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Old 11-19-2009, 07:03 PM
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Default Referer Guardian: Referer Cloaking - Launching December 2nd!

My company, blackhatzen, is launching a new product and have gotten a thumb's up from HaRRo to post a pre-sale announcement here at BHW.

The product is called Referer Guardian and it is launching on December 2nd. Referer Guardian is a plugin for WordPress that will allow you to fake or blank the source of your traffic through any WordPress site with ease. No editing code. No magic numbers. Simply upload, activate, create links through WordPress's admin panel, and you've got cloaked traffic.

Sign-up for a launch announcement on the site to receive a $15 discount at launch. This discount will bring the total price down to only $24.97. This discount will be available to everyone who signs up through the launch site until December 2nd.


If you decide to purchase Referer Guardian on December 2nd, you'll get what you've come to expect from blackhatzen:
  • A high-quality product that doesn't limit your creativity and lets you expand your business.
  • Amazing support either one-on-one via email and our with our customers through our product support forums.
  • Free, fast updates for the life of the product.
  • The option to help mold the product into the tool that you need.

If you have any questions or comments, feel free to either post them here, PM me, or email us from the sales page.

Thanks for your time,
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Default Re: Referer Guardian: Referer Cloaking - Launching December 2nd!

Looks good.

Have you or do you plan on working on a UA changer?

I know it can be done but it appears to be a closely guarded secret.
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Looks good.

Have you or do you plan on working on a UA changer?

I know it can be done but it appears to be a closely guarded secret.
Thanks for the comment.

I haven't personally looked into changing the UA on the client-side. It is certainly something that we can research though. It is easy if you're firing connections FROM a server with a headless agent like cURL, but I'm not sure how easy it would be to change this on the client-side; I suspect not easy at all.
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Default Re: Referer Guardian: Referer Cloaking - Launching December 2nd!

I've seen it done to protect peoples affiliate accounts when using purchased traffic from companys that throw a dirty UA.

When a dirty adware UA came up, it was changed and the affiliate company saw a clean UA.

There is some HUGE potential there.
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I've seen it done to protect peoples affiliate accounts when using purchased traffic from companys that throw a dirty UA.

When a dirty adware UA came up, it was changed and the affiliate company saw a clean UA.

There is some HUGE potential there.
Interesting. I'll look into it.
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Default Re: Referer Guardian: Referer Cloaking - Launching December 2nd!

I've received a few PM's asking what the price will be once Referer Guardian is posted in BHW's BST section. The price will be $29.97 once it is posted here. The price will then slowly increase after that, just as with our other products.

If you've ever been interested in buying WP Guardian, do it before December 2nd, because you'll be eligible for a $20 off customer discount for Referer Guardian at launch.
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Default Re: Referer Guardian: Referer Cloaking - Launching December 2nd!

Man, how you so cool? I was working on coding something that did this. But I'm crappy at it, so I'm probably going to scrap that and get this. Professional > Lex.
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Man, how you so cool? I was working on coding something that did this. But I'm crappy at it, so I'm probably going to scrap that and get this. Professional > Lex.
Thanks. If you ever need any help or guidance programming plugins for WordPress, hit me up.
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Thanks, olden! That means a lot. I finally get to try out the thanks button...
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oldenstylehats congratulation on launching another successful product that would be much in demand... now I understand that this is obviously desired by many noobs out there who find it too hard to insert some php code into an index file, and it's great that you make it so easy and convenient... but I have a suggestion for an awesome product that would be REALLY REALLY useful to pretty much everyone involved in some sort of BH IM...

And that would be... AFFILIATE ID GUARDIAN! Yes! Now wouldn't that be awesome? Because right now if someone wants to find out your affiliate ID... they can do so with ease.. relatively... even if you use iframe and cloak the address bar link, they can still get your affiliate ID... now I know that this is something that's much harder than faking the referer... but this would be EXTREMELY popular and I would be very happy to pay SUBSTANTIALLY more $$$ for such product, I'm sure many others will agree.

