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    If cruise ships have to carry life jackets and emergency boats in case it starts sinking. Why can't planes carry parachutes so people could possibly escape before it crashes.

    If I'm paying so much for a ticket,I'd want a better chance of surviving. Its basically pointless to fly across the Atlantic when a cruise ship has more amenities,better chance of survival if something happens,and you can carry more luggage.
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    Default Re: Why dont planes carry parachutes?

    that's because it takes a bunch of training to use a parachute. and if a plane is crashing those are not exactly good jumping conditions.

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    Default Re: Why dont planes carry parachutes?

    and for what u need a parachute ?
    Quote Originally Posted by Roparadise View Post
    If cruise ships have to carry life jackets and emergency boats in case it starts sinking. Why can't planes carry parachutes so people could possibly escape before it crashes.

    If I'm paying so much for a ticket,I'd want a better chance of surviving. Its basically pointless to fly across the Atlantic when a cruise ship has more amenities,better chance of survival if something happens,and you can carry more luggage.

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    Default Re: Why dont planes carry parachutes?

    I want some of what you've been smoking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelas111 View Post
    that's because it takes a bunch of training to use a parachute. and if a plane is crashing those are not exactly good jumping conditions.
    you are right angelas....
    but you have a chance to survive if you try to use a parachute ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by meathead1234 View Post
    I want some of what you've been smoking.
    I'l take a bit of it too.

    On a more serious note -

    1) Training requires a lot of work, and skills and most importantly, A LOT of money. Imagine 300 or so people on a plane all frustrated, all rushing around, struggling to put on a parachute?
    2) Parachutes are expensive. You need to have different sizes, for different people.
    3) The majority of crashes happen on landing, takeoff, or very close to the ground, which negates the possibility of a parachute.
    4) Getting 200-300 people to jump out of 2 exits would be a time consuming thing.

    It's better to stay in the plane and hope that the pilot does something fast.
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    Default Re: Why dont planes carry parachutes?

    Because jumping from an airplane isn't for everybody. Besides, at the speeds commercial airliners travel, most people would die instantly or suffer severe body injury. At those speeds, air behaves like maple syrup. Try filling a pool and then jump from 30 feet high. You'll get the point.

    Trust me, I jumped a few times, from perfectly working airplanes, both civilian and military.

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    Default Re: Why dont planes carry parachutes?

    ) a valid point if you just want to argue with airport authorities, but in the real world i doubt you would have the time to use the parachute, even if you knew how to.. But, they could make all the seats in the plane to eject if something goes wrong and each seat to have a parachute attached

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    Quote Originally Posted by coitza View Post
    ) a valid point if you just want to argue with airport authorities, but in the real world i doubt you would have the time to use the parachute, even if you knew how to.. But, they could make all the seats in the plane to eject if something goes wrong and each seat to have a parachute attached
    Having each seat loaded with a parachute and ejector would cost millions. And it would just be a disaster IMO.

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    Default Re: Why dont planes carry parachutes?

    Have you ever heard of the Titanic?

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    Default Re: Why dont planes carry parachutes?

    But in some situations the plane engine fails at a high enough altitude that an escape is possible.
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    Default Re: Why dont planes carry parachutes?

    i think i would rather have no training and jump form a plane knowing i have a bit of a chance then to down in a ton of metal

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    Default Re: Why dont planes carry parachutes?

    yeah, that's that movie, right ??? ...

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    Default Re: Why dont planes carry parachutes?

    The titanic sunk because of incompetence. If the telegram operators had been doing their job,they would have gotten the message about ice bergs,and had gone south to prevent hitting them.

    If the current planes dont allow for safe exit in case of engine failures at high altitude, then there needs to be a new more modern and safe design. The current layout has been around for 40+ years,without any major changes.
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    Default Re: Why dont planes carry parachutes?

    If you jumped out at cruising altitude you would die
    If a plane exploded mid air you wouldn't have a chance to chute up
    The only way it would work if they knew the plane was going to blow up then reduce altitude to 10,000 feet, go as slow as possible and have exit doors designed for jumping out of, then you also have the fact that few people will know how to use them and the huge added cost of flying 300 chutes on every single flight.

