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    Default Re: Paypal steals $1k from me - Guy claims "unauthorized" transaction.

    Im surprised that sellers are having an issue losing the unauthorized payments (the legitimate ones) Ive had a bunch processed against me, its an annoyance, but I always fill in the form say it was a digital service, copy and paste any IM logs or emails, and wait. havent had one reversed succesfully yet.

    But as a buyer, I once bought traffic from some scam called millionvisitorsclub.com Adam Hudson ...50,000 hits....and I received like 6 hits, complained, took out a dispute on principle...andlost within an hour, gaypal claimed that they did not "guarantee the quality of products delivered, although I said i received nothing at all!"

    Fuckers...at least I got all his whois information and turned it into my new auto sign up stuff

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    Default Re: Paypal steals $1k from me - Guy claims "unauthorized" transaction.

    paypal has 0 respect for it's sellers. their dispute system is a complete joke

    their dispute system is supposed to be a system where buyer and seller can workout the problem before turning it to paypal....so paypal doesn't have to get involved.

    but paypal does get involved. i had a situation where people filed disputes with me. I refunded their money, and they were really happy. The situation surrounding my to do with the shipper banging up my products....but i took care of the situation and got great feedback from the buyers....

    but paypal terminated my account for having to many disputes against me.

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    Default Re: Paypal steals $1k from me - Guy claims "unauthorized" transaction.

    There are chances that the guy didnt opened the unauthorized transaction.

    Few months back, I paid $200 to one of my friend and after 10 min, Paypal hold that money and showed to my friend that the transaction was unauthorized. But what the helll, I did paid him.

    Now, Paypal wants me to confirm my paypal account by adding license, etc, etc...I am not going to provide all my personal info to that bloody suckers....And I even cant, because I used fake info...

    So, I have just lost $200 PLUS Paypal just made a profit of $200!!

    Do some math, every day, paypal mus be scamming at least 1000 persons daily, and an average of $50 from them, so over $50,000!!

    At last, remember this

    Pay = Pay Pal = To PayPal

    Paypal -> Pay to Paypal!!

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    Default Re: Paypal steals $1k from me - Guy claims "unauthorized" transaction.

    Same bullshit happened to me I've lost about $3,000 <--- from this.. Paypal is fucking retarded I'm sure I had $3k worth of unauthorized transactions..

    damnn thats why i never use paypal for that kind of amount..
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    Default Re: Paypal steals $1k from me - Guy claims "unauthorized" transaction.

    maybe we dont need keep too much money on paypal. they always do what ever they want.

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    Default Re: Paypal steals $1k from me - Guy claims "unauthorized" transaction.

    They get more insaner everyday. God i hate them...

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    Default Re: Paypal steals $1k from me - Guy claims "unauthorized" transaction.

    Heya, guys. This is my first post here, but I couldn't help but give my advice on this subject.

    A few years back, my best friend and I were selling digital products. We didn't have problems at first because most transactions were around $10. After a while though, we were doing deals for a few hundred (which was huge for that niche). We ran into our firs "unauthorized transaction" issue and then got smart from there. Here is what we did and *never* lost another penny:

    First, we would never accept payment that wasn't classified as "Good: Non-Auction" (or whatever it's called). This protected us from the liability of providing a service. We would be up front with people about why we required that, and the people who were doing business legit had no problem with it.

    Next, we required accounts have confirmed shipped addresses.

    After any major transaction, we would mail a letter (with tracking of course) to the confirmed address pretty much just summarizing the transction. If there was ever a person trying to get a chargeback, we would just submit the proof to PayPal that the "Goods:Non-Auction" were shipped, tracked, and delivered to the confirmed address. Make note that transactions over a certain ammount ($500 I think) need to be mailed via Certified Mail for PayPal to protect the seller.

    The best time ever was when a kid took his parents credit card to buy $800 worth of stuff and then try to get their money back. Needless to say, we won that dispute, and the parents probably beat the life out of him.

    Anyways, I hope this post helped. It was a bit to write from my iPhone, but it is a topic I feel strongly about. If PayPal didn't have the market monopolized, I'd stay as far away from them as possible.

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    Default Re: Paypal steals $1k from me - Guy claims "unauthorized" transaction.

    luclkily i lost only $15 in unauthorized transaction. Now i am using google check out fuck the paypal

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    Default Re: Paypal steals $1k from me - Guy claims "unauthorized" transaction.

    dude that is ridiculous

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    Default Re: Paypal steals $1k from me - Guy claims "unauthorized" transaction.

    How do you check if they have a confirmed address before they pay?

    Also-- what do you say to Paypal when they want to know what was ordered? Or do they not mind if you sell a digital product as long as it's on CD?
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    Default Re: Paypal steals $1k from me - Guy claims "unauthorized" transaction.

    Quote Originally Posted by flow View Post
    How do you check if they have a confirmed address before they pay?

    Also-- what do you say to Paypal when they want to know what was ordered? Or do they not mind if you sell a digital product as long as it's on CD?
    The product we were selling required conversation between one of us and the buyer while the payment was going on - we would state all of the requirements (Goods:Non-Auction, Confirmed Address) beforehand, and if it was not sent that way, we would immediately refund the payment.

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    Default Re: Paypal steals $1k from me - Guy claims "unauthorized" transaction.

    in business, you never leave your cash in the drawer....you always take your cash to the bank at the end of the day, my friends....

    treat PP like the register.....make withdrawals daily...

    no matter how much PP likes to pretend that they are a bank, they are not...they are a business...and if you leave big sums of money in there, they will rob you blind.
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    Default Re: Paypal steals $1k from me - Guy claims "unauthorized" transaction.

