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    Default eBay stops buying Adwords -> is immediately demoted in organic search.

    Well, well, well.... It doesn't get any more blatant than this.

    First the news: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7788804

    The Hacker News discussion is full of Google fanboys(shills? naive fools? who knows), but some comments are definitely worth it. See this one:

    bhouston 13 hours ago | link


    It is a bit weird that "Harvard Business Review predicted that Amazon, Walgreens and other major internet retailers would soon follow eBay's lead and ditch AdWords. If you’re doing SEO, you get that prime SERP placement for free, right?"And then shortly there after eBay dropped significantly in Google's rankings. To be honest, the above statement from HBR is a major threat to Google's business.

    Coincidence?



    (The bold letters are my edit.) Ummmm....this is pretty interesting, so eBay stops buying adwords and Panda 4.0 comes out destroying eBay's all too suspicious "organic" ranks?

    Black Hats have probably brought up the eBay rankings suspicions about 100 times here, their organic results are absolute spam, we all knew it, but how come they lasted so long and only got banned after the adwords money flow dried? Strange, no? "Panda 4.0" what the f is that BS? It's the Adwords 4.0 update....the message seems to be pretty clear.

    Now, who else is in the same boat as eBay? Amazon, Tripadvisor, several others. Pages and pages full of Amazon and Tripadvisor results.....how much are *these* guys spending on Adwords, does anyone know? Keep an eye on them. Soon as they halt the billion dollar ad spam via adwords, Panda 5.0 comes out.

    Newbies finally see how Google *really* works? That's how google works. You got a billion to spend on ads? You won't have any trouble spamming the "organic" serps.

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    Very interesting OP.

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    google is god, google is life

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    Default Re: eBay stops buying Adwords -> is immediately demoted in organic search.

    that is how it works if you rule ..... pay them for the seeps and marry one of them to have a save adsense account ....and you are good .

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    great share op, also W9go.. I'll be reading up on that. Nice share. This is what Google is all about. It's only natural. Or should i say "organic"

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    Default Re: eBay stops buying Adwords -> is immediately demoted in organic search.

    Stupid question: But how do we know, aside from anecdotal evidence and marketers own confirmation bias, that Google really banned Ebay?

    Did Ebay themselves issue any statements? Or did some random marketer search a half a dozen keywords and now everyone is just assuming they were penalized?

    I'm just not clear how you track a site as large as Ebay...


    edit: I just started my own search and want to note that the very first phrase I searched "buy used desktop computer" has an ebay listing at #4. That's not proof of anything HOWEVER, this is raising my suspicions that marketers are just making up more bs conspiracy theories.
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    Default Re: eBay stops buying Adwords -> is immediately demoted in organic search.

    Did Ebay themselves issue any statements? Or did some random marketer search a half a dozen keywords and now everyone is just assuming they were penalized?
    edit: I just started my own search and want to note that the very first phrase I searched "buy used desktop computer" has an ebay listing at #4. That's not proof of anything HOWEVER, this is raising my suspicions that marketers are just making up more bs conspiracy theories.
    so you want to say that your one keyword is better then dozens of keywords ?

    it's a very very happy new for BHW if many big brands will stop paying adwords.
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    If any of the anti-trust laws had teeth, now would be a good time to bite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prab1996 View Post
    so you want to say that your one keyword is better then dozens of keywords ?

    it's a very very happy new for BHW if many big brands will stop paying adwords.
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    But would they stop paying adwords after what happened to Ebay?

    It certainly would be good news to small business owners too, if the playing field was actually leveled.
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    Default Re: eBay stops buying Adwords -> is immediately demoted in organic search.

    I read this one yesterday. It is justified IMO. I always like to think Google as a business, which it is. Please, please please don't take it as God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by g0g0l View Post
    I read this one yesterday. It is justified IMO. I always like to think Google as a business, which it is. Please, please please don't take it as God.
    It's justified for leveling the playing field or justified for deranking them due to not paying as much in Adwords?

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    Fack Ebay, If I owned Google I'd tell my managers to do the same thing.
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    Default Re: eBay stops buying Adwords -> is immediately demoted in organic search.

    Good news imho.

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    Very interesting! Seems like all this shit going on just keeps money flowing from everyone to google.. :P

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    Default Re: eBay stops buying Adwords -> is immediately demoted in organic search.

    Assuming the Adwords policy rumours are true, I really can't see Google being stupid enough to take similar manipulative action against someone the size of Ebay.

    Ebay have an army of lawyers and very deep pockets, so legal action would be a certainty, as would the resulting exposure of these alleged practices.

    That exposure and any negative legal ruling would open the flood gates for everyone else.

