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    Looks like Backlinks.com just got hit. Luckily I haven't used them in a while

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    Default Re: Backlinks.com Just Got Hit! Cutts Tweet

    It's crazy how he can get away with ruining businesses. It's not like spamming the internet's illegal and Google doesn't own the internet.

    Nonetheless, it's a very debated topic that frankly is boring as hell so I won't continue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ja1myn View Post
    It's crazy how he can get away with ruining businesses. It's not like spamming the internet's illegal and Google doesn't own the internet.

    Nonetheless, it's a very debated topic that frankly is boring as hell so I won't continue.
    Vendors rise and fall every other week because of the Google web spam team. I think Google has every right to target networks, but it's embarrassing for a multi-billion dollar company to target link building vendors from message boards that are 1-2 people teams - is that really the best use of time for people at Google who are making six-figure salaries (most likely a team of 20-100+)? Embarrassing if you ask me.

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    Default Re: Backlinks.com Just Got Hit! Cutts Tweet

    I wonder what would happen if the blackhat community started to target Google employee websites and started nuking them with spammy backlinks. That would end up being one hell of an ethical war front.

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    Default Re: Backlinks.com Just Got Hit! Cutts Tweet

    Oh so funny how Google needs to actively target networks and then post about it.

    Fix your algorithms to detect paid links

    Oh wait, you can't. GG google.

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    Default Re: Backlinks.com Just Got Hit! Cutts Tweet

    It is quite funny though how these link networks think all there little paid links are "undetectable". Now I know why Matt Cutts is laughing so hard.

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    Default Re: Backlinks.com Just Got Hit! Cutts Tweet

    We should all get together and spam the hell out of mrs cutts personal blog lol

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    Default Re: Backlinks.com Just Got Hit! Cutts Tweet

    Obviously he has something in place where neg SEO will never hurt his ranking because of that.

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    Default Re: Backlinks.com Just Got Hit! Cutts Tweet

    Quote Originally Posted by lucasbraydon View Post
    We should all get together and spam the hell out of mrs cutts personal blog lol
    Usually official Google blogs/services bypass the harsh conditions of the algorithm. It only makes sense, why would a Google service be on the bottom of the first page?

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    Default Re: Backlinks.com Just Got Hit! Cutts Tweet

    They are just trying to create a fear in the minds of webmasters......

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    Default Re: Backlinks.com Just Got Hit! Cutts Tweet

    The guy cracks me up.

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    Default Re: Backlinks.com Just Got Hit! Cutts Tweet

    It's like a top cop reporting about petty theft. Just sad and disgraceful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaylanewett View Post
    It is quite funny though how these link networks think all there little paid links are "undetectable". Now I know why Matt Cutts is laughing so hard.
    google doesnt target little networks. they target heavily advertised networks and networks that start gaining public exposure such as sape links.

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    Default Re: Backlinks.com Just Got Hit! Cutts Tweet

    the best use of these guys time is to sit around and target a few networks .. just doesn't make sense to me

    they should just be trying to improve their technology full stop

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    Default Re: Backlinks.com Just Got Hit! Cutts Tweet

    btw I'm pretty much sure I know how they detect such networks.
    For example, we have a small-to-mid-sized network. We buy a big package of links on this network. This package represents, say, 1% of sites in the network. Maybe even less.
    So, we flag 1% of sites as link sellers.
    Then we scrap all outbound links on these sites. And look for other sites with outbound links which somewhat intersect by domain with this 1% of links on already flagged sites. 100% intersection is not needed. I think intersection with just a few percent is enough. These other sites are link sellers too and they are added to the pool of flagged sites. Rinse, repeat, several iterations.
    Now we got 90% of sites in the network. They are "bad". Let's select all the sites which have they PR mostly from the bad sites and apply a penalty on them. Negative-seoed authority sites will mostly be not affected as they have significant part of their PR flown from other, "good" sites.

    This process is cheap and requires only a small deposit to flag the first 1%. Rest can be automated.


    This is why the target small networks so successfully. This is why SAPE (huge pool of very differentdonor sites, hard to find intersection) is not affected as much as small networks yet. This is why SAPE sites which sell more than 1 link/page and/or have many pages on SAPE are affected the most and the most dangerous.

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    Default Re: Backlinks.com Just Got Hit! Cutts Tweet

    Its nothing more than a scare tactic otherwise there was no need for him to tweet such insignificant stuff.

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    i dont understand why he tweets for such things. He (Mutt) wants to impress his Boss and show How much I work...wtf!

    If you target some network keep it to yourself, Why to post about it publicly. And why dont you create algos which can handle paid links...
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    Default Re: Backlinks.com Just Got Hit! Cutts Tweet

    Google doesn't do shit. The person you outranked gives Google the backlinks and Google just investigates and nukes em! Your competition is doing all the dirty work for Google according to inside sources. Remember the URL to report suspicious backlink activities, well they get tons of reports, that's why Matt Cutts is laughing his head off!

