Making Money Startup Guide

**HaRRo** · #1 (**permalink**) 02-18-2008, 02:14 PM

Dummies guide to Fast Cash Online

by HaRRo

Theres many ways to make money online but I want to atleast write about an easy method, and since most people want fast I will try to make a post on Fast Cash Online.

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What We Can't Do

Since the nature of this post is fast cash, it would take a tremendous amount of time to make a product or actually even make something that could bring in good money, we really dont have the time to do it at all.

We also cant ask friends for help since they will think we are stupid, and what they could call a money grabber.

We also cant use Google adwords to promote because we dont want to startup using money, we want $0 investment to start with because this would be best, and as most people, cant afford to make a mistake, or dont have a credit card or a way to actually get the money into Google adwords.

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What We Will do!

Now what we will do is as simple as can be.

First of all we need to think of something that people are passionate about, or interested in
I mean something they would die for, totally need or maybe just love. Take a pen and a bit of paper and brainstorm on ideas, as many as you can that would fit this subject. And id recommend things that you can find online, and you can market something to these people (a product or something), and these are the types of people who are willing to spend cash on whatever you have to sell.

Secondly ofcourse
We need to check on these subjects a little research and find out what they are willing to buy, or need to buy, or are going crazy looking to buy something that they need.

Lastly what your going to give
Last of all after all that taking notes you need to research affiliate programs that have these types of products, clickbank usually has all health related, weight loss related, and other type things like insomnia.

Ofcourse I just give away what types of target audience you should be targeting, these types of people would do anything to cure, or get rid of there mental healths or people dying to loose a little flab.

I myself have been in this state because i suffered from Panic Disorder and I know how it feels

Now that we have the target market.

Since we are going to be making cash fast, we only have time to fully check up on one market.

Check out sites that have mailing lists, whether email or snail mail, look for groups of people who have already bought something in the area of interest.

http://bestpricedlists.com
http://infousa.com
http://mip1.usadata.com/usapub
http://edithroman.com
http://venturedirect.com

You can also go and check out related forums like "heart attack forums" in Google, or "Panic disorder + anxiety" or "insomnia forums" things like this.

You can also check Google groups, yahoo groups and Yahoo answers, these types of things work also.

The best examples of the people you are trying to target would be.

Gamblers in debt
People whose home is about to be foreclosed
People about to go out of business
Students who need money to enroll
People who want to get rich quick
Parents with children needing legal help
Insurance agents, doctors, therapists, who have failed or fear failing there exams
Women who can not get pregnant
Women scared of husbands having affairs
Men who cant get women at all
People with illnesses who cant get better and running out of time
People who have work drug tests coming up soon

You can see how desperate these people will be, and are willing to spend a little cash on products that will help them, even a forum PM, to these people will mostly convert if you put it friendly and recommend it.

So all you have to do mainly is research, see what they want. If you spent say about 30mins reading a niche related forum, and look to see and note down what there problems are, what they need, youll find a winner every time.

Now also once you have a customer and they get back to you saying thanks and you see that they purchased it take note of the buyer, email info, or even msn messenger info, because in a month i bet they would buy a similar product.

Ill make this guide a lot better, its time for me to relax and have a beer.

Hope i made sense, any questions?

justmeron · #2 (**permalink**) 02-18-2008, 03:19 PM

Keep it comming teacher and guru.
This forum needs more how to and methodoligy post. We are about much more than just downloads.

modeals · #3 (**permalink**) 02-18-2008, 03:35 PM

that was as simple as you could've put it. This is the basic stuff that has and continues to help me in building my online business. +rep and thanks on this post harro.

for anyone looking to start or even take your IM to the next level, just sit down and do what harro has just outlined and you will be amazed at the ideas that will start to flow from this.

**gergdawg** · #4 (**permalink**) 02-18-2008, 05:46 PM

Harro, you are on a Roll! Rep +1 and keep them coming!

**HaRRo** · #5 (**permalink**) 02-18-2008, 09:46 PM

Me on a roll im just going through basic crap at the moment.

If i was to go advanced id get too many questions :P

**crsk8andsno56** · #6 (**permalink**) 02-19-2008, 01:22 AM

well u cocky little B@astard!

:-)

LexLuthor · #7 (**permalink**) 02-19-2008, 01:57 AM

Do it...go advanced...Jea

Quote:

Originally Posted by HaRRo

Me on a roll im just going through basic crap at the moment.

If i was to go advanced id get too many questions :P

**HaRRo** · #8 (**permalink**) 02-19-2008, 03:54 AM

advanced will come once i get rid of the usual questions asked around the forum guys

Gotta start with everyones requests first

**gr33n** · #9 (**permalink**) 02-19-2008, 03:46 PM

Very good info ....It should be sticky

Damned4life · #10 (**permalink**) 02-19-2008, 05:44 PM

Wow, thanks for explaining that with ease. Very ez for a noob like me to understand. Cheers!

