I just got done reading google sniper, and I was wondering if someone who has already read the book could weigh in. See from what I've seen during my past 2 hours of keyword research is that it's nearly impossible to find a search that meets the criteria set in Google sniper. Is this from alot of people using the technique, or should I just search hardeR??

Yes the criteria set by GS is hard to get nowdays. Maybe too many snipers already out there. Try and experiment with higher criterias and see what happens

Originally Posted by jargle

I just got done reading google sniper, and I was wondering if someone who has already read the book could weigh in. See from what I've seen during my past 2 hours of keyword research is that it's nearly impossible to find a search that meets the criteria set in Google sniper. Is this from alot of people using the technique, or should I just search hardeR??

It's not outdated. The method still works great.

I have the whole GS course, but I have never really followed his keyword criteria as far as competition numbers go. if you look hard enough, there are keywords that fit his criteria, but I stick to my own.

The beauty behind the GS method is learning how to structure a site in way that really Google loves.

Just like with any method, it's best to test, track, and then add your own spin.

true true I wanted to first make sure some people were getting results modifying the original method outlined.. this has been reassuring =D

Try to look for higher keyword criterias.

Originally Posted by Yukinari84

I have the whole GS course, but I have never really followed his keyword criteria as far as competition numbers go. if you look hard enough, there are keywords that fit his criteria, but I stick to my own.

Do you have the WSO or the Clickbank version? I only have the WSO and was wondering if it's any different. Thanks in advance!

THIS STILL WORKS.

I use it about 6 months ago, and it was working good. 1st page good results like i never thought possible.... SO easy.

alright well do you guys consider an SENUKE rating of easy to be sniperable? I feel like I misread the book or something because I'm having a hell of a time finding any good searches which match the criteria

The problem with all these types of sniper strategies is you never really know the true value of the keyword market you are going into. Sure you can say that Google has X number of adword clicks per day for that keyword at x CPC and multiply that to get a potential value of the advertising monies spent, but that doesn't really give you a clear market value to make a decision on. Sure, if a lot of people are spending a lot on adword advertising and there is low organic competition then it tells you that there must be some potential there. But its all a bit too hit or miss to me. GS is not real business to me, its more of a speculative adventure into the possibility of making some unspecified money. In fact, that about sums adsense up.
Whilst it appears a good sniper tactic, it is only sniper in terms of indentifying potential markets. It is not sniper in terms of converting to profit.

I just gave it a quick glance and it doesn't really talk much about the right keywords... you shouldn't really be looking at number of results and intitle stuff but the strength of the first 10 sites. unless it's some specific product keyword and you've got a bunch of amazons and kaboodles in there, you should probably just build some minisite on a strong web2.0 in that case

You guys shouldnt follow his guide to a T, especially in regards to competition. The sniper method has been around for ages, but in the past it was more used to hit on large competition keywords. The idea wasn't exactly to set it and forget it, but rather was a way to take on established websites without taking the time to build your own authority site.

If you want to take on higher competition, you will have to add more pages of content, so instead of 3-5, say 10-15, and pump in a few backlinks over time. A different idea than the GS outlook, but I think a little work is inevitable. Dont shy away from work, embrace it and hit the KW's that others overlook due to competition.

The google sniper technique is not outdated and will never be... Becuase everyone including ur competitions grandmother is ranking on google or making money from a handfull of keywords....

These sights may have campaign on thousands or hundred of keywords but after a while they drill down to but a few: this explains why there is software to steal ur competitions keywords.

They have already done the hardwork!

Back to the sniper theory
Google snipers idea is to drill down to a set number of keywords. i beliv btw 2 to 3k.

Now within this region there's little or no traffic especially these days when every1 owns xrumer or seo-sumtin. We all want to go for the higher searches.

GS... assumes that even if you find a 2-3k keyword you must determine if that keyword is bankable. Is there a market that is will to buy or click in the name of luv, so to say.

To succeed in life you must learn why something works... then you can break it and put it back together again. GS is real and it works.

If it has failed for you remember what the author said.."there are times which you will find nothing and there are times you will find such sites or opportunities in ten mins." this might not be exactly what he said but the sum and the substance are the same.

MY ADVICE
1-Find another seed keyword. And follow the criteria
which is 2-3k,bankable and logical to you.
2- Use the google tool... he said you dont need any fancy tool.Dont!
When you get your first keywords, hit the generate more keywords button.. until you find something you like.

After that build a site... vidoes included... think interactive ... monetise .... promote....

Soon i will drop my method to index in google in less than 24...
Where to get free subdomain... for wordpress and where to get a descent domain name for nothing.....

Originally Posted by rudyvise

The problem with all these types of sniper strategies is you never really know the true value of the keyword market you are going into. Sure you can say that Google has X number of adword clicks per day for that keyword at x CPC and multiply that to get a potential value of the advertising monies spent, but that doesn't really give you a clear market value to make a decision on. Sure, if a lot of people are spending a lot on adword advertising and there is low organic competition then it tells you that there must be some potential there. But its all a bit too hit or miss to me. GS is not real business to me, its more of a speculative adventure into the possibility of making some unspecified money. In fact, that about sums adsense up.
Whilst it appears a good sniper tactic, it is only sniper in terms of indentifying potential markets. It is not sniper in terms of converting to profit.

