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    In a latest tweet google's Matt Cutts said,

    "In fact, we took action on several thousand linksellers in a paid-link-that-passes-PageRank network earlier today"


    Google once again fired it's gun on private high pr blogs . Are you a victim...????




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    These are not "private" blog networks. I would classify them as "semi-private" if you can buy into them.

    Any time you join a network you risk getting pounded in the a$$ by the big G.

    Build your own network and you will be fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyuman82 View Post
    These are not "private" blog networks. I would classify them as "semi-private" if you can buy into them.

    Any time you join a network you risk getting pounded in the a$$ by the big G.

    Build your own network and you will be fine.
    To be honest they are barely even semi-private. Most of them give out reports with the networks domain in them... HUGE FOOTPRINT.

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    Any network that having even a small footprint will hit by Big-G. From now on network holders needs to do more to protect their networks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smart SEO View Post
    To be honest they are barely even semi-private. Most of them give out reports with the networks domain in them... HUGE FOOTPRINT.
    I never understood how giving out reports was a footprint. I mean, if google was manually infiltrating these networks, report or no, they can easily send the links to a new domain and then monitor which site links to it. Report just makes it a tiny bit faster for them. Or am I missing something really obvious here? :S

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    Default Re: Google's another shot on private high pr networks?

    He may be talking about networks like Sape.

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    For some reason I don't think it's SAPE, as you would think you'd see hundreds of threads about it already lol
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    Some of my private blog network websites just got deindexed. Unique, high quality content with external links, images, different hosts...

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    Ummm...got a few of mine de-indexed as well...what is odd is that they were on shared hosting not seo hosting, had nothing to do one to each other.

    All others on SEO hosting appear fine. For now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by szymekn View Post
    Some of my private blog network websites just got deindexed. Unique, high quality content with external links, images, different hosts...
    How many sites?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwistedSEO View Post
    I never understood how giving out reports was a footprint. I mean, if google was manually infiltrating these networks, report or no, they can easily send the links to a new domain and then monitor which site links to it. Report just makes it a tiny bit faster for them. Or am I missing something really obvious here? :S
    Well, im not gonna name people but some networks on this forum actually upload the reports onto Google Docs, not only that the heading in the document is "Thanks for buying high pr network links from XXX", you can say what you want but im pretty sure google keeps an eye on these documents.

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    Default Re: Google's another shot on private high pr networks?

    Paranoid much? I'm confident Google don't track down networks like this ;-)

    We can all be sure SAPE is safe though. Since its only like "smaller" networks targetted in this. There is a few more than thousands sites in SAPE.

    Quote Originally Posted by Smart SEO View Post
    Well, im not gonna name people but some networks on this forum actually upload the reports onto Google Docs, not only that the heading in the document is "Thanks for buying high pr network links from XXX", you can say what you want but im pretty sure google keeps an eye on these documents.

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    Default Re: Google's another shot on private high pr networks?

    True private blog networks are safe if they do it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyuman82 View Post
    How many sites?
    7 out from 35.

    I've created a spreadsheet with all the data to find out why that happened.

    It has nothing to do with content in my case. I've had websites with unique content de-indexed, while websites with spun content are doing just great.

    What was the problem then?

    I was abusing site-wide linking to the SAME sites. I simply left too much footprint for google. I knew that I'm leaving a footprint, it was just the best cost-effective method to boost more than one site. Now, it seems like we won't be able to do that.

    All other sites that are still indexed have 1 (rarely 2) external links and they are fine. Atleast for now...

    I removed all the links from these sites and restored original content from the archive.org. Let's see if I can bring these sites back to index...

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    This is bad

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    Default Re: Google's another shot on private high pr networks?

    So far, my own network havent hit yet..

    Also the network that i currently join also is ok..

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    Quote Originally Posted by rasmusk View Post
    Paranoid much? I'm confident Google don't track down networks like this ;-)

    We can all be sure SAPE is safe though. Since its only like "smaller" networks targetted in this. There is a few more than thousands sites in SAPE.
    Maybee i am slightly paranoid but what makes you think that sape is still safe after the major update soon?