    And that would clearly be something Google would want to avoid at all costs.
    Bite off more than you can chew - then chew like f***!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trepanated View Post
    Assuming the Adwords policy rumours are true, I really can't see Google being stupid enough to take similar manipulative action against someone the size of Ebay.

    Ebay have an army of lawyers and very deep pockets, so legal action would be a certainty, as would the resulting exposure of these alleged practices.

    That exposure and any negative legal ruling would open the flood gates for everyone else.

    And that would clearly be something Google would want to avoid at all costs.
    Well, basically google has been doing nothing illegal, they closed 1 eye and let ebay spammed the organic traffic when they still used Adwords.

    Now Ebay quit Adwords, "accidentally", both of Google's eyes are now openned lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Typlo View Post
    But would they stop paying adwords after what happened to Ebay?

    It certainly would be good news to small business owners too, if the playing field was actually leveled.
    that is why google gave a kiss to ebay, now all others will be afraid of this thing.
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    So if somebody create a bot to click on adwords ads like crazy and than few 1000s people start using this bot, than all google's animals will die.
    To easy to be true. In this way billion dollars industries can be killed in a months. This is what I mean: If I spend 100s of 1000s dollars for adwords each month and get 100s of 1000s clicks without any conversation, than of course will stop paying. Than my rank will drop and my competitors will eat me (and of course 10's of 1000's adsense accounts will be banned with no reason). Don't forget that such bot can be running on background and can be installed on 1000s computers in 1 day trough some PPI, so this math sows that for $1000 or less, some giant can be killed in no time (or some local competitor for less than $10).
    I am very twisted. Possibly the traffic level drop on ebay (if have such drop) is because duplicate content, because many people copy/paste the same add on many sites.

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    I would love to see the fight between ebay and google. Hope amazon and other giants give up on adwords too. That would deffinitely give google a lesson. But of course google wouldn't let that go and let small companies rank better on serps to punish the giants. And this means only 1 thing it will be a nice year=)

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    As long as Google keeps feeding the American Government peoples private information, Google can do what it wants, and there is nobody else powerful enough to stop them

    Though the European Governments are starting to clamp down on the Big G, they are not united enough yet,


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    Default Re: eBay stops buying Adwords -> is immediately demoted in organic search.

    It's just business, nothing more nothing less.

    This happens everyday in other sectors, the carrot and stick of a relationship/negotiation. It just looks like Ebay got the stick - and are suffering the fallout.

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    Those leaks on pastebin by a former Google employee weren't lies then after all!

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    OP, You must totally do not understand B2C or B2B business, see my thread here to help you understand whats' situation in traffic for B2C company: http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackha...reference.html

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    Default Re: eBay stops buying Adwords -> is immediately demoted in organic search.

    It might be the either case. It's a private company and google search is the best product the company has. It can do anything it wants to. If you don't like them, don't use them ( if you can).. </rant>
    Quote Originally Posted by Bionaire View Post
    It's justified for leveling the playing field or justified for deranking them due to not paying as much in Adwords?

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    Quote Originally Posted by g0g0l View Post
    It might be the either case. It's a private company and google search is the best product the company has. It can do anything it wants to. If you don't like them, don't use them ( if you can).. </rant>
    Being a private company doesn't make google untouchable. Just ask AT&T in the early 1980's.

    Granted, different situation and times.

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    100% right, i tryed this myself, aded adwords only for one week, payed 1k and my #2 keywords ranked #1 in 24 hours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin1971 View Post
    100% right, i tryed this myself, aded adwords only for one week, payed 1k and my #2 keywords ranked #1 in 24 hours.
    It's easy when you got a billion dollar budget

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    Quote Originally Posted by bartosimpsonio View Post
    . Soon as they halt the billion dollar ad spam via adwords, Panda 5.0 comes out.
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    100% true. 1 new update for every big advertiser they loose. :-)
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    There's only till a certain limit that google can push it and act like arrogant fucks, and get away with it. one day they'll have to pay for their arrogance.

    who knows someday they might be history Till then keep blackhatting them

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    LETS MAKE SOMETHING CLEAR -

    Buying adwords does NOT help you rank higher. And not buying adwords does NOT get your site penalized. There is not 1 case study, 1 shred of proof, 1 *anything* that even remotely supports this idea. I rank in 14 different niches #1 and not once have I ever dropped a penny on adwords. Most of the people in my niches who buy adwords are the same people who DON'T rank organically in the SERPs. And this update had 0 effect on any of my rankings.

