While I can offer some good advice on getting IM Businesses started and I've made some money online, I can honestly be a guy that says.. My approach with women sucks.

When ever I simply just say hey or how are you to get a conversation starter, they'll just ignore me or make up an excuse as to why they can't talk.

The fair starts tomorrow and there's always a ton of women there. I'm asking for help ladies and gents.

www.myspace.com/coreygeer I don't think I'm ugly.. I'm skinny.. I show confidence in what I say to women, I don't hesitate, I'm very straight forward..

What are some dos and donts and best of all: What are some good pickup lines or things I could say to get a woman's attention and hit off a great conversation. I want to hear your advice

PM me...maybe we can help each other out.

haha....

Actually PM me too...I'm actually going to be in training to become a pick-up coach.

BTW: Id also take down those, "don't fuck with us" pics.

Listen, women are all about radar. It's a built in system wired to their brain that goes off when an acceptable man is around.

1. Dress like a millionaire
2. Act like you could give a fuck about the women around
3. Be the center of attention, engage everyone around you, make them laugh etc
4. Repeat steps 1-3 throughout the night and more and more women will be making themselves available to you.

The other surefire method is wing bitches. Aka cute women you know who will hang with you and talk you up at the bar like "I can't believe Corey is single, hes a dot com millionaire, I hear hes phenomenal in bed, and a great time to be with"

Trust me, women have their ears open and they will want to know more about this "fantastic" guy

I probably should mention I am 20 if that helps or gives anyone an idea of the age range of women I'm working with.

Nevarc pretty much said everything you will ever need to know (coincidentally, his advice works in the business world too) . Maybe rent an Italian automobile for the weekend.

Well I drive a 1991 RS Camaro if that helps? Lol

As a college ball player and a good looking guy I've never heard a problem with women and am able to pull any girl so take my advice. I don't ever use pick up lines cuz they are corny and it's obvious you are trying to impress them.

Instead do this:

Girls love attention right? Well, don't give it to them. Try to kind of ignore them and don't pay too much attention to them. Still talk to them and be polite but make it seem like your aren't too interested. This works everytime because now they will try to get you since they've lost their confidence. This works the best with hotter girls because they expect guys to be all over them. So this way they'll come to you instead of you coming to them.

Now the next step is once you are alone to completely open up and charm them to the moon and back. Now this is completely up to you which way you want to do this, you can do this simply by just being yourself(I highly recommend it) or pull it Wedding Crashers style, I don't give a shit, it should work.

I've been pulling that move for years now and haven't failed yet. And probably won't since I have a girl of my dreams now so I won't be trying anymore.

Good luck!

True, sadly for a lot of guys, a slick automobile and threads are one of the easiest ways to score top level women.

A lot of haters get pissed and call them gold diggers, but its not true. Certainly there are money grubbing whores in every scene, but what women really find sexy is a guy with his shit together, and one that can offer some level of stability.

yes thats women, but he's dealing with girls though.

Originally Posted by Nevarc

True, sadly for a lot of guys, a slick automobile and threads are one of the easiest ways to score top level women.

A lot of haters get pissed and call them gold diggers, but its not true. Certainly there are money grubbing whores in every scene, but what women really find sexy is a guy with his shit together, and one that can offer some level of stability.

With that attitude it always will. Change it. How about "My Approach With Women Gets Better With Every Woman I Speak To"

Women are attracted to confidence. Eye contact, Eye contact, Eye contact. Don't lock in like a psycho, but don't be the first one to break it more than once or twice.

Direct always works better than BS. Best opening line is "Hi, my name is _____". Not "Know why they call this a fly? (pointing to your zipper) Because it takes you to heaven". Sorry, been looking for an excuse to say that....

After that, disregard every single thing in the world going on around you other than her. If you do that honestly, she will know and it makes a great first impression. If she has friends with her...completely ignore them. That gets the jealously vibe going which makes her friends try to horn in on her action which makes her more interested in you. Believe me...we're talking millions of years of genetic coding here. They can't help it.

If you need something to say after introducing yourself, tell her whatever it was about her that honestly caught your attention (be tactful obviously) and that you would kick yourself forever if you didn't at least walk over and say hi.

