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a few days, I lost my website and $10 because dino_stark from fiverr, Before I buy the gigs him says This is safe from google panda, and penguin, and now my website lost, google says my website as spam, and I contact google group, and they still says my website as spam,

I've spent a lot of money for my website, and now I lost it,

I contact dino_stark and he never responded to my message, I try contact fiverr , fiverr promise will review gigs dino_stark

but Now I can't login in fiverr, I don't now why ? like fiverr was banning my account,

I had a conversation with dino stark, but Now I can't login

I suspect fiverr protects dino stark, I never gave him NEGATIVE REVIEWS but a few hours later is gone

he destroyed my business

I guess fiverr won't do anything as long as he delivers what he promise, and that sounds like the case here... Sorry mate

what particular service did you order from fiverr?

man, you have to learn more about SEO and link building before blasting fiverr gigs to your main site! to be honest, this is not the fiverr guy's fault, its your fault. He delivered what he said, just because he says "yeah yeah its penguin/panda safe" it doesn't mean you can trust him.

sorry for the cold words, but its the truth.. you destroyed your own business

Originally Posted by graphire

what particular service did you order from fiverr?

I buy This is gigs from dino stark " eminent backlink pyramid " and this is what makes my website slapped by google

Very few gigs get complete removal of negative feedback and you can usually tell which ones they are. If my life depended on it I couldn't convince 1000/1000 people that the sky was blue, so if you see someone with 10k positive feedback and 0 negative reviews you can safely assume they are being removed.

DO NOT use fiverr for you MONEY SITE.You can use it for tier 2 link.

Originally Posted by GiorgioB

man, you have to learn more about SEO and link building before blasting fiverr gigs to your main site! to be honest, this is not the fiverr guy's fault, its your fault. He delivered what he said, just because he says "yeah yeah its penguin/panda safe" it doesn't mean you can trust him.

sorry for the cold words, but its the truth.. you destroyed your own business

yes i know it man, before I'm order I'm contact with him, and he guarantees it, but now I lost my bussiness, and money, and he is don't care, he just want my money , he doesn't care about customers ,

I give him negative reviews, but 2 hours later is gone, what happened ?? he cheated

as stated by ron.ray, fiverr won't do anything as long as he delivers what he promise, in his gig actually. I think fiverr team doesn't want to interfere any agreement between you and him as long as both of you respect the fiverr TOS

Originally Posted by TomCruise

yes i know it man, before I'm order I'm contact with him, and he guarantees it, but now I lost my bussiness, and money, and he is don't care, he just want my money , he doesn't care about customers ,

I give him negative reviews, but 2 hours later is gone, what happened ?? he cheated

Dear TomCruise,

from your writing style I presume you are a somewhat younger fellow. And that's good because you still have decent time to learn the game.

For the case here: congratulate dino_stark to be successful and learn your lesson: he banks, you don't; you are responsible, he isn't.

Now get over it, start a new project and succeed after all

All the best

Hmmm... op, you look like a little liar...
You say: "him says This is safe from google panda, and penguin".
Well, I checked out of curiosity his gig and guess what: there is never specified "panda" or "penguin". Use search feature in your browser.

You say that you spend "lot of money" with your website. I suppose $10 is an example of "lot of money".
Your expectations are very high for $10: you want google penguin safe, google panda safe... What else do you want, a new car?

LISTEN GUYS.

I've been saying this for months. Never never never trust a site that's already making you some serious skrilla (that's $$ money for those of you not familiar with American slang) with someone who is only getting paid $4 DOLLARS based upon supposedly valid reviews on fiverr.

Why would you jeopardize your hard work, hundreds of hours writing quality articles, coding, tweaking, and SEO and entrust all of that to someone making four dollars knowing full well that in the age of Negative SEO they could just as easily bomb your site. If they screw up your site they lose $4 bucks, do you think they give two craps? However, you can potentially lose EVERYTHING.

