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Old 08-26-2008, 04:09 AM
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Ok i'm guessing some people on the forum use this technique, they use paypal accounts (which they purchased and created with fake name, etc) and send money to it from affiliate networks who send via paypal. Can you be illegally convicted (Country-US) for using a paypal acct with fake names, address, etc (wouldn't this be considered identity theft, but if the paypal acct is in a different country, how could you be convicted? I would think this would be against Paypals TOS, instead of being illegal through the US law framwork?
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Old 08-26-2008, 04:11 AM
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Why would you ask a question like that ?
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Old 08-26-2008, 04:17 AM
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Default Re: Is this illegal?

That could be considered wire fraud. I don't know why you would want to have paypal accounts with false information unless you plan on avoiding taxes or are doing something else illegal. Then you're just compounding your problems.
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Old 08-26-2008, 04:22 AM
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Tax evasion is #1 easiest thing to nail them on
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Old 08-26-2008, 04:28 AM
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Default Re: Is this illegal?

He's asking most likely because he wants to commit affiliate fraud or do something shady and wants a b.s. account banned rather than having his real data on the direct track known frauder list.
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Old 08-26-2008, 04:31 AM
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Good, I hope he does it and goes to fed prison for being a douchebag.
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Old 08-26-2008, 04:41 AM
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Default Re: Is this illegal?

Actually, I think the guy is trying to figure out now to be legal but has language issues.
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Old 08-26-2008, 04:50 AM
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Default Re: Is this illegal?

All things considered, false bank info is wire fraud, money through the mail is mail fraud
each count is a 1-5 year jail sentence (US). If paypal detects this on any paypal account- owned by someone located in any country -they will freeze the money and you are in deep crap.

Suggestion, do it right, if you are in a country that monitors all bank transactions-
work something out with a relative and stay out of jail.
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Actually, I think the guy is trying to figure out now to be legal but has language issues.
That's what you got out of that? LOL. My understanding was that he was asking if it was OK to create paypal accounts with false information to receive payments from affiliate networks.
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Old 08-26-2008, 05:12 AM
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Default Re: Is this illegal?

It is not illegal depending on how you proceed with it. If the affiliate company never asks you confirm whether you are in the US or not. It is just black hat.

Plus you have to remember to include your tax dues, on what you make from that account, maybe list it as other income.

It is not illegal to earn money under an alias, the tax man only gets angry when you do not pay all your dues. Also, just don't lie to the government.
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Old 08-26-2008, 05:48 AM
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No, i have multiple epn accounts right (so i dont have just one making $2000 a day which will get banned under the current climate) since u cant use the same paypal account for different epn accounts i need to add a new paypal account to it. I have already used paypal accounts from people i know, now i need brand new ones.
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Old 08-26-2008, 05:49 AM
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The only way i can see is buying paypal accounts and sending money to them then sending it back to my actual paypal account.
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Old 08-26-2008, 05:52 AM
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He's asking most likely because he wants to commit affiliate fraud or do something shady and wants a b.s. account banned rather than having his real data on the direct track known frauder list.
Also isn't affiliate fraud blackhat (going against TOS) ?? Are u in the right forum, maybe u have mistaken this for digitalpoint.....
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Default Re: Is this illegal?

fuck paypal. do whatever you want
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Old 08-26-2008, 06:03 AM