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    Seems Matt cutts has been true to his words... first page which was once full of "black hat methods" ranked sites for "payday loans" is now pretty much cleared up...

    i managed to rank 2nd and 8th on page one a few days ago, i lasted 8 hours, then was totally sandboxed...
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    Default Re: The Death Of Blackhat in Payday Loans niche UK???

    This may just be a start, they may go after more highly searched niches now.

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    Default Re: The Death Of Blackhat in Payday Loans niche UK???

    Payday loans is the most spammed niche along with car insurance, sites will still rank but for shorter period of time then it used to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCLEBUCK View Post
    Seems Matt cutts has been true to his words... first page which was once full of "black hat methods" ranked sites for "payday loans" is now pretty much cleared up...

    i managed to rank 2nd and 8th on page one a few days ago, i lasted 8 hours, then was totally sandboxed...

    Did you make your money back though?

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    Default Re: The Death Of Blackhat in Payday Loans niche UK???

    Not dead at all.

    Will just take longer than a few hours this time round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCLEBUCK View Post
    Seems Matt cutts has been true to his words... first page which was once full of "black hat methods" ranked sites for "payday loans" is now pretty much cleared up...

    i managed to rank 2nd and 8th on page one a few days ago, i lasted 8 hours, then was totally sandboxed...
    Was the 8 hours any good? How much did you earn from it if you don't mind sharing.

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    i made a small profit, but no longer are we talking 000's i will have to adapt to the new surroundings.. and find a way
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    Did you make any money?

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    you could make 5000 a day put it that way...
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    That niche is manually reviewed. End of story
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    well thats that then i guess....
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    i missed the boat.... again
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    Default Re: The Death Of Blackhat in Payday Loans niche UK???

    hahaha. proper blackhat looks like whitehat but only you know is BH. if u break the rules and go BH and even more you do a poor job at it then don't compain the sites get slammed. is normal. when you take shortcuts dont expect to survive long at the top and if you do consider yourself lucky. that being said, there are niches where even if u rank a week you bank hard

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    How do you people monetize payday loans? with adsense or something or do you have your own bank?

    Or do you use some sort of affiliate system with a payday loans company who gives you a percentage of the 10000000000000000000% apr rate they charge customers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCLEBUCK View Post
    i missed the boat.... again
    Surely if you were able to rank in the payday niche you can make some serious bank in the other niches ? Seeing as it is one of the hardest.

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    Default Re: The Death Of Blackhat in Payday Loans niche UK???

    In USA you can go through an affiliate system.. You don't need a consumer credit licence
    in the uk you now need lots of compliance and lenders are asking you provide a consumer credit licence.. Yes there is big money in it.
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    Default Re: The Death Of Blackhat in Payday Loans niche UK???

    I'd be interested in hearing what other finance related niches are big currently?

    Even niches in general really?
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    Default Re: The Death Of Blackhat in Payday Loans niche UK???

    Quote Originally Posted by UNCLEBUCK View Post
    I'd be interested in hearing what other finance related niches are big currently?

    Even niches in general really?
    credit report i suppose not sure though

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    Default Re: The Death Of Blackhat in Payday Loans niche UK???

    Number 7 in the UK for payday loans is a Facebook page with 55 words and 33 "likes" since October 2012. Not got a single link and only 2 comments ever.

    Google have lost the fucking plot


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    Default Re: The Death Of Blackhat in Payday Loans niche UK???

    I am seeing some strange results too, although I think the Facebook page you are referring to has 28k links, thats what im seeing in Ahrefs.

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    Default The Death Of Blackhat in Payday Loans niche UK???

    Interesting. I wonder how they really do it. I don't think they would do pure manual review, it would be too expensive, and I don't think it would be smart enough.

    I would have thought manual review would be used more just to test and revise an automated strategy. Unless someone knows that's incorrect?

    What do the sites look like in the top ten?
    What's their profile like and so on?
    Would be good for someone to analyze.

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    There always will be SERP movements in this niche, also "SEO company" and other highly competitive

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    I think you need to see that as a success for you, because it is HARD to do that. Actually, I can feel your pain - but there's nothing to do. Even 8 hours should have brang you some cash, what do you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCLEBUCK View Post
    Seems Matt cutts has been true to his words... first page which was once full of "black hat methods" ranked sites for "payday loans" is now pretty much cleared up...

    i managed to rank 2nd and 8th on page one a few days ago, i lasted 8 hours, then was totally sandboxed...
    It certainly looks better now than it did earlier today, and yesterday especially, but to be honest it's still jumping all over the place. I don't anticipate it settling down in the near future, if at all. It might even be their tactic to get it jumping all over the shop so that less than white sites can't get a grip on #1 for longer than it takes to fry an egg

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    the latter. lead gen

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    Default Re: The Death Of Blackhat in Payday Loans niche UK???

    So OP, were you using affiliates or adsense? Curious...


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    Cheers everyone.. Yes I'm chuffed I actually achieved my goal all be it 8 hours...
    I will crack on and tweak some methods and see if I can repeat.. Will keep all updated.
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    No not Adsense, standard built websites, with decent onsite.. Then with the use of a number of good services here on bhw to compliment and rank me faster
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    Did the affiliates pay a good percentage?

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    You can find some affiliate networks that pay about 35 an accepted lead
    u can use a more generalised affiliate network for many different offers such as webgains.com and give u many more opportunities and they pay on time etc and reportings good.
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    So yes check out webgains.com works well for me ...
    I think payday will pretty much shut up shop this year and fading out so it's all about finding the "next thing" ... What that will be I'm still not sure..
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCLEBUCK View Post
    No not Adsense, standard built websites, with decent onsite.. Then with the use of a number of good services here on bhw to compliment and rank me faster
    Services on here to rank for payday loans? Get real. You're probably promoting someone's service to all the little kids PM'ing you asking you how you did it.

    A few of your other comments didn't make sense either.

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    LOL you know you didn't rank for payday loans. Adding details like "ah shucks it was only up for 8 hrs" doesn't make it any more believable. Why do some people have to lie about stupid shit?
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    The hate here is unreal. He did actually rank for payday loans in the UK, had 2 sites ranking first page, and he done so for the time he metioned. I know this, as i also deal with the niche, ranking my own sites, so monitor it multiple times a day, and i know which sites were his. Just to note, i see our favourite guy is back again in 1st place, so Mr Cutts obviously still has his work cut out...........

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    Number 1 site looks on point.

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    Lol yes to all the haters I did.. I'm not promoting any service I was asked which affiliate service I recommed and I did..
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    What's the drop off with long tails in that niche ?

    Is it worth your while targeting cities or regions or terms like unemployment payday loans ?
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    5 of the top ten results for 'payday loans' in google.com have 0 backlinks (using ahrefs). And you say blackhat is dead?

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    I said co.uk for this niche is getting manually reviewed..
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    It's just become harder .. Doesn't mean you can't do it though. Il get there aagain if I want too I'm sure.
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