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I got an email from the author of the ebook I'm promoting
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"I've just been alerted to your lens. I'm happy to have you as an affiliate but you have broken several rules with this lens. You are writing it in the first person as if you wrote the e-book. You may not do that. You've basically extracted my entire sales page and put it on this lens and are deceiving the reader into thinking you wrote the book. Also, you can not have an order link that goes directly to my order page at Clickbank without my permission. As an affiliate, you can "pre-sell" the e-book with your lens and have a link to the "7 Day Free Report" only.
Yeah, I basically copied the sales letter and changed it a little bit. I'll change it some more to keep her happy.
I do have a link to the 7 Day Free Report on the lens.
But what about linking directly to the order page. I never thought there was a problem with doing that. Is she correct in telling me that I can't do that without her permission?
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Re: I got an email from the author of the ebook I'm promoting
She can set the rules any way she pleases, but if you're making sales the way you are, she really should just stfu and take the sales unless you're being SO bad that she's getting chargebacks (returns).
You've already got the lens built, so you've invested your time. Might as well just comply and move on to your next project. If the sales drop off, send her an email and offer to put it back the way it was.
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Re: I got an email from the author of the ebook I'm promoting
Tell her that you ll switch to her competitor, cause she's a bitch to deal with.
And don't promote her stuff anymore.
And yeah, in case you piss her off, she can contact clickbank staff and cut your commisions because you bypass her sales page and you infringe on her copyright trademark by copying her sales page.
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Re: I got an email from the author of the ebook I'm promoting
Tell her that you ll switch to her competitor, cause she's a bitch to deal with
I like that idea the best. I don't really want her going to Clickbank, because then they'll see the stuffing I doing!
I bypassed her sales page because it looks like sh*t.
I think she's just mad because her main page ranks 12th in G**gle and my lens ranks 4th for the same keyword. (I also own 5th-9th spots for the same keyword with videos and articles)
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Re: I got an email from the author of the ebook I'm promoting
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I bypassed her sales page because it looks like sh*t.
I think she's just mad because her main page ranks 12th in G**gle and my lens ranks 4th for the same keyword. (I also own 5th-9th spots for the same keyword with videos and articles)
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LOL, that's good. You are in position to bring her sales, you have better SEO skills and she's pissed??? LMAO
I second that motion: Tell her you'll go promote her competitor.
Let us know how it ends up.
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Re: I got an email from the author of the ebook I'm promoting
Become her competitor by promoting her competitor. Put your marketing efforts into a product where someone is actually thankful for your efforts rather than this douchebag.
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Re: I got an email from the author of the ebook I'm promoting
..what a bitch ... she should be happy about you promoting her stuff ... instead of the competitor ones. She one of the persons that just can not think 10 minutes further. :-D
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Re: I got an email from the author of the ebook I'm promoting
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I think she's just mad because her main page ranks 12th in G**gle and my lens ranks 4th for the same keyword. (I also own 5th-9th spots for the same keyword with videos and articles)
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Freakin hilarious! There are so many ungrateful people out there. You are bringing her sales and she should be happy yet she asks you to stop?!? What a moronic bitch!
Definitely start promoting her closest competitor and when she sees the sales plummet she'll be whining for you to start promoting again!
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Hahaha this is actually quite funny. She should be asking you for SEO lessons, not bitching about you owning her in the SERPS. :P
If I were her, I would be extremely grateful.
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Re: I got an email from the author of the ebook I'm promoting
tell her to f**** herself
- how does her salespage look like?
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Re: I got an email from the author of the ebook I'm promoting
She may be pissed off because she is building a list using your traffic. If you send the surfers directly to her sales page she loose the opportunity to steal your traffic into her List.
Now, if you rank well for her keyword and if she still bitches about it,
1. Update your lens saying Her product Sucks and
2. Promote her competitor.
By the way stuff some cookies so even if some of your surfers still decides to buy her product.
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Re: I got an email from the author of the ebook I'm promoting
Become her competitor. Make a product like hers (or El*ance it), so you can get more from your own efforts.
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Re: I got an email from the author of the ebook I'm promoting
Tell her collect her money and STFU
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She may be pissed off because she is building a list using your traffic. If you send the surfers directly to her sales page she loose the opportunity to steal your traffic into her List.
Now, if you rank well for her keyword and if she still bitches about it,
1. Update your lens saying Her product Sucks and
2. Promote her competitor.
By the way stuff some cookies so even if some of your surfers still decides to buy her product. 
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We have a winner. Neo rulez LOL!
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She may be pissed off because she is building a list using your traffic. If you send the surfers directly to her sales page she loose the opportunity to steal your traffic into her List.
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I'll guarantee this is exactly right. Who in their right mind would bitch about their own product out ranking their own product?  She should be praising you!
