Is this site targetting a single product or a general niche? Congrats either way, just curious

Good stuff, seems like the hard work paid off.

I just have to say: excellent work! Congratulations Experteon!

You're a lucky man.
This is very motivating thread for me. Thanks!

Originally Posted by Lubancz

You're a lucky man.
This is very motivating thread for me. Thanks!

There is no luck here mate. It's all about how hard and smart you work.

Tell me your keyword. I will become your competitor so you don't feel lonely You can have #1 and I'll settle for #2, #3, #4, #5

Congratz! Thats really awesome!

How do you go with anchor text? You use exact anchor for links to your homepage or varitions containing you desired keyword?

No way to miss out the opportunity to tell the OP "CONGRATZ" !

I have been trying to rank for keyword w/ 90K searches really really competitive one and it's freaking hard. It's a single keyword in a huge market and I how hard it is. I made the mistake to stop building links which wasn't good at all.

I rank on the second page for now. I have multiple keywords that I want to rank for, like over 500 words or so. So yeah, i know how hard it is but the fact that you made 5 figure in 1 day is awesome! I Wish you to make much more than that man!

I'm really really glad you did it because the whole SEO game is pretty hard but once you see results out of it .... put a fat smile on your face!

Congrats once again!

Really awesome dude. Keep the good work

Nice one!

Congrats!

JR

No matter what happens now, you're a winner!

Your now in the 2% of people... keep it going man, and don't worry about your financial woes, we all get them!

Nice work Expertpeon, I have been following a few of your threads and have tried to absorb as much as I can.
A couple of questions for you. (or for anybody else with the knowledge).

-It seems that a good idea at the moment is to 'future proof' your web 2.0 pyramids and paid for blog links, by setting up your own private network of websites. I have read that you started buying 5-7 a day, and built pyramids to them. My question is, Do you build specific private networks for EACH niche you are in. That is, all your networked sites have the same niche content on them, or do you mix up the content as required by different campaigns.

-Secondly, I have seen you have found awesome success with promoting ecommerce entities. I have read that ROI is much higher, (of course because of the intrinsic 'buyers' that form ecommerce) Are your products digital? If not, do you have to hold stock, or drop-ship? I would like to go this angle, but the prospect of dropshipping sounds like it may turn out to be a pain the but.
Anyways, love this forum! Thanks Again!

Originally Posted by madoctopus

Tell me your keyword. I will become your competitor so you don't feel lonely You can have #1 and I'll settle for #2, #3, #4, #5

Lots of keywords out there like this one, and a lot of them are easier than this haha.

Tons of $6MM/yr+ terms that you don't need to make your site PR6 to compete in

Experpeon, could you comment on the post above yours? Would love to know some oof those answers to. Cheers

Love to hear when someone strikes gold! Keep up the good work. I am chasing some huge keywords myself, and i must confess the work and expense is huge.

You might want to create a small 50 to 100 high Pr BLOG NETWORK to protect that keyword.

Create familiar sites with varieties of the keyword as a back up plan or just have another site go after the keyword.

Well, Congrats and much success to your efforts!

I think to secure your investment you should take the money from SEO and invest in some good ol real estate

someone PM me op's website and ill paypal u $30. (dont try to fake it)

just curious.

congratulations for that

Originally Posted by Omoplata

someone PM me op's website and ill paypal u $30. (dont try to fake it)

just curious.

Are you serious? You're an idiot.

OP: can you give me an idea of your monthly spend for backlinking services (I'm assuming based on your posts in this thread that you are using various services for links)

Congratulation OP, I hope you make your millions from this site. Just don't forget us normal folk at BHW when you do......

Originally Posted by teeniegenie

OP: can you give me an idea of your monthly spend for backlinking services (I'm assuming based on your posts in this thread that you are using various services for links)

I think Expert is doing most all of the linking himself with massive automation, Zenno, Xrumer etc.

