Originally Posted by lesaurus

Have the ability to spin the anchor text. Gaining loads of backlinks with exactlly the same anchor text does not look good/natural which is what this program is trying to achieve.

Yes, you can spin the anchor text. I did and the blog postings pretty much all had different anchor texts from each other. You could always disable your campaign and resubmit with the spun version to get unique anchor texts.

Using it and have good 40 links for last 5 days with 5 pages from site. Also have several links pointing to articles and squidoo. You get one month free, and I am sold. Hope everyone gives it a try. The more sign up, the more it helps all of us using this system.

Oh ok the anchor text thing is cool. Didn't realise that. I was thinking last night that
to get round the inability to vary the destination URL maybe you could just copy the spinnner text to another campaign and then change the URL. There
at be some dupe content then but it would stop you having to write new text for each one.

Someone said about "links to the links" these second tier links will actually be the social bookmarking links to the articles, not articles to articles. To do that I Spode you would just go into one of your reports, find one of your newly submitted articles and then set up a new campaign with that as the destination.

Ok, after one week with the system, here it is my review:

PROS
1) generally, this tool is very good, and the linkwheel system is very good.

2) for one whitehat site I've, with this system, I jumped from page 2 on google to page 1, position 4!!

3) Link building speed is perfect for google, and it really works.

CONS
1) well, there's always cons. The system is limited to 50 campaigns (which means 50 sites), but only 20 links a day, which means that only 20 campaigns will receive 1 link each day. I understand this, because of system resources, but it's a no no for many blackhaters who build dozens of sites a day.

2) Review submissions. I think the system should review submissions and have some kind of filter to block bad submissions. For example, today I saw one submission that had a { missing, and the resulting submission was looking too SPAMMY:

"Read more:Trivani International|Trivani Products|Trivani Sponsor a Child|Trivani Scam?|Trivani Utah|Trivani Springville|Trivani|Trivani Com}"

it's obvious that this guy forgot the { and the system let it pass, it shouldn't.

That's it for now. This system is growing, new web 2.0 properties will be added, which means more links daily (not the 20 limit). I think for the future, this tool will be one of the best I'ver seen. For now, is quite good.

Classification: 3.8 (in 5)

Last note: People using this system, should build their campaigns carefully, please double check your texts for errors and typos!

I just wanna add, I've been using it for a week now.

Since I only use white hat for my clients, I'm a little worried at the link velocity, but I've adjusted that down to very low to compensate. For one of my clients websites, it went from #10 to #5 for a term that gets 90K searches a month, which I can safely attribute to this.

I like it, and will probably continue paying as long as it stays adult free and people continue using it properly.

i have 33 links so far after a week of use, one campaign running.

Originally Posted by jnelson563

I just wanna add, I've been using it for a week now.

Since I only use white hat for my clients, I'm a little worried at the link velocity, but I've adjusted that down to very low to compensate. For one of my clients websites, it went from #10 to #5 for a term that gets 90K searches a month, which I can safely attribute to this.

I like it, and will probably continue paying as long as it stays adult free and people continue using it properly.

Totally agree with you jnelson. Like i said in my review, this is a very good tool, that with time will evolve to the best tool i'ver seen. Every dollar paid is worthy!

0 links after about 5 days :|

Yeah how long does it take to 'start rolling'? Waited a few days nothing so far...

Originally Posted by nufaman

EDIT: just saw your reply. What's the use of an "indirect link", whatever that means? I want to gather link to my site, not to some random guy's blog

The "what's the use" question has answers all over the Internet where link building is explained, so I won't do it here. There's more than one way to build backlinks. The Link Juicer uses one. It is not the only one. It may not be the best one for you.

If all you want is direct bookmarks to your site then you are using the wrong tool. What The Link Juicer does is link to your site from a variety of web 2.0 properties not just bookmarks. Some are blogs. Then it bookmarks the blogs. The link juice passes from the bookmarks to the blogs to your site. This allows us to create far more links in the network without looking spammy. That's all. If you don't get it, then read up on the Halbertizer or Goolelizer methods.