1. Nothing in this business is every 100% certain.

2. Adwords competition is definitely a good way to gauge whether a keyword is worth going after or not. You can never be 100% sure a keyword is gonna make money which is why testing and tracking are a must iff you want to make serious money.

3. You'd be surprised how many people do buy even from weird keywords.

Ok my other question is I've been seeing tons of bum marketers.. So it really makes me wonder what are the big perks of writing a Ezine rather then making a fresh page? Which one is better for using the google sniper technique & what are the pros and cons of each??

I thought about this Yukinari.

Yes, i agree that nothing is 100% certain, but i have never accepted taking risks that were not calculated. It does take time to get to a point where you can at least know to what degree the risk is a total flyer.

I would sooner do my best analysis upfront versus investing to learn that it was a wasted investment.

Of course to do the best analysis takes a long to learn all the angles.

Originally Posted by Yukinari84

1. Nothing in this business is every 100% certain.

2. Adwords competition is definitely a good way to gauge whether a keyword is worth going after or not. You can never be 100% sure a keyword is gonna make money which is why testing and tracking are a must iff you want to make serious money.

3. You'd be surprised how many people do buy even from weird keywords.

Originally Posted by rudyvise

I thought about this Yukinari.

Yes, i agree that nothing is 100% certain, but i have never accepted taking risks that were not calculated. It does take time to get to a point where you can at least know to what degree the risk is a total flyer.

I would sooner do my best analysis upfront versus investing to learn that it was a wasted investment.

Of course to do the best analysis takes a long to learn all the angles.

When you're dealing with SEO, there's really no risk since it can be done for 100% free. If everything fails, all you lose is a few hours of your time which is nothing in comparison to how much you will gain.

GS works well and always will work well. Finding the right keywords is just a matter of taking a little bit of time and applying some original thought. Remember almost 40% of searches are phrases that have never been searched for before (according to the google blog). So there is always new keywords to be mined, like there are new products

The sniper method for getting high ranking micro sites is still good.

However the new FTC rulings make this method DANGEROUS.

Unfortunately because you are focusing on keywords that have a trickle of traffic most of the time, you really need to convince the traffic to buy.

Sniper uses the "flog" system of selling the product. My advice - steer clear of the "I did this and this and then I finally found this" approach.

I think George can see the writing on the wall and that's why he's marketing Wordpress Mage (which in my opinion is a better product anyway).

Originally Posted by lotus

However the new FTC rulings make this method DANGEROUS.

I admit I haven't followed the news developments on this that much, so this might be a stupid question but: What's the danger, exactly? Does Google frown upon on these sites now (slaps/sandboxing, or even adsense ban?) or what?

Originally Posted by lotus

The sniper method for getting high ranking micro sites is still good.

However the new FTC rulings make this method DANGEROUS.

Unfortunately because you are focusing on keywords that have a trickle of traffic most of the time, you really need to convince the traffic to buy.

Sniper uses the "flog" system of selling the product. My advice - steer clear of the "I did this and this and then I finally found this" approach.

I think George can see the writing on the wall and that's why he's marketing Wordpress Mage (which in my opinion is a better product anyway).

Although you may want to check for yourself since I'm no law professional, from my understanding using a review method or anything similar won't get you into trouble.

I believe the FTC rules on testimonials apply to you when you are selling your own product. Writing a review on someone else's product should be ok.

The one problem that I see is since you are an affiliate you might have to state that you are an affiliate and you will make a commission.

I personally don't do this on my review sites, just on my own personal sites. Again, not any legal advice, just my own personal choice.

The problem with the sniper system is that it promotes the product in exactly the way that the FTC are cracking down on. If you follow the system, you are basically giving a fake testimonial which, thanks to Acai etc, is now right in the firing line. I'm pretty sure review sites are not safe either.

To give any testimonial now, you have to state on the testimonial page, what the typical results are. You can no longer say "results may be non-typical" but you need to say exactly what the typical results are (as if anyone would have any idea with info products). You can't make stuff up, so unless you stick to products that you actually use you might be in trouble.

There's rumours that they only go after one industry at a time, but when they do, they pick someone and make them the example. At the moment it's going to be acai/diet. Who knows what's next.

One thing you need to know is that the product owner will also cop a big fine if you are not promoting that product legally, hence the new terms for all the affiliate networks.

Originally Posted by lotus

The problem with the sniper system is that it promotes the product in exactly the way that the FTC are cracking down on. If you follow the system, you are basically giving a fake testimonial which, thanks to Acai etc, is now right in the firing line. I'm pretty sure review sites are not safe either.

To give any testimonial now, you have to state on the testimonial page, what the typical results are. You can no longer say "results may be non-typical" but you need to say exactly what the typical results are (as if anyone would have any idea with info products). You can't make stuff up, so unless you stick to products that you actually use you might be in trouble.