He's a bit hush, hush with his EXACT methods and for good reason. Though I don't think most have his work ethic so wouldn't be able to compete anyways...

Originally Posted by oneder

I think Expert is doing most all of the linking himself with massive automation, Zenno, Xrumer etc.

He's a bit hush, hush with his EXACT methods and for good reason. Though I don't think most have his work ethic so wouldn't be able to compete anyways...

I think that's the key that 99% of most people here don't think about. I bet you he could post step by step what he does, and only a handful of people would actually follow it through.

Originally Posted by jon_xx_x

I think that's the key that 99% of most people here don't think about. I bet you he could post step by step what he does, and only a handful of people would actually follow it through.

To be quite fair,
This site held its position for about 3 weeks, solidly making over 5 figures every single day. I made a very modest amt of links during this time (compared to what I normally do)
I woke up, and the keyword is off the map, perhaps due in no small part to BMR seeming to be a death sentence for sites in the last week. Hoping to see it bounce back, doing a lot of diverse link building from high PR blogs, to high PR d0follow comments to at least 100k tier 1 web 2.0s to the site over the next week, along with a host of other efforts...

Effectively, if it doesn't bounce back... 400 paid high PR blogposts, just killed a keyword a site ranked solidly at #15 for 4 months on, with over 150k indexed web 2.0s pointing to it (and a ton more of other links)...
Some keywords I haven't marketed for at least 5 months also dropped as well...

Used HighPRsociety (small amount) BMR and Link Authority... gave the site a little "umph" and now it's gone? Will take some effort to get it to rerank again, and what a costly mistake if it doesn't bounce back

I didn't even know that such a small # of links to a PR5 site, with such a huge basis of backlinks could do anything negative.
I've sent raw scrapebox lists to sites many times, and even they never dropped rank... let alone a PR5 authority site with 200k tier 1 links and another 100k BMs/Forums/Directories pointing to it (not to mention 1500-2000 manual high PR d0follow blog comments)

There's absolutely no info in webmaster tools....
Use these paid networks at your own risk... even Link Authority, which a few days ago seemed like the most amazing network, may have thrown such an authority site into a spiral.

Will be working hard to get shit moving on this site again, but obviously I need to go back to my other sites which are all big money makers as well.

Update: Site is page #3 on the keyword now (from not in top 200)
Incredible... these networks man.

I have been "Following" alot of the new "Case Study" threads that pop up for all of these blog networks. Almost each one is blatant advertising and people are falling head over heals watching how the keyword ranks so quickly using the service. Then there are a couple that show drops in rankings and then you have people who are pushing the blog networks come in and say thinks like add some web 2.0s to the mix.

Then you read threads about how BMR has stopped accepting new members, and other networks are being de-indexed at amazing rates.

I think given how much I have read and the changes that are happening that blog networks are not worth the risk. Google is becoming smarter and smarter all the time. Diversification is key.

Originally Posted by PHustler

I have been "Following" alot of the new "Case Study" threads that pop up for all of these blog networks. Almost each one is blatant advertising and people are falling head over heals watching how the keyword ranks so quickly using the service. Then there are a couple that show drops in rankings and then you have people who are pushing the blog networks come in and say thinks like add some web 2.0s to the mix.

Then you read threads about how BMR has stopped accepting new members, and other networks are being de-indexed at amazing rates.

I think given how much I have read and the changes that are happening that blog networks are not worth the risk. Google is becoming smarter and smarter all the time. Diversification is key.

The fact is these networks are for people who are lazy (including myself). It isn't hard to find these thin, worthless networks and punish its users. The days of smashing ALN/BMR/whatever with articles, regardless of content quality, is simply over. Same with homepage backlink services. G has made it very clear that the days of on-tap SEO rankings is becoming a thing of the past (or at least a mainstream public/semi-private services are).

Im not saying its not possible to use these services effectively, but in its current form the risk clearly outweighs the benefits.