Originally Posted by lesaurus

I have been using this for two weeks now. What Would really make this a lot better is the following.

1 the ability to vary the destination URL.

This is planned and will be rolled out in a few days.

Originally Posted by lesaurus

2 Have the ability to spin the anchor text. Gaining loads of backlinks with exactlly the same anchor text does not look good/natural which is what this program is trying to achieve.

You can do this, as I think another member has pointed this out.

Originally Posted by beav3336

Using it and have good 40 links for last 5 days with 5 pages from site. Also have several links pointing to articles and squidoo. You get one month free, and I am sold. Hope everyone gives it a try. The more sign up, the more it helps all of us using this system.

Thank you! So, please tell every one!

Originally Posted by lesaurus

just go into one of your reports, find one of your newly submitted articles and then set up a new campaign with that as the destination.

One of the strategies laid out in the documentation is to run campaigns on your site but also on ezine articles for example that point to your site. With very little effort you can create quite a web of links.

Originally Posted by xanubi

1) well, there's always cons. The system is limited to 50 campaigns (which means 50 sites), but only 20 links a day, which means that only 20 campaigns will receive 1 link each day. I understand this, because of system resources, but it's a no no for many blackhaters who build dozens of sites a day.

Hopefully we will have more sites and as you rightly pointed out this will mean more links/day. There have been a few people requesting a mega-account where they could have more social media accounts and get more links. This is under consideration. The link velocity will always be limited to a moderate level for obvious reasons.

Originally Posted by xanubi

2) Review submissions. I think the system should review submissions and have some kind of filter to block bad submissions. For example, today I saw one submission that had a { missing, and the resulting submission was looking too SPAMMY:

it's obvious that this guy forgot the { and the system let it pass, it shouldn't.

This has been dealt with. All spun text is cleared of {}'s and all text following the first | is deleted. It may not look like the user wanted but it will eliminate the sort of thing you pointed out.

Thank you for your considered and balanced review.

Originally Posted by hwolfpack6

0 links after about 5 days :|

Contact support.

Originally Posted by googlemonster

Yeah how long does it take to 'start rolling'? Waited a few days nothing so far...

Typically, scheduling is run at 8PM GMT for the following day. If you save a campaign after that, it runs a day later. Since 8PM GMT is quite early in the US (3PM NY, noon LA) a lot of users in those time zones will save their work after the scheduler runs that day. So they save a campaign on Monday night, and links begin to appear only on Wednesday, and if they are unlucky their links show up *late* on Wednesday (it is totally random) so they wonder what's going on.

If it has been over 48 hours and you have NO links, then contact support. Only by looking at your campaign can we answer this type of question.

Originally Posted by nufaman View Post
What's the use of an "indirect link", whatever that means? I want to gather link to my site, not to some random guy's blog

This gives weight and muscle to the link that is pointing to your site by making sure that the link that is pointing directly to your site sits on a page that is indexed.

Make sense?

started working now...

I have 42 links to my site over 5 days, I am happy.

While I can see where my links are posted I cant seem to find them on G**LE.
I use the link:http://................ operator but do not have any results. If I cant see the links
can the bots?
If anyone has any ideas as to hoe I can look up the links then much thanks.
(I used backlinkwatch.com also and no results, except the ones that I posted myself)

nj1485....use the link query that Yahoo provides as they will tell you all links that are actually showing....Google won't and never will.

http://siteexplorer.search.yahoo.com/search?p=yourURL.com&bwm=i&bwmo=&bwmf=s

Thanks pupster.
I tried your suggestion but no luck. I only show 3 links. This is what I am trying to find out.

I went to backlinkwatch .com and put in this domain,provenhemorrhoidtreatment.com. It came back with 42 backlinks,with anchor text for each link and url the backlink is on.It also tells me which domains are no/******** and PR.
When I do this with my domain I get nothing?????? I should show 40 plus links, according to linkjuice.

Who knows???

I figured that.,links not indexed is the problem.

