Question: Are you adding more web2.0 websites later? Or are you staying with these 10?

Originally Posted by _unknown_

My question was never answered. Can this be used on adult sites? Is there some form of section you could set up, or must I only use this for my G rated sites?

Only material suitable for general public is permitted. There are numerous and legitimate reasons for this, but I will mention just four:
1) Many social sites either do not allow adult content or if they do, require that it be flagged. Allowing adult material would result in accounts being banned in both cases, as we have no way of knowing when to flag it.
2) Mixing adult content up with GP stuff will certainly harm the quality of the link juice.
3) Everyone is using everyone else's accounts to get links. So we stick with content that is acceptable to everyone.
4) I don't promote adult content, never have, never will.

Originally Posted by nossie

Question: Are you adding more web2.0 websites later? Or are you staying with these 10?

I fully expected to have added more by now. My target was 20 by end of June. If you have been following this thread you know that the site was down and had to be rebuilt on a new server. This has set me back a few days but I expect to have more sites added shortly.

Originally Posted by nufaman

Been over 24 hours and nothing is showing up in my campaign
wtf? How long does it take to get things moving?

I dealt with this in yesterday's email to all users. The scheduler runs around 9 or 10 PM GMT. If you save a campaign before that it will run next day. If you miss the scheduler then it will wait another day. So if you save your campaign at 6PM New York time on Wed. it is 11PM GMT so your campaign won't get scheduled until Thurs. for execution Friday. Hope that's clear ;^)

Been playing around with it since the site came back up (signed up hours before everything went pear shaped). So far it looks like it works as advertised.

One thing I do hope is that people using the service RTFM, seems to be a common issue in this thread that people don't. Id hate to see this all go to crap in a hurry because a bunch of lazy idiots cant read and spam a ton of adult garbage all over everyones blogs.

Having to go in and manually edit out all those links across the 10-20 accounts would suck donkey balls. Its just a matter of time before something slips by.

I don't know why, but I've tried Firefox and IE but when I am setting up a campaign, it appears I am only allowed to enter up to 250 characters in the Title and Short Text fields. Is anyone else having that problem?

It's kind of tough to use the spyntax with only 250 characters. Is this just me?

is it total automated after u creat one campaign or we must build many campaigns?

Originally Posted by deth_by_uv

It's kind of tough to use the spyntax with only 250 characters. Is this just me?

Yes, I've run into the same problem. Once the kinks get worked out of the system it would be great if LinkJuicer opens a user forum where we can help each other with tips and techniques.

hope its online soon

Originally Posted by deth_by_uv

It's kind of tough to use the spyntax with only 250 characters. Is this just me?

Severe limitation. Call it a design error. It will be fixed soon.

Originally Posted by kkdren

is it total automated after u creat one campaign or we must build many campaigns?

All automated. You need to create more than one campaign to fully benefit.

Originally Posted by nufaman

One suggestion: when deleting a campaign, have a box show up asking you to confirm. It is quite easy to fuck up and delete the wrong campaign without even noticing

Thanks. Will put on todo list.

Originally Posted by megaw

Id hate to see this all go to crap in a hurry because a bunch of lazy idiots cant read and spam a ton of adult garbage all over everyones blogs.

This is being watched very closely now. I don't think it will be a major problem long term.

Good to know yer watching out for it. If someone does get some through will you be letting us know (email or through the site?) so we can clean our blogs out?

all my backflip.com links in the report got error to access,

rockinrobin there's a problem with the tags being posted to vox they aren't separate and are being added as one huge tag. surely this will be a flag. also as someone else said backflip i believe have banned accounts

thanks so far

Yep, the backflip page I checked was banned ("unable to access").

Also, when I checked my links I saw that someone had registered their diigo account with their email address as their username, making it not work.

I'd like to suggest a script that checks the login details of the accounts before saving them so we can make sure there are no spelling mistakes or typos. It is also confusing with some sites wanting emails and others the username so it might prevent some errors when you go to use those sites.

That is a good idea herron. It will become more problematic as more sites are added to the list of accounts. Would be sweet to have the credentials checked automatically in case of typos and such.