Before someone says it, I know there are quality fiverr sellers that do a killer job. The point is you have to look at it from a risk/reward perspective. You get what you pay for ALWAYS. Sorry OP, hope it's a lesson well learned.

Originally Posted by yoyo33

Hmmm... op, you look like a little liar...
You say: "him says This is safe from google panda, and penguin".
Well, I checked out of curiosity his gig and guess what: there is never specified "panda" or "penguin". Use search feature in your browser.

You say that you spend "lot of money" with your website. I suppose $10 is an example of "lot of money".
Your expectations are very high for $10: you want google penguin safe, google panda safe... What else do you want, a new car?

buddy, he said he talked with the seller, not that the seller wrote on the gig that it is panda safe.

also, he said he spent a lot of money on the site, maybe he paid $100 or $500 in coding, or on site SEO, or web design.. no need to call people liars before you know the full story.

What do you expect for $5?

Gee Wizz Guy's, Here is the gig in question : http://fiverr.com/dino_stark/build-e...gh-pr-profiles

There is more than 350 orders in the queue and more than 15 000 delivered without a single bad review ? That rings alarm bells to me like crazy.

Luckily I know that 5000 links with xrumer kills a site like a MotherF*ckr happens to me in early years. so take this as a learning curve and move on.

Nobody likes school fees but it is a must to live and survive.

Good luck.

Hi TomCruise,
I do gigs on fiverr and as stated by other as long as he has fulfilled he's gig fiver will not interfere with the situation between you and the seller.They Prefer for you to solve the situation directly with the seller.I did check he's gig and it does not state that it is "safe from google panda, and penguin"...You should always contact the seller to clarify things before purchasing a gig.

Fiver has no relation with any seller so fiver doesnt protect anybody

Oh, no, TomCruise is a Black Hatter ? No more money in Hollywood ?

BTW, as some guys mentioned, Never send any Unknown Services to your money site, this is not Hollywood my friend, this is Black Hat World

Go to Google, search and read a little about google/webmaster and try to unlink (tell them your competitors are looking to fire you from Online Marketing, as those from Hollywood did with you )

Good Luck !

I just got an Idea, maybe I should send some of this to some of my competition ? What do you think ? Im just scared it backfire's and makes their sites so strong I will never be able to catch them then. lol

I'm pretty sure Fiverr will never remove negative comment from a buyer if the buyer does not agree to the removal IF the comment is related to the gig itself and not something totally irrelevant.
For example if his gig was about backlinks and you mentioned something like why the sky is blue, then your comment will probably get deleted.

Also, comments will only get deleted if he is a really established seller like this person with the rank of "Top Rated Seller".
They usually have very high chance of getting a negative comment deleted if they give a valid reason to.

Ignore it and move on IMHO.

Originally Posted by TomCruise

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a few days, I lost my website and $10 because dino_stark from fiverr, Before I buy the gigs him says This is safe from google panda, and penguin, and now my website lost, google says my website as spam, and I contact google group, and they still says my website as spam,

I've spent a lot of money for my website, and now I lost it,

I contact dino_stark and he never responded to my message, I try contact fiverr , fiverr promise will review gigs dino_stark

but Now I can't login in fiverr, I don't now why ? like fiverr was banning my account,

I had a conversation with dino stark, but Now I can't login

I suspect fiverr protects dino stark, I never gave him NEGATIVE REVIEWS but a few hours later is gone

he destroyed my business

You pays your money . . . and makes your choice.

You do know this is a BLACK HAT forum ???????

Hope Dino Stark Gives The Money Back For you or Report Him so He won't be able to Sell again share the Link here We'll report

This is a true story.

I used to work for an administrative law firm. We educated business on various laws, for instance, what salesmen are allowed to tell prospective buyers in the auto industry.

One guy came in to buy an RV. It was a foreigner guy, I won't reveal ethnicity but there was a slight language/understanding barrier. This guy asked something like "Does this car have auto pilot?" The salesman said something like "Yes, it has cruise control." The guy said something like "So the car will drive itself?" The salesman said something like "Yes."

