http://www.newfoundnames.com/should-...enguin-update/

"The Penguin update was a complete failure. Every website developer, online publisher, small business… anyone with a website … expects certain minor ranking changes with a Google update but this was like reverting to 1995.""

"I don’t think Matt Cutts or Google realizes the extensive amount of damage they have done. Minor changes are all part of business but the key to providing a relevant search experience is educating and embracing the very community who provides such information. The answer is certainly not to replace them overnight with brands or Wikipedia articles."

"There are thousands of people who got executed with this Penguin update due to the overnight and drastic measure of change. For math geeks the execution of those Penguin update was a complete failure. Not only has it led spam rise to the top (which some argue may be one reason) but it’s also provided absolutely no logical pattern for building a sustainable website."

Haaaaa

See? It's not just blackhats who are in serious disagreement with the updates.

I'm still sayin' Penguin is a transitional phase... (Y) It's a prelude to sumthin' else.

You mean... the whole web spam team?

I think no. Google can't find a better bitch!

The whole article is pretty good!

Originally Posted by moeatwa

I'm still sayin' Penguin is a transitional phase... (Y) It's a prelude to sumthin' else.

I sure as hell hope that this ridiculous mistake is transitional.

What do you mean though? What do you see succeeding this?

Firing people doesn't help the cause, reduction of salary does.

I'm happy when reading the article. Thanks for your post

I am certain that Matty will be tarred and feathered by site/SEO operators for ruining their lives. The question is..when?

Originally Posted by LakeForest

I sure as hell hope that this ridiculous mistake is transitional.

What do you mean though? What do you see succeeding this?

Perhaps an entirely new algorithm. I posted an article a while back on how Google patented an Algo on replicating the behavior of manual raters back in November '11. Maybe that's where they're going with this.

It's good to vent, but calling for him to be fired is a bit ridiculous. Always remember, Google does not give a shit about you, and thinks that this update was a success overall. They are all having parties over there at Google drinking margaritas and laughing at all these threads bitching about the update.

Once this all calms down, I think the people who stick around will actually find that this update has made it easier to rank in Google. You just have to change your mind set and your strategies. It's not hard and there is data to back it up now (look up microsite master's article).

LoL.. Its all due to Global Warming

Originally Posted by jstover77

It's good to vent, but calling for him to be fired is a bit ridiculous. Always remember, Google does not give a shit about you, and thinks that this update was a success overall. They are all having parties over there at Google drinking margaritas and laughing at all these threads bitching about the update.

Originally Posted by jstover77

Once this all calms down, I think the people who stick around will actually find that this update has made it easier to rank in Google. You just have to change your mind set and your strategies. It's not hard and there is data to back it up now (look up microsite master's article).

^- exactly!

Wow, people really need to stop crying and move on. Figure out what happened and game it again.

Ohh and none of my sites got Penguin hurt and a few actually took over spots that where killed. So
GO PENGUIN!!!!! <-- edited cause i put panda like a idiot. =-]

Ohh and look at how many of these so called SEO Guru sites that have come up in the last year alone? Everyone with Scrapebox is now a SEO GURU!
Shit is getting a little anoying and i can understand from Googles point of view of wanting to stop this get rich quick shit. <-- hate me for it, but its true!

Originally Posted by ddvv84

^- exactly!

Wow, people really need to stop crying and move on. Figure out what happened and game it again.

Ohh and none of my sites got panda hurt and a few actually took over spots that where killed. So
GO PANDA!

Don't you mean go Penguin?

I think he get bonuses for the job like this

Honestlly, i dont think Matt did this update, without GOOGLE BOSS'es, More than that, just think about, if before Penguin many BIg Companies Ranked NO1 their sites, means they never paid for Adwords ! Now, All CRAP is ranked NO1 and WELL Based sites are GONE = NEW Adwords Campaign and High results for Financial Quater for Google im 100% sure this was the main Google IDEA, to FUCK everybody and to make them to Start a new Multibillions Campaigns

BTW, we are spending time here, and talking about nothing, Google doesnt care about our feelings and our looses, they need to maintain their income, same as we want. THink about ! Will a Lawyer or BIG ATTORNEY COMPANY Start a new 6 figure Adwords Campaign if they was ranked NO 1 ?Of course NEVER, but after Penguin, who wants to make money, have to Deal with Google Adwords.

Matt Cutts - BITCH Yes, he is, but he is WAS HIRED exactly for this !

Who cares about traffic loose ? Only those who wont pay adwords campaign
And, Guys, Dont you think about Positive Points after Penguin ? New Adwords Campaigns = Our Money in Adsense Niches

Originally Posted by Union

Who cares about traffic loose ? Only those who wont pay adwords campaign
And, Guys, Dont you think about Positive Points after Penguin ? New Adwords Campaigns = Our Money in Adsense Niches

As a hardcore ClickBank promoter who doesn't use AdWords I don't see any positive points. :-)

Originally Posted by lancis

As a hardcore ClickBank promoter who doesn't use AdWords I don't see any positive points. :-)

Google Wants You to Start Adwords too, it doesnt matter what you do online, Adsense or Amazon or Clickbank or something else... this update was focused to kill all and everything.

Originally Posted by Union

Google Wants You to Start Adwords too, it doesnt matter what you do online, Adsense or Amazon or Clickbank or something else... this update was focused to kill all and everything.

Google has a problematic business model:
- 1st if its results are not relevant people will leave
- 2nd marketers want to promote irrelevant results

While they in dilemma, I dont need to use Adwords in order to succeed. :-)

Looking at the SERPS, I think Matt works for Wikipedia, Amazon, Best Buy, Overstock, etc. That's about all I see in the SERPS for products I monitor. Services are also heavily dominated by corporate giants. Penguin will indeed go down in history as an algorithmic killer of small businesses. It's a shame so many small mom & pops got nuked in this update. Apparently their websites did not meet the quality bar set by corporate giants.

Forget firing Matt Cutts. Let the FTC investigate Google and break up the company. What we see now is how a monopoly can shift an entire industry to give the upper hand to corporate behemoths while killing small businesses in the process. No single company should have the power to dramatically change a nearly $1 trillion year industry.

Do you think a company like Google did not know THEIR update would do this?

I think they do enough testing to know what the results will be... More advertising!

My answer is Yes. And now. so we all can come back to normal life and IM rules

Penguin update is just the prelude to the "G00GLES*CKSF*CKTHISSH*TSFEWRETYRHT:RAGEQUIT:" Update.