Originally Posted by Bloghat

technical question: What about very long links? My WP site has URLs like these most of the time (and even much longer):
homepage.com/get-the-hottest-software/microsoft-xp-validation

Should I instead submit links using the article ID? homepage.com/?p=868
They redirect to the long version...

I would suggest using long link if it has your keyword in it.
This is much better for SEO.
So as you see it depends on your situation.

Thanks extrawinner
Funny coincidence: I dedicate you my 100th post.
Last week I was just waiting for my 100th post to get a Jr. VIP membership, but then this thread got in the way - I spent the money on BH2.

btw. it is no problem for your service to work with very long links? I know dripable uses a shortener for anything that's longer then 80 characters.

Just purchased a spot! (#3RY12410Y7226241M) I am sure it will do great stuff for my keywords! 147$ for a month of linkbuilding is a fantastic deal!

I switched keywords for this week and last week the keyword was ranked 14 and as of today it is ranked 9...not bad for 2 days of work.

MY REVIEW

I came in on black hole seo 2 and my results after nearly two months

Domain was brand NEW!
Site had 0 backlinks (this is before joining btw)
Site had 0 onsite seo

Now the site is ranked on page three of google for a very high competive term and for the second term i selected its already on page 5

The site is in the lawyers/solicitors niche so you can understand its a competitive niche and trust me i selected the hardest terms i could think of for extrawinner. AND why NOT? I put him to the test but damn i wasnt expecting such results so soon i had tbh just left it with him and checked after being prompted by EW to check as I have been busy with offline stuff as well

I can only say keep up the good work EXTRAWINNER and reserve me another spot for another site but at a lower price lol

GUYS this seo works and if you are looking for a seo service for any kind of term then this is the one as EW and his team are up to scratch with their help and seo tactics

2 Weeks passed now using Blackhole 2.0. I've also been doing a couple Linkpushes and .EDU packages because this is a really competitive niche. I also rotated keywords week to week so there is a total of 4 keywords.

So far I've gone from invisible on google to 20,23 and 27 positions (the last keyword is let to get into top 100 but it won't be far off!)

With a couple more weeks I should be onto the first page!

Bart, Will you be providing any guides, help to optimize our site for your services? Like, Seo optimized contents, linking structure, title, headers, etc? My site is 4 months old and I had my main keyword in 10th and sometimes in the 11th position. How do we break this to push it to a better position?

how fast should i expect results? And what kind of results should i expect for " cash gifting" a very nichey page?

CDS -- i cannot get pm's

Hi EW,

I sent you pm before this regarding the registration issue....and also submit ticket support # 1214

Please check

10/4 - rankings were:

keyword1: #28
keyword2: #44

10/10 - rankings were:

keyword1: #25
keyword2: #29

10/14 - rankings were:

keyword1: #21
keyword2: #21


11/02 - rankings are:

keyword1: #18
keyword2: #21

not too much movement after 2 and a half weeks... any ideas EW?

btw, im trying to order another spot but can only use debit/credit for this, can you make arrangements for it please? (paypal isn't letting me use any cards unless I use my account).

Originally Posted by ramtripper

10/4 - rankings were:

keyword1: #28
keyword2: #44

10/10 - rankings were:

keyword1: #25
keyword2: #29

10/14 - rankings were:

keyword1: #21
keyword2: #21


11/02 - rankings are:

keyword1: #18
keyword2: #21

not too much movement after 2 and a half weeks... any ideas EW?

btw, im trying to order another spot but can only use debit/credit for this, can you make arrangements for it please? (paypal isn't letting me use any cards unless I use my account).

Just a tip: you can always use ( if you haven't got that card added to paypal ) by changing your original paypal email to something different.

Hope that makes sense

Thanks

Looking to order
Are all spots filled for now? Can't seem to fill cart in support center

Originally Posted by Bulger

Just a tip: you can always use ( if you haven't got that card added to paypal ) by changing your original paypal email to something different.