It works. I've used this approach to meet (and quickly murder) at least 116 women in the surrounding states. Just Kidding.

you worry too much.

you need to start failing with girls more. get those rejctions, ya, i said fail. so it doesnt scare you anymore.

life is like marketing, all in the message. except in real life women have 5 senses, so you need to send out 5 good messages. in order

phase one

1. sight
2. smell
3. hearing

then, once you have passed those tests, move to phase two.

4. feeling
5: taste

theres not a 20 year old this side of jupiter who wouldnt hop into a ferrari any day of the week

Ok I took the time to check the Space, pictures are no good, your showing yourself to show yourself which basically shows well nothing interesting. You want pictures that show you as the boss, having fun, people wanting to be around you.

Beyond that, I may need to fly out and straighten you up.

You've been given good advice on the forum here but if you still need more help try this link (not an affiliate link although I did make some coin when I was an affiliate) http://www.doubleyourdating.com/m/ar...versations.asp

He's got enough free advice to get you going in the right direction. Good luck.
Oh, and ditch the superfly shades.

Yea those are the kind of girls I'd like a few years ago but not anymore, things change and im only 23

Those kind of girlies are easy and anyone can pick those up.



[QUOTE=Nevarc;191714]theres not a 20 year old this side of jupiter who wouldnt hop into a ferrari any day of the week

Toss the shades and get rid of the photos where you are trying out for Reservoir Dogs 2. But looks like you've been given some good advice from others and you look like the type who shouldn't have a problem if you can follow directions.

Well, the fair starts tomorrow and let's see if we can pull it off.

The most important thing is to be yourself and to relax!! Don't try too hard. Good luck!

Originally Posted by coreygeer

Well, the fair starts tomorrow and let's see if we can pull it off.

Nevarc,
Is my pic super cool....I bet you have no idea who she is...haha

I'll make this an update day by day post and write my experiences in here and let everyone know how it goes!

Originally Posted by Nevarc

Listen, women are all about radar. It's a built in system wired to their brain that goes off when an acceptable man is around.

1. Dress like a millionaire
2. Act like you could give a fuck about the women around
3. Be the center of attention, engage everyone around you, make them laugh etc
4. Repeat steps 1-3 throughout the night and more and more women will be making themselves available to you.

The other surefire method is wing bitches. Aka cute women you know who will hang with you and talk you up at the bar like "I can't believe Corey is single, hes a dot com millionaire, I hear hes phenomenal in bed, and a great time to be with"

Trust me, women have their ears open and they will want to know more about this "fantastic" guy

oh my fuckin god you didn't!! hahahahahahahah.. dude that's some of the funniest but most honest shit.. i couldn't even finish reading the rest of the thread after reading that!

you got my vote.. be the big swingin dick at the party and you're in! but you gotta have a smooth and slick approach to it.. character is everything with women..

you gotta have 1 of 3 things to get women..

1.) a lot of cash!
2.) sense of humor (make her laugh)
3.) a big dick

as long as you can show one of those 3, you're in dude.. fortunately for me i have all 3, but that's besides the point.

but if you really have an interest in a girl, the biggest thing is getting them to talk about themselves.. nail your approach first.. one thing that most normal people do is they love to talk about themself.. start there and it should be good to go from there.

lol what an interesting thread!

Step 1) Get yourself some Axe body spray. Girls love that shit. I know they do, the commercials tell me so. Spray it all over your body until you smell like a Puerto Rican jiggalo named Rodrigo. No offense to any Puerto Ricans in here. Or any jiggalos. Or anyone named Rodrigo. Girls will follow you around and tackle you to the ground just to smell you if you wear that stuff.

Step 2) Get yourself some David D'angelo tapes. They teach you how to be the jerk that women love. They absolutely love being talked down to, treated badly, and most importantly, beat up. Get yourself a nice tank top to wear when beating your woman, it reminds them of home..

If all else fails, act like a gangster.

Cory,

if your hoping I or anyone else will give you an answer so that you can one day wake up and be Hugh Hefner, not gonna happen.

Pm sent, enjoy!

you look gr8 blanko and the girl with you is she some celb or somethin ? she sure look like one.

Yea We should Start a PUA (Pick Up Artist ) chat in MIRC

irc.*************

#PUA

Originally Posted by blanko

Nevarc,
Is my pic super cool....I bet you have no idea who she is...haha

Is that the chick from Paramore?
Looks like you got a psycho fangirl in the background about to bite you.