We need to figure out a new and smarter way to do SEO. Start thinking outside the box.

Originally Posted by Expertpeon

Only about 15 bookmarking sites are worth it, I only post on d0follow ones that google actually indexes (reddit, etc... there's only 15)

What are the other 14?

Originally Posted by pixelgrinder

The fact is these networks are for people who are lazy (including myself). It isn't hard to find these thin, worthless networks and punish its users. The days of smashing ALN/BMR/whatever with articles, regardless of content quality, is simply over. Same with homepage backlink services. G has made it very clear that the days of on-tap SEO rankings is becoming a thing of the past (or at least a mainstream public/semi-private services are).

Im not saying its not possible to use these services effectively, but in its current form the risk clearly outweighs the benefits.

We need to figure out a new and smarter way to do SEO. Start thinking outside the box.

Unfortunately if a person is lazy in this business they will never succeed. There are way too many people reading case studies about how to rank #1 and then thinking they will get rich if they use them. It plays right to the lazy bone of the people reading.

There maybe a way to use them correctly but even the OP had about 400 of them linking to his authority site and even he got hit hard (if it was because of the networks). This was a site with 100k's of links at it.

If people read what the true experts here talk about and read between the lines as to what they are doing to rank and them implement it I think we would here more success stories than what we see now.

Even the post above this one asking which are the best BM sites. If he would do a little research he could find them. Laziness is everywhere.

Wow great thread OP, very inspiring.

I hope you can get back on page #1

Originally Posted by Expertpeon

To be quite fair,
This site held its position for about 3 weeks, solidly making over 5 figures every single day. I made a very modest amt of links during this time (compared to what I normally do)
I woke up, and the keyword is off the map, perhaps due in no small part to BMR seeming to be a death sentence for sites in the last week. Hoping to see it bounce back, doing a lot of diverse link building from high PR blogs, to high PR d0follow comments to at least 100k tier 1 web 2.0s to the site over the next week, along with a host of other efforts...

Effectively, if it doesn't bounce back... 400 paid high PR blogposts, just killed a keyword a site ranked solidly at #15 for 4 months on, with over 150k indexed web 2.0s pointing to it (and a ton more of other links)...
Some keywords I haven't marketed for at least 5 months also dropped as well...

Used HighPRsociety (small amount) BMR and Link Authority... gave the site a little "umph" and now it's gone? Will take some effort to get it to rerank again, and what a costly mistake if it doesn't bounce back

I didn't even know that such a small # of links to a PR5 site, with such a huge basis of backlinks could do anything negative.
I've sent raw scrapebox lists to sites many times, and even they never dropped rank... let alone a PR5 authority site with 200k tier 1 links and another 100k BMs/Forums/Directories pointing to it (not to mention 1500-2000 manual high PR d0follow blog comments)

There's absolutely no info in webmaster tools....
Use these paid networks at your own risk... even Link Authority, which a few days ago seemed like the most amazing network, may have thrown such an authority site into a spiral.

Will be working hard to get shit moving on this site again, but obviously I need to go back to my other sites which are all big money makers as well.

Update: Site is page #3 on the keyword now (from not in top 200)
Incredible... these networks man.

Man I feel for you !

I was just reading this thread for the first time and about to start typing a post along the lines of "enjoy the ride while you can because nothing ever lasts in SEM" when I read your last post that you've lost your 1st page ranking.

A lesson to everyone is when you hit paydirt then take the money while you're getting it. Enjoy riding the wave but don't over leverage yourself on the basis of newfound page 1 listings on Google.

This business we're in is so hard to scale up. One moment you think you've found a winning formula and the next minute your site drops like a brick.

I don't think along the lines of scaling my portfolio up. I just try to pick a few winners (sometimes I think it's more by luck than by design).

This game is like spinning plates-when one slows down you have to run to the end of the line and spin the first one all over again.