    Why spend money to investigate while you have thousands of webmasters as master spies. And as a side note, no publicly sold blog network is safe anyway. If you want peace of mind about your true money site, build your own blog network and keep it to yourself. Buying links from a publicly sold blog network involves risk, so just deal with it if you get caught.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny1111 View Post
    the best use of these guys time is to sit around and target a few networks .. just doesn't make sense to me

    they should just be trying to improve their technology full stop
    100% agree they need to focus on improving their overall algo, but I do think they have the right to target networks as well. The fact that they target 1-2 man operations (some of which are only found here on BHW or other message boards) with their "expert" team, doesn't show good use of their resources. Also, at the rate we see new networks popping up, this doesn't even begin to stop the marketers that rely on churn and burn methods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldendeli View Post
    Oh so funny how Google needs to actively target networks and then post about it.

    Fix your algorithms to detect paid links

    Oh wait, you can't. GG google.
    And that's the truth that these Google tweets reveal.

    Link networks work, it's just that 99.999% of people can't be bothered to set up their own or don't have the time/resources so they use advertised ones which makes Googles job easier.

    You don't really need many links these days, just a handful of really good quality ones, so if you want to succeed without Google slapping you then just do it yourself.

    Everyone needs to be smarter a bit like how terrorist organisations set themselves up - we the webmasters when we use big networks are like a standing army, Google can see us and track us and hit us with the heavy artillery.

    But if we split into tiny cells like terrorist organisations do then it becomes virtually impossible for them to actively do anything about us - there is no target to aim at anymore.

    They might get lucky and take out the odd one or 2, but it'll be drops in the ocean.

    That's the future IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bartholomew View Post
    btw I'm pretty much sure I know how they detect such networks.
    For example, we have a small-to-mid-sized network. We buy a big package of links on this network. This package represents, say, 1% of sites in the network. Maybe even less.
    So, we flag 1% of sites as link sellers.
    Then we scrap all outbound links on these sites. And look for other sites with outbound links which somewhat intersect by domain with this 1% of links on already flagged sites. 100% intersection is not needed. I think intersection with just a few percent is enough. These other sites are link sellers too and they are added to the pool of flagged sites. Rinse, repeat, several iterations.
    Not to be a dick homey, but duh. Thats exactly how they bust a significant portion of a network.

    With backlinks.com it was super easy they didn't even need to spend much money or time to get a ton of websites that sell links.

    Get an account, login, and theres the URL of the site selling a link. Sure they cap the number of URLs you can view to try and stop google but do that a with a few accounts or tell backlinks.com you are a huge seo company and need to have your urls unlocked and youc an check practically all of the urls they sell.

    Add that to the fact that backlinks.com pretty much owned a large portion of the sites links they sold and used the same whois info and its super easy to find the sites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldendeli View Post
    Not to be a dick homey, but duh. Thats exactly how they bust a significant portion of a network.

    With backlinks.com it was super easy they didn't even need to spend much money or time to get a ton of websites that sell links.

    Get an account, login, and theres the URL of the site selling a link. Sure they cap the number of URLs you can view to try and stop google but do that a with a few accounts or tell backlinks.com you are a huge seo company and need to have your urls unlocked and youc an check practically all of the urls they sell.

    Add that to the fact that backlinks.com pretty much owned a large portion of the sites links they sold and used the same whois info and its super easy to find the sites.
    Also, many people buy several links at a time. If Google finds the sites of say, 10, maybe 100 buyers, all they do is look for sites they have in common. On a large scale it would reveal the network very quickly as buyers have many backlinks in common.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gorang View Post
    Also, many people buy several links at a time. If Google finds the sites of say, 10, maybe 100 buyers, all they do is look for sites they have in common. On a large scale it would reveal the network very quickly as buyers have many backlinks in common.
    absolutely, however backlinks.com made it very easy to get started on that list and no need to guess which are apart of their network or not.

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    google's tactics are largely psychological. they did penguin/panda, suddenly everyone is shouting 'links don't work' and start building beautiful websites with 'useful content' thinking that they will rank.

    google's tactic is hit one or two link networks, tweet about it and let the 'psychological update' do the real spam-cleanup work. budget friendly for the spam team and highly effective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dkextbmx View Post
    Looks like Backlinks.com just got hit. Luckily I haven't used them in a while

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    Wow yet another aged account with low post count spreading google FUD here on BHW!? Can't be!

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    Default Re: Backlinks.com Just Got Hit! Cutts Tweet

    Matt Cutts is doing something that is perfectly normal for a company. He's endearing himself to the white hat community and using shock and awe tactics. Yes, he's targeting small time resellers but they're doing it in a way to put off small businesses that are looking for a quick win. Google doesn't give a fuck about some SERPs and they know that they'll never win against BH. Why? Because it's much easier to patch something then try and think ahead of the game. Every algo is then probed by thousands, maybe millions of aff marketers. They don't have that man power.

    But what they don't want is the average business using shitty links to rank. So it's more a case of chest beating than being embarrassing. Matt Cutts is saying "Try what you want, we'll get you". It would've taken his team a lunch break to find Anglo Rank and knock it about abit. Same with Backlinks.com

    As much as you think Google cares about your churn and burn website, they don't give a flying fuck. They want to stop the average business user getting hold of these links and dominating the serps.


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