    So no, will never work, it's stupid.

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    Default Re: Why dont planes carry parachutes?

    average commercial flight has between 200 and 500 passengers - can you imagine what would happen when 200+ people open their parachute at the same time? lol

    I know! they could put a giant parachute on the airplane, so if it crashes they can just open the airplane's parachute!

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    Default Re: Why dont planes carry parachutes?

    if a plane was crashing opening the doors at that altitude would suck everyone out anyway, parachute isn't gonna do squat you'll probably pass out before you could pull the cord in those conditions

    and i don't think the airlines want people littering the earth, at least if they make you stay in the plane all the carnage will be in a confined area

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    Default Re: Why dont planes carry parachutes?

    No parachute company will take that task on. Imagine if the parachute of a plane will fail to open or break because of the speed, but still 50 people survive, that will be a hell of a law suit.
    Just let them die. That's much simpler.

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    Default Re: Why dont planes carry parachutes?

    When I said high altitude, I meant high enough for a safe jump,not cruising altitude.
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    Default Re: Why dont planes carry parachutes?

    So, you parachute out of the airplane, land safely in the sea, then drown? Think id rather die on impact!

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    Default Re: Why dont planes carry parachutes?

    I think they already carry inflatable life jackets on planes,so you dont have to worry about drowning.
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    Default Re: Why dont planes carry parachutes?

    looks better on the plane


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    Default Re: Why dont planes carry parachutes?

    When I said high altitude, I meant high enough for a safe jump,not cruising altitude.
    When a plane crashes, it goes down pretty fast - there's not gonna be enough time to get 200 people out the door in the 30 seconds it's at the correct altitude.

    You're pretty persistent on the idea, lol - maybe you should think of an alternate safety measure which doesn't involve parachutes

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    Default Re: Why dont planes carry parachutes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Roparadise View Post
    The titanic sunk because of incompetence. If the telegram operators had been doing their job,they would have gotten the message about ice bergs,and had gone south to prevent hitting them.

    If the current planes dont allow for safe exit in case of engine failures at high altitude, then there needs to be a new more modern and safe design. The current layout has been around for 40+ years,without any major changes.
    People die every single minute in car accidents much more than those who die in plane crashes so getting more secure cars is a higher priority in my opinion.

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    Default Re: Why dont planes carry parachutes?

    Planes falling to the ground at 500+ MPH, the only thing you are doing is screaming like a bitch and pooping your pants simultaneously.

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    Default Re: Why dont planes carry parachutes?

    planes don't carry it because they don't want to.. if they can they can..

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    FYI some small ultra light private planes do have parachutes. Never heard of one being used though.

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    Default Re: Why dont planes carry parachutes?

    A big planes on international flights carry a lot of people, even if they were all trained military professionals there would be very low change they could all safely exit the crashing plane.
    With regular people which most of them never even saw a parachute and also are scared shitless when plane crashing, there would be zero chance of succesfully saving atleast some of them.

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    Default Re: Why dont planes carry parachutes?

    Okay, so let's say you manage darwinistely to jump while others die in the proccess because they are either to fat for the parachute or don't find the button, and others that jumped without attaching the parachute properly as they are getting pushed because they take too much time to jump then what ?

    Earth is made by 80% of oceans, so you end up in a ocean where you have maybe 10 hours to survive before freezing to death, i don't believe that choppers can find the 20 survivors from the jump quickly enough.

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    Default Re: Why dont planes carry parachutes?

    Yea,but even if 2 people out of 300 survive because of the parachute,there's a big enough reason to implement them in my opinion.

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    Default Re: Why dont planes carry parachutes?

    Then maybe hybrid airships will become the standard method of travel,when they are finished being developed in a few years. They can carry more people,use less fuel,but will take alot longer to get to their destinations. I think the current designs are aiming for 120 to 150 mph.
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    Default Re: Why dont planes carry parachutes?

    My thought on this is:

    Planes (not all, but some, and only for those who agree to pay some extra) must introduce pods inside of planes. One for each passenger. Those pods must be hermetic, indestructible, fire and waterproof. At least some chance someone will live through the crash.

