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    Default Local Results, Complete Fail (Matt Cutts I hope you read this)

    I'm simply amazed by Google. Every time I search for something local on Google I just want to punch my cell phone / computer.
    For example, you looking to get a haircut in Santa Monica? Keyword "haircut santa monica", 110 exact searches
    Well let's type that in into Google (right) and Bing (left) (talk about bing it on challenge):
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    Look Google, if I wanted to see YELP listings I'd go to YELP. Fine, you have a hard on for yelp, well put 1-2 yelp listings, not 10+ ....I actually like to go to a business website from time to time and check out pictures and not browse YELP and Yellow Pages all day when I search for something local.

    Great user experience dumbasses (Cutts, especially you with your BS talk about update where you said that "sites with more then 1 result on the 1st page will now merge into just 1" ) a 3 year old can write a better algo.


    Now I understand your algo isn't perfect, but it's a complete sh*t now ...

    Just type in anything:
    hair salon santa monica - first 4 is YELP
    hair salon los angeles - again, first 4 is YELP + 3 YELLOW PAGES LISTINGS

    Let's switch it up and type in:
    locksmith los angeles - oh, SURPRISEEEEEE, first 4 is YELP
    plumber los angeles - F*cking YELP AGAIN in top 2 and Yellowpages #3?


    So, you know what? IF I EVER DECIDE TO ADVERTISE LOCALLY I'LL JUST SKIP GOOGLE MAPS, AND GO TO YELP AND YELLOWPAGES ....
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    Same thing is happening in other niches. In travel you get two or three sites in 70% of results..... I've been saying Google looks like Overture, for all practical purposes those look like paid listings by these big brands....

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    I work in Silicon Valley and saw Jeremy Stoppelman giving Cutts a handjob in the bathroom at the Hilton in Mountain View, wasn't shocking.
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    Default Re: Local Results, Complete Fail (Matt Cutts I hope you read this)

    I'm sure Matt Cutts will read your thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackwp View Post
    I'm sure Matt Cutts will read your thread
    He probably will:


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    Default Re: Local Results, Complete Fail (Matt Cutts I hope you read this)

    Even after changing my location to Santa Monica, CA I saw a bunch of Yelp listings before the local places...ridiculous.
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    Someone should tweet this thread to Cutts, see what he says.

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    One of my Irish sites. Optimised geographically for Ireland, a .ie domain. Is now ranking no5 in New Zealand......I could'nt make this shit up !


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    Quote Originally Posted by Russian425 View Post
    Someone should tweet this thread to Cutts, see what he says.
    He won't say anything, he's too afraid of my signature.

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    Let's get it featured on search engine land and round table?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bartosimpsonio View Post
    He won't say anything, he's too afraid of my signature.
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    Default Re: Local Results, Complete Fail (Matt Cutts I hope you read this)

    Surprise! Cutts in Santa Monica:


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    The same happened with payday loans I think!


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    Seems like Google is going to shit now. I saw a thread the other day about a member here making damn good money by not even focusing on Google. Even though I am ranking for some terms, I may make a test transition. I'd suggest some of you do the same. A test transition, that is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lancis View Post
    Surprise! Cutts in Santa Monica:
    Holy Shit, Yelp is not #1??????? WTF??????????? Must be a flaw in the algo.
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    Yeah this is a major issue for me too (i live in the LA area)

    I have actually demoted myself to using bing for local results. on Google, (cityname) dentist for example, top 3 results for my locality is all yelp. 4th is a PURE SAPE site (lol) then its the local 7 pack. Then full of yellow pages crap.

    Weaker local business's such as Tailor, I have noticed got hit even harder. First 6 results for _____ trailor returns ALL Yelp etc Then its the local 7 pack. Then yellow pages, superpages, citysearch.