In order to ensure your link gets noticed, maybe once a new one is posted in linkjuice, go to the link and manually submit it to the search engines. This can also be automated of course. This way you ensure your post gets crawled but you have to do more work now. The idea of linkjuice is that you set the campaign and leave it alone.

Waiting for g o o g l e to index you wastes precious time.

I have network of content sites that took me years to built . Took a lot of time and effort , Is it completely safe to promote my sites using linkjuicer?. It is extremely important for me not to get banned by Adsense and Google bot ....I can cry out loud if that happens.

Many Thanks

I tried it for my affiliate site but not on my content site

Originally Posted by nufaman

99% of the pages that are supposed to be linking to my site on linkjuice aren't even indexed

If you log on and get the report for EACH of your campaigns in .csv format (top right of the report table I do believe) you can put all the links from all your campaigns together.

Then take that list and "ping" them with pingler, a script, whatever will do the job (I just wrote a two liner in curl) and they'll index.

Having your own system that does this is very advantageous for a couple reasons.

One, you know the ping happened.
Two, you can control WHEN the ping happens (over time, making it look natural)
Three, you can add in your self created backlinks, etc. and control your own link velocity.

Given the timeframe and from what I've been seeing so far it appears that many of the linkpages are in the G-Dance right now... It won't take long for them to show up. A number of mine are showing up well right now.

Originally Posted by Jmills

I have been using TheLinkJuicer and I have to say I am not very impressed...

I mean, that's great and all to everyone who isn't impressed with this but I think more meaningful feedback would be something like...

You know, I didn't find this useful at all because comparing the linkjuicer to xyz product which does almost the same exact thing and xyz works better because

• Comparison statement 1
• Comparison statement 2
• And so on...

How many days has it been? I see most people shitting bricks after only a few days or so.

As far as creating links, linkjuicer works great. Getting indexed faster is the key here.

4alllifestyles had a great idea as to getting indexed faster.You may have to submit links on your own but linkjuicer posts your urls, so half your work is done.

Originally Posted by nj1485

As far as creating links, linkjuicer works great. Getting indexed faster is the key here.

4alllifestyles had a great idea as to getting indexed faster.You may have to submit links on your own but linkjuicer posts your urls, so half your work is done.

THX for the "you go"....

I think there is a very important point to make here... And that's about PR, link strength, "Juice", as it were, and just what this does.


If you take a PR6 site which has a PR3 page in it and make a link to a PR1 site it looks like this....

PR6 ==>PR3 ==>PR1

Nobody but the Big G knows for certain, but in my own tracking it seems that PR carries through like this...

PR6 (6) ==> PR3 (6+3=9) ==> PR1 (9+1=10) (X "magic unknown G number) raises your own sites PR.

So PR would accumulate down the hopset because G likes "natural" chains of links better than a number of direct links. But since the number of direct links count too your not only building "juice" with PR... But also building total link counts that point to you. And I think we've all figured out now that numbers of links count almost as highly as PR.

So what's going on here is over the course of time all the links we're building are sure to rise in PR, which will add further weight to our link hopsets without us doing anything at all. While simultaneously building quantity and "natural" link hopsets. (avoiding the G Ban hammer)

Want to add even more "juice" ... Try this.. When one of your campaigns to a page that links to you gets around 40 links, Move your URL target up to something that links to the next hop back in the chain. This will effectively build a distributed network of linkwheels that will push all their PR and linkcount juice in your direction.

To 4alllifestyles
If I ping the pages my links are on, I am also pinging on behalf of everyone else on that page am I not?

I have noticed that there is competition on the same pages. Pinging competitor pages kinda sucks!

That's what I'm trying to get at...no one is really "seeing" it but the few. Perhaps with a bit more time it will sink in, hell I know it took me a while and still not even 10% there I believe.

I think this is a nice product to help even out all of your other link building efforts by funneling stronger links amongst all my other blog commenting etc.

