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    Default SAPE was hit in 2.0

    Seeing some huge deindexed numbers. Im sort of shocked considering a lot of the sites were hacked/legit sites. Anyone else?




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    Default Re: SAPE was hit in 2.0

    I'm hearing the same thing from some friends who have been hit.

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    Default Re: SAPE was hit in 2.0

    SAPE sites are mostly stable in ranking only those got hit with lots of deindexed links

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    Thats right

    i lost most of my rankings i never used any sape links till now

    Top site in my niche uses only sape links he is still on top

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    Default Re: SAPE was hit in 2.0

    SAPE got hit. Time to move on.


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    Default Re: SAPE was hit in 2.0

    Quote Originally Posted by cash202 View Post
    SAPE got hit. Time to move on.
    Not really. I'm seeing a lot of sites build almost only on SAPE links and they do great. Some even got #1 after this update ! I never used SAPE and i was thinking that this update will handle this but it seems that they still work

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    Default Re: SAPE was hit in 2.0

    Not all Sape sites were hit, thing is Google actually deindexed some part of Sape network couple of weeks back and if your backlinks were from those deindexed sites, then your ranking may have dropped.

    In next few week, Google may deindex more sites in Sape network, so don't bother using Sape now.

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    Sape has hundreds of thousands of websites. It's not possible to take them all down, regardless how hard Google tries. New fresh websites are being added all the time as old websites get deindexed. Sape isn't dying. I've seen plenty of people ranking with just Sape links recently.

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    Default Re: SAPE was hit in 2.0

    Just to be clear, I never said SAPE is dead, I simply said it was targeted and numerous sites were removed.

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    Default Re: SAPE was hit in 2.0

    Where can I find some actual numbers on the amount of SAPE sites that may have been deindexed in the past few days?

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    Default Re: SAPE was hit in 2.0

    only 2 of my clients sites dropped and only by about 7 positions (less than a page), the others are still going strong and increasing in ranking. some sites in SAPE got hit, but its easy to just replace the hit ones for other powerful SAPE links.

    SAPE still works!
    EXTREME SAPE: 500 PR2-4, PA20+, English only (.com, .info, .net, .org), powerful monthly links for only $400. Play with the big boys. ORDER NOW!

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    Default Re: SAPE was hit in 2.0

    6600 search term still #2
    5600 search term now #2 from #3

    hihihihihi sape is deaaaad

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    Default Re: SAPE was hit in 2.0

    Quote Originally Posted by cool.dude123 View Post
    only 2 of my clients sites dropped and only by about 7 positions (less than a page), the others are still going strong and increasing in ranking. some sites in SAPE got hit, but its easy to just replace the hit ones for other powerful SAPE links.

    SAPE still works!
    Agreed. It works. One of my sites saw a mild drop from #2 to #6 on one of its keywords. Other than that, all sites/keywords going strong... and the one dropped will be back even stronger after I'm done what I'm doing

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    Default Re: SAPE was hit in 2.0

    SAPE is still working. I saw some sites ranking in 1st position

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    Default Re: SAPE was hit in 2.0

    Don't believe the hype. Regardless of what it's about. Just because some people have seen or heard negative things about something or someone - doesn't mean the exact opposite hasn't happened. As such, when people complain something is dead, just laugh at them.

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    Default Re: SAPE was hit in 2.0

    my sape account has over 12000 backlinks, less than 1% backlink sites were delisted from google.

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    Quote Originally Posted by howard_hughes View Post
    my sape account has over 12000 backlinks, less than 1% backlink sites were delisted from google.
    Thanks for then info. Looks like sape is still good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by howard_hughes View Post
    my sape account has over 12000 backlinks, less than 1% backlink sites were delisted from google.
    Good, actually i bought Sape links from one of the member here and now when i check the backlink report, i found 27 links deindexed out of 100 links.

    I bought these link in mid march.

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    Default Re: SAPE was hit in 2.0

    Sape has hundreds of thousands of websites. It's not possible to take them all down, regardless how hard Google tries. New fresh websites are being added all the time as old websites get deindexed. Sape isn't dying. I've seen plenty of people ranking with just Sape links recently.
    Thats right. This huge animal won't go down so easy

    All my sites powered with SAPE are mostly up.

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    Default Re: SAPE was hit in 2.0

    SAPE is dead? Bullshit Over 5000 links in my sape account and non got deindexed! Maybe some of the sites that participate in the SAPE network got busted, but only the ones of the lowest quality. Which is very good if you think about it - much of the pure garbage in the SAPE network deserves to be excluded from the SERP as it is used for negative SEO exclusively. I have never liked this kind of SEO, it's immoral and unethical! So, this Penguin 2.0 will only do good to SAPE. The fact that I don't see any deindexed URLs in my account means that the selection I've made is 100% in accordance with the newest Google guidelines

    I see lost of my projects going up in the results since yesterday. SAPE will not perish. But the spammiest sites in it and the inexperienced SAPE providers that are only interested in taking their clients money definitely will.

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    Default Re: SAPE was hit in 2.0

    One of my sites got hit hard:

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    Default Re: SAPE was hit in 2.0

    Quote Originally Posted by lanbo View Post
    One of my sites got hit hard:
    Please check if some of the SAPE sites you had links from got deinxed If so just replace them

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    Quote Originally Posted by lover View Post
    Good, actually i bought Sape links from one of the member here and now when i check the backlink report, i found 27 links deindexed out of 100 links.

    I bought these link in mid march.
    I have several hundred, and haven't had a single one deindexed yet. Get better quality links instead of complaining.

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    Default Re: SAPE was hit in 2.0

    SAPE does works. If you website was hit, that was because of some other primary reason.

