I have been reading this forum and it is truly amazing so much knowledge to learn.

I have a breif question on the software XRumer.

If i get my website blasted on the forums that creates backlinks and there is around a 5% success rate and the more backlinks increases your search rank.

Is there a chance google will de-index my website for such a thing? If so can i prevent it by registering another domain name and then redirecting that to my website? or will google ban both domains?

Can Xrummer be focused on certain forums and keywords?

What is a safe amount to blast if i dont want to draw to much attention at once?

If i only need this done once do you guys know of anyone i can hire to blast out my site?

never expierenced Ban by google using xrumer i have blasted many sites. Your site won't be banned by offpage SEO. In other words you will not get banned for things other people can do for your site. Only way your site can be banned by google is when you use shady on page SEO like keyword stuffing cloaking etc.

really? that is good to know that you can not be banned but i have read posts by people saying that their website dissapeared in google (sand boxed) is there any truth to those posts?

What is the most you blasted at a single website? Does the blast help the website forever?

Originally Posted by cdc515

What is a safe amount to blast if i dont want to draw to much attention at once?

I'm way late on this, so I don't know if you're still interested, but if you're buying blasts you want to check out what you're buying first, as most XR forum blasts that you can buy are in fact totally worthless.

Sure, they'll set the bot running, and it will sign up at 100,000 forums, for you, and it will make it's posts, leaving your link, but in the majority of cases, on the active forums that it manages to post on, those posts, that signature, and your links will be removed when the sites moderator finds them, and on the sites where they are not removed, you're usually talking about "dead forums", and google doesn't value any back links from such sites.

On top of that, with collaborative anti-spam initiatives these days, your link is going to be recognized as a spam site, so when it appears elsewhere legitimately it could well lead to real people, and real links being deleted, so as an end result you can be paying good money for a blast, that will actually leave you in a worse position than you started with.

The two main problems with XR are that, a) the majority of sites are now aware of it, and prepared for it, and b) the majority of people who use it don't have the first clue about what they are doing, and make themselves so obvious that they are just wasting their time.

In a lot of cases they don't care because it's not their links, they are selling the blast to someone else, so they don't care if some sucker is paying them $99 to get their site viewed negatively, they'll go right out and do what they said they will, and they'll provide logs to prove they did it, and maybe an odd link to an example that they did it, but they won't point out how useless the exercise was.

If you want to use XR, and if you want it to be effective, then you really need to do your homework first, research how effective any individual offering blasts really is, and make sure that your blast isn't a two minute wonder, that's going to be almost instantly deleted, because you were advertising sex toys, on a forum thread about some poor old ladies cat, who got run over, or because the guy selling you the blast picked a totally inappropriate forum to spam (for example by trying to spam pork based products, on a Jewish forum), or because the idiot chose to go with a username like David, while listing himself as a woman, or because he used an email, or proxy, that's flagged by every service as a spambot, or one of the million and one other schoolboy errors that these guys all to frequently make.

xr works, but as the commenter above me said, do your hw first... use it wisely.

Instead just asking you should do what this person has done...

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackha...st-page-4.html

Start experimenting and learning..

I recently bought two small blasts.. I was dissapointed to see the crap links it produced. Not saying that xr is crap. but like posted above. do your homework. I randomly checked some of the forums in the list of thousands that was provided. All of them were 'dead'. When i looked at the recent posts. all the usernames were random characters, and all of the posts were spun up porn adv. garbage.

the people selling these blasts (or at least the two that i ordered from), just reuse the same list.

yea sure, they may ask you what keywords you use. But i doubt that they actually scrape for blogs/forums under those keywords.

I did see a healthy jump in my yahoo site explorer backlinks. although, the blasts were done just a few days ago. I'll check to see if they had any value at all in the long run.


example of a forum:
1 category - general.. that was it.. only one category. there were 100k+ posts inside of it. all spam.

I think it's best to learn some under-the-radar forum backlinking methods, try a bit manually and then go for a blast.

xrumer should only be used as a tool. not an endall

we are here talking about putting backlinks as post, why not trying to put your backlinks to forum profile which is make your site under the radar.

i don't think every forum owner will checking each user profile unless they had found something suspicious on the username

After getting your profile link then the next process is how to get this link get indexed since profile link are more harder to get indexed compared if you put your link on forum post but it was less spammy and really make your site stay under the radar

correct me if i'm wrong

yeah profile links creating i the best option say u create 10K profiles 3K gone deleted but still 7K u have later after 15 days or something u can reuse them for posting and they loo more real then and also stick !!

yep - definitely i prefer profile links
u can go really under the radar w xrumer... create profile, wait, then add links... these will stick more.... however, i don't think ppl selling links do it this way...

really xrumer is just a tool. create some forum links by hand to learn what sticks, then you can get massive results with xr

Originally Posted by aishahriar

yep - definitely i prefer profile links
u can go really under the radar w xrumer... create profile, wait, then add links... these will stick more.... however, i don't think ppl selling links do it this way...

really xrumer is just a tool. create some forum links by hand to learn what sticks, then you can get massive results with xr

yeah because it's take more time and some buyer cannot wait longer

blasting one url from last 2 weeks 24/7 non stp didn't got banned yet .. its a one year old domain with pr 2 ... i am w8ing for the next crawl to see the change in ranking .. i have gained a huge junk yard of links .. i am just trying wat happend when u make loads of links ...

Hey boiler - I do agree. I have a friend selling SEO blasts etc (not sure if she does XR as well) and honestly, buyers who want links just want links. They don't know what a crap link is!!

Seriously - that's why you gotta learn about SEO first then go for automation!

