. I am making decent money with clickbank with and without a list.

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    Default Re: Any one make a living with clickbank without a list?

    Check out Jeff Johnson's product launch guide (it's free). You dont need a list and it can bring in some good money.

    You could also try article marketing and using linkwheels to a hub or squidoo with feeder blogs?

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    Default Re: Any one make a living with clickbank without a list?

    I do article marketing and no list, but I don't make a living off it!

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    Default Re: Any one make a living with clickbank without a list?

    No list here, will be looking to get one on my next launch though. I do pretty well myself...just drive the traffic and make conversions, and there's really no need for a list.

    Although, if Google decides to drop you, you don't have a lot to fall back on.

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    Default Re: Any one make a living with clickbank without a list?

    I'm an Apex Affiliate with CB (the last 2 years running) which means I'm in their top 1% of all affiliates.

    I am doing some list building off of the traffic I buy to drive to my CB offers, but I don't make the majority of my CB earnings because of my lists. My lists are gravy.

    I use Banners, Media Buys, PPC & PPV to drive my CB business.

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    Default Re: Any one make a living with clickbank without a list?

    Thanks guys, my best week was 3 sales and the worst is 0. I've just started with cb since May and my traffic is from organic SEO only (I got 2 checks paid so far). it's really strange that my landing pages just cannot move to the first page, they are stuck at page 2 and 3. People say I need to build more links and yes, I have been building links for them. What I have been doing about link building is:
    1. build web 2.0 blogs (around 20)
    2. use scrapebox to build links for the web 2.0
    3. post articles on goarticle.
    Is that enough or I need to do more? I heard people say don' t use scrapebox links direct to the money page, is that true?
    My keyword are not competitive, they are long tail and product keyword (+review in some case).

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    Default Re: Any one make a living with clickbank without a list?

    Youre just shooting yourself in the dick by not building a list as you grow as an affiliate. It makes no logical sense to me as to why someone would rather get one sale per person as opposed to selling the same person multiple items later down the road.

    Benefits of List Building:
    -unaffected by google algorithm changes/slaps
    -market to them over and over again
    -self liquidating

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    Default Re: Any one make a living with clickbank without a list?

    lists aren't absolutely necessary. However there are several niches where having a list would be profitable Weight loss, Internet marketing are prime examples

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadowfax View Post
    lists aren't absolutely necessary. However there are several niches where having a list would be profitable Weight loss, Internet marketing are prime examples
    lists arent necessary, but the question should really be "why WOULDNT you want to build a list?"

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    I OWN 5 PRODUCTS AND HAVE NO IDEA what a list is
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    Default Re: Any one make a living with clickbank without a list?

    Is there a reason why you aren't building a list?? Do you realise that you can get a free
    mail thing then add the code stuff to your website using copy and paste?

    Then it is just a matter of managing it. Easy!

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    Default Re: Any one make a living with clickbank without a list?

    Paypal Subscriptions pwn! are better then any stupid list people have. A list is to me is like a farm, with work, research, and time you could see some money come in. Its really a property worth money depending on many factors such as where the list was collected, how many emails there are, and is they are gmail hotmail, yahoo or some 3rd party email.

    That said i will stick with my paypal subscriptions.

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    Default Re: Any one make a living with clickbank without a list?

    I don't see any way to make a living off clickbank as an affiliate.
    As a vendor - Yes. But not as an affiliate.

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    Default Re: Any one make a living with clickbank without a list?

    hey i made about 700 $ from clickbank so far with 2 sites. i sold both 1 that made 496$ with 3000$ and the second where i made 4 sales toital of 200$ with 600$ so im prety happy with it. and the third of course who made me 33$ i sold it with 200$ now im looking for some new profitable niches!
    and i dont have no list and stuff. dont even know how to work with them yet. i would like to find out and start a list are lists for sale?? cheers and good luck to all
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    Default Re: Any one make a living with clickbank without a list?

    Of course you can make money without a list.

    However, if you don't rely on SEO and ranking websites, then your marketing should be done consistently and constantly otherwise there's no way out to make a living with clickbank.

    Article and video marketing can be profitable if done correctly.