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    Seo is getting costlier now

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    Default Re: Google's another shot on private high pr networks?

    I mean SAPE is safe from the targetted actions against networks like in original post. After the big update, sites who consist 100% of SAPE might not be safe.. And maybe they only choose to devalue links. Who knows.

    Quote Originally Posted by Smart SEO View Post
    Maybee i am slightly paranoid but what makes you think that sape is still safe after the major update soon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rasmusk View Post
    I mean SAPE is safe from the targetted actions against networks like in original post. After the big update, sites who consist 100% of SAPE might not be safe.. And maybe they only choose to devalue links. Who knows.
    I beg to differ. Sape is not safe from targeted actions as every single sape seller needs to put a certain code on their website to display links. This code connects to sape's system and voila we have a footprint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thinktank1 View Post
    I beg to differ. Sape is not safe from targeted actions as every single sape seller needs to put a certain code on their website to display links. This code connects to sape's system and voila we have a footprint.
    The code is not viewable in the source code. But there's another footprint which beats the fuq out of every footprint.. Its an open database which is stored on sape's site and it reveals all the sites connected.. Last time I checked I found 10000 odd urls which are either passing or recieving link juice... With this its also possible to check which site use to get links from SAPE. If they have remove the links they are still not safe



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    Quote Originally Posted by kappa84 View Post
    Ummm...got a few of mine de-indexed as well...what is odd is that they were on shared hosting not seo hosting, had nothing to do one to each other.

    All others on SEO hosting appear fine. For now...
    Were all the sites on the same shared hosting?

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    Default Re: Google's another shot on private high pr networks?

    SAPE isn't a blog network though. Most of those sites aren't blogs, they are static websites. They also usually only sell a limited number of links on each website, unlike blog networks who will just keep selling links until they run the sites into the ground. There are also way too many sites on there to really be considered a network.

    Google's frustration just shows how well they can work though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyuman82 View Post
    For some reason I don't think it's SAPE, as you would think you'd see hundreds of threads about it already lol
    So true....and so far, so good here. That said, I'm not basing my seo on sape, but it has given me a consistent and gradual boost on a number of properties. I've been holding back on using sape on client's sites until now...may wait a couple weeks to make sure this isn't a head-fake by google. ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwistedSEO View Post
    I never understood how giving out reports was a footprint. I mean, if google was manually infiltrating these networks, report or no, they can easily send the links to a new domain and then monitor which site links to it. Report just makes it a tiny bit faster for them. Or am I missing something really obvious here? :S
    That's exactly correct. And since Google picks and chooses which content to index, it's real easy for them to find anything and everything that is linking to their dummy sites. I don't think Google would ever publicly admit to doing this, but as networks become more sophisticated that option will be something they rely on more heavily to identify decentralized link networks.

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    Putting links into a semi-private is highly dangerous...If you are doing a short term project, then it really doesn't matter, but if you are building something to last, then this strategy is crazy...

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    There is always so much talk and never any evidence or data. One person in this whole thread actually owns a network and shared that some of his sites were deindexed. I've owned a large network for 2+ years and as long as you run it correctly you don't have to worry about getting deindexed. Google "blog network hosting" and read the article at PBN services.
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    shitty networks get deindexed
    public networks that give reports get deindexed

    i have been apart of a private network for over two years and its still rocking after googles latest targeting.

    the key is to not buy into the next hottest network thats getting whored out. that simple.

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    I just checked out some "private" network links from some popular BST services here on BHW. Roughly 40% of the backlinks are de-indexed. Even the networks that claim no footprint, niche relevant, and unique content. Guess Google wasn't bluffing after all.

    Edit: I think it might be a manually thing because all the links from less popular threads are still indexed. It seems google hit the more popular BST's, which makes perfect sense. It's a great way to try and cause panic and fear for all the newbies. I usually stop buying from a BST the moment it starts to get popular, something I've always done. I don't like to go where the masses go, because that's where Google's looking.
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    Checked my network yesterday and 0 deindexed. Private, hundreds of domains across many SEO hosts.


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