Originally Posted by megaw

That is a good idea herron. It will become more problematic as more sites are added to the list of accounts. Would be sweet to have the credentials checked automatically in case of typos and such.

I agree with this too. This tool is awesome, and measures to keep it almost "spam safe" should be taken.

I started 2 campaigns yesterday. I'll start 2 more today. Also I'm trying to use the 200 word restriction to my advantage. I put click here at the end and I ask if you want to learn more click here; which drives them to my site. It's work on 1 of the blogs so far. I update later.

Chris

Originally Posted by chris1960

I started 2 campaigns yesterday. I'll start 2 more today. Also I'm trying to use the 200 word restriction to my advantage. I put click here at the end and I ask if you want to learn more click here; which drives them to my site. It's work on 1 of the blogs so far. I update later.

Chris

I like your attitude! Positive! However, the 250 character limit on titles etc is gone. You can use spyntax to greater advantage but it is your responsibility to ensure that your titles are not excessively long. They could get clipped.

Originally Posted by megaw

Good to know yer watching out for it. If someone does get some through will you be letting us know (email or through the site?) so we can clean our blogs out?

If I see it I will delete it. But the people concerned now know what the score is. They have better things to do than waste their time.

Originally Posted by biaobao

all my backflip.com links in the report got error to access,

Backflip is currently having about 75-80% success rate, which is pretty good. No support issues have been raised. Please contact support with specifics - account logins etc.

Originally Posted by giresse

rockinrobin there's a problem with the tags being posted to vox they aren't separate and are being added as one huge tag. surely this will be a flag. also as someone else said backflip i believe have banned accounts thanks so far

Vox issue confirmed. Will be looked into. Please contact support with issues like these. They will be dealt with much more quickly.

Originally Posted by Remington

Also, when I checked my links I saw that someone had registered their diigo account with their email address as their username, making it not work.

Originally Posted by herron

I'd like to suggest a script that checks the login details of the accounts before saving them so we can make sure there are no spelling mistakes or typos. It is also confusing with some sites wanting emails and others the username so it might prevent some errors when you go to use those sites.

This is non-trivial, and could take several minutes to do this verification as the number of sites supported increases. Currently accounts with bad login credentials get an email and the account is deactivated until this is rectified. The current system is not perfect but it works. I will see about improving it by making the check before the accounts get used.

i'm still trying to create a campaign, can anyone give me some examples, the Spyntax thing is confusing me

Originally Posted by rockinrobin

If I see it I will delete it. But the people concerned now know what the score is. They have better things to do than waste their time.



Backflip is currently having about 75-80% success rate, which is pretty good. No support issues have been raised. Please contact support with specifics - account logins etc.



Vox issue confirmed. Will be looked into. Please contact support with issues like these. They will be dealt with much more quickly.





This is non-trivial, and could take several minutes to do this verification as the number of sites supported increases. Currently accounts with bad login credentials get an email and the account is deactivated until this is rectified. The current system is not perfect but it works. I will see about improving it by making the check before the accounts get used.

You know, you could just switch from direct to onlywire +the direct logins for your existing lists (to keep randomness).... That would bring you up to 27 bookmarks instantly and preserve the ability to toss in enough "wildcard" links with the ones you interface directly with to keep it random (especially if customers are smart and create new accounts just for the OnlyWire)...

Originally Posted by iwantmoney

i'm still trying to create a campaign, can anyone give me some examples, the Spyntax thing is confusing me

