Frank Mir vs. Brock Lesnar who will win

vegasvillan · #1 (**permalink**) 07-10-2009, 04:33 AM

I wanna see Mir break Lesnar's Leg
St. Piere is going to win and Henderson is going to dominate.

What do you guys think?

vegasvillan · #2 (**permalink**) 07-10-2009, 04:42 AM

Lesnar is a cocky douchebag. Coture would have beat him in my opinion but he was playing Lesnars stand up game. Mir is better all around fighter and has twice the talent Lesnar has.

JSP is the best pound for pound figher right after Silva. This will be a tough fight but you saw what he did to BJ! lol

Let me know if any of you guys want to place a bet! lol

**Jcsarokin** · #3 (**permalink**) 07-10-2009, 04:47 AM

DUDE lesnar doesnt feel pain! like he is a brick of a human. He's also been training on the submissions so he should be able to watchout for it. Has he every gotten bloodied up in a fight?

vegasvillan · #4 (**permalink**) 07-10-2009, 04:50 AM

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lol fuck blow job pen. hes the real douchebag. most ppl forget that lesner is a ncaa wrestling champion. that means hes been with the best of the states. the guys training ethic is like none other unlike Mir whos custying out with lines of coke at partyies with rampage in vegas. Lesner sends peolpe flying with punches. Belive me mirs best chance is lesners legs and i can guarentte you that his whole training was specifically not to let that happen.

Lesner vs Fedor is the real match up

HAHAHAHAHA When Mir was going though his depression he was a bouncer at a strip club here. After seeing how sad he looked I know he will never go back. Mir has ten times more to prove than Lesnar. He is going to underestimate Mir.

oh yea Bisby is the truth I can agree with you on that one. But Hendo might have that one.

I saw Wanderlei Silva at the gas station yesterday. He was super cool....I was pissed when he lost to Rampage

binnn · #5 (**permalink**) 07-10-2009, 04:51 AM

Frank mir, shure

**niche1** · #6 (**permalink**) 07-10-2009, 04:52 AM

I hope Frank Mir beats Brock Lesnar, as well. I just don't like the guy and it is his size that is his biggest asset (no pun intended). Frank is talented and I hope that he uses what he knows and makes Brock chase him.

GSP vs Alves........I train at American Top Team (not the one that he is at), so I am torn between the two. I like each fighters style and they each demonstrate a nice blending of striking with BJJ/wrestling. Sigh.......the Mir vs Lesnar fight is easy. Not this one.

BJ Penn had his ass handed to him by GSP. I don't dislike BJ, but he really was outmatched by a superior fighter in GSP(be nice to the garbage collector.....he could be the next GSP

)

UFC 100 is going to be a blast!

**madinaz** · #7 (**permalink**) 07-10-2009, 04:54 AM

My money is on Lesnar. He's been learning how to actually do more than just use his power to win fights. It should be a good fight but Mir is going down

vegasvillan · #8 (**permalink**) 07-10-2009, 04:55 AM

Fuck man I wish....Tickets sold so quick...But the Fertita Brothers own a bunch of Casino's out here and show it for free so it turns into a big fight party and it's pretty cool....So I think were going to get to the casino early so we can get a good seat at the bar.

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hey vegas are you goning to the show?

MrBounce · #9 (**permalink**) 07-10-2009, 04:59 AM

herring is no slouch and he was absolutely dominated. herring has a hell of a ground game too.

I think Lesnar has just improved at a phenomenal rate since Mir, and this won't be much of a contest.

**unlimitedpostings** · #10 (**permalink**) 07-10-2009, 05:00 AM

I see all the fights turning out exactly like you vegas... Or thats the way I'd like to see them turn out.

**pyronaut** · #11 (**permalink**) 07-10-2009, 05:09 AM

Lesnar will win by TKO I feel. I think he is just far too big to be dominated by Mir.
GSP should win aswell.

I know everyone is gonna be hating on me for this, but i actually thing bisping is in with a chance. I highly doubt a KO. But everytime i have seen him fight, while he somewhat bored me at times, He is really a smart fighter, and a well rounded fighter aswell. You have to remember that he has only lost one fight in split decision to rashad evans. And look where he managed to be before he got beaten by machida.

I think it will be close, but i think bisping is heavily underrated.

vegasvillan · #12 (**permalink**) 07-10-2009, 05:09 AM

About 3 years now...its easy to get caught up in the whole party thing but it gets a little old after a while lol but I have seen people move to vegas turn to drug addicts, loose all there money, then end up selling there ass to get home lol

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Man that sounds awesome. I wanna live in vegas for 2 years but im a party animal and i think its not a good idea lol. How long youve lived in vegas for?

vegasvillan · #13 (**permalink**) 07-10-2009, 05:19 AM

Rehab is so fucking crazy and everyone there is up from the night b4 lol. Theres alot of sexy half naked girls there but you always see something you really dont want to. If you dont know anyone cover is like $150 I think.