    How annoying. Especially since we all know Yelp's extortion tactics when it comes to local business's. It seems like if you don't pay off Yelp, you won't be be able to rank for local keywords on Google. Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by chumpss View Post
    Yeah this is a major issue for me too (i live in the LA area)

    I have actually demoted myself to using bing for local results. (cityname) dentist for example, top 3 results for my locality is all yelp. 4th is a SAPE site (lol) then its the local 7 pack. Then full of yellow pages crap.

    Weaker local business's such as Tailor, I have noticed got hit even harder. 8/10 result for _____ trailer returns yelp/yellowpages/superpages etc
    No need to demote yourself in this case. Google adjusts itself as people get more Internet savvy. When I need a dentist I just modify my search a bit:

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    dentist in los angeles -site:yelp.com -site:yellowpages.com -site:whitepages.com -site:mattcutts.com
    On a more serious note. Local results are not the only Google's problem. Long tail is what bothers me most (not as an internet marketer, but as a user). They doing the classical mistake of trying to guess what I wanted to say, instead just searching for what I asked. As expected, they guess it wrong 9 times out of 10.
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    Default Re: Local Results, Complete Fail (Matt Cutts I hope you read this)

    Same in the UK, people are looking for businesses WITHOUT having to go through a directory, (thus saving several clicks in the process). Hey I gained from this penguin 2.1 but for local searches it's a joke. It's not yelp, it is directories in general, flooding the first page. I doubt this will drive adwords usage up, but no doubt this is the plan. It is possible to defy this insanity I am doing it just now but to be honest people will look in the local paper instead soon.

    Bing, well if you have an emd , well done you have #1 in bing. It's sad but if you do local, get into local marketing , then you don't need google rankings. Most small businesses have been spoon fed they need to rank on G, (by people like us!!) time to switch their thinking. It'll take time but it is a whole new ball game, (read MONEY). I don't really bother with what google does, I adapt. I agree local terms are looking very poor. I'm sure yelp etc saw G ok for this update. A searcher wants a payday not news and reviews on one, a searcher wants an electrician not to have to trawl through 3-4 clicks to find one then go back and repeat. If I wanted ASK search engine results I'd go there no google. Anyway continue your battle with spam by all means but let people find what they are looking for without having to click 3-4 times.

    Mr Cutts , turn the light off when you leave G, you will be the last out !

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    Default Re: Local Results, Complete Fail (Matt Cutts I hope you read this)

    So forget adwords and SEO

    Work on your Yelp listings instead


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    who is Matt Cutts? I thought google was just a bot

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    Default Re: Local Results, Complete Fail (Matt Cutts I hope you read this)

    You watch googler make a bid to buyout yelp in 2014,,, yelp sells advertsing,,, googler sells advertising,,, yelp gets the primo spots across the board,,then buyout,, the landscape is all set up to dominate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by b1step-ahead View Post
    You watch googler make a bid to buyout yelp in 2014,,, yelp sells advertsing,,, googler sells advertising,,, yelp gets the primo spots across the board,,then buyout,, the landscape is all set up to dominate.
    Actually I wouldn't be surprised.

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    Start backlinking to your yelp listing / page....do you realize how powerful this is?
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    Until a jealous competitor comes in a puts up a bunch of fake negative reviews.

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    Start backlinking to your yelp listing / page....do you realize how powerful this is?

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    It's the same in my area. I've been trying to figure out how to beat yelp for awhile now.
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    Matt likes to mock BHW in his childish tweets when he manages to cause some damage in one of his random algo updates but when legitimate examples of complete and utter failures by Google to bring fair results I see he keeps very quiet. Come on Matt be a man, admit there are some major floors in your baby

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    Quote Originally Posted by ibmethatswhoib View Post
    Until a jealous competitor comes in a puts up a bunch of fake negative reviews.