There are {several|different|various|some|distinct} {factors|components|constituents|elements} that {determine|ascertain|decide|ensure|define|shape|in fluence} the {value|measure} of a backlink. Backlinks from {authoritative|important|powerful|influential|pres tigious} {sites|internet sites|web sites|places|websites} on a given {topic|subject|issue|matter} are {highly|extremely|very} {valuable|worthwhile}. If both {sites|internet sites|web sites|websites} have {content|subject matter} geared toward the keyword {topic|subject|issue|theme}, the backlink is {considered|viewed|regarded as|thought|looked at as|seen as|believed to be} {relevant|pertinent} and {believed|thought|considered} to have {strong|powerful|terrific|good|substantial} influence on the search engine rankings of the {webpage|web pages|web page} {granted|given|allotted|awarded} the backlink.
could give you
There are distinct constituents that ascertain the value of a backlink. Backlinks from prestigious web sites on a given matter are highly valuable. If both internet sites have content geared toward the keyword subject, the backlink is regarded as pertinent and believed to have substantial influence on the search engine rankings of the web page granted the backlink.
or this
There are various elements that influence the measure of a backlink. Backlinks from prestigious sites on a given matter are extremely worthwhile. If both internet sites have subject matter geared toward the keyword theme, the backlink is viewed pertinent and believed to have substantial influence on the search engine rankings of the web page granted the backlink.
or this
There are different components that ensure the measure of a backlink. Backlinks from prestigious web sites on a given matter are extremely worthwhile. If both web sites have content geared toward the keyword topic, the backlink is regarded as pertinent and considered to have strong influence on the search engine rankings of the webpage allotted the backlink.

or lots and lots of others depending on how much you use the {phrase1|phrase2|phrase3|phrase4} it will spit out a random one such as phrase3

Originally Posted by 4alllifestyles

You know, you could just switch from direct to onlywire +the direct logins for your existing lists (to keep randomness).... That would bring you up to 27 bookmarks instantly and preserve the ability to toss in enough "wildcard" links with the ones you interface directly with to keep it random (especially if customers are smart and create new accounts just for the OnlyWire)...

I would lose all control over the randomness of timing, and the referring IP's. I prefer to grow steadily and retain control. It does not take that much time to add new drivers. It's just that with the launch and all of the unexpected user behaviour I have lots and lots to do. Will get at those new drivers soon...

Signed up last night, thanks!

Great reviews and apparently a very conscientious programmer. That's a winning combination in my book! I'll head over and give this a whirl.
One question that I hope will educate others in the forum besides just myself: What are acceptable focus properties here? I have a few basic landing (Squeeze) pages and some Squidoo lenses I would like to backlink to, is that cool?
Is this best for blogs with adsense or just as good for anything one would like to optimize? The reason I ask is it seems like G would frown on having a thin, one dimensional landing page optimized to #1 and you'd invite a slap. No?

back up?

Originally Posted by gotstano

Great reviews and apparently a very conscientious programmer. That's a winning combination in my book! I'll head over and give this a whirl.
One question that I hope will educate others in the forum besides just myself: What are acceptable focus properties here? I have a few basic landing (Squeeze) pages and some Squidoo lenses I would like to backlink to, is that cool?
Is this best for blogs with adsense or just as good for anything one would like to optimize? The reason I ask is it seems like G would frown on having a thin, one dimensional landing page optimized to #1 and you'd invite a slap. No?

Thanks. If you promote something you think G will not like then you may be wasting your time. The Link Juicer is not bothered about what you promote, if it is your site, a blogger blog or squidoo lens. Just nothing offensive, no adult no illegal. No excuses, no exceptions, account terminated on the spot. Other than that, the world's your oyster.

Originally Posted by sandycat

back up?

Since 19 June!

Sometimes I wonder if some of you actually investigate claims made here, or just lap it all up.

Go here:

http://www.thelinkjuicer.com/faq.html

Now go and see the amount of backlinks to all the sites listed that are "doing so well" on the left hand column of that page.

e.g:

http://siteexplorer.search.yahoo.com...&bwmo=d&bwmf=s

I will go back to lurking now. Just trying got save you lot some money. They average 50 backlinks each. If I am missing something, let me know.

If you are happy there, stay there. Not trying to pee on anyone's tree, but that's not enough backlinks for me.

Originally Posted by whackhat

Sometimes I wonder if some of you actually investigate claims made here, or just lap it all up.

Go here:

http://www.thelinkjuicer.com/faq.html

Now go and see the amount of backlinks to all the sites listed that are "doing so well" on the left hand column of that page.

e.g:

http://siteexplorer.search.yahoo.com...&bwmo=d&bwmf=s

I will go back to lurking now. Just trying got save you lot some money. They average 50 backlinks each. If I am missing something, let me know.