I know a few people who Met Dana White and they said he was pretty cool....and some said he was a douche

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BAHAHA perfectly said. I hear the Rehab parties are something else. Is dana white the douchebag he protrays on t.v or is he really just a couple steps ahead of everyone else in terms of marketing

magcshroom · #14 (**permalink**) 07-10-2009, 05:21 AM

Lesnar will win. That guy hits like a fucking dumptruck.

Anyone have some good sites that always have good high quality streams?

**WizGizmo** · #15 (**permalink**) 07-10-2009, 05:26 AM

Frank Mir will win if Lesnar doesn't get a ground and pound opportunity (and doesn't get to sit on Mir)

Cheers! - "Wiz"

vegasvillan · #16 (**permalink**) 07-10-2009, 05:33 AM

Will do....hit me up if you come to vegas

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Yah i know exactly what your talking about. Im from toronto and we have the number 8th club in the whole world the guvernment and same buissness goes down there. Jaws are moving and juicebags cant wait to take off there shirts. youll also see a "chick" that has "something" different about her. The parties are till 7 am and some ppl usually end up goining to some after hours called comfort zone but everyone that doesnt go there calls it custy zone. I know girls that do this weekly and even worse when its the summer theydo a boat cruise before so some are up for 3 days at a club The guvernment is somethign else. 3-4 thousand ppl for some there parties, 7 rooms 25 djs from 10-7 am but i leave around 4 5 with a shit load of phone numbers.

ps: If you ever come to toronto hit me up

heiny · #17 (**permalink**) 07-10-2009, 05:51 AM

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not even.

lesner is a beast and if mazzagati wasnt such a douchebag referee there wouldnt be a Brock vs Mir 2. also had lesner just pushed off of mirs ass with his left foot hes other foot wouldve slipped out. Lesner is a problem and if Mir tries an armbar Lesner can just powerbomb him on his grade 3 mush room hair cut.

also watch alves is gonna be the upset of the year when he beats pierre.

i also got coleman beating bonnar and i really wish they show the J. JOnes match from the pliminary on the ppv. that kid is gonna be a star

Easy to say that Lesnar only had to push off with his other leg, when your only schooling in BJJ has been 3 months. Most likely he has learnt how to defend this.

Mazzagati stopped it in the right time. Didn't you see the tapping???

You never seen how powerbombs can just sink the submission deeper? There are ways to defend for the powerbomb too. And Mir isn't exactly a featherweight guy either.

I myself think Mir will lose. Lesnar gonna shoot again and just stay in sidecontrol and get the 5 round wins...Or Mir gasses on the 4th round and gets KO'd. I know Mir is a powerhouse in the gym, so most likely gotten his cardio up to standard + more since he has larger muscles and they of course need more oxygen

BigHustlah · #18 (**permalink**) 07-10-2009, 05:58 AM

I pick Lesnar (because his fists look like fire hydrants)

GSP (He's my all-time favorite fighter....but I'm bracing myself for an upset...this will be a good fight)

And Bisping to beat Dan Henderson. Just a hunch on this one.

I'm so pumped to watch these fights...haven't seen this many good cards all in one night in a while.

**WizGizmo** · #19 (**permalink**) 07-10-2009, 06:04 AM

I really want to see a 3rd Faber-Brown match. Uriah Faber hit a streak of bad luck with Mike Brown. I know he can kick Brown's ass.

heiny · #20 (**permalink**) 07-10-2009, 06:05 AM

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lol fuck blow job pen. hes the real douchebag. most ppl forget that lesner is a ncaa wrestling champion. that means hes been with the best of the states. the guys training ethic is like none other unlike Mir whos custying out with lines of coke at partyies with rampage in vegas. Lesner sends peolpe flying with punches. Belive me mirs best chance is lesners legs and i can guarentte you that his whole training was specifically not to let that happen.

Lesner vs Fedor is the real match up

AH WHAT?!?!
LESNAR V. FEDOR?! You been reading too much sherdog?!

Fedor would mullar Lesnar quicker than Tim Sylvia. Youre nuts..Fedor has AMAZING GROUND GAME & AMAZING HANDS - quite unorthodox boxing - and wouldn't let a guy like Lesnar toss him around. Jeez how can you even compare Lesnar on the same level as Fedor.

BigHustlah · #21 (**permalink**) 07-10-2009, 06:09 AM

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I really want to see a 3rd Faber-Brown match. Uriah Faber hit a streak of bad luck with Mike Brown. I know he can kick Brown's ass.