Hope that makes sense

Thanks

yea i know, but for some reason they're still blocking it, and another 5 cards i tried (not even mine)... never liked PP honestly, but whatever. still waiting on u EW

keyword i targetted for 2 weeks in black hole 2 has moved from page 8 to page 5, any tips for it to get higher? the keyword according to google as 246,000 global monthly searches

Originally Posted by dallsop

keyword i targetted for 2 weeks in black hole 2 has moved from page 8 to page 5, any tips for it to get higher? the keyword according to google as 246,000 global monthly searches

have you done your onpage seo? do you have plenty of content on your site and are you adding more consistently? give it time. If you've moved 30 spots so far..it should keep moving up if you are doing the right things.

yep on page is ok h1, bold etc etc unique content, suppose i'll give it some more time, wonder if my site is pandorised

Jumped 50 spots from yesterday on a keyword :>

ranked 28th..

Just grabbed a spot - looks promising:

0EA24705B0827574J

Ok I'm in.....Let's see if I get some results

9TM385756W7721459

Originally Posted by Bloghat

Thanks extrawinner
Funny coincidence: I dedicate you my 100th post.
Last week I was just waiting for my 100th post to get a Jr. VIP membership, but then this thread got in the way - I spent the money on BH2.

btw. it is no problem for your service to work with very long links? I know dripable uses a shortener for anything that's longer then 80 characters.

Thank you for your 100th post
As of now we didn't reported problems with long links - you can try and if any problem arises - I will let you know.

Originally Posted by dannistone

Just purchased a spot! (#3RY12410Y7226241M) I am sure it will do great stuff for my keywords! 147$ for a month of linkbuilding is a fantastic deal!

Thank you, and welcome!

Originally Posted by dspiel

I switched keywords for this week and last week the keyword was ranked 14 and as of today it is ranked 9...not bad for 2 days of work.

Great news!

Originally Posted by shaks99

MY REVIEW

I came in on black hole seo 2 and my results after nearly two months

Domain was brand NEW!
Site had 0 backlinks (this is before joining btw)
Site had 0 onsite seo

Now the site is ranked on page three of google for a very high competive term and for the second term i selected its already on page 5

The site is in the lawyers/solicitors niche so you can understand its a competitive niche and trust me i selected the hardest terms i could think of for extrawinner. AND why NOT? I put him to the test but damn i wasnt expecting such results so soon i had tbh just left it with him and checked after being prompted by EW to check as I have been busy with offline stuff as well

I can only say keep up the good work EXTRAWINNER and reserve me another spot for another site but at a lower price lol

GUYS this seo works and if you are looking for a seo service for any kind of term then this is the one as EW and his team are up to scratch with their help and seo tactics

Thank you Shaks for great review.
I am happy to see your keywords going up!

Originally Posted by Dr_Scythe

2 Weeks passed now using Blackhole 2.0. I've also been doing a couple Linkpushes and .EDU packages because this is a really competitive niche. I also rotated keywords week to week so there is a total of 4 keywords.

So far I've gone from invisible on google to 20,23 and 27 positions (the last keyword is let to get into top 100 but it won't be far off!)

With a couple more weeks I should be onto the first page!

Great news you bring here
Link pushes are really good to support this for tougher keywords.

Thank you!

Originally Posted by pangolin123

Bart, Will you be providing any guides, help to optimize our site for your services? Like, Seo optimized contents, linking structure, title, headers, etc? My site is 4 months old and I had my main keyword in 10th and sometimes in the 11th position. How do we break this to push it to a better position?

There will be some in future.
Just look for service update today where I will post more info.
Also I am this >..< close to opening new onsite optimization and penalty avoidance thread here on BHW with guidance.

Originally Posted by chrysalis

how fast should i expect results? And what kind of results should i expect for " cash gifting" a very nichey page?

CDS -- i cannot get pm's

Hi Chrysalis - we cannot guarantee rankings.
Your keyword seems to be very competitive, and you would need do some tests. Try to run AMR blast and .edu backlinks and based on that see if any ranking jump occurs - if it does, this service is for you.

