Got slapped by google - webmaster tools message

 

Results 1 to 31 of 31
So Google Webmaster Tools took a "manual action" against my site for unnatural links and ...
  1. #1
    mqs1000 is offline Regular Member
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Posts
    487
    Thanks
    146
    Thanked 50 Times in 31 Posts

    Default Got slapped by google - webmaster tools message

    So Google Webmaster Tools took a "manual action" against my site for unnatural links and I lost most of my rankings. I submitted a large list of links to disavow. Anyone know how long it takes for my site to get re-ranked after disavowing a bunch of bad links? Or am I screwed forever




  2. #2
    cryptexicebone's Avatar
    cryptexicebone is offline Regular Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    santa barbara, ca
    Posts
    222
    Thanks
    24
    Thanked 54 Times in 29 Posts

    Default Re: Got slapped by google - webmaster tools message

    the big G is all knowing and all seeing, i fell victim to your situation about 2 weeks back

  3. #3
    partymarty4870's Avatar
    partymarty4870 is offline bikini mechanic
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    I come from a land downunder
    Posts
    2,023
    Thanks
    1,240
    Thanked 1,558 Times in 745 Posts

    Default Re: Got slapped by google - webmaster tools message

    usually just disavowing won't do it. they want you to grovel too. they also want you to make (fake) some effort to remove the offending links by contacting webmasters.

    The general consensus out there is it'll maybe take 3 recon requests before they take any action, although I have heard of it happening sooner too. (Personally I'm up to my 5th, but I've got a 12 y/o site with well over 100K of links to go through.)

  4. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to partymarty4870 For This Useful Post:

    Aty (04-24-2014), hardc0der (04-24-2014), prab1996 (04-24-2014)

  5. #4
    randomblackguy's Avatar
    randomblackguy is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    104
    Thanks
    7
    Thanked 36 Times in 26 Posts

    Default Re: Got slapped by google - webmaster tools message

    first disavow ~70% of your links in one go

    make some sob story about your SEO guy giving into peer pressure and buying stuff from chinese/indian sellers.
    tell them you have fired him since the incident but unfortunately you don't have any reports of what links he bought and that you would like to regain your place in google and that you will redeem yourself by offering your audience only the best in terms of quality content & blablabla...

    after ~ 1-2 weeks they'll message you back saying that your site still isn't google search compliant and give you a type of link (usually they just send 1 link but if you're lucky they'll show you more)

    disavow the rest of your links ... and I mean all of them!

    edit your htaccess to 404 or 301 all your links to google or whatever site you want.

    send them a message back explaining that you are really eager to get back on their good side and also tell them you htaccessed all your links to 404... they can't see your htaccess but they might manually check if your some links still point to your site.

    after about 2 more weeks you're off the hook.

    after that never build links to your main domain. point them at 'www' because that's a subdomain of your main. have 'www' 301'ed onto your main domain.

    at the next penalty just remove 'www' and tell them you have deleted the 'page' with outstanding issues towards their quality guidelines.

    create 'www1' and redo the whole process...

    501.gif

    this .gif should be dancing... it will when you click it.

  6. The Following 8 Users Say Thank You to randomblackguy For This Useful Post:

    Bestcreaters (04-24-2014), bytzu (04-24-2014), coreyvf (04-24-2014), djw1606 (04-24-2014), godspeed007 (04-24-2014), kideze (04-28-2014), mqs1000 (04-28-2014), umerjutt00 (04-24-2014)

  7. #5
    coreyvf's Avatar
    coreyvf is offline MakeFiverrMoney.com
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Canada
    Age
    27
    Posts
    307
    Thanks
    100
    Thanked 120 Times in 79 Posts

    Default Re: Got slapped by google - webmaster tools message

    If you use Webmaster tools, you're asking for manual action to be taken on your website. Stay under the radar and don't depend/rely on Google. 2 hard lessons to learn.

  8. #6
    krswlr's Avatar
    krswlr is offline Jr. VIP
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    127
    Thanks
    24
    Thanked 18 Times in 13 Posts

    Default Re: Got slapped by google - webmaster tools message

    Why signing up to GWT in the first place? The tools gives you literally nothing. Getting your website to the full health could take some time. If the damage is heave I'd consider buying a new one.

  9. #7
    ikilledkenny is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Posts
    162
    Thanks
    11
    Thanked 60 Times in 38 Posts

    Default Re: Got slapped by google - webmaster tools message

    95% that you won't get your previous rankings because you remove & basically ask google to forget about your links = link power gone.

  10. #8
    randomblackguy's Avatar
    randomblackguy is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    104
    Thanks
    7
    Thanked 36 Times in 26 Posts

    Default Re: Got slapped by google - webmaster tools message

    Quote Originally Posted by ikilledkenny View Post
    95% that you won't get your previous rankings because you remove & basically ask google to forget about your links = link power gone.
    it takes a sh1tload of time until the algo parses those links again... and even then it will see them as 404 and not deindex them because it might be a website malfunction... if those links would just disappear it would be easy for people to dos hosts and get links deindexed...