I'm right there with you. Mike Brown hits hard as shit, but with two fucked up hands (one was broken, right?) he should have destroyed Faber that last fight. That was ridiculous watching Faber throw that many elbows standing up. If he takes his time and heals up good, I think he will get him the 3rd time. If not, Faber might fade out, as sad as it is to say.

rap8557 · #22 (**permalink**) 07-10-2009, 06:17 AM

hmmmm i smell money $$$

vegasvillan · #23 (**permalink**) 07-10-2009, 06:27 AM

Looks like we got the official MMA thread going lol

heiny · #24 (**permalink**) 07-10-2009, 06:35 AM

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lol buddy type in fedor vs randelman. he got dropped on his head and lesner is 10 times the wrestler randleman is. MMA isnt liek boxing. in boxing its just one style. In mma the best wrestler isnt the best striker and the best striker isnt the best juijitsu guy. fact is as long as the other person is better than you in one area you can lose. Also dont compare Tim Silvia to lesner. Silvia is a fat alchoholic. He aint shit and the only reason he won the Heavyweight belt was because the whoel division was a joke back then. Anyone who doesnt want to see fedor face lesner is lying.

I saw that pride fight live.
What's the chance of Fedor getting supplexed again? Lol none. How many times you seen people get heavily supplexed? Rare.
What happened next in the fight? Fedor sweeped Randleman..And Randleman is far greater in terms of ground game than Lesnar is.

I'd love to see Fedor face Lesnar. It'll be another joke setup for Fedor; just like the hong man choi fight.

I guess all Fedor haters would say Fedor hit Arlovski with a lucky punch cus otherwise he would have lost the fight yeh?

The only time he was close to losing was the fajita fight. Rocked but gained composure.

heiny · #25 (**permalink**) 07-10-2009, 07:14 AM

Fedor has lived and breathed fighting since he was a kid - fighting at an early age in school. I don't see how Fedor would be losing when he's the guy with the most credentials; winning sambo and judo tournaments..Not to mention he has taken on "goliaths" before with epic victory.

Has Brock been tested with a punch to the face yet? How well will he take it when Fedor breaks his nose or puts a huge mouse over his eye? Or even cuts him on the forehead and the blood is spilling like Edwin Dewees' fight?

Fedor is an all-round fighter. He can stand he can go to the ground. Where is Lesnar? The only position he's dangerous is sidecontrol or mount.

And I beg to differ that Lesnar will be crowned king for years like Liddell was.

The match up will probably not happen either since Lesnar likes UFC and Fedor doesn't like UFC with contract disputes of not being able to participates in what he loves the most; sambo.

darkimus · #26 (**permalink**) 07-10-2009, 07:33 AM

Brock Lesnar is way overrated. I don't even see how he got a title shot so early into his UFC career unless the fix is in.

darkimus · #27 (**permalink**) 07-10-2009, 07:37 AM

I don't think Dana White will ever go for Fedor vs. Lesnar cause he doesn't want his paper champ to get embarassed that badly.

**lonny41** · #28 (**permalink**) 07-10-2009, 07:40 AM

Lesnar will win, yeah mir beat him last time, but lesnar was inexperienced. Lesnar was mauling mir like he was nothing. He will do it again, he's to big and powerful, and the fastest guy his size Ive ever seen.

Yes, mir will get spanked, then Lesnar will humiliate him like he did herring, pointing and laughing, he is a bear of a man. The only way you would beat him is if they alowed ball kicking in the UFC.

shabang · #29 (**permalink**) 07-10-2009, 08:10 AM

gotta go with lesnar too,he's a brick shithouse.Totally dominated heath herring like he was a different class.His legs are vulnerable though so I wouldn't be betting on it

on a side note,how we gonna see this in the UK,anyone know now that setanta is deep six?

Slasher · #30 (**permalink**) 07-10-2009, 08:40 AM

Fuck how can we watch this? Will it be on spike? When is it?

darkimus · #31 (**permalink**) 07-10-2009, 08:44 AM

It's on ppv but will probably be streamed on the usual websites for ppv's. Ustream and Justin.tv.

Slasher · #32 (**permalink**) 07-10-2009, 09:29 AM

When is the fight on PPV?

heiny · #33 (**permalink**) 07-10-2009, 09:56 AM

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You never know. Theres too much money to be made with this. Ufc wants to expand into other countries and what better way to expand into Russia then Brock vs Fedor for the title live from Moscow brought to you by Vodka

Then UFC needs to rewrite their contract terms for Fedor especially since he appears here there everywhere and goes to his yearly sambo tournaments

jedediahd · #34 (**permalink**) 07-10-2009, 10:18 AM

slasher, the fight is on Sat.

As someone with mma experience, based on wha ti saw in the pre show etc, I have to go with lesnar. He is too much to handle give tha the now know submission defense. Mir definitely has a chance, but he is going to have to catch him....I think Lesnar in the first, but the longer it goes the better for Mir....

