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    Hello guys,

    Matt cutts tweeted that he has made an update targeting "spammy" aka money making keywords.
    This is why some of you might have seen some shuffling around the serp today or/yesterday.

    Here is the link for the tweet : https://twitter.com/mattcutts/status/344574964365672448

    There are absolutely no evidence like some might have claimed that this update was targeting sape links even if you were hit and you were using them, it might be only due to the fact that you are targetting this kind of keywords.

    Good luck !

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    The secret method that google uses to determine new updates.

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    I'm tracking six of the top blackhat sites in the payday loans niche. You can see the rankings for yourself (login details to rankranger are lower on the page).

    Five of the six blackhat sites i was tracking have been wiped from the SERPs.

    Here is a brief overview of the data. Go to agentblackhat.com/serp-watch to see more detailed info.

    In the image you might notice the down arrow is only a small number but the overall is a huge drop, this is because the keywords have dropped past position 500.

    payday loans rankings.jpg

    I imagine this is all manual action as the algorithm is not intelligent enough to discover such sites on its own.

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    Thank you Gorang !
    I've been reading your blog and logged in the rankranger account 3 or 4 days ago. It's a really nice idea !
    Whether it's manual action or algorithmic is hard to guess, but there has been an action for sure.

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    Ya, doing great work Gorang, love actual the data.

    Quote Originally Posted by ficfroc View Post
    Thank you Gorang !
    I've been reading your blog and logged in the rankranger account 3 or 4 days ago. It's a really nice idea !
    Whether it's manual action or algorithmic is hard to guess, but there has been an action for sure.
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    I have some sites that survived... others died in the same niche with the same type of links.

    Perhaps Gorang is right - maybe they took manual action... on specific IPs they knew to be "repeat" spammers in certain niches?

    I haven't had time to compare the data, but it's interesting that some of my sites rank the same (on large keywords), while others are gone.

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    Every update, g00gle targets and deindex sape links. Not all of them but certainly a fraction of them. We all know this.
    I don't even know why people would buy sape links when there are other blog networks to choose from that will provide the same quality and has less chance of getting deindex than SAPE.

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    I just got hit. 2 sites same niche. Both been wiped off the serps for the same keyword. BUT they are still ranking for other keywords.

    Gutted. I was banking. Now back to the drawing board. AAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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    Hello weBay.
    Thanks for reporting, No worries I'm pretty sure you'll find out a way to get your rankings back.
    The fact that you are still ranking on other keywords shows that this "update" or "filter" target very specific keywords.
    There are many people reporting in other threads that they were using sape before they got hit today. I personally don't beleive that it related to sape.
    Do you mind saying if you were using it ?

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    No sape on these sites. Pretty sure its nothing to do with my links.


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    The question is, will the same tactics work to get ranked again?


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    Yay, less competition!
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    I also have some sites in the same niche that got it and i didn't use Sape links in any of them so i agree that this update might have targeted "money keywords".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cad01 View Post
    I also have some sites in the same niche that got it and i didn't use Sape links in any of them so i agree that this update might have targeted "money keywords".
    There's gonna be a lot of overlap, no matter what. Some money keywords are spammy by nature (pharma, gambling, payday loans etc) and I wouldn't be surprised if there were a lot of false positives.
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    all my blogs which were ranking on 1st page of google are ranking on 2nd-3rd page now! i didn't do any backlinking at all, just made them before a month!!

    I am seeing little drop in traffic for my other sites too.

    Lets see how big this update can be. then only we can come up with solutions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yogi31286 View Post
    all my blogs which were ranking on 1st page of google are ranking on 2nd-3rd page now! i didn't do any backlinking at all, just made them before a month!!

    I am seeing little drop in traffic for my other sites too.