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Now, if you rank well for her keyword and if she still bitches about it,
1. Update your lens saying Her product Sucks and
2. Promote her competitor.
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Yeah... Because of her stupidity, she will lose sales (and opt-ins), and then be outranked by her competetors product. She'll be begging you to do whatever you want to do.
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Become her competitor. Make a product like hers (or El*ance it), so you can get more from your own efforts.
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She may be pissed off because she is building a list using your traffic. If you send the surfers directly to her sales page she loose the opportunity to steal your traffic into her List.
Now, if you rank well for her keyword and if she still bitches about it,
1. Update your lens saying Her product Sucks and
2. Promote her competitor.
By the way stuff some cookies so even if some of your surfers still decides to buy her product. 
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AHAh That sounds like a perfect plan right there
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Yeah rip her apart.
That's what you get for promoting EBOOKS....eewwww...
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08-15-2008, 12:41 AM
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Re: I got an email from the author of the ebook I'm promoting
tell her you will do as she asks, play nice until you get the money owed by cb, then become her competitor - and be nasty one at that
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She may be pissed off because she is building a list using your traffic. If you send the surfers directly to her sales page she loose the opportunity to steal your traffic into her List.
Now, if you rank well for her keyword and if she still bitches about it,
1. Update your lens saying Her product Sucks and
2. Promote her competitor.
By the way stuff some cookies so even if some of your surfers still decides to buy her product. 
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This is funny ! Haha.. This is cool !
Perhaps she will send another email to you, begging you to change back your lense to the original version that you are using now.
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Yeah, trash her product and push her competitor. Hell with a little persistence and time you can squeeze her off the top 10 entirely with your listings. Now that's sweet revenge.
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Re: I got an email from the author of the ebook I'm promoting
Ok, heres what you do. Change up your lens to read X Product is a Scam, buy (insert new product here instead), Switch all the pages you have good rankings for.
Send her an email back, and say "Thanks for the advice I made a few changes, I am seeing an increase in sales already. Oh by-the-way is this better?
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Ok, heres what you do. Change up your lens to read X Product is a Scam, buy (insert new product here instead), Switch all the pages you have good rankings for.
Send her an email back, and say "Thanks for the advice I made a few changes, I am seeing an increase in sales already. Oh by-the-way is this better?
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LOL... I believe this is the ultimate solution!!
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Re: I got an email from the author of the ebook I'm promoting
Be nice with her, until you get your Clickbank money. If she gets CB attention on your account they'll start to inspect all your transactions while suspending your account an money. So first protect you CB account.
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Ok, heres what you do. Change up your lens to read X Product is a Scam, buy (insert new product here instead), Switch all the pages you have good rankings for.
Send her an email back, and say "Thanks for the advice I made a few changes, I am seeing an increase in sales already. Oh by-the-way is this better?
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I love this solution, but she is probably too dumb to unnderstand the sarcasm.
I have to agree with CB - Just elance a copy of the book and become her competitor. After all, you have her beat in SEO and marketing, the only thing missing is a product.
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Re: I got an email from the author of the ebook I'm promoting
tell her that she knows how to write a good ebook (so your glad it's selling through your lens) but you know how to sell a good ebook so stfu and take the money.
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Become her competitor. Make a product like hers (or El*ance it), so you can get more from your own efforts.
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I was going to say this.
Just re-write her ebook, upload it to e-junkie and place the "buy now" links on your lens.
You will also have to re-write your lens a bit so that it does not look word-for-word to her sales page.
I am willing to bet that in a day or two, she will check up on you and see what you have done. That will burn her ass for sure.
So, definitely re-write the hell out of it!
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Aw man poor woman, I feel sorry for her, there is a lot more to be earned in the follow up after the customers are on the list which she is losing out on, I don't mind fucking over aff networks but not fellow marketers. I say offer your SEO services and move onto the next offer
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He's getting paid to market her e-book not build her list.
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Wow, some of you guys really have issues, lol! Why the fuck would you waste your precious god given time on this planet trashing some bitches eBook just because she was being a bitch about you not following the rules she set up?
Just accept her rules or stop marketing her product. No reason to waste time with that kind of vendictive teen angst tantrum shit. It's useless and kinda pathetic (no offense). Growz the fuck up.
Peace out.
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Bad spelling aside, I'd rather take her ebook, re-write it, start selling it on PayDotCom, and run the bitch out of business. More money, and it shows her that beggars can't be choosers.
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Well, if running other people out of business "to teach them a lesson" is what gives you kicks, then I guess that's what you gotta do. We all have our fetishes.
Concidering I'm in a state of sleep deprivation, and English is my third language, I think I did OK on the spelling.