    Has anyone had a problem where paypal does a review on you and puts a dispute or two or you for transactions being suspicious? Thats what I have right now and I cant do anything about it. One of them got dropped last night but the other is still up.
    Anyone have any advice Ive already called paypal and they cant do shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allnightlong View Post
    I withdraw my funds on paypal every day. If it's I busy day, I withdraw them twice a day. NEVER leave any money in your paypal account, never ever!

    It's totally ridiculous that they allow my money to be stolen or sometimes freeze my account, even after all those tenthousands of dollars of transaction fees they took from me. I mean, what the heck are those for if not to ensure secure payments and risk-free transactions?
    I second this....I use my PayPal debit card to withdraw all my funds. $400.00 can be withdrawn each day, so fuck....if you have to....wait 5 mins till midnight (this is when THEIR clock rolls over) withdraw the $400, then after midnight grab the other $400.00. It works, it's safe and if they decide to fuck you, then you got your money....

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    Default Re: Paypal steals $1k from me - Guy claims "unauthorized" transaction.

    Quote Originally Posted by tonlilaz View Post
    i'm surprised that paypal doesn't sell insurance...for both the buyer and seller..
    anybody thinking about selling paypal insurance, stop, you would have claims every hour. You would surely go broke...

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    Default Re: Paypal steals $1k from me - Guy claims "unauthorized" transaction.

    I had this happen a few years ago. Someone had paid me by paypal and didn't recieve their item within 15 minutes or whatever and got impatient. So, they file a dispute. I have a freakin DELIVERY CONFIRMATION from the USPS in my hand that I fax to them that shows it was delivered to them.

    Did that get me anywhere?

    Nope.

    They gave them their money back.

    Fucking people!

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    Default Re: Paypal steals $1k from me - Guy claims "unauthorized" transaction.

    Quote Originally Posted by liquidyoda View Post
    I have figured out a way to win in almost any dispute or reversal from scammers via Paypal. Chargebacks are another thing and I can't win those yet. But as soon as someone reverses on me or files a unauthorized dispute, I terminate their Paypal account. I have perfected a way to do this so they are not able to receive funds to their account anymore and not able to access their account either. After I kill their account I just sit back and let Paypal rsolve the case. They always resolve it in my favor afterwards because the other person's account is dead and cannot have funds put back into it ever.
    How? Is this really possible?

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    Default Re: Paypal steals $1k from me - Guy claims "unauthorized" transaction.

    What's the better alternative then?
    Liberty Reserve?
    moneybookers?

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    Default Re: Paypal steals $1k from me - Guy claims "unauthorized" transaction.

    Same happened with me.. I took upfront 190$ payment for my services, delivered my service(100% perfectly done) and after receiving articles from me, my client claimed refund.
    Result: I lost 190$ + my paypal has been limited for last 15 days.. I tried contacting them but to no avail..

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    Default Re: Paypal steals $1k from me - Guy claims "unauthorized" transaction.

    Quote Originally Posted by liquidyoda View Post
    I have figured out a way to win in almost any dispute or reversal from scammers via Paypal. Chargebacks are another thing and I can't win those yet. But as soon as someone reverses on me or files a unauthorized dispute, I terminate their Paypal account. I have perfected a way to do this so they are not able to receive funds to their account anymore and not able to access their account either. After I kill their account I just sit back and let Paypal rsolve the case. They always resolve it in my favor afterwards because the other person's account is dead and cannot have funds put back into it ever.
    Can you share with us how do you kill that scammer's PP account?

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    Default Re: Paypal steals $1k from me - Guy claims "unauthorized" transaction.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackArcher View Post
    Can you share with us how do you kill that scammer's PP account?
    I would like to know as well, do you look them up on ebay and buy a ton of stuff from them then file a dispute?

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    Default Re: Paypal steals $1k from me - Guy claims "unauthorized" transaction.

    Why not just accept wire transfer for big amounts of money?

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    Default Re: Paypal steals $1k from me - Guy claims "unauthorized" transaction.

    Woah... I thought I was the only one getting scammed this way. I have lost about 800$ thanks to Paypal's unauthorized transactions.

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    Default Re: Paypal steals $1k from me - Guy claims "unauthorized" transaction.

    Ive lost around $600 in paypal charge backs once i was double charged back! The buyer opend a dispute won then called his credit card comapny and claimed money!

    I now use money brookers when accepting big ammounts of money its much more safer.

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    Default Re: Paypal steals $1k from me - Guy claims "unauthorized" transaction.

    Basically,

    The recent ebay news regarding hacking incidents, perhaps you may contact them to clarify?

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    Default Re: Paypal steals $1k from me - Guy claims "unauthorized" transaction.

    Paypal will most likely side with the customer on every single transaction if the customer declares a chargeback. Customer protection is more important to them than seller protection I guess.

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    Default Re: Paypal steals $1k from me - Guy claims "unauthorized" transaction.

    I cant agree more, paypal is retarded i lost 200$ (not as much as many of you) but still, the person donates, 5 months later im not even using that paypal account anymore, it is blocked, but even tho the user manages to get a chargeback with the reason unauthorized payment and gets his money back, making my account going below 0, alright and my service for all those 5 months was for free?, well i guess paypal stole me!

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