    Lets see how big this update can be. then only we can come up with solutions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seo-addict View Post
    Perhaps Gorang is right - maybe they took manual action... on specific IPs they knew to be "repeat" spammers in certain niches?
    cant be.. 2 of my sites got hit and they were not on page 2-3 for almost all the terms.. now 250+ :|
    FU google :|

    its just a fuckin wheel of fortune..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reyone View Post
    If you havent done any BLs and it is pure content and you started working on them a month ago... google dance dude, dont worry
    Hmm.. i am just waiting and checking rank every hour to know the changes. will update if i get my ranks back.

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    News just in ... Russian Mafia to take out Matt Cutts before he hits SAPE

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    Default Re: A new google update today targetting money keywords

    And me. I didnt feel a thing, but I'm not targetting very spammy kws... So I guess thats why

    Anyway I wonder if you guys got hit for your anchor distribution, anyone who got hit mind sharing what percentage they used?

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    The big news here is that they are starting to dismantle tiers and devalue links from these tiers.

    Gonna be a lot of crying on this forum soon.

    Quote Originally Posted by weBay View Post
    The question is, will the same tactics work to get ranked again?
    I think the power of backlinking is on he wane, the "SEO is backlinks" crowd is going to be lost.
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    I have one keyword "xxxxxx reviews" from 3 different sites (same niche) have an identical dropped of 300+ position. Will wait and see how other keywords are perform.

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    Subscribed.

    We've seen 4 of our sites getting hit hard, we also used SAPE on them but the rest of the network is VERY strong so deffo wasnt targeting SAPE.

    Looks like its what the OP said, its the keyword that got hit, also 2 of my competitors got wiped out too.

    Good thing is is some inner pages of our network took their place so however they settle down we still win

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    Damn, two of my sites dropped from page 1 to page 3. Traffic dropped 80%.

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    This shit crays, I tell you...

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    Quote Originally Posted by alaltaierii View Post
    Damn, two of my sites dropped from page 1 to page 3. Traffic dropped 80%.
    what type of terms you were targetting? such as "payday loans" ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Techxan View Post
    The big news here is that they are starting to dismantle tiers and devalue links from these tiers.

    Gonna be a lot of crying on this forum soon.



    I think the power of backlinking is on he wane, the "SEO is backlinks" crowd is going to be lost.
    How the hell in th the world did you know that they detecting tiers and devaluing their rankings? "SEO backlinks crowd is going to lost".. Then how all the current ranking websites are ranking? By lottery?

    Stop speaking crap and wait until the SERPs settle down to jump to conclusions. I've many sites only using tier backlinking and all I can see since the update started rolling are positive results.

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    I Think So

    It Hits Sape Links...

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    Been hit a week ago for one of my websites. First 100+ visitors a day from Google organic, now only 3 visitors. Post unique content ever day, no blackhat techniques... Google is just weird.

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    Sape is still doing fine, some of my sites which were not having a single sape link also got hit, i checked google ranking and i still see sites ranking with sape. This update is something else, will find out in few days.
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    2 my sites got hit... might be dance..or bye bye

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdmostfa View Post
    How the hell in th the world did you know that they detecting tiers and devaluing their rankings? "SEO backlinks crowd is going to lost".. Then how all the current ranking websites are ranking? By lottery?

    Stop speaking crap and wait until the SERPs settle down to jump to conclusions. I've many sites only using tier backlinking and all I can see since the update started rolling are positive results.

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    just lost 2K domains in WMT! impressions down, traffic up!? WTF!?

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    I am tracking 200+ keywords in "money making" keywords. Yesterday I had 157 keywords ranked in the top 100 and today I have 111. However I will say, none of my most profitable rankings dropped. I noticed that the sites that last rankings were all from recent projects.
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    Searchengineland has wrote a post about this update, they've called it the payday loan update, even thought it targets much more than this query.
    It seems like this update hit TURKEY much more than any other country.
    here you go for the link. http://searchengineland.com/google-p...queries-162941
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    You should watch Matt Cutts and John Meuller's videos for this stuff.
    Could you share any link to start digging please ?

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    Newbie Alert: I'm not sure what Money Making keywords are...are these "make money with + whatever method", does it include "Product Name + Review" type of keywords?

