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Old 11-16-2009, 04:53 PM
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http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&ved=0CAgQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.googlesux.com%2F&rct=j&q=google+sucks&ei=ko0BS6edCIT94AaDkd2EDA&usg=AFQjCNHhc-z92V-OClI477YwQJGhTrSGLg
This will make it seem like the user found your site on google. Not sure how this could be useful to anybody. Just quite alot of info on this site in faking referer.
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Default Re: Using google as a referer

Can you explain how to create such link? Simply replacing url doesnt seem to work and on the linked page I cant find any tutorial. So how is this link created?

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Default Re: Using google as a referer

hey this is gold if it really works, explain more in detail how this is done or even possible...
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yeah. i can think of 100 uses for this if it works.
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Default Re: Using google as a referer

I don't have the time to write a script atm...but you see all the links on the google search pages, they're not the direct link to the site...you go through a middle url provided by google...so if your site comes up in google then it's a matter of directing your users exactly to that link...so google will take the url in query string and redirect the user to it, thus setting the reffer as google, more precisley google search. i think the links expire after some time elapsed not sure whether it's hours or days, someone can write a script to generate the links hourly or daily depending on the expiring value....or i could be talking crap, try it yourself...google something, right hand click the link and copy it to somewhere...you'll see it's a google url....only tested on FF
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Hm. Im using FF3. The results in google are direct links for me. I searched the sourcecode but didnt found a link thats similiar to the one you posted.
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Ok, I found the problem... it only works at google.com...

Hm... I need to find out how this link is put together...
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It is first a normal link and is building the other link when copying the link or clicking...

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Default Re: Using google as a referer

this is how you fake the referer to google

http://referer.us/f/?url=http%3A%2F%...www.google.com
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this is how you fake the referer to google

http://referer.us/f/?url=http%3A%2F%...www.google.com
lol i hope your joking...if not try checking the actual request and response data there is no referer header set.
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this is how you fake the referer to google

http://referer.us/f/?url=http%3A%2F%...www.google.com
How should that work? I tested it a bit with referer.us in conjunction to www.whatismyreferrer.com but I didnt get a result. Wouldnt know too how it should work... Without a script at google that does the redirect it wouldnt work.

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doesnt work
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Default Re: Using google as a referer

Goto google.com
type your domain name press enter

when it shows your site in the google listing click on it. Google then redirects to your site.
One you click on the link copy above code shown in the mozilla browser. I just appears for 1-2 seconds before getting redirected to your site

here is the code of blackhatworld
http://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&sou...866JyKRphvrbgg
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Default Re: Using google as a referer

no it doesn't. it goes straight to the link. right click it and press copy link location and you will see. You can look at the source and see that as well
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Default Re: Using google as a referer

@WImpact: You do it from Google.com using the steps mentioned above. Remember it just appears for 1-2 seconds before redirecting to your website
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Default Re: Using google as a referer

No it doesn't. it only appears on sublinks which are useless and dont lead to your main site.
Also after dissambaling the link it comes out to

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sourc...77YwQJGhTrSGLg

and the actual encryption that sets off the alarm is

&usg=AFQjCNHhc-z92V-OClI477YwQJGhTrSGLg

So if you know that encryption, you can redirect any url.

i dont see any use in this anyways. if you want to fake referrer then you should fake it to the search query

example:

Code:
http://www.google.com/search?q=blackhatworld&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
since that is the ACTUAL referrer which is logged.


here is what I mean

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http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=k2R&nfpr=1&ei=q4MdS8DkJseWtgeDvsDSAw&sa=X&oi=spell_nofullpage&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&ved=0CAYQBSgA&q=check+your+referrer&spell=1
Go there and click the first link, and you will see that the refferer is the search term

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Your example will show

Code:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&ved=0CAcQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fclub60.org%2Ftestref.php&rct=j&q=check+your+referrer&ei=7YUdS6ndNpbCmgODn6FH&usg=AFQjCNFg7DODUYgV1lzrg4tKIr2A1ZYOQg
as the Referrer when google is using this trackinglinks.

And it shows this

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http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=check+your+referrer&btnG=Search&aq=f&oq=&aqi=
when its using the normal one.

So its a legit referrer.

But I dont see a way to use this. Only possible if a site is indexed for a given keyword. Then should it be possible to use a script, type the keyword in, get the trackinglink and reuse it. But it would be simple for google to find out your using your trackingscript more often than normal.

And if you have a site thats not indexed for a keyword it seems to me you have no chance to get the trackinglink. Because the link is produced through a function which needs vars that are coded. That means without the codes you cant get your trackinglink on your own.

So I dont think this is useable... Too bad...