  11. #9
    souleclipse's Avatar
    souleclipse is offline Jr. VIP
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Posts
    589
    Thanks
    42
    Thanked 134 Times in 70 Posts

    Default Re: Got slapped by google - webmaster tools message

    Quote Originally Posted by coreyvf View Post
    If you use Webmaster tools, you're asking for manual action to be taken on your website. Stay under the radar and don't depend/rely on Google. 2 hard lessons to learn.
    Do you think we should use Google analytic also?

  12. #10
    ID Internet Marketer's Avatar
    ID Internet Marketer is offline SOCIALSBOX.COM
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    My Private Kingdom
    Age
    20
    Posts
    901
    Thanks
    67
    Thanked 701 Times in 227 Posts

    Default Re: Got slapped by google - webmaster tools message

    you won't get ranking back (really hard). you need start again, build backlinks etc.
    just wait 2 - 4 weeks.

  13. #11
    hardcorebiker's Avatar
    hardcorebiker is online now ►► COSMO NAMES ◄◄
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    Cosmo Laboratory
    Posts
    985
    Thanks
    753
    Thanked 954 Times in 462 Posts

    Default Re: Got slapped by google - webmaster tools message

    Not sure why people signup for GWT. There must be some catch as google doesn't offer any service for free for no reason.

  14. #12
    prab1996's Avatar
    prab1996 is offline Prab1996.com
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Prab1996.com
    Posts
    3,106
    Thanks
    2,703
    Thanked 1,594 Times in 1,037 Posts
    Blog Entries
    13

    Default Re: Got slapped by google - webmaster tools message

    Don't tell them that you lost ranks , tell them that you lost traffic.
    use your wmt gmail address to send emails to some site owners to disavow links.
    add a pop on your site "to all lover of xxx.com please remove link to my site from your blog/site".
    + disavow all links you find in wmt.

    just act as a nooby site owner.

    Quote Originally Posted by hardcorebiker View Post
    Not sure why people signup for GWT. There must be some catch as google doesn't offer any service for free for no reason.
    even if you won't signup , still they will have all info about your site.
    #number of visitors
    #backlinks
    #content
    #ranks
    #bounce rate
    #social presence.

    it's just a good thing which help you , if you play cleverly. (this might be helping them , but it doesn't mean that you can't manipulate it)


    -=-
    Last edited by prab1996; 04-24-2014 at 10:43 AM.

  15. #13
    W130SN's Avatar
    W130SN is offline Jr. VIP
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    Gropecunt Lane Londinium
    Age
    44
    Posts
    5,710
    Thanks
    8,204
    Thanked 12,550 Times in 5,225 Posts

    Default Re: Got slapped by google - webmaster tools message

    Quote Originally Posted by prab1996 View Post
    Don't tell them that you lost ranks , tell them that you lost traffic.
    use your wmt gmail address to send emails to some site owners to disavow links.
    add a pop on your site "to all lover of xxx.com please remove link to my site from your blog/site".
    + disavow all links you find in wmt.

    just act as a nooby site owner.



    even if you won't signup , still they will have all info about your site.
    #number of visitors
    #backlinks
    #content
    #ranks
    #bounce rate
    #social presence.

    it's just a good thing which help you , if you play cleverly. (this might be helping them , but it doesn't mean that you can't manipulate it)


    -=-

    Not true, if you don't sign up for any Google tools (GWT,Analytics etc) then they don't get a complete picture.
    If you are doing any serious BH stuff then it is better not to use their tools, it just makes things easier for them.

  16. #14
    gtothem's Avatar
    gtothem is online now Jr. VIP
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Posts
    175
    Thanks
    82
    Thanked 209 Times in 116 Posts

    Default Re: Got slapped by google - webmaster tools message

    Quote Originally Posted by krswlr View Post
    Why signing up to GWT in the first place? The tools gives you literally nothing. Getting your website to the full health could take some time. If the damage is heave I'd consider buying a new one.
    It provides search impressions and clicks (well a small percentage) which is good if you have alot of longtails.