    I understand the OP is a respected member on this forum.... but is anyone paying attention to what he actually wrote? This update rolled out literally days ago, and to claim it was an "adwords update" is beyond ridiculous. Especially when Matt Cutts himself said this was just another update targeting spammy sites.

    I don't believe for a second that Google would do this out of mere corporate spite.

    Ebay is worth about 60 billion.
    Google is worth about >>> 460 billion.

    In laymans terms, Google doesn't give a shit about Ebay. And Ebay was NOT penalized cause they stopped buying adwords. They got penalized because they had thousands upon thousands of thin, doorway pages... the EXACT TYPE of content that Google hates, cluttering up their SERPs.

    Everyone know's that Ebay's adwords campaigns were a mess. They had ads showing up for terms like "Severed Head Sales" and "Vomit Sales". This is a 60 billion dollar company that has no idea how to use negative keywords! Then they have the nerve to bitch in public about adwords not being profitable? Well, no shit. And where thing's get REALLY IRONIC... is when you realize that their SEO strategy was 100xs worse than their adwords campaigns. Viewed in this context, by any objective, rational minded person, there is only *1* explanation for why Ebay lost their rankings. It's not magic. It's not voodoo. It's not some adwords conspiracy. Its because...

    >>>> they are completely, comprehensively, and grossly incompetent. They were BEGGING for it.

    They were doing something Google hated. Google released another major update.... and bye bye went Ebay. The point I'm making here is simple. If Ebay was competent and actually had a clue what they were doing, it would not matter 1 bit whether they were buying adwords or not. If they were doing proper SEO, they'd still have their rankings.

    But they don't. And all of you Google haters, the same people who make most of your money thanks to G.... if you really despise them so much then go use Bing or Yahoo. Cause these Google bashing threads are beyond ridiculous. If ANYONE deserves to be bashed here it's EBAY, not Google.

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    You completely miss the point of this thread. Here is the summary in easy terms:

    Ebay suddenly did not make any changes in their SEO strategy or
    the way their internal pages are linked or the way they created the URLs.

    If that were the case, they should have been penalized long ago,
    it should not have been the result of Panda 4.0

    One fine morning, google's engineers woke up and discovered that the URL structure of
    one of the biggest and earliest sites on the internet is not right and it should be penalized.

    And this is a coincidence that google's engineers realized this just when
    Ebay decided to shut down their adwords campaign.

    Stop drinking the Google KoolAid.

    Quote Originally Posted by BreaknBrix View Post
    LETS MAKE SOMETHING CLEAR -

    Buying adwords does NOT help you rank higher. And not buying adwords does NOT get your site penalized. There is not 1 case study, 1 shred of proof, 1 *anything* that even remotely supports this idea. I rank in 14 different niches #1 and not once have I ever dropped a penny on adwords. Most of the people in my niches who buy adwords are the same people who DON'T rank organically in the SERPs. And this update had 0 effect on any of my rankings.

    I understand the OP is a respected member on this forum.... but is anyone paying attention to what he actually wrote? This update rolled out literally days ago, and to claim it was an "adwords update" is beyond ridiculous. Especially when Matt Cutts himself said this was just another update targeting spammy sites.

    I don't believe for a second that Google would do this out of mere corporate spite.

    Ebay is worth about 60 billion.
    Google is worth about >>> 460 billion.

    In laymans terms, Google doesn't give a shit about Ebay. And Ebay was NOT penalized cause they stopped buying adwords. They got penalized because they had thousands upon thousands of thin, doorway pages... the EXACT TYPE of content that Google hates, cluttering up their SERPs.

    Everyone know's that Ebay's adwords campaigns were a mess. They had ads showing up for terms like "Severed Head Sales" and "Vomit Sales". This is a 60 billion dollar company that has no idea how to use negative keywords! Then they have the nerve to bitch in public about adwords not being profitable? Well, no shit. And where thing's get REALLY IRONIC... is when you realize that their SEO strategy was 100xs worse than their adwords campaigns. Viewed in this context, by any objective, rational minded person, there is only *1* explanation for why Ebay lost their rankings. It's not magic. It's not voodoo. It's not some adwords conspiracy. Its because...

    >>>> they are completely, comprehensively, and grossly incompetent. They were BEGGING for it.

    They were doing something Google hated. Google released another major update.... and bye bye went Ebay. The point I'm making here is simple. If Ebay was competent and actually had a clue what they were doing, it would not matter 1 bit whether they were buying adwords or not. If they were doing proper SEO, they'd still have their rankings.

    But they don't. And all of you Google haters, the same people who make most of your money thanks to G.... if you really despise them so much then go use Bing or Yahoo. Cause these Google bashing threads are beyond ridiculous. If ANYONE deserves to be bashed here it's EBAY, not Google.