Originally Posted by Toufu

Hi EW,

I sent you pm before this regarding the registration issue....and also submit ticket support # 1214

Please check

This should be fixed for you now

Originally Posted by ramtripper

10/4 - rankings were:

keyword1: #28
keyword2: #44

10/10 - rankings were:

keyword1: #25
keyword2: #29

10/14 - rankings were:

keyword1: #21
keyword2: #21


11/02 - rankings are:

keyword1: #18
keyword2: #21

not too much movement after 2 and a half weeks... any ideas EW?

btw, im trying to order another spot but can only use debit/credit for this, can you make arrangements for it please? (paypal isn't letting me use any cards unless I use my account).

I am suggesting onsite optimization, and changing keywords for 1-2 weeks.
Using same keywords for long time can get you in freeze zone where no movement will be noticed for 1-2 weeks.

Originally Posted by Icash42

Looking to order
Are all spots filled for now? Can't seem to fill cart in support center

We had filled them, but I re-opened it.

Originally Posted by ramtripper

yea i know, but for some reason they're still blocking it, and another 5 cards i tried (not even mine)... never liked PP honestly, but whatever. still waiting on u EW

I will get to you now.
Something strange going on - hopefully we will resolve this.

Originally Posted by dallsop

keyword i targetted for 2 weeks in black hole 2 has moved from page 8 to page 5, any tips for it to get higher? the keyword according to google as 246,000 global monthly searches

Is this exact or broad? Also - do you have any good onsite optimization?
Onsite optimization is crucial for ranking high.

Originally Posted by dspiel

have you done your onpage seo? do you have plenty of content on your site and are you adding more consistently? give it time. If you've moved 30 spots so far..it should keep moving up if you are doing the right things.

Originally Posted by dallsop

yep on page is ok h1, bold etc etc unique content, suppose i'll give it some more time, wonder if my site is pandorised

Let me know maybe next week and I will have a look.

Originally Posted by dspiel

Jumped 50 spots from yesterday on a keyword :>

ranked 28th..

Great news!

Originally Posted by Winchester

Just grabbed a spot - looks promising:

0EA24705B0827574J

Welcome

Originally Posted by bufandas

Ok I'm in.....Let's see if I get some results

9TM385756W7721459

Welcome

Sales are closed for another 6 hours due to huge update rolling in. Thank you all for patience and support, and stay tuned for good news!

I just tried to buy at 147 and it was 197 when added to the cart. Guess I didn't make it in time. I thought about it too long. I will check it out again in January.

Originally Posted by No Hat

I just tried to buy at 147 and it was 197 when added to the cart. Guess I didn't make it in time. I thought about it too long. I will check it out again in January.

Yes, the price from now on will be $197 and it will come with Premium Member status - information about the Premium Member status will be available within an hour.
Also - $50/mo difference is not much comparing to other services charging similar amounts per blast, not for 4-5 submissions in a month.

submit ticket support # 1234 Please check

If you miss out on this service you are seriously short changing yourself.
ExtraWinner has the best service on BHW.
Don't cry about the price it is well worth it.
Here are some results for my website.

10/4 Rankings
Keyword1: #10
Keyword2: #179
Keyword3: #61
Keyword4 #82


11/4
Keyword1: #7
Keyword2: #18
Keyword3: #8
Keyword4: #12

The bottom line is this service rocks.
I missed it the first time but not this time.
Thanks EW for such a awesome service.

Thanks,
BlackHatBaller

P.S. For all on the edge about taking the plunge and getting this service I also experienced some of my other main keywords jump to the #1 and #3 spots without even targeting them. This is just a result of BH 2.0 hitting my site. This simply works and produces results.

Originally Posted by ExtraWinner

Sales are closed for another 6 hours due to huge update rolling in. Thank you all for patience and support, and stay tuned for good news!