    My thoughts exactly, I wouldn't depend on yelp as a stable source for local business unless your paying for advertising, only then are they willing to help a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toasia View Post
    Matt likes to mock BHW in his childish tweets when he manages to cause some damage in one of his random algo updates but when legitimate examples of complete and utter failures by Google to bring fair results I see he keeps very quiet. Come on Matt be a man, admit there are some major floors in your baby
    Most likely it's not a flaw. Yelp usually owns top3 results in Google for any local service related keyword. Looks like they just bought that shit. Someone needs to tweet to Cutts and point him to this thread, or can seroundtable write something about it?

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    yes.. i come across this many times.. its irritating when you search for something and your search results are something else.. Google please stop guessing!! and find what i asked for..

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    YELP might be paying Google to show their results on top 5 whatever is searched.. I always skip the 1st page now and check things on 2nd page.

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    Bing has been better than Google for local listings for *awhile* now, not just after Penguin 2.1

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    Those directory sites and the Search Engines have killed the smaller online businesses. Matt Cutts is one of those who are inefficient at the top level. Imagine, he is in charge of spam department and has spam reduced? In fact, it is growing every day. So Matt Cutts should resign logically, isn't it? But NO, he stays put. May be, he is married to G's chiefs' wives and daughters imo. Why would anyone continue in the job if he/she is as inefficient as Matt Cutts, will he/she be there on the payroll the next Monday? Not applicable for MC though... Time has proved it time and again, yet he is firmly in place as if he is the king...

    So there is no hope for small businesses. No one can sue G too because everyone has agreed to whatever it's written in its T&C...

    Small businesses have no options whatsoever on the internet because of such idiots.


    @ MC: GTFO....
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    Quote Originally Posted by BENNY8877 View Post
    He probably will:

    Go on James stick your tongue further up his arsehole in the hope that he will leave your sites alone. I love reading the Matt Cutts brown nose Tweets. Some people are truly very very pathetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickyfu View Post
    Go on James stick your tongue further up his arsehole in the hope that he will leave your sites alone. I love reading the Matt Cutts brown nose Tweets. Some people are truly very very pathetic.
    See the top result. lol...this really made my day.

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    Talking of hair-cut, here is how guys at Google punish Matt Cutts!



    Somewhere in the video he looks real idiot...

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    Default Re: Local Results, Complete Fail (Matt Cutts I hope you read this)

    Folks, do your keyword research. I see a similar trend in Houston, but there are search terms, especially in services, that do not show yelp listings. I see this across multiple niches from my customers. Sometimes there is a keyword that shows no yelp that you can grab up quite easily.

    It seems maybe to be related to the fact that when a service is not a major yelp category, there are less/no yelp listings in the top 10.

    Can someone confirm seeing this too? I have the top spot on a lot of keywords that do not show yelp at all.

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    Lol at Google once again. Just finished researching a Russian medical niche for a friend, the findings are shocking:

    - Yandex: first 10 results all belong to the major country hospitals
    - Google: first 10 results all belong to crappy middleman, and by crappy I mean crappy

    Yandex 1 - 0 Google

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    Let's get it featured on search engine land and round table?
    It did! BHW,, you read it hear first,,, as usual.

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    A couple of things you should know:

    1) Matt Cutts decides the PR of each and every webpage Google has indexed on his birthday with only a copy of Microsoft Excel 97 and 256 cans of Red Bull. That's the real Google algorithm.

    2) If you provoke his wrath all PRs of all webpages will reset to 0! (Except yelp)
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    Did a search yesterday on my phone for a friend who wanted to know which time the local bus went to town.

    I knew the timetable was on the town website, so typed in townhallwebsite.com bus timetable "station" "area of town where he lives"

    You can't get much more specific that that I think...so what did I get?

    Some houses for sale in the area where he lives
    and some effing tourist accounts of how they had a nice day and took the bus from town to the local attractions.

    Seriously Google?

    You suck.

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    Matt Cutts must feel like a celebrity with all you people going bonkers.

    Soon enough he'll be competing with Justin Bieber.
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    Matt Cutts must feel like a celebrity with all you people going bonkers.

    Soon enough he'll be competing with Justin Bieber.
    He already passed that just from his payday loan site.

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