    I don't think I get it, Google is penalizing websites that are targeting these terms? What do they want to show up on SERPS when people search for such terms...websites that just mention the phrase in passing???

    I may have missed something, and if someone could enlighten me, I would appreciate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewanderingpen View Post
    Newbie Alert: I'm not sure what Money Making keywords are...are these "make money with + whatever method", does it include "Product Name + Review" type of keywords?

    I don't think I get it, Google is penalizing websites that are targeting these terms? What do they want to show up on SERPS when people search for such terms...websites that just mention the phrase in passing???

    I may have missed something, and if someone could enlighten me, I would appreciate it.
    Money making keywords are search terms that convert to money with the right monetization on the site.

    "What Google wants?" - well, they don't want to look bad and they want to sustain their dominance in the market share and also to increase it. They do what they need to do and we need to do what benefits us. Everybody has its role in this world ;-)

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    Based on your definition of Money Making Keywords, almost every type of keyword is a money making keyword. With the right site layout, content, etc., even info-keywords can be monetized.

    Onto the second point, Google doesn't want to look bad so they punish sites that deliberately target money-keywords regardless if it provides quality content or not? If anything, that's going to make their SERPs for the money-making terms look terrible. It would only leave sites that mention the phrase in question in passing, and not really go to great depths to provide info regarding it.

    Quote Originally Posted by blacat View Post
    Money making keywords are search terms that convert to money with the right monetization on the site.

    "What Google wants?" - well, they don't want to look bad and they want to sustain their dominance in the market share and also to increase it. They do what they need to do and we need to do what benefits us. Everybody has its role in this world ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewanderingpen View Post
    Based on your definition of Money Making Keywords, almost every type of keyword is a money making keyword. With the right site layout, content, etc., even info-keywords can be monetized.

    Onto the second point, Google doesn't want to look bad so they punish sites that deliberately target money-keywords regardless if it provides quality content or not? If anything, that's going to make their SERPs for the money-making terms look terrible. It would only leave sites that mention the phrase in question in passing, and not really go to great depths to provide info regarding it.
    Regarding money keywords... Not every or almost every keyword is a money keyword. I'm not going to get into a debate here about it... it is just actual knowledge from my years in the business having different types of traffic to my sites.

    If you remember the case when the NYtimes outed JCPenny's SEO practices then you would know that Google doesn't want to look bad. Soon after that we received an aggressive Panda. I'm not saying that Panda came just because of that specific case, just saying these cases contributed to the aggressiveness of the updates.

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    I think I've been asking the wrong question. Yeah, let's not get into a debate. For this update, what sort of adjustments would keep us afloat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewanderingpen View Post
    I think I've been asking the wrong question. Yeah, let's not get into a debate. For this update, what sort of adjustments would keep us afloat?
    It's hard to say as in my opinion few updates were rolling since May 23rd. It started with Penguin 2.0 and seems like now a Panda started to roll out few days ago (according to Matt Cutts in the SMX conference).

    All in all, links still play a significant role in ranking. Diversify your anchor text, don't blast, use a significant portion of branded anchor, avoid getting links from low quality sites. With that said, make sure your site is decent in the content area and also visually. Also don't link to bad sites as well from your own site.

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    Working for a client in such a niche. All brand-related keywords went up!! Literally every other keyword dropped out of the hundred range. This is a nightmare.

    Funny thing is, for this client, we were actually working 100% whitehat, and most of the results that are up are pure pure blackhat GSA Search Engine Ranker type spam.

    Majorly competitive keyword is showing multiple one-page static affiliate sites IN THE FIRST PAGE.

    Well done to Matt Cunts and the Google web-spam team.

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    Anyone trying 301 redirect to new site to get around this? Might it work?


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    Anyone trying 301 redirect to new site to get around this? Might it work?
    From what I know you could infact do a 301 and rank and bank for a few days, but then you would get punched out of serps again again.

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    I wonder if they target blogspot seeing it belongs to them?

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