Originally Posted by lilmasta

blasting one url from last 2 weeks 24/7 non stp didn't got banned yet .. its a one year old domain with pr 2 ... i am w8ing for the next crawl to see the change in ranking .. i have gained a huge junk yard of links .. i am just trying wat happend when u make loads of links ...

trust me, your site will going to sandbox if you doing it non stop

Originally Posted by aishahriar

Hey boiler - I do agree. I have a friend selling SEO blasts etc (not sure if she does XR as well) and honestly, buyers who want links just want links. They don't know what a crap link is!!

Seriously - that's why you gotta learn about SEO first then go for automation!

i'm learning it by blasting my own site and i'm always tell my clients about what is good and what is not on backlinks building.

in case they don't know anything about backlinks and just want to get backlinks then i will make it as profile links as that one was the best backlinks to not getting sandboxed from google

anyway about what people call crap links, i'm also experienced, even a forum spammed as hell but links from that forum still counted in the eye of search engine as long we put the right custom footprint on it

Crap links are great if you use them the right way ...

where can you buy XRumer ?

See my sig

use it on a new domain if possible. I mean you already paid like $300? for xrumer why take chances, use it on a new domain with some filler content. Then if it gets PR do a 301 redirect to your main domain and wait for the pr to transfer over.

Nice and easy!

It really does depend on how you do it... i've been "using" a very dear list of mine for some time now, and occasionally when I check a forum, some guy called XxaxljsxjaxASXa creates a thread, and there's like 100 posts from him there...

Sure the IP is different (proxies) but the rookies use the same name... and the "advanced" ones use generics but it still screams "FAKE" and the post is the same...

In my opinion, there's nothing called a "crappy" link ... it all adds value, just some more than others..

The value of bots on the forums worth having links on is rapidly decreasing because detection is improving. The serious downside of using xrumer (or anything similar) is finding yourself banned from the forums that really count... and even if you return with a new ID and hand-built posts you may get canned the moment they see a sig that spammed the heck out of the forum before.

OTOH, if you want short term gains and a bad rep longterm... the method works fine.

Originally Posted by realitycheck

The value of bots on the forums worth having links on is rapidly decreasing because detection is improving. The serious downside of using xrumer (or anything similar) is finding yourself banned from the forums that really count... and even if you return with a new ID and hand-built posts you may get canned the moment they see a sig that spammed the heck out of the forum before.

OTOH, if you want short term gains and a bad rep longterm... the method works fine.

To many "good" sites are getting far to wised up for general spam now, and as you say, it can have a major knock on, in the sense that it can lead to a massive loss of rep, and the removal of legitimate links.

I know a few forums now that stick any spammed link into the word filter, so that if people come back, and add a link legitimately by hand, they get to post nothing more than http://************.com, and that sort of thing is only going to increase.

It's like a lot of things, the amateurs who don't know what they are doing, help kill it for those who do.

XR, and other such tools can still be useful, but I'd say, personal experience, tells me that only about 1% of people can use the thing effectively, and most of the other 99% just make things worse for that 1% every day, that's especially true if you're working on a "quality" project, rather than something that's short term, and that it doesn't matter if it get's slammed as spam.

Originally Posted by Camsam

It really does depend on how you do it... i've been "using" a very dear list of mine for some time now, and occasionally when I check a forum, some guy called XxaxljsxjaxASXa creates a thread, and there's like 100 posts from him there...

Sure the IP is different (proxies) but the rookies use the same name... and the "advanced" ones use generics but it still screams "FAKE" and the post is the same...

Some people have no clue, it really is so obvious, and screams "I am a spambot!" and then it becomes counterproductive, not only for the individual, but for everyone else too, as it leads to forums upping their filters, and controls.

In my opinion, there's nothing called a "crappy" link ... it all adds value, just some more than others..

Technically that can be argued, but then you can also give someone a skateboard, and argue there's no such thing as a crappy car, but I doubt the guy who wanted a "real" car would be happy that he got a skateboard instead.

The value of a "crappy" link can be so low that it's not worth any time, effort, or finance to achieve, especially if it shitcan's your reputation.

I've watched people go out before and get 200k "crappy" links, and rank lower in the major search engines than people with about 2k regular links.

Am I going to spend time, money, and my reputation to do it the first way?

No, so to me it has no value.

Originally Posted by Paul_X

Technically that can be argued, but then you can also give someone a skateboard, and argue there's no such thing as a crappy car, but I doubt the guy who wanted a "real" car would be happy that he got a skateboard instead.

The value of a "crappy" link can be so low that it's not worth any time, effort, or finance to achieve, especially if it shitcan's your reputation.

I've watched people go out before and get 200k "crappy" links, and rank lower in the major search engines than people with about 2k regular links.

Am I going to spend time, money, and my reputation to do it the first way?

No, so to me it has no value.

I agree with you - partly. The thing you dont take into consideration is the time factor - ie. 200k "crappy" link vs. 2k regular links... I mean with a 100mbit ded. server and xrumer (assuming all the links from xrumer are crappy) - you have 200k in no time. But 2k regular links need abit more attention and time - then you can argue what's best for you...

- 200k fast but crappy
- 2k slow but regular

What i just wanted to say is - even with good lists and trained XR, you still get a few crappy links and what im saying is, these links are better than nothing

Originally Posted by boiler

trust me, your site will going to sandbox if you doing it non stop

Lmfao .. i will post the results real soon

Originally Posted by lilmasta

Lmfao .. i will post the results real soon

well i got 1 of my site going into sandbox because i'm blasting it more then 5 million url in 1 month but then i'm manage it to out from sandbox in 1 week approx using xrumer too