  17. #15
    prab1996's Avatar
    prab1996 is offline Prab1996.com
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Prab1996.com
    Posts
    3,106
    Thanks
    2,703
    Thanked 1,594 Times in 1,037 Posts
    Blog Entries
    13

    Default Re: Got slapped by google - webmaster tools message

    Quote Originally Posted by W130SN View Post
    Not true, if you don't sign up for any Google tools (GWT,Analytics etc) then they don't get a complete picture.
    If you are doing any serious BH stuff then it is better not to use their tools, it just makes things easier for them.
    yep , i know that . but , op isn't doing serious bh stuff.
    a person doing serious bhseo will not open a thread like this.
    -=-

  18. #16
    hardcorebiker's Avatar
    hardcorebiker is online now ►► COSMO NAMES ◄◄
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    Cosmo Laboratory
    Posts
    985
    Thanks
    753
    Thanked 954 Times in 462 Posts

    Default Re: Got slapped by google - webmaster tools message

    Quote Originally Posted by prab1996 View Post
    even if you won't signup , still they will have all info about your site.
    #number of visitors
    #backlinks
    #content
    #ranks
    #bounce rate
    #social presence.

    it's just a good thing which help you , if you play cleverly. (this might be helping them , but it doesn't mean that you can't manipulate it)


    -=-
    Not really. You can't even imagine how much info is being sent by using GWT. I never used GWT and so my spam sites never tanked unless there was a major update like penguin. It can't be luck since I have tried this on TONS of sites. Try ignoring GWT and you will have a better piece of mind.

  19. #17
    prab1996's Avatar
    prab1996 is offline Prab1996.com
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Prab1996.com
    Posts
    3,106
    Thanks
    2,703
    Thanked 1,594 Times in 1,037 Posts
    Blog Entries
    13

    Default Re: Got slapped by google - webmaster tools message

    ^ not sure about how they are going to pull my site info using a meta tag.


    Using google analyst is a different story. (but, you can even manipulate it)
    (i am not talking about spam/c&b/serious seo , if op might be doing spam seo then he might not have posted this)
    i also never use gwt for spam sites because imo it's not worth for short term sites.
    -=-
    Last edited by prab1996; 04-24-2014 at 11:06 AM.

  20. #18
    jamesvick's Avatar
    jamesvick is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    article directories
    Posts
    914
    Thanks
    156
    Thanked 550 Times in 206 Posts

    Default Re: Got slapped by google - webmaster tools message

    Re-ranked after manual action sounds like fairy tale though some threads here have confirmed about positive ranking changes after consideration requests. It might be a good idea to start your campaign again with a new website.

    Tell them you lost traffic after someone neg seo'd you like a competitor. Also do a small PR of how google is ruining it for everyone. Maybe your brand gets popular like that ?

    Regards,

    ^^ i know it sounds ridiculous but why give them access. A token is all they need to get so much info about your site. Forget BH SEO no one should be using GWT ever.

  21. #19
    xxsaumitraxx's Avatar
    xxsaumitraxx is offline Jr. VIP
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    /tmp
    Posts
    1,205
    Thanks
    324
    Thanked 2,049 Times in 529 Posts

    Default Re: Got slapped by google - webmaster tools message

    My friend warned me about using GWT, but I am still using it. I guess I should remove it as soon as possible, as a lot of people here made it clear.

  22. #20
    W130SN's Avatar
    W130SN is offline Jr. VIP
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    Gropecunt Lane Londinium
    Age
    44
    Posts
    5,710
    Thanks
    8,204
    Thanked 12,550 Times in 5,225 Posts

    Default Re: Got slapped by google - webmaster tools message

    Quote Originally Posted by xxsaumitraxx View Post
    My friend warned me about using GWT, but I am still using it. I guess I should remove it as soon as possible, as a lot of people here made it clear.
    If you are already using it on sites then just keep it.
    I still use it on some sites, I just won't add any really BH sites in future.

  23. The Following User Says Thank You to W130SN For This Useful Post:

    xxsaumitraxx (04-24-2014)

  24. #21
    xxsaumitraxx's Avatar
    xxsaumitraxx is offline Jr. VIP
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    /tmp
    Posts
    1,205
    Thanks
    324
    Thanked 2,049 Times in 529 Posts

    Default Re: Got slapped by google - webmaster tools message

    Quote Originally Posted by W130SN View Post
    If you are already using it on sites then just keep it.
    I still use it on some sites, I just won't add any really BH sites in future.
    yeah, I'll keep that in mind and won't use it in future Thanks for the suggestion.

  25. #22
    curiousrake is offline Newbies
    Join Date
    Mar 2014
    Posts
    18
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default Re: Got slapped by google - webmaster tools message

    Note to self: scew Google Webmaster Tool

  26. #23
    lancis's Avatar
    lancis is online now Supreme Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Milky Way
    Posts
    1,418
    Thanks
    270
    Thanked 1,949 Times in 839 Posts

    Default Re: Got slapped by google - webmaster tools message

    Use Yandex webmaster tools if you really need to track on-site errors - its pretty much the same as GWT.