Shortly after leaving the parking lot, the vehicle got into a huge accident. The guy turned on the cruise control and, while driving, got up to go to the fridge happily leaving the vehicle to drive itself. Our car dealership got sued because the salesman said "yes" to the question "will it drive itself". Of course the case was thrown out.

That story came to mind when the OP mentioned his issues with the fiverr gig. Honestly, its like February 2013 now, its been more than a year now that low quality links can harm a website in some circumstances ... do a minimum amount of due diligence before engaging in SEO.

Edit: the reason I s aythis is because the OP mentioned Panda and the OP mentioned Penguin. If you know the names, you know what they do. The OP knew some links were dangerous -- because the OP asked if the links were "safe" for penguin/panda. That implies the OP knew some links were not safe. Where's the common sense there ... this is $4 you're paying someone to link to your site.

And of course the gig has positive feedback, why shouldn't it? Everyone else is doing the proper thing and asking for their tier-1 to get backlinks instead of their money site. Because it's been a year now since that's the way you do it.

I blast my site 3 times already with various keywords and still 1 links. not yet banned for 2 months already

EDIT : I mean with those dino_stark gigs

You should focus on quality links.

After all G updates, you can't blast your money site with tons of spammy backlinks and expect to get results...

You can rank easily with few web 2.0's with unique content.

Originally Posted by TomCruise

Before I buy the gigs him says This is safe from google panda, and penguin

Every time I see someone on this forum ask if a service is safe from [animal] update I wonder if their brain cell count is < 5.

Sorry mate, but wake the hell up.

dont buy this kind of gigs in fiverr, u cant check what will be done to your websites until the seller deliver it, so be carefull

i just buy on fiverr thinks i can check before i use, or else its a risk i will not taken at all

Unlucky man I feel your pain. I would have said tier 2 at best for a fiverr gig, even tier 1 could be risky business and certainly not your site itself.

If you dont know what you are doing, stop buying things.

I believe a lot of people around the IM Community like to stress on the act of taking action, which is fine, but only if you FIRST know what you're doing. This is an education-based business, and if you don't educate yourself first on how X-SEO Service can affect you, both positively and negatively, then don't take action until you first know what the heck you're getting into. Make sense? Sorry for the tough love, but that's just what it is. As Stufferizer, twilightofidols, and a few others previously stated, this is a tough lesson learned. Keep your head up, and begin a new project.

Right now, you're at a pivotal point in your IM Career, where many people would simply give up. Is that the path you want to take? We cannot answer that for you. Do what you feel you need to do, but trying to reverse a decision Google makes, is a near-impossibility for even the most advanced social-engineers, so my advice to you would be to forget about the old project, start something new, and EDUCATE YOURSELF, before engaging in any blackhat ANYTHING. Fair enough? Actually, I wouldn't even start doing anything whitehat. Spend some time educating yourself. You need it. We all need it. There's no getting around it, unless you have deep pockets.

Im pretty sure that Fiverr protects the sellers who generate much money for them. Take a look at Crorkservice, Dinostark, Seosupremacy, they dont have negative feedback. That's a big joke. I have average 20 orders aday, but I get at least 1 negative feedback 1 month (I sell backlinks like them). I tried my best to beg the buyers to remove their feedbacks and save my life. Of course, not everyone agree to do that.

Lets look at it through Google's eyes for a second.

"Hmmmn" it says. "I have a (brand new?) site here, and all of a sudden it has 20 million back links?!?! Either I missed this in the news, or this is suspicious".

What would you think?

I wish more sellers would offer services such as 100 high quality bookmarks, instead of 5000 insta-crappy one's.

Overall you want a nice smooth graph showing the increase in the number of backlinks your sites have, not sudden spikes, most especially at the start.

Keep at it bro.

Good luck

Well thats your mistake that you have made.Te guy on fiverr delivered what he had promised. Google, Fiverr, or anyone else is going to be able to help you now. Best thing to do is coubt it a loss and build another web site.