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    this is also an amazing read, Google Punished eBay for Bad SEO Practices, but It Wasn’t Part of “Panda” Update
    http://recode.net/2014/05/23/yes-goo...-panda-update/

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    ..SNIP... yadda yadda yadda..SNIP...
    But they don't. And all of you Google haters, the same people who make most of your money thanks to G.... if you really despise them so much then go use Bing or Yahoo. Cause these Google bashing threads are beyond ridiculous. If ANYONE deserves to be bashed here it's EBAY, not Google.
    WTF did I just read here? You sound like a batshit crazy desperate google marketer. Just...WTF was that....

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    Quote Originally Posted by bartosimpsonio View Post
    WTF did I just read here? You sound like a batshit crazy desperate google marketer. Just...WTF was that....
    Ignore those kind of posts next time, they don't ever deserve a reply...

    Going back on topic, I'm with Google this time. Ebay was doing something outside Google's guidelines and they got penalized, period.

    However, I'll have to admit that there's a big coincidence in the timing between this update and the Ebay-Adwords divorce.

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    On which respected site does it say that eBay quit paying for Adwords ads?

    I only read a case study from March 2013 where they quit buying ads for their BRAND name.

    Is this all rumours or is there some real evidence that eBay quit using Adwords?
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    Quote Originally Posted by aldis View Post
    Going back on topic, I'm with Google this time. Ebay was doing something outside Google's guidelines and they got penalized, period.
    Sure, but that's not the point. As even the Supreme Court has ruled, Google can do whatever they want with their search results. Quality or no quality, Google gets to decide what quality is. IMO their "quality" guidelines are just meant to sell more ads.

    The thing is: Ebay search results were 100% spam since like 3 years now.... other black hats raised this discussion here several times... it's often asked how come Ebay, Amazon and Tripadvisor and friends get to have 7 or 8 results in a 10 results page? I always suspected those results. If any small website did the same they'd be banned. But amazingly, Ebay, Amazon, Tripadvisor and several large brands get away with it. They still get away with it right now.

    Then, strangely, Ebay cancels their adwords account and is penalized for "spam" less than two months later.

    If a car salesman tries to sell you a car, you assume he's trying to sell you a car from the start. Not with Google! They sell ads, but somehow people still argue that they're doing what they're doing because they're "nice guys" and "do no evil"(WTF?). Google sells ads. Their business is based on ads, their shareholders want them to sell more ads. If you mess with their ad revenue, then your site "has zero quality". Ebay messed with Google's ad revenue big time, and this is the obvious response. It's so blatant.

    Quote Originally Posted by SEOBS View Post
    On which respected site does it say that eBay quit paying for Adwords ads?

    I only read a case study from March 2013 where they quit buying ads for their BRAND name.

    Is this all rumours or is there some real evidence that eBay quit using Adwords?
    I don't know about being respected or not. But here go some sources. You can probably find the original source from those(it's probably in the SEC filings).

    http://www.business2community.com/se...0889926#!Qv7DR

    http://www.marketingprofs.com/opinio...bay-case-study

    http://searchengineland.com/ebay-say...indings-151573

    http://smallbiztrends.com/2013/03/eb...y-lessons.html

    http://www.wordstream.com/blog/ws/2014/05/21/panda-4

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    Quote Originally Posted by bartosimpsonio View Post
    I don't know about being respected or not. But here go some sources. You can probably find the original source from those(it's probably in the SEC filings).
    Yes I know all those sources but there is a GAP of more then 1 year between eBay doing a brand case study on Adwords (that many also misinterpretated as it was only for their own name query for what I remember from last year) and the Panda 4.0 update.

    What people do now? They act like eBay just got punished due to quit paying for Adwords, like it happened yesterday instead of more then a year ago.

    So there is ZERO relation between eBay stopping with Adwords and tanking due to Panda 4.0 as there has been way too much time in between.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BreaknBrix View Post
    LETS MAKE SOMETHING CLEAR -

    Buying adwords does NOT help you rank higher. And not buying adwords does NOT get your site penalized. There is not 1 case study, 1 shred of proof, 1 *anything* that even remotely supports this idea. I rank in 14 different niches #1 and not once have I ever dropped a penny on adwords. Most of the people in my niches who buy adwords are the same people who DON'T rank organically in the SERPs. And this update had 0 effect on any of my rankings.

    I understand the OP is a respected member on this forum.... but is anyone paying attention to what he actually wrote? This update rolled out literally days ago, and to claim it was an "adwords update" is beyond ridiculous. Especially when Matt Cutts himself said this was just another update targeting spammy sites.

