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Old 07-08-2009, 08:32 PM
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Default Tax question on getting paid under the table

I'm thinking about working for a cam whore AFN that my buddy is a member. I'm very confident I'd be able to earn $1k+ a week. But I'm a little concerned about that way the money is paid out.

Earnings are payed out via paypal for "services". I get the impression that I'm not supposed to say anything about taxes. Is there anyway to pay taxes on what I earn without brings the AFN into all this?
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Old 07-08-2009, 08:34 PM
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Default Re: Tax question on getting paid under the table

just withdraw and keep your mouth shut
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Old 07-08-2009, 08:34 PM
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Default Re: Tax question on getting paid under the table

Why would you want to pay taxes if you don't have to?

I try to do as much $$ as possible to my paypal and withdraw my ATM limit in cash so I can cut back on taxes.

Note to IRS: I swear I am only worth $8.5K a year...
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Old 07-08-2009, 08:41 PM
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Default Re: Tax question on getting paid under the table

And that has been working out fine for you guys? Do you make anything over the table?
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Old 07-08-2009, 08:46 PM
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Default Re: Tax question on getting paid under the table

we too gangsta to read......... much less pay taxes. (complicated yo) lol
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Old 07-08-2009, 08:54 PM
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Default Re: Tax question on getting paid under the table

Okay but what if I still wanted to pay taxes on it could I?
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Old 07-08-2009, 09:06 PM
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Default Re: Tax question on getting paid under the table

give me the money and ill pay the taxes for u.... aha

i still dont get why u WANT to throw your money away..


my question: If I change my payment type from check to Paypal, does that change how much taxes I have to pay??????
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Old 07-08-2009, 09:10 PM
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Default Re: Tax question on getting paid under the table

Yes, you can still pay taxes if you wanted to but you do not have to yet. A few months ago I've talked to PayPal and they said that their money processing still isn't government controlled so it is totally up to you if you are going to report it or not.


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Old 07-08-2009, 09:14 PM
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Yes, you can still pay taxes if you wanted to but you do not have to yet. A few months ago I've talked to PayPal and they said that their money processing still isn't government controlled so it is totally up to you if you are going to report it or not.
Thanks for the help! Do you know if I could pay taxes on it without bringing the AFN into it? Also, can I pay taxes on just some of it?
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Default Re: Tax question on getting paid under the table

Just make sure they arent gonna send you a 1099 at the end of the year. If they do that means its being reported to the IRS.

By "they" I mean the place you are working for, not paypal, sorry
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Old 07-08-2009, 11:27 PM
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WTF?? other than adriver38 you guys are all off base. Paypal couldn't give a fuck all about the money you make but the OP better be damned sure that the network he's making money with will absolutely send him AND the irs a 1099 at years end. anything over $600 a year is reported by the people paying you. You will not be able to "hide" shit.
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Default Re: Tax question on getting paid under the table

exactly, you will get a 1099 from your network which means PAY YOUR TAXES!!

Now if you are selling ebooks on dp, the government does not have their fingers in them yet but did read they were trying to view transactions. I am sure it will come under money laundering/terrorist funding bill, and oh by the way we will cross referance for taxes.
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Default Re: Tax question on getting paid under the table

Gotcha. That's the thing, I think I'd sleep better at night knowing that I paid my taxes. Okay, lets just say that network DOESN"T send a 1099 at the end of the year, what then?
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Default Re: Tax question on getting paid under the table

Yes, that is true. I thought that his friend is a member of the aff. site and that his friend will send him his part via paypal.

But yes if you personally are a member of the affiliate network you will have to report it.



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WTF?? other than adriver38 you guys are all off base. Paypal couldn't give a fuck all about the money you make but the OP better be damned sure that the network he's making money with will absolutely send him AND the irs a 1099 at years end. anything over $600 a year is reported by the people paying you. You will not be able to "hide" shit.
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Gotcha. That's the thing, I think I'd sleep better at night knowing that I paid my taxes. Okay, lets just say that network DOESN"T send a 1099 at the end of the year, what then?
You can file and pay taxes on it. Depending what form you file, you should have an option for misc. income ad it there, you do not need to prove it.
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Default Re: Tax question on getting paid under the table

Everything should be reported. I know MANY people around my area that used to do good volume through Paypal and never reported. Now, they are all contacting accountants because the IRS found out. Paypal IS reporting to the IRS.
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Default Re: Tax question on getting paid under the table

Pretty sure too that if you have a checking account in the US (no idea about offshore) if the amount is over $9999.00 at any point in time it gets reported by your bank to the IRS as well. So reguardless if paypal reports it, or you do or dont get a 1099, unless you get paid cash and hide it in a safe underground the IRS KNOWS you are making money and wants their cut. Better safe than sorry, even though paying income taxes really makes me stabby.
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Old 07-09-2009, 09:21 PM
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Everything should be reported. I know MANY people around my area that used to do good volume through Paypal and never reported. Now, they are all contacting accountants because the IRS found out. Paypal IS reporting to the IRS.
Considering my paypal account uses a nickname and has no social security number tied to it I highly doubt that PayPal is reporting me to the IRS. They aren't a bank, it is a bit different.
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Considering my paypal account uses a nickname and has no social security number tied to it I highly doubt that PayPal is reporting me to the IRS. They aren't a bank, it is a bit different.
If that's the case, then your asking for a bigger shit storm.
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Default Re: Tax question on getting paid under the table

This is a fight you won't win. Just bite the bullet and pay your taxes. You might get away with it for years, but when they catch up to you you're gonna be hurting.
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Old 07-09-2009, 09:43 PM
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If that's the case, then your asking for a bigger shit storm.
Dude, you don't have to give them your SSN. You do if you want certain features like more than 3 bank transfers a month. PayPal is NOT even close to a bank, it is a money transferring service, they don't report crap because the don't have to.
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Default Re: Tax question on getting paid under the table

They will Catch up with you, It may take a while but if you really start to make bank they will. I know people that got yanked in because they were not reporting tips when they were parking cars. Pay the taxes. If your not 1099'ed then understate it a bit and call it misc income. Just stay under the radar.
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First, I think the OP is smart for wanting to pay taxes on his income, whether or not the IRS has a record of said income.

Second there are lots of reasons for paying taxes on your income, even if you obtain it through shady or illegal means. What did they eventually convict Al Capone of? Tax evasion. It didn't matter to that he was a gangster --- if he had only given the government its cut, they wouldn't have been able to nail anything on him.

I know of drug dealers and illegal immigrants who pay income taxes. Some illegal immigrants even pay Social Security taxes.

Talk to a couple of tax accountants and figure out how to deal with this. The IRS can and will mess you up worse than the justice system, so it's best to CYA when you're dealing with them.
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so how the heck do you file taxes on fake acconts?
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so how the heck do you file taxes on fake acconts?
I am NOT a tax advisor ... but with a quick look at the 1040 form I would say either put the income on line 12, business income, and fill out Schedule C, or enter it on line 21, other income.

Talk to a professional for the definitive answer. I pay my tax preparer $200 a year and ask him to do one thing --- make sure I'm not breaking any tax laws.

The IRS does not care how you make your money; they only want to get their cut.
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Default Re: Tax question on getting paid under the table

so, does anyone else pay taxes on their fake accounts?

what if your accounts are located in a different country? either US or CA.
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Default Re: Tax question on getting paid under the table

if you are on one of those paypal-only affiliate networks then you could probably get away with selling tons of ebooks or software and not pay taxes on all of it.
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