If you are happy there, stay there. Not trying to pee on anyone's tree, but that's not enough backlinks for me.

Good job. Now go and check on the backlinks for all of those backlinks, then check the backlinks to those backlinks, and then come back and post about your opinion.

Is there no longer a BHW rate? I just went to https://www.thelinkjuicer.com/signup.bhw.html and it was redirected to the public signup page. Thanks.

first 4 links have been posted

Originally Posted by whackhat

Sometimes I wonder if some of you actually investigate claims made here, or just lap it all up.

Go here:

http://www.thelinkjuicer.com/faq.html

Now go and see the amount of backlinks to all the sites listed that are "doing so well" on the left hand column of that page.

e.g:

http://siteexplorer.search.yahoo.com...&bwmo=d&bwmf=s

I will go back to lurking now. Just trying got save you lot some money. They average 50 backlinks each. If I am missing something, let me know.

If you are happy there, stay there. Not trying to pee on anyone's tree, but that's not enough backlinks for me.

You are missing something.

You clearly have not used the service, nor do you understand what it does. Further, you are making unwarranted assumptions about the sites you refer to listed on the left of the page:
- you do not know how long they have been running their campaigns
- you do not know how many other sites they have, nor how their quota of links may be distributed across those sites
- you do not know what their chosen link velocity is

So let's make some reasonable assumptions. The Link Juicer has been live and open to the public for 10 days. Some of those comments are from beta testers who used the site for 17 days prior to that. So the longest anyone ever used the system was 27 days. Now let us assume that they took the advice given by The Link Juicer and set their link velocity at not greater than 3 for each campaign. They would have received 27 * 3 = 81 links. Because of the way the system works, the majority of anyone's links will be indirect. So of those 81 links maybe 25 would be detectable direct backlinks. The rest would be links to the links. Of course that would be for just one site. Each of the users may be promoting a dozen sites for all we know.

These are unsolicited comments from real users. One of them took AdSense revenues from $1 a week to $10 a day on one site in under two weeks. The results are there. Why don't you take advantage of the free trial?

Originally Posted by Jagged55

Is there no longer a BHW rate? I just went to https://www.thelinkjuicer.com/signup.bhw.html and it was redirected to the public signup page. Thanks.

The requisite number of subscribers having been reached, the BHW special is no longer in effect. However, I believe I read somewhere on this thread that it's a steal even at the regular price ;^)

Originally Posted by rockinrobin

The requisite number of subscribers having been reached, the BHW special is no longer in effect. However, I believe I read somewhere on this thread that it's a steal even at the regular price ;^)

rockinrobin, where can we see the software directories submissions? The control panel only show the general bookmarking sites until now after 4 days.

btw, this tool rocks!!

Am i not right in thinking that theres only ever going to be about 10-15 different sites linking to your site, so yeah you can create 3 backlinks a day... but they are ever only just going to be coming a handfull of sites?
I'm not trying to bad mouth it or anything, far from it, ive just joined and setting up my account just now... its just something i was wondering about.

just wanted to give my experience with the link juicer service. It has been 5 days since I started using it. I liked the idea of it "scrambling" the verbage I submitted to give several outcomes for different sites and of course all were readable and sensible since I picked the various versions(synonyms) of the scrambled words. So far I have 5 sites that are bookmarking my site and 4 that are more direct to my site for a total of 9 backlinks. Will keep you updated as to what this all REALLY means as far as good back links.
Patch

Originally Posted by xanubi

rockinrobin, where can we see the software directories submissions? The control panel only show the general bookmarking sites until now after 4 days.

btw, this tool rocks!!

You can't. When your software gets submitted you will get emails from the directories. I had an issue with the directory submission algo and had to rework some of it. There are about 500 submissions in the queue so be patient and wait a few days. Then you'll get some emails.

When we submit, we don't know the url to the place where they show your software because they don't do it in real time. They do some virus scanning and other stuff first and it takes a day or 2 to get posted. Then you get the email.