Waiting for the news as I am testing this service, I have some faith that this will work. Show us the links! (show me the money) lol

Originally Posted by chipmunk951

Cool. Forgot to add, trying this out on a site I left in the dust temporarily while I work on more important projects!

Before EW Service Rankings are:
1st KW : Broad Match : 15 Exact Match: 6
2nd KW : Broad Match : 78 Exact Match : Over 9000

Looking Forward!

Used two of my weeks on these KW's so far.

1st KW : Broad Match : 14(-1) Exact Match: 6 (no change)
2nd KW : Broad Match : 67(-11) Exact Match : 12

Originally Posted by weixinmingde

submit ticket support # 1234 Please check

Answered, do let me know if you have further questions.

Originally Posted by blackhatballer

If you miss out on this service you are seriously short changing yourself.
ExtraWinner has the best service on BHW.
Don't cry about the price it is well worth it.
Here are some results for my website.

10/4 Rankings
Keyword1: #10
Keyword2: #179
Keyword3: #61
Keyword4 #82


11/4
Keyword1: #7
Keyword2: #18
Keyword3: #8
Keyword4: #12

The bottom line is this service rocks.
I missed it the first time but not this time.
Thanks EW for such a awesome service.

Thanks,
BlackHatBaller

P.S. For all on the edge about taking the plunge and getting this service I also experienced some of my other main keywords jump to the #1 and #3 spots without even targeting them. This is just a result of BH 2.0 hitting my site. This simply works and produces results.

Thank you for great review.
We are doing our best to move your site to top!

Originally Posted by Guaji

Waiting for the news as I am testing this service, I have some faith that this will work. Show us the links! (show me the money) lol

I will update below

Originally Posted by chipmunk951

Used two of my weeks on these KW's so far.

1st KW : Broad Match : 14(-1) Exact Match: 6 (no change)
2nd KW : Broad Match : 67(-11) Exact Match : 12

Hi.
This looks not bad, but I would like to see faster results.
Drop me PM with your url and I will look whats keeping you away from top10.
EW

BH 2.0 UPDATE

We are glad to announce following updates to BH 2.0:

Article Marketing Submission - within next week we are changing our list, and now aim at 250+ live links instead of 150+

Wiki Backlinks - huge changes coming here, follow up will be posted within 1-2 days on what this changes will include.

Link Pyramid - as most of you noticed already, this week we finished moving completely over to Senuke, and thus providing higher quality properties and bigger diversity.

Rank Tracking - from next week with your weekly reports you will receive Rank Tracker report!


Following changes are made to future customers:

-All future customers (taking on $197 package) will receive Premium Member status including:

*Premium support ticketing, including Onsite Optimization help (with reporting), and SEO support (Q&A, event support, ranking consulting)
You can request SEO help, ask questions, or request onsite optimization report done by our trained staff (fair share policy)
*Guarantee of availability (once Network is closed Premium members will be able to still order as priority)
*Free KeywordKick.com membership to 300+ high paying, low competition keywords delivered each week.
*FREE bi-weekly SEO report - news, tests and suggestions delivered by experienced group of SEO specialists - fresh topics and results from our private testing network, and insight on our massive Social SEO tests. Uniquely offered only to Premium Members.
*SOON TO BE ADDED - open to all Premium Members Q&A section, where all SEO questions will be answered, suggestions discussed, and secrets posted.

If you are existing member, and you would like to take advantage of these features, simply go to order page, and add Premium Member package for only $50/month (limited to only 50 members - first come, first serve).

All new members that will sign up for our regular price - $197 will receive this status completely for free.




Future updates scheduled for next 3 weeks:

-adding new "Social Task" - based on our research of social SEO (this will be HOT)
-adding extra Ebook - Secrets of Tomorrow SEO - to all Premium Members
-adding for all members Ebook about making most out of this service, and about how to achieve fast rankings
*More to be announced*


Network Status:

We are booked in 75%, and we will be closing probably in 2-3 weeks.
Once we reach 100% - priority of ordering will be to our existing customers.
Comparing to other services, and calculating that our service saves you around $1.000 if you would do it yourself (in tools, captchas, hosting, memberships) or with going with different provider (charging same fee per just 1 submission, or $300-500 per month) you are better off joining us before we will close this down!