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oldenstylehats congratulation on launching another successful product that would be much in demand... now I understand that this is obviously desired by many noobs out there who find it too hard to insert some php code into an index file, and it's great that you make it so easy and convenient... but I have a suggestion for an awesome product that would be REALLY REALLY useful to pretty much everyone involved in some sort of BH IM...

And that would be... AFFILIATE ID GUARDIAN! Yes! Now wouldn't that be awesome? Because right now if someone wants to find out your affiliate ID... they can do so with ease.. relatively... even if you use iframe and cloak the address bar link, they can still get your affiliate ID... now I know that this is something that's much harder than faking the referer... but this would be EXTREMELY popular and I would be very happy to pay SUBSTANTIALLY more $$$ for such product, I'm sure many others will agree.

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I haven't tested on all browsers, but you could effectively do something like this with Referer Guardian, though, at the end of the day, if someone really wants to find out and knows what they are doing, they will *always* be able to find out your affiliate ID if it is being passed along to the browser. At some point in time, their browser has to connect to your affiliate link for you to get credit.

I'll make sure to include a guide showing how to do this in the instructions that come with Referer Guardian.
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oh man. i need this like today. any chance of an earlier release?
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oh man. i need this like today. any chance of an earlier release?
I suppose it is possible, but with Thanksgiving (and related traveling) next week, pretty unlikely. Initially, it was going to be released next Thursday (ON Thanksgiving) because someone (me) is horrible about the dates of major US holidays.

I'll post here and email the announce list if that is going to be the case.
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just for the record here, iv been helping olden with coding and testing on this, and well... its another bhz product guys, do i really need to keep typing? signup already if you have a use for it on your sites, its as simple as that lol
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ok. awesome. can't wait!!!!
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Default Re: Referer Guardian: Referer Cloaking - Launching December 2nd!

I paid for Wp Guard + Ref Guardian previously. With regards to the product, I'm sure it will deliver.

What DOES set this apart is the INSANE support and great after sales provided. Olden was very patient in going out of his capacity to help me with any problems i had with the product etc.

I recommend this to anyone remotely interested. Looking forward to 2nd Dec or earlier (I Hope! )
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Default Re: Referer Guardian: Referer Cloaking - Launching December 2nd!

I've just confirmed that we'll be including geoip targeting and easy link rotation along with Referer Guardian 1.0. It'll be redundant for those already using WP Guardian, but not for everyone else.

Let me know if you folks have any questions.
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Glad to see the that you are almost done with this masterpiece - oldenstylehats.
I had the pleasure to provide a very small fraction to this product :-)
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Is this more than just a double meta refresh?

Can you offer more information on how it excels over a DMR?
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Is this more than just a double meta refresh?

Can you offer more information on how it excels over a DMR?
DMR is for blanking and doesn't work very well with modern browsers that have security features that stop them from being forced to send an empty HTTP REFERER. Referer Guardian is more about cloaking/changing the apparent source of the traffic, which is much more acceptable to most companies you'd be pushing traffic to than a blank referer. We'll have a blanking option available, but the idea is to create a second "white hat" webpage that it appears that traffic is coming from. This will lead to less questions about traffic sources in the long run than simply blanking the referer.
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Hmm, so aside from your awesome support (don't want to downplay this as it seems fantastic), how does this differ from the CPA Redirector plugin? And really, I'm not trying to bust any balls here. Just curious.

You think in the near future we might see a faker that can use any given site as its referral, not just a WP site?
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Hmm, so aside from your awesome support (don't want to downplay this as it seems fantastic), how does this differ from the CPA Redirector plugin? And really, I'm not trying to bust any balls here. Just curious.

You think in the near future we might see a faker that can use any given site as its referral, not just a WP site?
We could definitely provide a standalone version to customers. We're taking the WP route simply for ease-of-use. Inserting the code is where quite a few people have issues.

Before I get into the comparisons between Referer Guardian and CPA Redirector, I just want to make it clear that I think Brad is a great developer and I commend him for providing a free solution.

