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    Default BST rules - How To Post - Updated NO Sales thread bumping.

    Guidelines for Posting and Receiving Approval
    For Your BuySellServices Thread:


    1. You must have 100 or more quality posts.
    2. You must have Jr. VIP status.
    3. You must have been a forum member for 90 days or more.
    4. You must be free from infractions and bans.
    5. Your product/service must comply with all BHW rules, including but not limited to, no forums, no coaching, no illegal services. Check the rules before deciding on a thread.
    6. Your thread should include clear contact and refund policies.
    7. Your product and service must be of quality and priced reasonably. BHW staff will be the sole arbitors of this.
    8. You must have 10 or higher reputation.


    How To Submit A BuySellServices Thread

    If the above applies please complete the next set of steps:

    1. Create your thread, it will go into a moderation queue. You should keep a copy of the thread text and title. Make sure your thread is a final edit, write it in Word first.
    2. Send a PM to a one or more of the BHW staff, this should:
    3. Include a brief summary of your proposed product/service and the pricing at the top of the PM.
    4. Include the title used for your BST thread.
    5. Include the full text of your proposed BST thread.
    6. Include requirements, if any, for the moderator to review your service.
    7. NOT be sent to 'Moderators In Training'.
    8. It is required that a Moderator review your service, and it is expected that you provide the top level package or service if this is applicable. If you are unable to provide this, you are unable to service the large market that BHW provides.
    9. Wait patiently to hear back from the staff regarding your services thread, DO NOT send follow up PMs requesting the status of your thread.
    10. If your thread is approved pay a $20 listing fee via PayPal to payments@blackhatworld.com.



    Thread bumping - Don't do it.


    Donors and Jr. VIP members found to be Bumping their thread (deleting a post and then reposting it) will receive a temp ban, their BST thread will be removed PLUS they will not be allowed to post in the BST section in future.


    Why Was My BuySellServices Thread Denied?


    Having a services thread is a privilege, not a right, staff are under no obligation to approve any thread.

    If you do not receive a response from the staff after two weeks, assume that your thread has been denied. We do not discuss the reasons for denied threads, so don't PM asking, this will not get your thread approved.


    Useful Advice:

    Many of the moderators are available on BHW chat , should you need to discuss your services thread or its status, ask here. Be courteous though, as pestering the staff will result in your application being denied.


    Don't post if you are not a buyer.
    It's simple if you have never used a service you can't comment on how it works / how effective it is. We ask all thread creators to report any unreasonable posts to a mod where they will be reviewed. If you are found to be using this service unreasonably you will be banned.

    Don't request trials / review copies.
    The op will post the number of review / trial copies they are willing to give away, if any, and will provide the criteria they require to get a review / trial copy (often these are only for Jr. VIP accounts).

    Avoid being Scammed online.

    All of the staff hate to see members getting scammed and shitlist threads being opened. We all work very hard to protect members, deleting 100's of threads a day, and taking lots of time and care on sales/services threads that we allow through. We can only do so much to protect members though, so here are some really simple pointers to help you avoid being scammed.


    1. If a user doesn't have a BST/Services thread approved by a moderator - don't buy.
    2. Don't buy from anyone who started off by saying 'PM me for details', there is a reason they don't want to make their details public.
    3. If something seems too good to be true - it is.
    4. Exercise extreme caution when clicking on signature links where the poster doesn't have an approved BST.
    5. Always make sure your payment method can be reversed if the service/product provider flakes. Don't send as a PayPal personal payment, don't western union.
    6. Document and store ALL communications, including chat/IM logs
    7. Always Google for the sellers e-mail address and any other information, they may have scammed other forums.
    8. Stay away from threads/pm's/signatures that promote networks, do a search and due diligence before working with any network.
    9. Check sellers other posts and threads, check have others complained, and how previous customers have rated and reviewed them.
    10. Even if the user has an approved BST/Service thread, ensure that you check them out fully, sellers can provide excellent review copies and then become flaky.
    11. Always get full contact information - don't do your business via PM. It's too easy for internet users to drop off the board when things go pear shaped.
    12. Be VERY paranoid regarding dropshipping, double check all of the above points when considering a product seller.
    13. Avoid any JV's where the users require you pay before you receive your own payment. Consider the value of your own accounts, and the legality, and tax implications of letting someone send traffic to your accounts.
    14. Just because someone has status, a high post count, or a good reputation, does not guarantee that they will not turn rogue or resort to desperate measures, apply the above regardless of status on BHW.

    I welcome any other additions to these pointers, originally created by Zen19 and BigBuddy

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    Is there any way to get rid of infractions?

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    Default re: BST rules - How To Post - Updated NO Sales thread bumping.

    Same Rules again, I expected something Different

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    Never sure if I have an infraction or not? There is a mention of it on my profile...?

    Anyway, not planning any BST threads just yet
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    Default re: BST rules - How To Post - Updated NO Sales thread bumping.

    Hey Diamond,

    I hope you are reading this. I want to ask something :

    Can you please make the process of getting a thread approval faster somehow? I know people are waiting for months to get approved and that really kills the meaning of the BST section as it's supposed to bring us the latest products, not the few-months-at-least products.

    Thanks in advance We love you


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    Quote Originally Posted by davids355 View Post
    Never sure if I have an infraction or not? There is a mention of it on my profile...?

    Anyway, not planning any BST threads just yet
    If you don't see it near your name (Where your stats are; Thanked,thanks..etc) then you don't have any

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    Quote Originally Posted by WizIMS View Post
    Hey Diamond,

    I hope you are reading this. I want to ask something :

    Can you please make the process of getting a thread approval faster somehow? I know people are waiting for months to get approved and that really kills the meaning of the BST section as it's supposed to bring us the latest products, not the few-months-at-least products.

