I recently received this email from payoneer:

Thank you for using Payoneer. To keep up with all current regulations, our regulators have requested that we have the following information from our customers, for the business they are being paid for through Payoneer. Please note that all of your information is kept strictly confidential.

• Please provide a copy of a valid government issued ID with a photo. The ID should match the details provided on your Payoneer account. Please make sure the document is clear, and has your name and your date of birth displayed clearly in English. You can scan or photograph your documents and attach them to your reply to this e-mail. We prefer jpg format under 1MB. Please make sure to send both sides of the document where relevant.
• Please send us the URL of your website.
• Please provide us with invoices relating to the payment of XXXXXXX received in your account XXXXXXXXX 2011.

We would really appreciate it if you could provide the information requested within 5 business days.

We thank you again for being a loyal Payoneer user.

Have a great holiday season,

The Payoneer Team


I choose them cause they stated they didnt ask for any info in some other posts i read.... The amount is in between 10-15K usd, Im a freelancer, should i worry about taxation in that money or payoneer cancelling my account for any reason? I create and design websites and im located in the asia region

any ideas? advices?

i use payoneer myself for long time now and never had any problems.
you can trust them.

have you got this email as well? ive been using them for almost 2 years and this email appeared recently...

Just check the senders mail address.

yup, its payoneer customers support email address

I am also using them since many days no problem so far.Contact with them via live support or submit a ticket about your issue.

And in BHW there hav 2 Payoneer agents i know so far.One of them is he

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackha...-payoneer.html

You can contact with him.

He solved my one problem through my this thread

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackha...ster-card.html

Provide the required docs to them and it will be ok they rocks very trusty guys.

It will be part of the "know your customer" anti-money laundering rules. Sounds pretty standard for a $15K payment. Taxation is up to you to sort out, they're just making sure it's not drug / terrorist / phishing money.

Open support ticket with them to make sure the request is legit then proceed with the what they want. If you are not doing anything shady then you should not worry.

btw, Was this amount paid by freelance site like elance and such? Why aren't they trusting that freelancing site as a payment sender?

Originally Posted by momschips

I recently received this email from payoneer:

Thank you for using Payoneer. To keep up with all current regulations, our regulators have requested that we have the following information from our customers, for the business they are being paid for through Payoneer. Please note that all of your information is kept strictly confidential.

• Please provide a copy of a valid government issued ID with a photo. The ID should match the details provided on your Payoneer account. Please make sure the document is clear, and has your name and your date of birth displayed clearly in English. You can scan or photograph your documents and attach them to your reply to this e-mail. We prefer jpg format under 1MB. Please make sure to send both sides of the document where relevant.
• Please send us the URL of your website.
• Please provide us with invoices relating to the payment of XXXXXXX received in your account XXXXXXXXX 2011.

We would really appreciate it if you could provide the information requested within 5 business days.

We thank you again for being a loyal Payoneer user.

Have a great holiday season,

The Payoneer Team


I choose them cause they stated they didnt ask for any info in some other posts i read.... The amount is in between 10-15K usd, Im a freelancer, should i worry about taxation in that money or payoneer cancelling my account for any reason? I create and design websites and im located in the asia region

any ideas? advices?

Hi!

I'm Talia from Payoneer. Yes, this email is legit. We aren't giving out info to anyone, but we are required to have information on file for people who earn above a certain amount per year. You aren't in trouble or anything, and this isn't being turned over to any governmental agency or anything, but it's required by our regulators for us to have on file to comply with all of the laws we follow (which may seem annoying, but that's what makes your money safe with us).

If you'd like further confirmation, please email me at taliakl at payoneer.com - it won't bother me at all, honestly.

Is this amount disclosed to payoneer card holders?

Originally Posted by momschips

Is this amount disclosed to payoneer card holders?

The specific amount cannot be disclosed, and is of course subject to change as required by our regulators. As Talia mentioned, it's necessary in order for us to comply with laws and regulations, however you can trust in knowing that those laws and regulations provide the excellent financial security that we're able to offer our account holders

Originally Posted by Nissim-Payoneer

The specific amount cannot be disclosed, and is of course subject to change as required by our regulators. As Talia mentioned, it's necessary in order for us to comply with laws and regulations, however you can trust in knowing that those laws and regulations provide the excellent financial security that we're able to offer our account holders

One thing that came up before but I don't think was fully answered. If $$ is loaded directly onto the card - as opposed to $$ that ends up on the card as a result of work carried out through the affiliate (eg. elance, freelancer, etc).

1. Is the affiliate aware of the amounts that are used to load the card?
2. Do you have any obligation to contact the relevant tax authorities with regard to these amounts?

I would be grateful for a definitive answer on this.


Regards,


borderfox

Let's save the Payoneer rep the trouble and just answer YES to the latter question above. Of course as a matter of law the card has to disclose to Big Bro the amounts if they go over a certain threshold in the course of a transaction or over a year ($10,000, or 200 transactions is what I've heard).