Seo Marketer Mel · #11 (**permalink**) 02-20-2008, 11:18 AM

Resuming: go in the forums and help people giving your clickbank hoplink of a product you want to sell them?!

**cashsalute** · #12 (**permalink**) 02-21-2008, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Seo Marketer Mel

Resuming: go in the forums and help people giving your clickbank hoplink of a product you want to sell them?!

Yes that is what he is implying. something along those lines... you act shocked?

if I can chime in here...

Harro's KEY point which many of you may have overlooked is BE FRIENDLY, if you want to sell people something you have to appear as another forum member just simply offering some helpful advice (most the time anyhow), You can turn this simple idea he's offered you all into a empire... you just have to be creative and don't give up!

justmeron · #13 (**permalink**) 02-21-2008, 04:04 PM

Also on these forums would you post the img cookie stuffing method in the signature or a link to an affiliate site, or both? Also should you post a while befor loading a cookie in your sig. Seems like some forum admins may find out what you are doing and complain to the affiliate parent company?

justmeron · #14 (**permalink**) 02-21-2008, 04:20 PM

No, I mean forum mods from the niche forums described in the method by Harro. Find niche forums and help people and make post then they would possibly make a purchase from our suggestions. The nich forum mods may notice the cookie stuffed in our sig. Would it be good to get the feel of the forum first before stuffing a cookie in our sig. file?

**Oakley** · #15 (**permalink**) 02-21-2008, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by HaRRo

advanced will come once i get rid of the usual questions asked around the forum guys

Gotta start with everyones requests first

You da man HaRRo! I am knee deep in Bigfatrichloser but always drop in 3/4 X's a day and definitely want to say thanks for starting at the beginning.

+ rep deserved and given.

idenguy · #16 (**permalink**) 02-22-2008, 01:37 AM

this is the format of information I have been looking for. It is like IM for the Special Olympics... Perfect for me to understand and set out like a map..

Thanks very much.. I will give rep.....And even better .. I will sign up for the programs in your sig so you can make actual money off my efforts as I learn more.

Thanks.

idenguy · #17 (**permalink**) 02-22-2008, 01:42 AM

Incredible post.. this is the exact type of thing I was looking for... Kinda like the special olympic maunual for IM... Just what I needed... You not only say what has to be done...You walk us through it...

I will give you thanks,
and respect.... and EVEN better.. I will sign up for the affilate programs you recommend and since I believe that will make money for you also, as i make it for me.

Thanks,

chewyturk · #18 (**permalink**) 02-22-2008, 11:52 PM

Excellent post. I need all the help i can get at the mo. I only started in IM a few weeks ago and i've got sooooo many questions :-)

**xcubic** · #19 (**permalink**) 08-08-2008, 02:43 AM

Excellent and direct post. Good way to make money. Besides CB, where do I find affiliates products?

dbrown · #20 (**permalink**) 08-08-2008, 02:55 AM

Affiliate products are every where!

jetton · #21 (**permalink**) 09-01-2008, 05:08 AM

This is great info Harro. Coming from the sales and customer service world, the best sales people I see are the ones that show empathy for their customer and offer assistence to ease a burden. Taking the friendly recommendation approach in forums and 1 on 1 is a great tactic.

**HaRRo** · #22 (**permalink**) 09-07-2008, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by xcubic

Excellent and direct post. Good way to make money. Besides CB, where do I find affiliates products?

Scan forums for new product affiliate programs. OR search places like ebay, amazon, they all do product sales now.

Don Cashola · #23 (**permalink**) 09-08-2008, 02:05 AM

Wow, thanks for this Harro. After reading the guide and doing a little brainstorming, I've already come up with some potentially awesome methods. Let's see if they bring in the cash

synbad82 · #24 (**permalink**) 09-08-2008, 02:21 AM

nice idea, friendly does go alongggggg way

ac3718 · #25 (**permalink**) 09-11-2008, 04:21 PM

Thanks for sharing

bluefoot33 · #26 (**permalink**) 09-24-2008, 11:29 PM

HaRRo, you've got to be one of my favorite members on this site just for the reason that you spend time informing those like me who are just now exploring the possibilities of black hat. You've shared quite a few great posts with all the noobs, so for that I thank you.

**jammie** · #27 (**permalink**) 09-25-2008, 12:20 AM

Great post, People seem to get caught up in "shortcuts" and "blackhat" that they never try anything.

You've given beginners (me included) a direct way into affiliate marketing, with zero investment cost. And for that i thank you immensly.