Expert, I read your contributions to Cash's thread on Web 2.0 tiers with great interest. I guess you're using Zennoposter or some similar form of software to create those amount of web 2.0's.

Currently, I'm scared shi*less about sending any links direct to my money site

good for you mate. You won't tell us though how you monetize the page?

what are these 15 social bookmarking sites?

good luck

All I wish you is to keep that position, great work and results

Congrats on your good work. F*#$ the haters!

If a bunch of sites in a network get deindexed, you can bet that your site is going to tank for a bit. Just stick to using your web 2.0s, they're much safer than BMR and other networks that google is going after. But hey, at least you made a ton of money while u had the ranking lol.

Mind sharing how u built 25k web 2.0's I want to start building them on a large scale also

People are saying that private blog networks are unnatural and that they can get deindexed. Ofcourse true point though the networks keep expanding with new sites all the time and remove the deindexed ones out of the network to maintain the strength. I find it pretty disturbing that a site drops in the rankings after use of these networks. I haven't experienced it myself but since I'm a huge fan of these networks so it would suck pretty hard.

The alternative are web2.0's but I have a few big doubts about it. You say you have made 150.000 web2.0's for this site though not sure if these are all tier1, anyway, I also read that you said that you use 100 different web2.0's. Then at other sites I read that many backlinks from the same IP adress count less and less the more you have from them. And in this case you have 150.000/100 = 1500 backlinks (or 150 backlinks in case of 15k tier1) from each of the 100 ip's. So how can this work, you have any logical explanation for this?

The reason I am such a fan of private blog networks is the wide ip diversity, especially when you use 5 different networks like I'm doing now.

nik-0 how much money are you making daily from these networks? Post a screeny

Originally Posted by oscarkool

nik-0 how much money are you making daily from these networks? Post a screeny

??? I only ranked 2 tough keywords with a combined 120k searches, it seems to change everyday in Google Adword tools and I make around 200 euro / month with Adsense on that website. Not really something to brag about so no need to post screeny. Yeah and I ranked 10 or so easy keywords for other sites that hardly make me any money.

Congrats Hope you stay there

Web 2.0s are amazing and can rank any KW in sufficient amounts and enough tier 3 backlinks. As to blog networks of course they can get de-indexed. So can web 2.0s. Google can deindex all blog networks in a snap of a finger if they decide to. I can right now get a piece of paper and write the exact factors to determine if a site is a part of a blog network or not and I'll be exactly spot on. Google makes about 100 million per day, I'd say they are a bit smarter than me.

G00gle knows which sites are blog networks and the only reason they don't deindex them is because they haven't decided to. Same with web 2.0s. Ironically, if google decides to make all links created "artificially for SEO" not pass any juice (which they can do in a second) and make only natural links valuable, the quality of the pages that rank will decrease, because people who spend a lot of money on back linking also throw a lot of money to ensure their content is valuable.

Regardless of that, most people in SEO still think that google is against them and constantly trying to find methods to devalue links that were created solely of the purpose of SEO. They are not - they can already deindex all artificially created links in a snap of a finger if they decide to.

OP, how much money did you spend for backlinking?

The odds are you got hit by a manual review, to be honest, the majority of High PR blog networks (the public ones...) are very well known now to Google, and they can pretty much know for sure that anyone with links from there is 'artificially manipulating' their rankings...

congrats - keep pushing

Originally Posted by alexa_s

Regardless of that, most people in SEO still think that google is against them and constantly trying to find methods to devalue links that were created solely of the purpose of SEO. They are not - they can already deindex all artificially created links in a snap of a finger if they decide to.

OP, how much money did you spend for backlinking?

Something fishy is going on with blog networks. I doubt google would harm "all SEO efforts' because it would severely harm the quality of the results if they did so. All they would have is articles left in some very expensive e-commerce niches, not exactly customer friendly.

However, google has clearly gone after these blog networks and none of the sites I made links on on these networks were deindexed. All of the links were just recently made, so.