Originally Posted by ExtraWinner

Hi.
This looks not bad, but I would like to see faster results.
Drop me PM with your url and I will look whats keeping you away from top10.
EW

THanks a lot! PM'd!

Originally Posted by chipmunk951

THanks a lot! PM'd!

Working on it



All orders have been approved.

This looks great, and I signed up for it

When can we expect to have access to all of this?

My rankings so far:

Start
Keyword 1 87
Keyword 2 142

Week 1
Keyword 1 63
keyword 2 139

week 2
keyword 1 0
keyword 2 132

week 3
keyword 1 0
keyword 2 109


Seeing that my first keywrod dissapeared after week 2 I changed the URL as suggested to other users who seemed to get their rankings stuck, but no change still nowhere to be found.

Could you have a look?

Also, I signed up for the Premium membership. How do we go about using the Premium services?

Originally Posted by Dr_Scythe

2 Weeks passed now using Blackhole 2.0. I've also been doing a couple Linkpushes and .EDU packages because this is a really competitive niche. I also rotated keywords week to week so there is a total of 4 keywords.

So far I've gone from invisible on google to 20,23 and 27 positions (the last keyword is let to get into top 100 but it won't be far off!)

With a couple more weeks I should be onto the first page!

Another week on comes another improvement.

I'm now 11, 12, 18 and 41 for my 4 main keywords!

And my analytics data is showing +100% increase in traffic over last month!

Should hopefully be hitting the top ten next week!!

Hi im interested in purchasing your services, i sent you a PM with my questions. please respond when you can

thanks

Originally Posted by sre94

This looks great, and I signed up for it

When can we expect to have access to all of this?

I will be sending PMs within 24 hours to all Premium members.
Thank you for support.

Originally Posted by vulzala

My rankings so far:

Start
Keyword 1 87
Keyword 2 142

Week 1
Keyword 1 63
keyword 2 139

week 2
keyword 1 0
keyword 2 132

week 3
keyword 1 0
keyword 2 109


Seeing that my first keywrod dissapeared after week 2 I changed the URL as suggested to other users who seemed to get their rankings stuck, but no change still nowhere to be found.

Could you have a look?

Also, I signed up for the Premium membership. How do we go about using the Premium services?

I will be checking it now.

Originally Posted by Dr_Scythe

Another week on comes another improvement.

I'm now 11, 12, 18 and 41 for my 4 main keywords!

And my analytics data is showing +100% increase in traffic over last month!

Should hopefully be hitting the top ten next week!!

Great news!

Originally Posted by Mokai

Hi im interested in purchasing your services, i sent you a PM with my questions. please respond when you can

thanks

I will go through PMs now.


Hi guys, I am going through all tickets/PMs now.
Thank you for patience.
I will try to post some updates in few hours too.

EW

We have only 47 spots left!

I m very interested in this. If I order now still a chance to get started right away ? And for 1 month means 1 month from the day you start I assume not calender month right?
I am trying to rank a site (currently #13) for a keyword with 60k exact global searches and competition is pretty tough id say. Wondering if the service could get it on the first page within a month..
How often do you send the report(once a week form what I understand)

Do you offer any guarantee in serp movement? Not specific rankings but that it will definitely improve after a month of promotion?
Oh and if I have one package can I add more later even if you decide to close?
thx

Originally Posted by neu009

I m very interested in this. If I order now still a chance to get started right away ? And for 1 month means 1 month from the day you start I assume not calender month right?
I am trying to rank a site (currently #13) for a keyword with 60k exact global searches and competition is pretty tough id say. Wondering if the service could get it on the first page within a month..
How often do you send the report(once a week form what I understand)