Also, I think Alves over GSP and Hendo over Bisping, I dont think Bisping has fought anyone in the league of hendo.

I also think

shabang · #35 (**permalink**) 07-10-2009, 01:22 PM

fuckin sweet

this is being shown on channel 433 the racing channel in UK according to multiple blogs and newspapers

**godmonkee** · #36 (**permalink**) 07-10-2009, 01:43 PM

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fuckin sweet

this is being shown on channel 433 the racing channel in UK according to multiple blogs and newspapers

Yep thats what I have read to 433 in uk and setanta ireland for the republic of Ireland, As for who I want to win, I believe Lesnar will win this one, but it will be no walk over, as for the gsp fight I really hope he loses no offence or anything but I really don't like him, he can fight don't get me wrong, but he is way to cocky imo, so I hope he gets his ass kicked. All in all though UFC 100 is looking good and should turn out to be awesome to watch, I just wish I could be there.

Sanitarium · #37 (**permalink**) 07-10-2009, 02:09 PM

I wonder if either one will die in the match. I'm thinking of registering a death domain.

beaglejuice · #38 (**permalink**) 07-10-2009, 02:30 PM

Lesnar is a one dimensional fighter. Meaning he's so predictable and only use his strength and bulk to overcome an opponent. Mir is multi dimensional and flexible. Unless Lesnar hits Mir with a solid shot, he's in for a long or short bout, with him on the losing end.

Mir by submission...

vegasvillan · #39 (**permalink**) 07-10-2009, 08:12 PM

If anyone lives in the Vegas area theres the UFC expo at Mandalay Bay going on all day today and tomorrow. Weigh Ins are at 4:00pm today

shabang · #40 (**permalink**) 07-10-2009, 08:34 PM

just placed a $20 accumulator with ladbrokes.Got 36/1
here's the way they see it:

01:00 J Jones 1/6 J O'Brien 7/2

01:00 J Miller 1/2 M Danzig 6/4

01:00 S Bonnar 2/9 M Coleman 3/1

01:00 CB Dollaway 2/5 T Lawlor 7/4

01:00 DH Kim 8/15 TJ Grant 11/8

01:00 M Grice 5/6 S Gugerty 5/6

03:00 D Henderson 2/5 M Bisping 7/4

03:00 J Fitch 2/9 P Thiago 3/1

03:00 Y Akiyama 3/10 A Belcher 12/5

04:00 G St Pierre 3/10 T Alves 12/5

04:00 B Lesnar 2/5 F Mir 7/4

I took 9 of the favourites and Bisping.Left the Grice-Gugerty fight alone.Starts at 3 a.m. in this neck of the woods.This is gonna be good.

**dizz** · #41 (**permalink**) 07-10-2009, 09:19 PM

I am betting against Lesner, pehaps not a good idea. Mir can win if he works Lesners old injuries Ie: his ankle, or straight goes for a choke out. Lesner is not taking Mir seriously, this will work against him in the fight. For both these athletes, this is a career fight must win for either man. Lesner cannot be taken lightly, he is a powerhouse. Mir has more experience, but like anybody else, can be knocked out. And the reasons the powers that be have given Lesner another chance, is because he is really marketable, everyone should understand that, at least people from here. But by all means, the fight is on. So enjoy every second of it, it will be short. If Lesner does win, he will by no means be a paper champion, as someone had labeled him in this post. He has better tools than most men when he got to this sport, but he is still a flake, and if/when he wins, he will do the same as he has done in the other sports he participated in, quit. But Lesner has matured in his game, now Mir has to step up to win once again. And yes, like I said, this is once again... LOL He hasn't beaten Mir, so Lesner has more of something to prove than Mir does.

**hotstox** · #42 (**permalink**) 07-10-2009, 11:14 PM

Lesnar has some so fucking far with his ground game... the only way this fight is gonna go mir's way is if he ends up catching a lucky fucking break. Lesnar is ten times the fighter he was before, and did you see how beat up mir looked after the last fight? lesnar was hardly even sweating.

magcshroom · #43 (**permalink**) 07-11-2009, 06:42 PM

Can anyone hook me up with a stream? Or does anyone know a site that has like HD streams and you pay like $5 a month or something?

**dpalat** · #44 (**permalink**) 07-11-2009, 06:57 PM

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Can anyone hook me up with a stream? Or does anyone know a site that has like HD streams and you pay like $5 a month or something?

Try:

http://www.mmashare.com/brock-lesnar...100-t7033.html

**martasanto45** · #45 (**permalink**) 07-12-2009, 12:34 AM

mir and pierre gonna win

btw anyone knows where can i watch it for free online?
$50 for the package i think its an absurd.. my black box is down so that sucks

edit:
got the stream