  27. #24
    reallife's Avatar
    reallife is online now Jr. VIP
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Posts
    1,464
    Thanks
    256
    Thanked 390 Times in 289 Posts

    Default Re: Got slapped by google - webmaster tools message

    Quote Originally Posted by hardcorebiker View Post
    Not really. You can't even imagine how much info is being sent by using GWT. I never used GWT and so my spam sites never tanked unless there was a major update like penguin. It can't be luck since I have tried this on TONS of sites. Try ignoring GWT and you will have a better piece of mind.
    I never put a site into GWT until after it's been slapped, and I've had a bunch of black hat sites slammed over the last couple of years without being in there. After it's hit, I put a site into GWT for the purposes of reconsideration. It's worked a couple of times (but then the sites got slapped again a few months later anyway lol)

    Just submitted one for reconsideration early this week, today they changed the penalty from "unnatural linking" to "violates Google quality guidelines" - the penalty you can NEVER figure out. It was my nicest site, too

  28. #25
    mqs1000 is offline Regular Member
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Posts
    487
    Thanks
    146
    Thanked 50 Times in 31 Posts

    Default Re: Got slapped by google - webmaster tools message

    I don't understand everyone saying not to use webmaster tools. So these penalties wouldn't happen if I didn't sign up for webmaster tools? So I can spam the shit out of my site with links, and as long as I don't use webmaster tools there won't be a penalty?

  29. #26
    twilightofidols's Avatar
    twilightofidols is offline Power Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Posts
    678
    Thanks
    61
    Thanked 215 Times in 134 Posts
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default Re: Got slapped by google - webmaster tools message

    OP do you mind sharing exactly how you triggered the manual?

  30. #27
    DexSmart's Avatar
    DexSmart is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    Houston, Texas
    Posts
    106
    Thanks
    11
    Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts

    Default Re: Got slapped by google - webmaster tools message

    You need to wait 2 updates to take effect !

  31. #28
    wizdorf's Avatar
    wizdorf is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Posts
    107
    Thanks
    4
    Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts

    Default Re: Got slapped by google - webmaster tools message

    I do have to chuckle at the people claiming that disavowing links when receiving an unnatural link penalty does anything. It doesn't. When you receive an unnatural link warning the only way, and best way to get the penalty removed is to start removing links.

    The faster you get started with removing links the faster you'll see some type of recovery or approval of a reconsideration request.

    Get started removing the unnatural links and provide that evidence to Google.

  32. #29
    topdown's Avatar
    topdown is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Fiverr :)
    Posts
    104
    Thanks
    70
    Thanked 40 Times in 26 Posts

    Default Re: Got slapped by google - webmaster tools message

    I've recovered all websites for few of my clients, but they were affected a while back when some blog networks were hit hard... I must say that all of them already had a local listing and after the manual spam action was revoked, in 1-2 weeks the rankings were aproximately back (not where they were previously, but still in top10).

    My theory is that they're probably giving more attention on verified websites, at least I would...

    Just my 2 cent about disavow not working myth

  33. #30
    Gyuman82's Avatar
    Gyuman82 is offline RichardYoshimura.com
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    Los Angeles
    Posts
    1,446
    Thanks
    166
    Thanked 819 Times in 383 Posts

    Default Re: Got slapped by google - webmaster tools message

    Just start over.

    If the domain name is somewhat disposable (ie not a brand), you're better off just starting over rather than use the Placebo Tool and praying.
    ~*~Need SEO Help? Monthly Plans From $299/mo (PM Me) ~*~
    Get Free SEO Tips & Training @ RichardYoshimura.com

  34. #31
    topdown's Avatar
    topdown is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Fiverr :)
    Posts
    104
    Thanks
    70
    Thanked 40 Times in 26 Posts

    Default Re: Got slapped by google - webmaster tools message

    Quote Originally Posted by wizdorf View Post
    I do have to chuckle at the people claiming that disavowing links when receiving an unnatural link penalty does anything. It doesn't. When you receive an unnatural link warning the only way, and best way to get the penalty removed is to start removing links.

    The faster you get started with removing links the faster you'll see some type of recovery or approval of a reconsideration request.

    Get started removing the unnatural links and provide that evidence to Google.
    I would recommend disavowing even the removed links as well, Google will have to re-crawl that page in order to acknowledge that your link was removed and this could take a while and your reconsideration request can not have the expected results.


Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 5
    Last Post: 07-25-2013, 02:04 PM
  2. [WP]Google Webmaster tools error message
    By Kaiser_Soze in forum Blogging
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 02-14-2013, 09:22 AM
  3. A strange message from Google Webmaster tools
    By Elmasry in forum Black Hat SEO
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 01-04-2013, 08:02 AM
  4. unatural links - webmaster tools message
    By Themrh in forum Black Hat SEO
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 03-28-2012, 10:45 AM
  5. Sites deindexed, but no message at Webmaster Tools
    By istanbul in forum Black Hat SEO
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 01-11-2012, 01:22 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  




BlackHatWorld on Twitter BlackHatWorld on FaceBook


1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108