Originally Posted by nufaman

What I find hilarious is how people here started barking at me saying saying stuff like
So why the hell would you only want links from shitty PR0 pages that probably aren't even indexed?
When that is exactly what I am getting here

Then stop complaining because that is exactly what you asked for in your post above.

i might try this first for free and then pay if it is worth it

What is about the domain popularity? Even if i get 1000 links from one domain, i will have 10 domains only. Google counts every domain only once. The positive effect will be the high pagerank due to the sum of those 1000 links from each domain. So at the end, the effect is egual to 10 PR0-PR4 Links from 10 different domains for one URL? Okay, of course i will have the advantage if i use the system not only for one URL, but for another new URL every month.

Originally Posted by Jagged55

Is there no longer a BHW rate? I just went to https://www.thelinkjuicer.com/signup.bhw.html and it was redirected to the public signup page. Thanks.

plan on reinstating this?

I signed up for the trial - I'm curious about this, too....

Originally Posted by schigeden

What is about the domain popularity? Even if i get 1000 links from one domain, i will have 10 domains only. Google counts every domain only once. The positive effect will be the high pagerank due to the sum of those 1000 links from each domain. So at the end, the effect is egual to 10 PR0-PR4 Links from 10 different domains for one URL? Okay, of course i will have the advantage if i use the system not only for one URL, but for another new URL every month.

I don't know what you guys are talking about. If it's not getting indexed, ping it....

Also, after like 3 days of a campaign here is what one of them looks like

Money Site - 8 direct links

Direct Link 1 - has 10 direct links, and links to site A

Direct Link 2 - has 5 direct links, and links to site A

Each of the direct links pointing to Direct Link 1, 2, as well as any new blog sites that direct link to me will continue getting links pointed back at them, which point to me. And they keep going and going.

can someone please explain about the links not getting indexed and why we have to ping them?

Cheers

thanks man

I have 80 plus links to my site in total. This many links after only 7 days.
The problem is none of them are indexed. I am in the trial period so have not paid for
the service. If links are not indexed soon then I will not continue with thelinkjuicer.

I don't see any point in creating links that I have to ping. Is there anyone that has links indexed?

I don't really understand what the big deal is with having to ping our new "sites." It's a lot tougher getting fresh links everyday then it is pinging a few domains. I for one am glad I caught the BHF $27 discount for Link Juicer. I now want a mega account as this thing can really open doors.

For one thing , when you ping a link, you also ping for the links on the entire page.
This includes your competition.

Pages in the 'real world' get found by google naturally. The bookmarking will eventually point the spider to the blogs so just be patient. The idea of the product is to look natural. If that isn't what you want then just don't use it. I don't think there have been any claims this does anything else? With all the content going onto these blogs I expect they will get at least some PR anyway...

G00gle bot is useless in indexing even when u ping pong the shit outta an url, also some domains take some time.

senuke4 vs. link juice.....

pros and cons anyone? ... curious

hahahahaahh

its free if you dare stick your CC anywhere near it.....

thanks but NO thanks





so no its not Free just another sad ploy to F*ck people over when they forget to cancel.....possibly the wrong place to do this considering most of us are doing this because we are numpty enough to do so, although thinking harder maybe its great scam...

do I know you.

There are quite a few pertinent posts in this thread that merit some comment. I will try to group them as there is a small number of recurring themes:

1) My links aren't getting indexed.

Answer: You will never know what gets indexed and what does not. Google will not reveal it to you. You can find more backlinks with Yahoo than with Google but even Yahoo will only show you a small fraction of the backlinks it has crawled. This is a red herring. Stop using the link: operator in Google to see if it has found your bookmarks. You are wasting your time.

2) My site isn't ranking because the links aren't indexed.

Answer: This is a corollary to the first statement. Since the axiom is wrong so are the corollaries. There are 101 reasons why your site may not rank and this is NOT one of them. The following are quotes taken from THIS THREAD:

Originally Posted by dynamicvb

I've concentrated my link building efforts on three sites. Two where older sites which I had not promoted in a long time so the traffic on these two sites was less than 30 visitors average a day. The other one is a brand new site which I just registered on May 11.