Speaking from a girl's perspective here about the ignoring the lady you're interested in, some girls might take the bait, but others will just get pissed off you're ignoring them, or worse - not even notice. Chances are if you don't look like Quasi modo and act like a complete asshole, there'll always be some chick with her eye on you, you just need to notice. It's all about finding your target audience.

are you looking for a fling or something more?

an ignoring contest, you think that will work? um, girls have been ignoring you all this time and they'll continue to ignore you unless you offer them something they can put their trust in. Unless of course, you're looking for a fling.

'...Some good advice already posted, some not so good. One vital change to your MySpace page is change the 'I don't want kids'. All women want kids. It is what they are built for and instinctively they are drawn to men who will make excellent fathers. That means the nurd who loves kids, plays with kids and the kids love him will always be a magnet for women, way ahead of the cool dude who goes around saying, 'Kids, me? Got too many shagging years left to settle down and have kids'.

Personally I didn't want kids, haven't any and will never have any, but you just don't say that.

On your MySpace page, better to put, 'Yes, with the right girl' or some other soppy sentiment. They will love you for it...literally!

themagician

Use the black hat approach, do it in bulk, rinse and repeat. Of course lie when necessary.

When I was a teenager I use to hit on just about every single girl I thought was hot. I got my no's and I got my yes's, but I was getting tons of ass. I was getting so many phone numbers I didn't even have time to call all of them. I was only calling the hottest and the one's that sounded the most interesting. The rest of the numbers I'd just toss.

Fast forward to early twenties. The internet got big. I used the same bulk approach on the internet and was averaging one new notch to my belt a week and was getting ass daily, usually a different chick every day.

Fast forward to mid twenties to late twenties. Got caught cheating 700000 times, had a kid, settled down.

The point is use a bulk approach. You'll get your no's, you'll get your yes's, but you'll get some pussy.

One more thing that the others haven't mentioned yet. Don't EVER believe that girls and boys can be friends. Not a fucking chance. In a "relationship" like that either the boy or in some rare cases the girl wants something more from the other one, but they can't fuck, "BECAUSE THEY'RE FRIENDS". If a girl says to you that she wants you to be a friend of her, look for another girl. Seriously, life is short, don't spend time on something that's not related to 1. fucking 2. making money 3. fun.

Originally Posted by Essential Clix

Step 1) Get yourself some Axe body spray. Girls love that shit. I know they do, the commercials tell me so. Spray it all over your body until you smell like a Puerto Rican jiggalo named Rodrigo. No offense to any Puerto Ricans in here. Or any jiggalos. Or anyone named Rodrigo. Girls will follow you around and tackle you to the ground just to smell you, if you wear that stuff.

Step 2) Get yourself some David D'angelo tapes. They teach you how to be the jerk that women love. They absolutely love being talked down to, treated badly, and most importantly, beat up. Get yourself a nice tank top to wear when beating your woman, it reminds them of home..

If all else fails, act like a gangster.

Classic...you're killing me. I was actually ready to kill myself for wasting 4 minutes of my life that I'll never get back reading this thread. That post made it all worthwhile.

lol. you look too young to have a GF..

First off I assume that you are going to get out of your car at the fair, so she will never see it, and will not know what you drive.

You will also not walk around with a print out of your myspace page so nothing there will make a difference at the fair.

I have never had a break in my life where I did not have a choice of many ladies to call at a time, so here is my advice to you.

Here is what you do tomorrow for the fair. Dress yourself up to look good. If you have any girlfriends wear the shit that they said you looked good in before, or ask there advice. If not just do your best. Don't wear anything too stuffy, just look your age. No damb sports gear unless you are looking for a hoodie.

Remember that a girl is only going to be interested if you are confident, decent looking, and friendly (funny helps). Be all of those. Confidence is a big one. Go with a few friends, and have fun without worrying about finding someone.

While you are hanging out, and waiting in line keep you eyes out for the people watching you. Those are the ones that you can get easily. Those are the girls that like your looks,and so far how you act. Smile at them, and summons them your way. If they act shy you can approach them, or take your group to their group. Here is where I recommend going with a few guys your age to the fair. This way if she has friends they will be distracted also. Make sure they have the same plan you do. Do not bring the friends that dress like bums, act like idiots, or you know are going to mess this up. If you have no choice then make sure you separate yourself from them when you approach her.