Now to pay some kid in asia a peanut a week to do everything for me! (j/k!)

**gimme4free** · #28 (**permalink**) 10-29-2008, 12:25 AM

Keep this stuff coming, its gold, thanks a lot

filmont · #29 (**permalink**) 11-11-2008, 07:56 AM

thank you so much, this method is awesome !!!!!

**cybermage** · #30 (**permalink**) 11-12-2008, 07:46 PM

thanks great job at the post HaRRo you are my hero

WingsOFSteel · #31 (**permalink**) 11-14-2008, 02:18 AM

Wow. Thanks HaRRo!
This thread was so inspiring because as I was reading through the steps I kept saying "Oh great, I've already done that!" and now I'm really motivated. Now I just got to get out to the niche forums and find those people.
Thanks so much HaRRo! You really lifted my spirits today!

mutantseed · #32 (**permalink**) 11-15-2008, 04:59 AM

Well, Harro .. the most tiring part for me is researching.. 'cos in my country a fast internet connection is rather expensive and some of us only afford a semi high *grin connection .. so it' a pain in the butt..

hahahari · #33 (**permalink**) 11-16-2008, 02:00 AM

This is a great post for startups. If you have a website, setup an autoresponder and PM ppl in forums to that. Most probably they will subscribe. This can help you build lists too. List= money

shapeshift3r · #34 (**permalink**) 04-22-2009, 07:35 AM

I just did it.

martijnnum1 · #35 (**permalink**) 04-22-2009, 08:34 PM

thanks, interesting post harro
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shadowfax · #36 (**permalink**) 04-23-2009, 07:16 AM

Thanks Harro.. Nice and detailed information ... I'm sure it will be of great help to people who are just starting their IM journey...

Regards,

lucian999 · #37 (**permalink**) 04-23-2009, 07:30 AM

Thanks harro..great post from u as usual

thenonpareil · #38 (**permalink**) 04-23-2009, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadowfax

Thanks Harro.. Nice and detailed information ... I'm sure it will be of great help to people who are just starting their IM journey...

Regards,

Big relief for those like me whose cluelessness and confusion hinders me from taking action. Thanks!

secretbonus · #39 (**permalink**) 04-24-2009, 04:20 AM

A Great post on finding great niches, thanks

chicagoDre · #40 (**permalink**) 05-07-2009, 06:17 AM

WOO!! this is exactly what I've been looking for. Leave it to the guy majoring in how stuff works (engineering) to spend a week tryin to figure out how to get started in this field. Thanks alot!!!

HOWiE11 · #41 (**permalink**) 05-07-2009, 11:22 AM

i am a complete n00b and was wondering where to actually start out. This seems a nice straight forward way for me to try and start on the online money making

silentthunder · #42 (**permalink**) 05-14-2009, 04:49 AM

Thanks for THE blueprint Droogie. Bang On!

Riverdrive · #43 (**permalink**) 07-10-2009, 01:27 PM

HAhaha, I don't know... I think that the method is good, but the examples, not.
I don't want to get money from really desperate people, like people in debt or sick...
I know, I don't need to use this XD! But great topic anyway

keinehabe · #44 (**permalink**) 07-10-2009, 02:15 PM

think yourself guys , put in other peoples '' shoes ''

... ask yourself questions like '' why and who will buy X product '' ? , or '' If I need this X stuff from where I can buy it ''

... places like harro said ebay/amazon/CL /alibaba / clickbank ... any of the have sections like hot selling products , if a product it's selling well means buyers need it ( or they think they need it ) ... backwards thinking

ps. I love to say to this way to think '' follow the money ''

... peoples who know me since long time , know what I`m saying when I say this words , thing is .. everything depend by the commercial way to put a product on the market .... *( remember what storm was created on the e-commerce with products like '' acai beri '' when Oprah had this show ..... sales exploded exponentially , and was made good money with this ) ... similar but revers effect had for example the UIGEA on gambling niche ...

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Making money means to make sales ( your product or other peoples products ) ... it's not important ! , important it's to make sales , to have sales , there MUST be peoples interested to buy that ! for example it's worthless to try to sell sunglasses from gucci or armani to some blind peoples right ?

ps.2 ( joke of course ) -1 rep for harro everyone because hes getting a beer with no sharing here -

I needed also a beer at this time

w4rl0rdx · #45 (**permalink**) 07-10-2009, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hahahari

This is a great post for startups. If you have a website, setup an autoresponder and PM ppl in forums to that. Most probably they will subscribe. This can help you build lists too. List= money

How do you set up an autoresponder to PM people in forums, could you explain that a little more clearly or in more detail?

Sorry for the nooby reply, I just have never used an autoresponder yet, still trying to take in as much info on IM as possible before I get started!