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    Default Re: Why dont planes carry parachutes?

    Next time you fly take your own as hand luggage.
    And why don't they just make planes out of the same stuff
    the black box is made of?

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    Default Re: Why dont planes carry parachutes?

    What do you need a plane for anyway? You are already traveling with that thing you 're smoking

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    Default Re: Why dont planes carry parachutes?

    My B.Sc. was in Aerospace Engineering so you can trust my words to some extent. :-)

    Most commercial airplanes nowadays give the pilot an option to reduce pressure in passenger section. A quick reduction of pressure does an unrepairable damage to your brain and puts you to sleep. So theoretically, during terrorist attack, the pilot can revert to that option.

    The same happens when you open airplane's door - the pressure drops at once. And well instead jumping whole the aircraft will fall asleep.

    Alternative is automatic ejection, like in military aircrafts. However, then you need a specially made seat and specially made suit that keeps the pressure normal during ejection. So the real solution is pretty costly and hence impractical.

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    Default Re: Why dont planes carry parachutes?

    There are lot of criticism about those answers supporting the view that there should be parachute in Airplane. although this same question has been raised in several airlines administration and aviation department before and till today, there is no resolution about it so far. just because ministry does not want to support the manufacturing of new design instead they are sticking with 40 years old models with no upgrade at all.

    and let me raise another question.

    after all these years with lots of progress in every fields of science made human life so damm easy as one could almost fly and yet whats stopping ministry like aviation to stop working in safe airplane models which I'm sure would not cost them more than they usually spend on their parties, meeting and gathering ?

    IS IT ABOUT MONEY OR BEING CARELESS.......

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    Default Re: Why dont planes carry parachutes?

    So which one of you neg repped me and is going to admit it?
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    Default Re: Why dont planes carry parachutes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Roparadise View Post
    So which one of you neg repped me and is going to admit it?
    That would be me. Stop opening stupid threads all the time. My IQ lowers every time I read a thread of yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meathead1234 View Post
    That would be me. Stop opening stupid threads all the time. My IQ lowers every time I read a thread of yours.
    1.How is this a stupid thread,unless you like having an increased chance of dying while flying?
    2.This is lounge
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    Default Re: Why dont planes carry parachutes?

    Jumping from a plane crashing from 30,000 feet and 550mph...not too smart. You'd have better chances surviving being in it during the crash

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    Default Re: Why dont planes carry parachutes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Roparadise View Post
    1.How is this a stupid thread,unless you like having an increased chance of dying while flying?
    2.This is lounge
    1) Have you ever actually been on a plane? Every time I've been on a plane and there has been turbulence, people cry and shit themselves. I would dread to think how the average person would react if the plane was actually going to crash. Plus, the additional weight and costs from parachutes would be ridiculous.

    2) Yes, so are 10000000 of your other threads and every single one of them is discussing something completely stupid.

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    Default Re: Why dont planes carry parachutes?

    I've been on planes several times,and I'd rather a slight increased in chance of being alive if one of the engine fails,then have no chance what so ever.
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    Default Re: Why dont planes carry parachutes?

    A friend of mine manufactures and sells ultralights and sport planes. A rocket propelled parachute is optional, and is
    installed on top of the plane. The parachute will be fully deployed at the press of a button in a second or two.

    I used to hang glide (my glider got too old). Every hang glider pilot has a parachute attached to the front of the harness.
    It's hand tossed and good from 400' and up. Even if the glider breaks up (usually from trying to do an unsuccessful loop), all the glider
    dacron slows you down. I'm sure YouTube has videos of everything I've mentioned including good and bad loops.

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    Default Re: Why dont planes carry parachutes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Roparadise View Post
    I've been on planes several times,and I'd rather a slight increased in chance of being alive if one of the engine fails,then have no chance what so ever.
    I have to agree with Thomas here. Although this is the Lounge, the ideas you want will probably never be publicised permanently.

    It would cost MILLIONS AND MILLIONS for all of this to be applied, but it's just not something airlines are going to do.


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