The big differences between Referer Guardian and CPA Redirector will be GeoIP redirection, easy link rotation, updates based on customer feedback, the support (as you so kindly mentioned), and no need for editing any code. I think the third item (updates) is where the two plugins will begin to differentiate themselves. We're very receptive to adding in new features based on demand. Most of the new features that have been added to Forum Generator and WP Guardian have come directly from customer feedback.

If you know what you're doing and can code your own features, CPA Redirector may be the best choice for you. If you're new to the game, prefer a little more automation, want to see your ideas implemented in future versions, or want to know that you've got a support team to help if/when you need it, look for Referer Guardian on December 2nd.
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Default Re: Referer Guardian: Referer Cloaking - Launching December 2nd!

Hey, you stated:

"I've just confirmed that we'll be including geoip targeting and easy link rotation along with Referer Guardian 1.0. It'll be redundant for those already using WP Guardian, but not for everyone else.

Let me know if you folks have any questions."


Does WP Guardian already come with all the features of this product? or am i just being confused.


Can you please sum up the difference between WP guardian and Ref guardian.

Thanks.
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WP Guardian and Referer Guardian are very different products. I was just stating that redirection based on GeoIP and link rotation would be redundant between the two products. WP Guardian is a CPA gateway for getting people to fill out CPA offers to get content on your blog. Referer Guardian is a traffic cloaking tool to change the referer of your outbound traffic to look as if it is coming from another site you control.
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Default Re: Referer Guardian: Referer Cloaking - Launching December 2nd!

Now this looks promising!
Blanking AND faking the referrer woohoo!
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If i bought WP Guardian and ReffereR Guardian(10$) i will get update to this too right?
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If i bought WP Guardian and ReffereR Guardian(10$) i will get update to this too right?
Yes. All people that purchased the Referer Guardian add-on will receive a free copy of Referer Guardian standalone. All WP Guardian customers are eligible to receive a copy of Referer Guardian for $19.97.
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Default Re: Referer Guardian: Referer Cloaking - Launching December 2nd!

If you are even remotely interested in buying a copy of Referer Guardian at $24.97, make sure you sign-up now. The launch is in ~48 hours. It will be posted on BHW at launch for $29.97. $5.00 isn't a large amount of money, but why spend more if you don't have to?

We've verified during testing that Referer Guardian will work wonderfully as the source for an iframe in almost every browser. We even tested with CakeSlice. We've verified that as long as the user has Javascript installed and operational, Ref Guardian will work. We even tested it on really old browsers like IE 5.01 without having any issues.

Since starting testing, not once has the real source of the click leaked. We're about to push this into overdrive by dropping an iframe on a page that gets hundreds of thousands of hits per day to really put it to the test. This is the real deal. Referer Guardian will have all of the features you need to cloak your traffic.
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this guy makes great stuff. I would jump on this guys, his support is almost as good as products :P
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Check out our most recent blog post for an interesting discovery we made during heavy-duty iframe testing yesterday.
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Default Re: Referer Guardian: Referer Cloaking - Launching December 2nd!

Fellow BHWers, Oldenstylehats just stated that he is going through a power outage at his house and he is unable to do much of anything. Due to this he may not be able to launch *on time* but he will launch as soon as he has power for more than a few minutes.

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We here at blackhatzen have to apologize. Our home state of Pennsylvania got rocked by some serious storms this evening. Rocked so hard, in fact, that we lost power here at blackhatzen manor until just before 4:30AM. Obviously, we didn't launch on time, and that sucks, but chaos will be chaos and over the years we've learned to embrace this sort of thing as a sign that we are indeed still living in a universe that is, for the most part, completely out of our control. Either that or we just have really bad luck and need to buy a back-up generator ... or move back into civilization where we can get 3G reception without having to scale mountains... whatever.

The long and tall of it is that we're going to launch Referer Guardian at 2PM EST today. Fifteen hours later than we anticipated, but we need to get some sleep and no one likes reading email early in the morning anyway.

Thanks for understanding.
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How do the existing customers get the $20 off discount? I would like to purchase.
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How do the existing customers get the $20 off discount? I would like to purchase.
You should have received an email within the last 30 minutes or so. If you didn't, PM me your email address and I'll hook you up.
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