The important lesson to take away is that Fiverr has some good and some bad. Don't use it on anything you really care about unless you've tested it. Also the micromanagement involved can be quite painful.

When you are buying on fiverr you need to know what you are buying and what effects that will leave on the SERPS. For example i sell large quantities of links and there are buyers who use them like i intended - for indexing and lower tiers with great success. On the other hand there are buyers who want me to build all the links to their money site. I can't spend time teaching every 2nd buyer the basics of their link building. That is not my job - it is their homework. So please learn the seo basics first and then decide in what way fiverr can help your link building strategy.

Originally Posted by Tosmekop

I believe a lot of people around the IM Community like to stress on the act of taking action, which is fine, but only if you FIRST know what you're doing. This is an education-based business, and if you don't educate yourself first on how X-SEO Service can affect you, both positively and negatively, then don't take action until you first know what the heck you're getting into. Make sense? Sorry for the tough love, but that's just what it is. As Stufferizer, twilightofidols, and a few others previously stated, this is a tough lesson learned. Keep your head up, and begin a new project.

Right now, you're at a pivotal point in your IM Career, where many people would simply give up. Is that the path you want to take? We cannot answer that for you. Do what you feel you need to do, but trying to reverse a decision Google makes, is a near-impossibility for even the most advanced social-engineers, so my advice to you would be to forget about the old project, start something new, and EDUCATE YOURSELF, before engaging in any blackhat ANYTHING. Fair enough? Actually, I wouldn't even start doing anything whitehat. Spend some time educating yourself. You need it. We all need it. There's no getting around it, unless you have deep pockets.

Agreed. It's a fine line between proper research and education and actually taking action. There are some things that you don't need to take action on to discover i.e. you don't need to touch a stove to figure out that fire is hot and will burn you badly. However, many crucial business skills can only be gained through experience by taking calculated risks, this one arguably was not a risk worth taking.

Happens man you will learn as you experiment
i have lost some of my sites too ..
take it as a good learning curve , at least now you know which GIG not to buy ..

NEVER use fiverr gigs on your MAIN MONEY SITE...UNLESS you know the gig is good.

ALWAYS test out fiverr gigs on test domains to see if they actually work and then if the gig is good apply it to your money site carefully.

Hundreds and thousands of links for five bucks should be an indicator that they are not worth a shit. Don't get me wrong, some Fiverr sellers do good work. But when such work involves building links, they are mostly useful for outer tiers. You get what you pay for in this biz...

If your going to insist on using fiverr gigs for your seo, then why not take the time to do a little research on the person offering the gig first, For example alot of the guys who offer services on fiverr are also on this forum as well, and are advertising same said services. There are guys like SEO_Alchemy that offer fiverr services with a ton of reviews and rep backing him. Do your homework next time. Im finding it hard to feel sorry for you when alot of us are spending thousands per month in seo alone not to mention hosting etc, and your complaining that a $5.00 gig didnt rank you number one for your keyword. If your not going to take the time to research what works and what don't then it seems that you basically got what you deserved. Now build another site, learn from your mistake, and move on. Im sure everyone here has learned lessons like this in the past, the secret is to get smarter from them , and not come on a board and whine about a guy who performed the gig and gave you what you ordered.

To put this in a bit of perspective for you, $5.00 wouldn't get most seo providers to even look at your site let alone perform a service for it. I have some clients paying me $3,000.00 plus monthly for seo on ONE site, so as you can see $5.00 is a pretty cheap lesson if you ask me. Fiverr is for 2nd and 3tier links. YOU NEVER EVER use a fiverr gig for a straight shot at your money site.

A service with 15341 positive reviews? It must be terrible!

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he got 1 negative reviews from me, but the view is now gone, I never agreed to remove the negative reviews, because he has made my site google slapped, I've lost a lot of money for my website and he make lost ,

now I try to learn from this experience, new project and more careful,

What do you expect for $5?