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    Default Re: Any one make a living with clickbank without a list?

    any guy can be a live sample here?

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    Default Re: Any one make a living with clickbank without a list?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bross View Post
    I don't see any way to make a living off clickbank as an affiliate.
    As a vendor - Yes. But not as an affiliate.
    LOL! Being an affiliate for CB products is brain-numbingly easy once you get the essentials into place:

    1. Targeted traffic (free or paid)
    2. Pre-sales/opt-in page
    3. After opt-in, redirect to sales page.
    4. Killer autoresponder series. Give them value and sell to them (CB offers and related other offers) until they unsubscribe or die. When they die, sell them a casket.

    That's the basic formula. The fundamentals don't change. Pique curiousity, give them something for free, establish trust, make the sale.

    People make it so. damn. hard. It's not. Just get out there, establish that system, put your own spins and tweaks and bells and whistles on it until it's profitable. Rinse, repeat, etc.

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    less see

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    Default Re: Any one make a living with clickbank without a list?

    you do not need a list to make money with clickbank. That is no true

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    Quote Originally Posted by media500 View Post
    you do not need a list to make money with clickbank. That is no true
    What is not true? Do you need a list or not?

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    Default Re: Any one make a living with clickbank without a list?

    I don't have a list. But I do make a decent living from click bank.

    I have some sniper sites which are ranking high on google. And I am getting decent money out of it. I also write articles and submit it to ezine articles.

    But lately I have been thinking of building a list for long term business. And of course not to waste my traffic.

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    Default Re: Any one make a living with clickbank without a list?

    Are you direct linking or driving to review pages? Care to elaborate on what's working for you?

    Thanks

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    Default Re: Any one make a living with clickbank without a list?

    I'm making a steady $600+ weekly off CB, and have never once used a list.

    The only list I use is one with orders streaming down it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tvision10 View Post
    I'm making a steady $600+ weekly off CB, and have never once used a list.

    The only list I use is one with orders streaming down it..
    Would you mind to explain your fundamental strategies step by step?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tvision10 View Post
    I'm making a steady $600+ weekly off CB, and have never once used a list.

    The only list I use is one with orders streaming down it..
    Please can you explain ?
    thx

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    Default Re: Any one make a living with clickbank without a list?

    Maybe he's just got multiple sites n products on the go, it's not too hard if you build enough sites

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Hero View Post
    Would you mind to explain your fundamental strategies step by step?
    I have a thread based on my method.

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    Default Re: Any one make a living with clickbank without a list?

    I dont suggest making a living off clickbank.

    You need to have multiple streams of income.

    -WhiteHat
    -GreyHat
    -BlackHat

    Doing
    -Adsense
    -******* or LeadBolt
    -ClickBank
    -FreeLancing

    I like cpa offers over selling products.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CashFlowGuy View Post
    I dont suggest making a living off clickbank.

    You need to have multiple streams of income.

    -WhiteHat
    -GreyHat
    -BlackHat

    Doing
    -Adsense
    -******* or LeadBolt
    -ClickBank
    -FreeLancing

    I like cpa offers over selling products.

    While I do like that Leadbolt is on this list I want to add one more thing

    Click to Call ...

    THINK about it... all adverts/offers need to "monetize" at some point theres needs to be a transaction to get US/YOU paid. this is IMPOSSIBLE on the cell phone.

    As an affiliate i did big spends with Quattro, Millennial Media, Jumptap . It doesnt work because you cant get someone to buy something thru a phone easily
    what you CAN do
    is get them to call into a call center and get a rep to sell them for you

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    Default Re: Any one make a living with clickbank without a list?

    Lists are only as good as the subscribers therein. If you build a list to sell products to people who want to market online or are affiliate marketers, you're wasting your time. If, on the other hand, your lists consists of people interested in model airplanes or how to order tacos in Spanish, then a list could make you a lot of money. If you market to people who market, you're doomed unless you become someone like Chia, Joel Comm and other celebrity gurus like that, then you're probably fine. They're sheep herders. Build a list of people who have no clue about online marketing and I can almost guarantee that if you do it right, you will make money. You don't want "do-it-yourselvers" kind of subscribers. You want "Do the thinking for me" ones.
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