After just a few weeks of using the Link Juicer service, the two older sites are averaging over 200 visitors a day with an average of 500 page views to each of them. Adsense revenue on these sites went from a buck or two a week to over 10 bucks a day a piece.

Originally Posted by xanubi

for one whitehat site I've, with this system, I jumped from page 2 on google to page 1, position 4!!

Originally Posted by jnelson563

For one of my clients websites, it went from #10 to #5 for a term that gets 90K searches a month, which I can safely attribute to this.

3) I want links to my site, not someone's blog.

Answer: Then use another tool. You've got the wrong one. Don't complain that your coffee maker doesn't make milkshakes, buy a milkshake maker instead. What The Link Juicer does is it posts YOUR content to "the other guy's blog" and then passes link juice to it from bookmarks. If you don't want to do that then that's fine. No one tool is perfect for everyone.

4) I'm not getting any results after (insert a number) days. Your technique doesn't work.

Answer: First, it is not my technique. The Link Juicer just automates a technique that has been used very successfully to get large amounts of traffic by some of the most successful marketers on the Internet. Second, the technique does work, is working every day for thousands if not tens of thousands of Internet marketers doing it WITHOUT The Link Juicer. The Link Juicer just makes it easier.

If you are not ranking, the number one most probable reason is you have likely chosen a keyword that is too competitive. Choose one that has the right metrics. you can find out what that means anywhere. Do your homework.

Next there are a dozen or so on page and off page factors to consider. Looking at the campaigns it is true that a lot of users don't get it. The spammier your mentality, the less it is going to work. Focus, low link velocity and targeted keywords are most important.

Question...How do I see the backlinks? I am really new to this stuff...I signed up for linkjuicer and signed up on all ten sites...then I created about 8 campaigns..so now how do I see if its working?

Question..I signed up for linkjuicer...I signed up on all ten sites. I created about 8 campaigns...Now how do I see if its working?...It has been 18 hours and nothing is showing up under report for each campaign...Is there somewhere else I can see it?

Originally Posted by pupster

senuke4 vs. link juice.....

pros and cons anyone? ... curious

Linkjuice is really better compared to building a link wheel. With a link wheel You post your content on a Web 2.0 site with links pointing back to your money website and hope to get the PR passed through. Same deal with Linkjuice; your content with links pointing back to your money page are posted on other people's blogs, and then Linkjuicer bookmarks the hell out of those blogs, then bookmarks the bookmarks, thus building PR that is passed to your money site.

Originally Posted by geneanroberts

Question..I signed up for linkjuicer...I signed up on all ten sites. I created about 8 campaigns...Now how do I see if its working?...It has been 18 hours and nothing is showing up under report for each campaign...Is there somewhere else I can see it?

Patience Grasshopper.......

RockinRobin has explained it here before... It takes some time in between his runs for things to happen. The reports come back after the run is finished...

Give it at least 24 hours...

My first runs took 48 - 72 hours for the reports to start coming up... But they do come up. And you can either view them for each campaign or download the csv of it to track yourself....

Originally Posted by whs1978

Linkjuice is really better compared to building a link wheel. With a link wheel You post your content on a Web 2.0 site with links pointing back to your money website and hope to get the PR passed through. Same deal with Linkjuice; your content with links pointing back to your money page are posted on other people's blogs, and then Linkjuicer bookmarks the hell out of those blogs, then bookmarks the bookmarks, thus building PR that is passed to your money site.

WRONG! Once again this is an example of comparing a milkshake maker to a coffee maker.

When you post your content to your link wheels, you aren't hoping that PR gets passed through...that's what the whole concept is based on. Passing PR from one property, to the next, up to your money blog through it's linking structure.

Then if any of you actually took the 10 mins to read the pdf, you'd see that there are a couple other steps which helps create more link juice.

Build your link wheels, then setup your link juicer campaigns around those URL's. To me, this is like adding something like trafficandroid which does auto/scheduled bookmarking runs but LJ adds more structure to the linking and uses web2.0 too.

You could replace your linkwheels with linkjuicer, but why not have them both working for you? LJ is on auto anyway...