Do you offer any guarantee in serp movement? Not specific rankings but that it will definitely improve after a month of promotion?
Oh and if I have one package can I add more later even if you decide to close?
thx

No one can "guarantee" SERP movement, it's not in their control. In saying that I would be VERY surprised if after a month of using blackhole your site hadn't moved up significantly as almost every other user is reporting great results

well maybe I should have worded it differently. I know there are no guarantees but some other service I read about here in the service section did provide another free month if there are NO improvements at all. SO basically thats what I am asking for

Hey neu009 I don't think you will have a problem getting some improvement in you rankings with this service. I have tried a lot of services up here on BHW and they have helped my rankings. But this service absolutely did the best for me I have not seen any move my site like this service from EW. My website is on the 2nd page for a very competitive keyword with 49,500 exact searches a month and it just jumped up 4 more positions today. I have to say Bart service is fierce and is tearing through the competition. This service is the best money I have ever spent on any of my marketing services. This service is a keeper for all of my websites from here on out. Just get his service and go on a nice


Enjoy,
BlackHatBaller

Here is my review of the service so far (based on "standard" services initially provided)....

- Full Link Pyramid
- 125 High PR Manual Bookmarks
- Submission to 5 private blog networks (drip feeding over few weeks)
- Article Submission Robot (AMR) submission (minimum 100 live links instantly, more to come)
- Manual Link Wheel of 25 PR4+ Angela style properties
- 100 life Wiki links


- Full Link Pyramid
Provided as a zip file named as BHW username & date. Zip contained 5 csv files named forum profile 1&2, social bookmarking 1&2 and social network1

• csv file basic; no info regarding package
• provided as forum links > social book marks > 22 social pages > moneysite
• looked random & good quality

My unfortunate issue with this was that my anchor text was not spun correctly & the result was mis-formated, incorrect anchor text with {|} all over the place. Not good. Hopefully this was an isolated incident.


- 125 High PR Manual Bookmarks
Provided as an excel file. Name did not give clue as to contents.

• over-delivery of about 15 bookmarks
• nicely presented excel sheet containing the campaign details and clearly titled as the social bookmarking file
• bookmark description not spun.

- Submission to 5 private blog networks (drip feeding over few weeks)
Provides as zip-file named as BHW username. Name did not give clue as to contents.

• file contained 5 numbered jpeg files
• no clue as to what networks used
• articles unique
• again hard to rate as not much info given other than a screenshot of some text

- Article Submission Robot (AMR) submission (minimum 100 live links instantly, more to come)

I could not see this report

- Manual Link Wheel of 25 PR4+ Angela style properties
Provided as excel file named as linkwheel, keyword & date

• nicely presented excel sheet containing the campaign details and clearly titled as the profile link wheel
• very handy formatting & logically provided information
• 26 spokes

- 100 life Wiki links
Provided as a text file. Name did not give clue as to contents.

• appeared to be an over-delivery (although I could not access many of the links, most urls ended in a username or signup & many gave 403 error).
• appeared to be quite a lot of .gov / .edu domains
• content was spun
• very difficult to rate this as could not access most of the links (am I doing something wrong?)

- Customer Service

I had 2 major issues with my service; (1) the unspun anchor in the entire link pyramid and (2) I did not seem to have the article submission report. I completed a support request on the 3rd (Thursday) and received a reply on the same day saying that the quality team had been notified & as soon as they heard back they would notify me...today is Tuesday 8th and no reply.

OVERALL

I think this service has awesome potential & if my issues had not occurred then I would be extremely happy and my only suggestion would be to try and formalize the reporting format (eg file names) and I would have asked about the wiki links

Obviously I have a few concerns about quality control; missing spintax on all links does not look good & a missing module does not say much about quality control (formalising report formats & file names would help this). And I feel customer support needs to be much faster (although this, again, could be due to "quality control" as my initial response - which told me they were waiting for quality control - was very fast).

So a few easy-to-fix issues to be sorted...but I seriously love the diversity of this service & hope it will become my hands-free SEO magic bullet!