Then don't be corny. Just ask her her name, and go from there.

There is going to be so many variables at this point I will leave it up to you. If she does not bite, move on. If she does then remember be confident but friendly. There is a fine like to not look desperate vs uninterested.Like the posts above state girls want to have someone interested in them, but they do not need another psycho boyfriend. Just smile, laugh, and be your confident self.

The fair is a perfect pick up spot. You have allot of girls that have the same plan as you right now. These girls are all available in one way or another.

So good luck. Shit your 20. You play it right, and you may be driving her home, or to a motel after. Then she can see your car, your big wad in your wallet, and your big wad in your pants.

Originally Posted by MaestroDelWeb

Use the black hat approach, do it in bulk, rinse and repeat. Of course lie when necessary.

LMAO...MaestroDelWeb is right. It's a numbers game. It is imperative that you possess enough confidence to be able to accept rejection. However, right along with rejection comes acceptance. If a chick won't give you the time of day, fuck her and feed her rocks (figuratively of course). Move along to the next chick who just might say yes. Don't get discouraged. You fail to succeed if you fail to try.

I am female so listen...even if I am old !

Read all the David DeAngelo (Eben Pagan) stuff you can get a hold of. He is right on the mark.

Dress nicely...if you dress roughly thats what you will attract. Clean hair and fingernails etc. Good aftershave and subtle but enough that a female can smell it when standing near you.
Females love a sense of humor above all.
Don't try to be too cool because they will know you are "trying"...just be yourself. But it is a good idea to be stand offish! Trying too hard comes through as desperate and women hate that. Women love a challenge as much as men.
Unfortunately you do need a nice car....not talking Ferrari but nice....and clean inside.
These are all just basics but one other thing you are not going to attract anyone on Myspace by saying you don't want children. Deep down inside EVERY woman, she wants them. Its primed into us by nature....that is even if she says she doesn't...SHE DOES !....believe me.

Many males are looking for the "prom queen" and females the "jock" but life is not like that. Start looking at the females you previously would not consider....try and I say try...you being male to look past the looks alone. There are great girls out there who would love to be with you.

And for those of you out there who think women consider you for what is in your pants...give me a break !


PS Forgot.....confidence, confidence,confidence !

I forgot to mention a big one.

LOWER YOUR STANDARDS.

If you can't get hot chicks, get a chubby one with a pretty face or an ugly one with a hot body. Usually they have better personalities anyway and they are less likely to dump you or talk back.

Once you're getting some, you can start to pick and choose. You can always upgrade, but you need to be kept entertained until you decide the one you have is obsolete.

Start a band, be a rock star....that'll get ya the ladies...

You need to approach with the neutral attitude like you're not interested. Very important. Don't give any compliments or other shit like that. Later, once you get past the hello's and names and get to "regular conversation", you need to start with the touchy feely shit.

By this I mean just make it seem like it's your personality to touch a lot. Touch her arm. Touch her knee when you are talking to her (and I don't mean bend over and touch her knee, you know, I mean if you are sitting down!).

Because later if you move in for the kiss or try and touch her later in the night, it's going to feel awkward. Just keep touching and feeling. Trust me if it's going right it will all feel natural when you want to take it to the next level.

Originally Posted by blackrainbow

Is that the chick from Paramore?
Looks like you got a psycho fangirl in the background about to bite you.

Yep, that is hayley from paramore, she's my future wife, haha

Here are some good things that have landed me over 300 women in my short lifetime.

Well really the first thing is be ridiculously good looking, but if you don't have that going for you these should help.

1. Don't be a needy bitch... man up.

2. Don't be a slob.

3. Be the center of attention but not in an obnoxious way.

4. Never break eye contact with a girl first.

5. For god sakes take control of the situation.

6. Act like you have a million different options even if you don't.

7. Don't have a mustache.

8. Don't laugh at your own jokes. If you laugh at your own jokes and she doesn't it shows you are a total toolbag and insecure because you were trying to fuel others laughter with your own.