There's rumours that they only go after one industry at a time, but when they do, they pick someone and make them the example. At the moment it's going to be acai/diet. Who knows what's next.

One thing you need to know is that the product owner will also cop a big fine if you are not promoting that product legally, hence the new terms for all the affiliate networks.

The problem with Acai is mostly because they used a lot of celebrities names, pics, etc without consent.

This not only brought the spotlight on it as a product, but it also got the FTC aware of people using fake tactics.

With that said, I for don't see any problem saying "I had this problem, I found this product, and this is how it helped me out". This is basically just your own opinion on a product/service. Plus with proxies, private hosting, etc, you can cover your ass pretty well.

Not saying to outright ignore the FTC, that's just stupid. But I personally don't see anything wrong about posting your independent review on a product or service.

Just gotta change up your game a little bit.

I followed not only GS but other "proven" methods too. Forget them all. You can rank for a low competition keyword easily, but forget about the traffic if you are among the first three on G´s1. I had a lot of sites on G´s page 2, some even on page 1 (rank 7 and 8) and have never seen more than 6-16 unique visitors. Turning to direct marketing now starting with emailing.

obviously you wont get any trafic on page 2 or the bottom of page 1.

just promote the site a bit, and only aim for keywords wich you can rank top 3 for without to much trouble.

i never look at phrase or intitle competition, i dont care if there is 1k or 10 million competing pages, you just need to beat the top 3 listings in the serps, so just analyze them.
do they have keyworded domains, is it an authority site, how many links, and how many with the keyword in anchor, are the page titles an exact match to the keyword. etc.etc.

if you can match number 3, you automaticly leave all other 10 million pages behind you.
it isn`t rocket sience..

I used the sniper method too. Optimised a new website for an keyword that gets 3000 searches a month. I did everything exactly like he told in his book... But since 2 weeks, I´m still on rank 158 and nothing goes forward :S

Maybe I did something wrong hmm...

It's a bit of topic but I wanted to get the opinions from people who have used GS. I've just created my first sniper site and it has been indexed on google on page 29! I've tried waiting a few days to see if it would move but its stayed there. I followed everything on the guide (build backlinks, use the right number of keywords). I just wanted to ask if others have had this problem? From the guide I got the impression you should be near the top, maybe page 3 or 4, but 29 seems way too low? Is there anything I can do to get up the top or is it just doomed?

Originally Posted by UnDerDoG81

I used the sniper method too. Optimised a new website for an keyword that gets 3000 searches a month. I did everything exactly like he told in his book... But since 2 weeks, I´m still on rank 158 and nothing goes forward :S

Maybe I did something wrong hmm...

Sometimes you get sandboxed, also you need to make sure there is nothing else that is relevant on your IP such as another domain with the same topic. In any given time I have around 10-15 different IPs that I use and when I go into the same niche then I put them on different IPs. and this seems to have helped big time as far as not getting sandboxed and rank on page 1 or 2 within 7 days of creating site. Just my experience, take it or leave it

Hey,

Well I watched Google Sniper 2 and I think I get the jist of it.
I experimented finding long tail keywords in quotes <2k per month and around 10k google search page results and have found one that is 8 words long and is a marketable product. I think there is already one guy/gal who has taken advantage and has about 3 sites (unique domains) on the first page and one or two on the second. Obviously I can't know whether this guy is making any money from them, but I am hoping to learn from example here..

Already posted my story on some other threads.. basically I was in adult biz up until a few years ago.. made a living doing PPC from about 2004-2007/8. Before that tried SEO but failed miserably... even PPC was fail in the beggining until I found 2nd/3rd tier PPC's and learned the craft so to speak.. goclick went out of biz and 7search seems sucks traffic and I don't wanna be in Adult anymore.. anyway.. need to get my teeth stuck in SEO and see some gradual results. Thanks heaps!

I think that GS2 does not give GS1 much improvement. There's only one new module which is about outsourcing and it's been getting much stick in the WF till the thread there got closed.

I'm making money from one sniper site, but agree with a lot of the comments as it really is finding the best product and keywords.

I think it's hard to find super easy keywords to rank for that also lead to sales. I have a few sniper sites and a lot generate traffic but no sales. I can't say it doesn't work, one site is making pretty good money for the low traffic. But like others have said, you need to get the right keywords and you will probably need to invest some more time/money into SEO than what is mentioned in Google Sniper these days to get good rankings.

I have just finished watching Gsniper2, and I rather like some of the ideas. Of course I ignore the idea that you don't need to build backlinks, and build lots of backlinks, but there's a lot to take from the course, and it works well. I also like the bonus method of building sniper sites to target pre-launch IM products....I am trying that method on at the moment.

Did anyone grab his upsell for how he built a site from scratch?

Originally Posted by spuunman

Is anyone with google sniper 2 willing to share with bhw?

Maybe they would be...but they can't...it's on the DNS...