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    Default Re: SAPE was hit in 2.0

    Good, actually i bought Sape links from one of the member here and now when i check the backlink report, i found 27 links deindexed out of 100 links.

    I bought these link in mid march.
    The problem is a lot of people jumped on the bandwagon selling links from it. Many don't know how to filter the best relevant links from SAPE. I work only with professionals with not a SINGLE WMT penalty for last few years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giuni View Post
    Not really. I'm seeing a lot of sites build almost only on SAPE links and they do great. Some even got #1 after this update ! I never used SAPE and i was thinking that this update will handle this but it seems that they still work
    Ha yeah I think cash202 was being sarcastic as in "oh yeah sape is dead move on".... Anyway your spot on Giuni a lot of sites are doing fine, I've been up all night analyzing this stuff trying to find a pattern in the small percentage of sites that were hit and to be honest there is no real pattern here this looks random as hell, I mean we also have clients that did not use these links which are having drops and rises so this leads me to believe the update is targetting something else or some other link type.

    A number of clients took dips around 2 weeks ago when some sites in SAPE were deindexed, this is nothing new its been happening since we started using the network and its the reason why we run indexing and PR checks on our lists every 3 to 4 weeks. I have probly the biggst collection of SAPE data on the forum at the minute so I have a pretty big view of whats happening and as I said it looks as if its a normal update as I have clients without sape acting the same way as people with sape!

    This is going to take a week to settle too, 1 of our biggest SAPE clients was among the small percentage that dropped last night, myself and him were on skype talking pretty concerned as you can imagine, I just woke up to find his rankings are returning to normal! So be aware this shit ain't settled yet.

    My advice to you guys using SAPE on a large scale, start doing regular PR and indexing checks on your lists! We've done this from day 1, sites get deindexed on the network daily and lose PR daily its been this way since we first started using it.


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    Default Re: SAPE was hit in 2.0

    SAPE is still working. Some of my sites took a minor hit (3-5 positions) but could be due to de-indexing / lack of diversity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lanbo View Post
    One of my sites got hit hard:
    I wouldn't categorize that as "hit hard". Rankings should be regainable in a few weeks.

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    Default Re: SAPE was hit in 2.0

    Right now it's all white noise anyway. Some sites are up, some are down. Consensus after evaluating our tracking portfolio: If you kept your link profile well diversified utilizing rational anchor-, link- and platform-diversity, then you should be fine and you will be fine in the upcoming days. We track several hundred sites and only a small % got hit - mainly because of over-optimization issues or irrational linking.

    Oh yeah, SAPE is definitely dead now! But I heard through the grapevine that Angela & Paul profiles are back again! Fu*k yeah!

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    Default Re: SAPE was hit in 2.0

    SAPE links themselves haven't taken a hit; just poor link profiles.

    Used properly, they're still working well - just like other kinds of valuable links. The crucial bit of course is the implementation.

    I would say though that I think the update so far isn't at "full capacity" - looks like G have left themselves a bit of room to ramp up the algorithm in the next weeks/months (unlike Penguin 1)

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    Quote Originally Posted by t0mmy View Post
    Ha yeah I think cash202 was being sarcastic as in "oh yeah sape is dead move on"....
    SAPE died the same death Xrumer died in 2011 or was it in 2008, I don't remember


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    Default Re: SAPE was hit in 2.0

    Some Sape sites died. There's no questioning that. But the same amount of legitimate websites also died. All it means is Google's new update was targeting randomly. Hopefully a lot of those shitty low quality Sape sites have been weeded out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by verilix View Post
    Some Sape sites died. There's no questioning that. But the same amount of legitimate websites also died. All it means is Google's new update was targeting randomly. Hopefully a lot of those shitty low quality Sape sites have been weeded out.
    They just pushed the same button they did in October 2012. I see nothing revolutionary about this update.


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    Default Re: SAPE was hit in 2.0

    Sape still works for me, however I use more and more another site now.

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    increased prices on Sape links.. 0,8 cent for 1 link with pr. What happened? Somebody have a huge network of sites and increase prices?

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    Quote Originally Posted by verilix View Post
    Sape has hundreds of thousands of websites. It's not possible to take them all down, regardless how hard Google tries. New fresh websites are being added all the time as old websites get deindexed. Sape isn't dying. I've seen plenty of people ranking with just Sape links recently.
    sites are russian, targeted keywords are usually american ones
    how hard it is to make a patern match like "if website who ranks good on us google, has top backlinks from russia...." ?
    cmon, you cant really say its impossible i woould more say "its supprising they didnt crack down sape yet" (i am saying yet, because i dont know if they hit sape..my respond was more like, you cant say this is so hard, especially for those who claim to have mostly sape backlinks)

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    Default Re: SAPE was hit in 2.0

    Wrong. Sape is full of English TLD's actually 85% of the links we have in our backend in sape (over 80k btw) are english TLDs, its not hard to filter out the .ru domains, so I have no idea whatsoever why people using sape or some sape sellers and "other" network sellers are giving out so many .ru domains its not necessary.

    They will not take down sape, if anything they will devalue footer links or something more drastic, sape and its contents make up a huge part of the russian and even foriegn internet, do you honestly think google is going to deindex all those sites? No because that would mean them giving a huge market share of search data and results to one of their competitiors "Yandex" not going to happen!

    Quote Originally Posted by iknowjack View Post
    sites are russian, targeted keywords are usually american ones
    how hard it is to make a patern match like "if website who ranks good on us google, has top backlinks from russia...." ?
    cmon, you cant really say its impossible i woould more say "its supprising they didnt crack down sape yet" (i am saying yet, because i dont know if they hit sape..my respond was more like, you cant say this is so hard, especially for those who claim to have mostly sape backlinks)
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