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Re: I got an email from the author of the ebook I'm promoting
Tell her to stuff her product, If shes been alerted to your lens its proberly because a sale has been made, So why is she crying? She made a sale which gave her profit, If she carries on just switch to a product in the same niche and email her later letting her know how many sales you made for a competitor of her.
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Re: I got an email from the author of the ebook I'm promoting
I think she's just mad because her main page ranks 12th in G**gle and my lens ranks 4th for the same keyword. (I also own 5th-9th spots for the same keyword with videos and articles)
if you own the ranking, fuck her !! promote another product !!
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Re: I got an email from the author of the ebook I'm promoting
DITCH!
I hate vendors like that. A vendor should support his affiliates, they are doing the SALES and the fvcking work and promotion.
Ditch that Douche!
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Re: I got an email from the author of the ebook I'm promoting
Just redo her sales page to make it work for a win-win solution.
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Re: I got an email from the author of the ebook I'm promoting
Just to recap everything:
Get the same copy out on 100 more lenses.
Write there - Scam product.
Cookie stuff- Just in case you get sales.
Promote the competitors product.
And send her an email saying - How much you loved
to change the lenses as she wanted, despite giving
her sales and bringing her money.
Also ask her how does it look like ? Better than before?
LMAO...
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Ok, heres what you do. Change up your lens to read X Product is a Scam, buy (insert new product here instead), Switch all the pages you have good rankings for.
Send her an email back, and say "Thanks for the advice I made a few changes, I am seeing an increase in sales already. Oh by-the-way is this better?
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Lol, Great Idea, Do this!!
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yea, that's true, but tell her (especially if you've converted some already) that you'll take your grey area ethical practices to another author's books if she doesn't give you permission.
uptight assholes who actually give a shit about the landing page for sales deserve the flack, but people who act as if they're the author do too... it's not like you're going to give the support or respond the same as her, so she's just protecting her rep, but yea, the page thing is hers to set and she could complain to your affiliate (CB) and get you booted probably and removed from her promotion definitely.
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Just move on... if you can get into the first page of G beating her in ranking, it WILL be her loss if you decide not to promote her product anymore...
Promote other competitive product not based on revenge or hatred and you will then be able to do things objectively and therefore concentrate better on the most important thing - making loads of money!
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Ok, heres what you do. Change up your lens to read X Product is a Scam, buy (insert new product here instead), Switch all the pages you have good rankings for.
Send her an email back, and say "Thanks for the advice I made a few changes, I am seeing an increase in sales already. Oh by-the-way is this better?
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Yeah, I'm getting ticked off just reading about this chick. Screw her. I like the above idea but think you should be more subtle and I think that you might accidentally effect your rankings for that KW if you change the content and go into attack mode. She's obviously watching the SERPs so you don't need to respond to her for her to notice your response.
Instead, simply rewrite the sales page (only slightly, possibly change verb tenses and rearrange phrases - nothing else), keep the same focus on that keyword, and just change the link to a competitor. Also search paydotcom for a similar product. She'll notice the changes immediately and get the message (  ) no need to inform her directly or to bait her to complain to CB.
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Geez can't she just be happy you're doing the work for her? I pretty much agree with everyone in saying to promote a competing product.
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Re: I got an email from the author of the ebook I'm promoting
Sometimes there's no pleasing a vendor. I outranked a vendor for their own product line in the serps and they didn't seem to mind for about six months. All the while I'm sending them nice, juicy, highly targeted sales. Then I stupidly emailed them (basically asking them if they were ever going to pay me) and they pulled all kind of crap about how I wasn't allowed to outrank them! Even though I had written tons of wonderful, carefully crafted articles about their product, how it would improve people's lives, etc. and so on. I told them that everything I had been doing was in service to their brand and it brought them sales. Still they were jerks about it.
And after I stopped promoting them I never received the money due to me. This was a privately run affiliate program. I don't promote those anymore because sometimes it's a ma and pa store that is really uptight about branding control. I didn't do anything wrong, I brought them sales, and still they found a way to screw me.
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So long as you make me thousand of dollars monthly from my NEW sex ebook with no chargebacks going on CB VERY soon I dont give an alien abduction what you do.
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its probably because of the duped content
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02-05-2009, 03:00 AM
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Re: I got an email from the author of the ebook I'm promoting
Tell her this "You are so lucky that your product is not 'listed' on BHW"
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02-05-2009, 01:31 PM
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Re: I got an email from the author of the ebook I'm promoting
Authors or creator of the products usually like to get sells but dont like to give commission. The fact is here, not every visitor coming from a affiliate link buy instantly. They may take the purchase decision later and come back later to buy. On that time affiliate dont get any commission still he is the person who made the product renown.
This is the biggest advantage authors get from the affiliates. Anyway, she doesn't like your technique probably because u are making decent commission that she doesn't want to give.
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