9. I always like to approach girls and ask them what the cheesiest lines they've heard in their life are. Sounds stupid but it breaks the ice. Then after they tell me I always throw out a couple really corny ones that get em laughing. Usually they have a sexual overtone to them to show em I'm not afraid to let that cat out of the bag quickly.

10. Be consistent. Girls are constantly testing you to see if you are inconsistent.

11. Never be sorry. This sounds harsh, but don't apologize for being a man who lives his life the way he wants. Girls will respect you for not taking shit.

12. Along with 11, don't take shit. If a girl doesn't act right, let her know that doesn't fly with you. She will likely test you after that, but stand your ground. I'm telling you, she will appreciate you for it.

13. You are the prize, now start acting like it. Girls are the ones who should be fighting over you, not the other way around. Stop putting the girl up on this mantle like she is some goddess.

14. Depending on the type of girl, be immature in a mature way. All the things that were tits in 4th grade are tits again. I recently re-introduced the pen15 club at a bar last week and girls were eating it up. Its just a fun thing to break the ice. Once you get a girl laughing a feeling comfortable with you, your in.

15. Realize you will probably be rejected tons of times in your lifetime, but who gives a shit you'll probably never see that chick again in your life.

16. If a girl calls you, act like you are busy even if you are just sitting on your ass watching TV and eating potato chips (which you shouldn't be doing in the first place). Girls don't like boring guys, if you have the appearance of being busy thats a good thing. I always like to say, "Yah maybe we can hang out later on when I'm done with the stuff I'm working on." Haha, my GF has kinda caught on to that one and calls me out every once in a while.

17. Body language pretty much tells a girl if you have a shred of confidence or not. Work on your posture. Get the Alexander Method, it works wonders. A strong dominant posture says a ton about your confidence levels even if your inner self doesn't reflect it.

All in all... you don't have to have a ton of money or be good looking. Sure that stuff helps, but girls are looking for a real man that will lead them. One that has a plan and doesn't break that plan for anyone. Take control, lead her, and be the boss and she will love you.

I'm sure I missed some stuff but that'll give you a general guideline.



P.S. For gods sake stop eating foods that encourage production of estrogen in your body. I'm telling you that men are becoming more and more of complete wussys everyday and that is a big part of it. I'm not saying go take some HGH shots or something stupid, but foods can have a real affect on your success in that area.

damn son!! over 10,000 friends on myspace.. I dont think u got a problem..

Originally Posted by blanko

Nevarc,
Is my pic super cool....I bet you have no idea who she is...haha

Nice Blanko!! Hayley Williams!!!! Damn I'd like to hit that! What'd you do with her?

Seems cool as shit too...Tight little 19 year old redhead that can sing something fierce.

Anyway, dude, Corey, FUNNY TRUMPS ALL.

I have a friend that is the ugliest mother f'er you'd ever meet.

No joke, his nickname in college was FUME (F'in Ugliest Man Ever)

The guy could make anyone laugh though and all sorts of chicks from goth freaks to preppy uptight bitches would warm up to him inside of 5 minutes cause he'd make them laugh and make them feel like the center of the universe for 5 minutes.

Just be yourself but be your funniest self and make chicks laugh and feel comfortable. Then go in for the kill.

Watching Swingers a few times should help too. "She's just like this little bunny, who's just kinda cowering in the corner. "

That's all she is.

Man, just finished reading Smitty's post...

Hell yea, that's the Man's Bible right there.

Smack that on your bedroom wall and memorize it!

Originally Posted by smitty5168

1. Don't be a needy bitch... man up.

11. Never be sorry. This sounds harsh, but don't apologize for being a man who lives his life the way he wants. Girls will respect you for not taking shit.

12. Along with 11, don't take shit. If a girl doesn't act right, let her know that doesn't fly with you. She will likely test you after that, but stand your ground. I'm telling you, she will appreciate you for it.

13. You are the prize, now start acting like it. Girls are the ones who should be fighting over you, not the other way around. Stop putting the girl up on this mantle like she is some goddess.

Excellent post smitty, couldn't have said it better myself. Unfortunately, most guys act the opposite of what women want.
Ask any girl what she's looking for in a man and they will say they're "looking for a nice guy." Yeah right! That's why they go running back to the same jerks. You don't have to be a jerk, though. Just take smitty's advice which is pretty much in line with David DeAngelos stuff.