    I don't believe for a second that Google would do this out of mere corporate spite.

    Ebay is worth about 60 billion.
    Google is worth about >>> 460 billion.

    In laymans terms, Google doesn't give a shit about Ebay. And Ebay was NOT penalized cause they stopped buying adwords. They got penalized because they had thousands upon thousands of thin, doorway pages... the EXACT TYPE of content that Google hates, cluttering up their SERPs.

    Everyone know's that Ebay's adwords campaigns were a mess. They had ads showing up for terms like "Severed Head Sales" and "Vomit Sales". This is a 60 billion dollar company that has no idea how to use negative keywords! Then they have the nerve to bitch in public about adwords not being profitable? Well, no shit. And where thing's get REALLY IRONIC... is when you realize that their SEO strategy was 100xs worse than their adwords campaigns. Viewed in this context, by any objective, rational minded person, there is only *1* explanation for why Ebay lost their rankings. It's not magic. It's not voodoo. It's not some adwords conspiracy. Its because...

    >>>> they are completely, comprehensively, and grossly incompetent. They were BEGGING for it.

    They were doing something Google hated. Google released another major update.... and bye bye went Ebay. The point I'm making here is simple. If Ebay was competent and actually had a clue what they were doing, it would not matter 1 bit whether they were buying adwords or not. If they were doing proper SEO, they'd still have their rankings.

    But they don't. And all of you Google haters, the same people who make most of your money thanks to G.... if you really despise them so much then go use Bing or Yahoo. Cause these Google bashing threads are beyond ridiculous. If ANYONE deserves to be bashed here it's EBAY, not Google.
    The point is that none of the big sites like Ebay,RetailMenot,GoDaddy,HostGator,Expedia,RapGeni us is playing by Google's rules.
    You pay for Adwords = You get away with whatever you do (in terms of SEO) and thats what exactly most of big sites (aka whitelisted sites) are doing.

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    What a terrible week for ebay...probably the worst in their history

    http://www.cnet.com/news/ebay-hacked...nge-passwords/
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    Nice post Op and a good read. As for Ebay.. well whatever, I don't use em.

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    I'm still amazed at how badly eBay was running their AdWords campaigns, and how that was allowed to go on for so long. Didn't Google step in at some point and let them know their campaigns were a disaster? If you are spending that kind of money per month with AdWords, they will assign you a dedicated account team who will proactively work with you to improve your account performance. I cannot believe they would let this kind of incompetence persist without trying to fix things for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imserious View Post
    You completely miss the point of this thread. Here is the summary in easy terms:

    Ebay suddenly did not make any changes in their SEO strategy or
    the way their internal pages are linked or the way they created the URLs.

    If that were the case, they should have been penalized long ago,
    it should not have been the result of Panda 4.0

    One fine morning, google's engineers woke up and discovered that the URL structure of
    one of the biggest and earliest sites on the internet is not right and it should be penalized.

    And this is a coincidence that google's engineers realized this just when
    Ebay decided to shut down their adwords campaign.

    Stop drinking the Google KoolAid.
    LOL, we get it dude. JFK was never shot by Lee Harvey Oswald, Elvis is still alive, reptiles are taking over the world and Google penalized Ebay just because they stopped buying adwords.

    You sound like the Alex Jones of internet marketing.

    Ebay got penalized because of Penguin 4.0. And A LOT of sites lost rank thanks to this update.

    If you don't believe that, and you really believe something more sinister is going on, then show me your proof. Because I would *love* to see how that conversation went down with Larry Page and his engineers. "Hey Mr. Engineer, Ebay stopped buying adwords and I be mad as hell yo so let's crush dem bitches".

    Engineer responds - "Mr. Page, I understand that you're angry... but what if Ebay changes their minds a week from now and turns their campaigns back on? Then we lose millions in ad revenue because of 1 angry, immature & spiteful decision?"

    Maybe that twisted type of logic makes sense to you. But it doesn't make any sense to me. EVEN IF Google did penalize Ebay out of spite, in the end they're just doing them a huge favor. Because Ebay is gonna learn, adapt & evolve into a better business. You people can speculate and spread as many false rumors as you want. I'm just pointing out that you have no proof. The real kool aid drinkers are the ones who make accusations based on their own wild imaginations. They're the ones who buy into these sensational and ridiculous explanations because their brains can't accept the boring truth.

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    Looks like it was a manual penalty: http://searchengineland.com/google-h...results-192454
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    Let's welcome the new buddies from Mountain View! Welcome Atomic76 and BreaknBrix !!! Say hi to Matt Cutts for us

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