    Thanks in advance We love you
    It takes such long to approve the thread because there are lots of threads in queue. May be admin can do something to make it faster process.

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    Thanks for your support WizIMS we are working on a solution to this so BHW members get the greatest products first.


    Quote Originally Posted by WizIMS View Post
    Hey Diamond,

    I hope you are reading this. I want to ask something :

    Can you please make the process of getting a thread approval faster somehow? I know people are waiting for months to get approved and that really kills the meaning of the BST section as it's supposed to bring us the latest products, not the few-months-at-least products.

    Thanks in advance We love you

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    Quote Originally Posted by WizIMS View Post
    If you don't see it near your name (Where your stats are; Thanked,thanks..etc) then you don't have any
    There is a mention, but it says 1(0), take a look. But I think it's ok .
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    And btw I have submitted a few bsts and not heard back. But I think it's good that it's not easy to get listed - you can see that the available BSTs are normally very high quality which is a good thing
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    Infractions: 0/1 (3)

    I got one for spam I think.

    Is it possible to remove it? I plan to post a BST and upgrade to VIP soon.

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    is there any chance in infraction thing if person is enough reputed?
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    Default re: BST rules - How To Post - Updated NO Sales thread bumping.

    Diamond Damien,

    I think you should post more often.
    I think people would like to know more about you.

    and thanks for the guidelines.

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    I don't think your guys infractions count.. if you look at the top right of my post under "thanked" it shows my infractions there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ezkim0x View Post
    I don't think your guys infractions count.. if you look at the top right of my post under "thanked" it shows my infractions there.
    It does not show them to us. I think it only shows them to yourself. At least I can't see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkface View Post
    It does not show them to us. I think it only shows them to yourself. At least I can't see it.
    oh ok.. that's weird.

    yeah i can't see anybody that has an infraction but myself so must just show to you.

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    Yeah, you can only see your own.

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    everything is good expect "You must be free from infractions and bans."

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    I think with infractions, only the logged in user can see them...



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    There must be a way to remove the infractions...

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    I think you just have to wait for your infractions to expire.

    Thanks Damien.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mutatedllama View Post
    I think you just have to wait for your infractions to expire.

    Thanks Damien.
    Are they only temporary?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mutatedllama View Post
    I think you just have to wait for your infractions to expire.

    Thanks Damien.
    Quote Originally Posted by peterbruce View Post
    Are they only temporary?
    Some expire, some are just warnings, some will never expire or be removed. It's usually at the discretion of the staff member who gave it to you.


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    Thank you for the updated guidelines Damien! Plan on starting a new BST thread in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7878 View Post
    Some expire, some are just warnings, some will never expire or be removed. It's usually at the discretion of the staff member who gave it to you.
    Okay great. Thanks for clearing that up.

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    Default re: BST rules - How To Post - Updated NO Sales thread bumping.

    DD one suggestion that I have is to at least inform the person that the BST was not approved. No explanation need just a not approved message so they are not waiting months and then give up and starting those complaining threads. Just a simple "Thread Not Approved" would be enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ezkim0x View Post
    oh ok.. that's weird.

    yeah i can't see anybody that has an infraction but myself so must just show to you.

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    i dont see the infractions line on mine. guess i've been a good boy this year? 0=)

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    if the infraction is not to expire from a noobie mistake does this mean we can never offer services to bhw? I am trying to get in touch with someone to see how it can be removed I was a new user and made a mistake but feel harshly punished that it will never expire.

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    Same rules again huh..any how that would be help to our new members and I'm going to post another thread here..he he love this forum.

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    If your service gets denied and you improve it, is it then possible to re-apply?


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    If the threads are supposed to be staff approved, why do I see so many that are NOT approved?

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    I want to offer a service but I'm not jr Vip cant afford it right now.so as per new rule I will not be able to apply
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    Quote Originally Posted by Superpower View Post
    I want to offer a service but I'm not jr Vip cant afford it right now.so as per new rule I will not be able to apply

    What 'new rule'?

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    Does Jr. VIP come after Donor? So $97 and then how much more on top of that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by graphox View Post
    Does Jr. VIP come after Donor? So $97 and then how much more on top of that?

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    Default Re: BST rules - How To Post - Updated NO Sales thread bumping.

    just a suggestion
    BST poster can officially BUMP their thread like $xx/bump
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    Quote Originally Posted by mohitjmehta View Post
    just a suggestion
    BST poster can officially BUMP their thread like $xx/bump
    Thats a good idea Mohit , +1 for this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seo Lover View Post
    Thats a good idea Mohit , +1 for this
    We don't want a second warrior forum...

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    Default Re: BST rules - How To Post - Updated NO Sales thread bumping.

    Quote Originally Posted by Seo Lover View Post
    Thats a good idea Mohit , +1 for this
    wut? that's a fucking terrible idea, if people would stop being retards and played ball there would be no problem


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    thats terrible idea...

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    Thats a good idea Mohit , +1 for this
    I wish BHW should keep their own unique rules as they do now.
    No one would expect to see a second warrior forum

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    Quote Originally Posted by shravandude View Post
    I wish BHW should keep their own unique rules as they do now.
    No one would expect to see a second warrior forum
    Agreed. The rules as they are, are great.

    If you want to pay for bumps go to warrior forum, if you want free bumps go to wicked fire. And if you want to avoid unmoderated and untested services, go to BHW.

    I agree with the suggestion, that a simple "Not approved" notice in the case of thread denial be sent. So that the seller may know the status, and not wander and wait in the darkness.

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    All threads are staff approved since we started moding this section.

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