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No this is perfect for blackhat traffic on cpa links. When you run cl offers you can hide your traffic by changing the referer to the google search one. So they cant complain when they see that you are promoting them using whitehat traffic.
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So how would you do this? Using a site that is indexed for a special keyword? And get the trackinglink from there?

I mean when you have a site loanexample.com which is indexed in google for the searchterm loan then you can get a google trackinglink to that site. You could use this for CL. 2 Problems remain. Google will be suspicious when you use it too often and too long and it would always be the same referrer. So you should spread the keyword that is used.

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Default Re: Using google as a referer

You can build a simple php script that alternates the referrer every x amount of visits. Then you preload the referrer links and let it run. The networks will see this as organic traffic from google and will be less likely to get you banned.
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That would be possible. Unfortunately this only works as long as the targetpage is indexed for the keywords you want to use. And you would be limited. Normal logs shows google from different countries, ips, get-vars and so on.
But its useable.

Too bad its not working for keywords and sites that arent indexed... Then I could have used it...

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Most of my sites get indexed after like 1 day of spam. Soon as google sees 2-3k people visiting it a day, they index it.
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yeah. i can think of 100 uses for this if it works.
Hey, could you give some examples of the uses you have in mind after we get it working?
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Hey, could you give some examples of the uses you have in mind after we get it working?
WImpat mentioned one. If you can let others belief a visitor comes from google and in reality he came from a site you wont let them know of then its something worth isnt it?
Im sure some things come to your mind...

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Default Re: Using google as a referer

If the refer shows as google
it means visitors search some thing on google and click on a link and then they go to offer page

Then where is your website ??

I mean is that possible to promote a Link in Google search engine and receive traffic to a link that is going to redirect to another page ?
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your website isn't anywhere, it appears as if the visitors came from ads or organic traffic
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If the refer shows as google
it means visitors search some thing on google and click on a link and then they go to offer page

Then where is your website ??

I mean is that possible to promote a Link in Google search engine and receive traffic to a link that is going to redirect to another page ?
Normally:

Google -> Your Website

Of Course your Site has to be indexed.

Now google seems to test some trackinglinks. Which means:
Google -> Trackinglink -> Your Website

You can get visitors normally through googlesearch.

But you can copy this Trackinglink from google.

If you now have a spammy website where the visitors should go to the ads on "Your Website" you dont want to have that the Ad-company see that these visitors come from your spammy website.

So you dont link the spammy website directly to your website but instead link it like this:

Spammy Website -> Trackinglink -> Your Website
or
Spammy Website -> Some metarefresh -> Trackinglink -> Your Website

Now the ad-company see a referrallink that says... this visitor comes from google. And I think such traffic will be liked...

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This can be used in many ways using one gateway url.Just keep rotating the offers on the indexed page. so for example you got indexed for a loan offer, there is nothing stopping you putting any other offer such as a rental offer...get indexed once use many...or have your script be smart and depending on the query string passed to it display a different offer.

Edit: oh sorry, ignore this post

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Normally:

Google -> Your Website

Of Course your Site has to be indexed.

Now google seems to test some trackinglinks. Which means:
Google -> Trackinglink -> Your Website

You can get visitors normally through googlesearch.

But you can copy this Trackinglink from google.

If you now have a spammy website where the visitors should go to the ads on "Your Website" you dont want to have that the Ad-company see that these visitors come from your spammy website.

So you dont link the spammy website directly to your website but instead link it like this:

Spammy Website -> Trackinglink -> Your Website
or
Spammy Website -> Some metarefresh -> Trackinglink -> Your Website

Now the ad-company see a referrallink that says... this visitor comes from google. And I think such traffic will be liked...

Greetings!
Sebastian

No i mean
when a visitor come to your website www.good.com and then they click on a link and they go to offer website, the advertiser see the www.good.com as a referer, No matter if you have fake it or its your own website

but when they see the referer as google.com/search-quary that means the visitors didnt visit your website and when they clicked on the link they went to offer page directly

is that right or wrong ? i am not sure
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The Advertiser would see www.good.com as the site where the visitor came from to the advertisers site. But thats ok because you have to use the affiliatelink to get money from advertiser.

The thing is that affiliatecompanies can track on your www.good.com where the visitor came from to www.good.com. So if he came from the spammy website to your good site the advertiser is sending you a ad. But at the same time he is tracking where your visitor came from. Normally they use 1x1-images or similar for that.

And this way they can ban an account when they see they came from spammy website.

By using the google trackinglink you would send them from spammy website to www.good.com. The Ad appears and reads the referrer and its google... not the spammy site...

The trackinglink cant be used to directly link to an advertisers page because you dont find a trackinglink for that.
And it only works for your own websites when they are indexed for a certain searchkey. Because every trackinglink is different per searchkey and domain.

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yeah. i can think of 100 uses for this if it works.
Me too angelas111.....
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