Originally Posted by zebrahat

Let's save the Payoneer rep the trouble and just answer YES to the latter question above. Of course as a matter of law the card has to disclose to Big Bro the amounts if they go over a certain threshold in the course of a transaction or over a year ($10,000, or 200 transactions is what I've heard).

Let's not save them the trouble. Let's have them spell it out exactly. Is the threshold exactly as you intimate i.e. $10k (or €10k in the EU) or 200 transactions.


These are things that we need to be 100% clear on (I think many will agree with that).

I think we would all agree to such details. I was just getting to the punchline (yes, big Gov says, all your info are belong to us), rather than the minutia of what level of activity they say today triggers the reporting. The government changes those details constantly, and often disregards them by accusing people who stick below the thresholds of 'stacking' in order to avoid disclosure. Better to just accept the bottom line and plan your workarounds accordingly.

Originally Posted by zebrahat

I think we would all agree to such details. I was just getting to the punchline (yes, big Gov says, all your info are belong to us), rather than the minutia of what level of activity they say today triggers the reporting. The government changes those details constantly, and often disregards them by accusing people who stick below the thresholds of 'stacking' in order to avoid disclosure. Better to just accept the bottom line and plan your workarounds accordingly.

I doubt they would come out and just say it because then everyone would just structure their transactions to suit. Also the know your customer regulations are deliberately nebulous: for example banks in most countries have to report (cash) transactions over $10K, but then the onus is also on them to report "suspicious" transactions of lower amounts. If the customer is later found to be doing something dodgy and the bank is found not to have acted defensibly then they are open to various types of censure, so really it is up to each financial institution to look after their own best interests.

Originally Posted by borderfox

One thing that came up before but I don't think was fully answered. If $$ is loaded directly onto the card - as opposed to $$ that ends up on the card as a result of work carried out through the affiliate (eg. elance, freelancer, etc).

1. Is the affiliate aware of the amounts that are used to load the card?
2. Do you have any obligation to contact the relevant tax authorities with regard to these amounts?

I would be grateful for a definitive answer on this.


Regards,


borderfox

Hey,

Your partner/affiliate program does not have direct access to your private load history.

As Talia mentioned, we are required by our regulators, in addition to laws and regulations, to keep proper records. We do not, however, have an obligation to report these amounts (unless specifically requested by a government agency).

Hope that answers your questions.

I also just wanted to point out that the requested documents in the e-mail posted by the OP are being requested by our regulators, not a government agency. As mentioned, they are necessary to have on file in order for us to comply with laws and regulations, which in turn keep your accounts safe and secure.

another question, lets say i receive 5K per month, but we are a group of people of 3-4 working together for this amount, can i have separate cards? lets say the card receiving being the main card with child cards for each person that is behind the main card? Im getting all this payments out of plimus but plimus just offers me 1 card, how can I manage this?

Originally Posted by momschips

another question, lets say i receive 5K per month, but we are a group of people of 3-4 working together for this amount, can i have separate cards? lets say the card receiving being the main card with child cards for each person that is behind the main card? Im getting all this payments out of plimus but plimus just offers me 1 card, how can I manage this?

A Payoneer account may have only (1) active card. Each person may of course open their own individual Plimus account and receive their own Payoneer card, however they would not be linked as you suggested.

Originally Posted by momschips

another question, lets say i receive 5K per month, but we are a group of people of 3-4 working together for this amount, can i have separate cards? lets say the card receiving being the main card with child cards for each person that is behind the main card? Im getting all this payments out of plimus but plimus just offers me 1 card, how can I manage this?

Everything Nissim said is correct, of course, but if you have a registered business, you can sign up to be a partner and then use the funds you get from Plimus to pay your coworkers on their own cards (that you can issue as a partner).

If this is something that interests you, please email me at taliakl at payoneer.com

Ok, following payoneer's clarification that they only maintain records, are national tax agencies likely to ask for said data (specific to payoneer a/c holders domiciled in their country) and sift through it in general - OR - only make specific enquiries related to specific individuals - whose payoneer a/cs have come to their attention?

Anyone?

I would like to know this as well

Hmm, I would contact their support about it to be sure. I thought companies like this don't ever ask for info. But yeah, contact their support just in case.

That's really unusual, i haven't got the slightest idea that companies like payoneer do ask for personal informations such as this.

Originally Posted by Leonne

Hmm, I would contact their support about it to be sure. I thought companies like this don't ever ask for info. But yeah, contact their support just in case.

Originally Posted by legendking

That's really unusual, i haven't got the slightest idea that companies like payoneer do ask for personal informations such as this.

The e-mail is indeed legit, as explained by Talia:

Originally Posted by PayoneerTeam

Hi!

I'm Talia from Payoneer. Yes, this email is legit. We aren't giving out info to anyone, but we are required to have information on file for people who earn above a certain amount per year. You aren't in trouble or anything, and this isn't being turned over to any governmental agency or anything, but it's required by our regulators for us to have on file to comply with all of the laws we follow (which may seem annoying, but that's what makes your money safe with us).

If you'd like further confirmation, please email me at taliakl at payoneer.com - it won't bother me at all, honestly.