Also, if you are already a user, it is best to use the support contact form for support. I get it faster.

does this really works?

Hi RockinRobin

Looks like a really useful service, I'm going to try it out. Quick question -

Say we use the service for 6 months, then decide not to keep on using it for some reason. Will all the links that have been created still be there, or will they (immediately or gradually) get deleted?

Just wondering how much "lock in" there is with the service, if that makes sense?

bobski

I just signed up, created the various profiles, and submitted my campaign. Will report back in due course.

Using it for 2 weeks now- started 6 campaings, but i guess its like 40 backlinks a month or so, 50% blogs 50% backlinks..

Those Blogs are Backlinks.....

Originally Posted by egunda

does this really works?

Try it and see. First month free:
www.thelinkjuicer.com/signup.html

Originally Posted by bobski

Hi RockinRobin

Looks like a really useful service, I'm going to try it out. Quick question -

Say we use the service for 6 months, then decide not to keep on using it for some reason. Will all the links that have been created still be there, or will they (immediately or gradually) get deleted?

Just wondering how much "lock in" there is with the service, if that makes sense?

bobski

No one can guarantee that, however two comments:
1) I created bookmarks and other links a year ago and the links are still there.
2) You need to constantly keep creating links. Never stop.

Originally Posted by roachZ

Using it for 2 weeks now- started 6 campaings, but i guess its like 40 backlinks a month or so, 50% blogs 50% backlinks..

If you are getting so few links it is because a) you don't have enough campaigns running or b) you have not registered enough social media sites to get the links. Users who have registered all the sites are getting 15-20 links a day.

Originally Posted by bucky

Am i not right in thinking that theres only ever going to be about 10-15 different sites linking to your site, so yeah you can create 3 backlinks a day... but they are ever only just going to be coming a handfull of sites?
I'm not trying to bad mouth it or anything, far from it, ive just joined and setting up my account just now... its just something i was wondering about.

All the links will come from a limited number of high pr social media sites, but of course they will come from a large number of accounts. Think about it - if your site were really popular would you expect to get one backlink from Ask.com or 100? The natural way to build links is to build them slowly from random accounts on all the major social media sites. The links themselves need social support which is why we create links to your site from blogs and then bookmark the blogs. Having one link each from 50 bookmarking sites is pointless and does notlook natural.

Originally Posted by nufaman

Yeah, on one of my campaigns I see more links pointing to other sites than to my own site!

Those are indirect links. And yes, there will be more indirect links than direct because this is natural. If you have 5 bookmarks and 5 blogs pointing at your site and the 5 blogs each have 5 bookmarks then there will be 25 indirect links vs 10 direct.

Originally Posted by nufaman

EDIT: just saw your reply. What's the use of an "indirect link", whatever that means? I want to gather link to my site, not to some random guy's blog

What do you think is better:

• A link from an unindexed site with pagerank 0
• A link from a page with pagerank 5

The answer is the second one. A link from a page with pagerank 5.

Now why do you think that is? Which one of those has more incoming links?

So why the hell would you only want links from shitty PR0 pages that probably aren't even indexed?

Can we use this for non-English sites?

And have anyone seen any increases in rankings because of this?

I have been using this for two weeks now. What Would really make this a lot better is the following.

1 the ability to vary the destination URL. For instance I have a MFA site with roughly 10 pages. I would like to be able to write ONE article for submission and have it auto rotate through the ten page URL's. At the moment i would have to write 10 spinner articles which i really dont fancy doing it would take ages for me( not a MASSIVE problem but would be nice).

2 Have the ability to spin the anchor text. Gaining loads of backlinks with exactlly the same anchor text does not look good/natural which is what this program is trying to achieve.

I also use SEnuke and the article submission module allows both these features. Sadly SEnuke cant do what this does and schedule the submissions/bookmarks to make them more natural.

We need a combination of the two!

This does have potential though, the links are coming in slowly but surely from different accounts and it truly is set and forget.
If the two above features were implemented i would keep paying my money but as it stands i dont know how effective this will be. I might just be better off gaining a couple of high PR links instead?