It's developed by a guy called Sorn. By the sales page, it looks like a kickass program. $400 is a pretty hefty price for 3 months use. Anyone have any thoughts about it?

Looks like pretty powerful stuff.

It GEOTargets and you can change the offers and monetize on the fly. That's what makes it look so tempting.



From Sorn-Soft.com :

Features:

* Complete Geo-Location - (Send the right offers to the right country)
* Silent Installation
* On-The-Fly Offer Management - (Ability to change your offers when ever you wish)
* Easy-to-Use Administration User Interface
* Stealth Mode - (A new feature to advoid network/advertiser detection)
* Randomizing Offers Distribution
* Ordered Offer Distribution - (Control the order the offers are distributed each day)
* Per Offer Throttle Control - (Control how many time a particular offer is completed a day)
* System Wide Throttle Control - (Control how many offers total a day are completed)
* Complete Logs on Emails, Installs, and Offers Served
* Customizable Offers Served Log - (See how well you are performing each day, week, month)
* Ability to interface with Santa's Silent Downloader
* Completes both Page 1 and Page 2 screens on the offers
* Auto Assigning User Agents per Install
* Email List Support

This is somewhat similar to Secret Submit Method but more targetted to PPI people I believe.

Very pricey. Worth it if you can get it working, but saw lots of threads where they had only made <$100 over 2-3 months. SSD costs extra ($75) last I heard, and it may be necessary to keep it undetected.

Actually not sure if this is supposed to be discussed in this forum.

And yes, similar to SSM.

This is not PPI and is related to CPA so I believe it is allowed.

I can imagine making $500 a day with this seeing as to how you can add like 10
CPA offers so $10 per download so if 50 people download software which is very easy just post to wares forums, it's easy money.

But honestly, I think there's a chance of getting banned with this.

Imagine outsourcing the downloads...
Posted via Mobile Device

I'll tell you that its profitable because I've used it in the past.

If you get 20 networks and spread it out well you will make money but I can't say it will last too long. Unless you get some good leads in there too.

So lilwayne, you're saying you can get banned?

Do you recommend it?
Posted via Mobile Device

Originally Posted by Silencer

So lilwayne, you're saying you can get banned?

Do you recommend it?
Posted via Mobile Device

I did get banned after my first pay check. Made about 1.5k on 2 different networks.

I say use it if you dont care about getting banned.. You will make money but for how long I cant say.

By the way its not as easy as you think to get active people via torrents. Theres tons of factors why the payload wont run (anti virus, os problems, firewall, etc etc etc)

so for every 500 downloads expect like 20 active.

Wait what reason did you get for being banned. How many networks did you use? And did you fake or blank the referer? Thx for answering btw!
Posted via Mobile Device

Originally Posted by Silencer

Wait what reason did you get for being banned. How many networks did you use? And did you fake or blank the referer? Thx for answering btw!
Posted via Mobile Device

I blanked, I used 2 (maxbounty and elitecomissions).

maxbounty banned me for bad quality which is why everyone using that software will eventually get banned. If leads don't convert the advertiser is paying you out of their own pocket.

I have a lot of experience with this thing.. I personally may or may not of worked with sorn in the past. I have also coded my own.

Wow so you put a whopping 1k in each account? I can't believe you got paid man...

And you stopped using it? How much did you make per successful download?
Posted via Mobile Device

Originally Posted by Silencer

Wow so you put a whopping 1k in each account? I can't believe you got paid man...

And you stopped using it? How much did you make per successful download?
Posted via Mobile Device

lol that was a year ago and I didn't need to make that petty amount compared to what I was making then. :P

Do this:
1. Spread to many networks
2. 20$ a day on each network
3. It adds up get paid keep applying to new networks.

Wow that's $600 a month per network that's crazy lol.

So you DO recommend it?
Posted via Mobile Device

Originally Posted by Silencer

Wow that's $600 a month per network that's crazy lol.

So you DO recommend it?
Posted via Mobile Device

Yes i do..

So this thing is stealth, wow pretty powerful software.

I talked with Sorn and he said he has yet to be banned I guess he plays it safe.

Thanks for replying to my questions lilwayne. Will +rep you when I get on my pc
Posted via Mobile Device

Used it in the past. Made 1k in the first day of use on incentaclick and 400 on neverblue. Got warnings the day after but still got paid. In total I made 2-3k from it, but then I couldn't keep up with installs and torrents just got annoying.

But if you can get some outsourcing done, and have 10-20 cpa accounts, then its a pretty good program to use. You can cash about 1k per network until you get a warning. Then you can invest back and buy accounts (usually like 50-60 dollars each) and rinse and repeate.

Originally Posted by gh0st

Used it in the past. Made 1k in the first day of use on incentaclick and 400 on neverblue. Got warnings the day after but still got paid. In total I made 2-3k from it, but then I couldn't keep up with installs and torrents just got annoying.

But if you can get some outsourcing done, and have 10-20 cpa accounts, then its a pretty good program to use. You can cash about 1k per network until you get a warning. Then you can invest back and buy accounts (usually like 50-60 dollars each) and rinse and repeate.

What do you mean by warning?

I know accounts are $50 each to buy CPA accounts, but once you get banned, I thought you couldn't use the same name and address?

God I'm so excited.

I might try this except it's too risky.

DEFINITELY not risking my good accounts though (Ads4Dough, MaxBounty, Adscend).

Is this leaning towards super unethical or what? I'm confused whether I should get this...

Originally Posted by Silencer

What do you mean by warning?

I know accounts are $50 each to buy CPA accounts, but once you get banned, I thought you couldn't use the same name and address?

They said i should stop the bs traffic or i would get banned.

You can't but you can setup a llc. As for the address you can do a simple trick like

3422 address rd.
to
3422 address rd. #202

The appartment number makes it a "unique" address but the check goes to 3422 address rd. still

Nice idea ghost thanks.

So this is safe? They won't ban you and you get paid and you just stop when they warn you? I smell monies
Posted via Mobile Device

I have sd3 and it is a very good product and sorn does support his stuff. I'm sure its great. I think that was a big reason ssm took a dump. Was the competition. If you do buy it make sure yu also buy sd3 it will greatly increase your cashflow.

Silencer it's not esay as it seems. lots of hassle and not good for the long run.

Originally Posted by Silencer

Nice idea ghost thanks.

So this is safe? They won't ban you and you get paid and you just stop when they warn you? I smell monies
Posted via Mobile Device

No some warn you while others straight up ban you. But if you do like 10-20 dollars a day on 10-20 networks then 1-2 bans wont matter

you know if you spent $400 on gmails and proxies you could easily triple your money. with this you have to get installs first and unless you're getting 1000's per day already this will be a task and a half.

not to mention that the exe is sometimes already detected by AV's and you'll have to get a new stub so it's FUD again.

then you can go on the forum and hope that someone there can help you figure out why the conversions from your installs are so low and why you aren't printing money with this thing....

there's not much support from sorn either and you'll have to hope that he graces you with a reply to your question within 2-3 days. that is if he even responds.

but feel free to buy it as you may have different results.

SMW I talked to Sorn and he said it is fully fud and he updates it if av s start detecting it. You do know there is a new live chat on his site instead of the ticket system?
Posted via Mobile Device

Originally Posted by gragster

I have sd3 and it is a very good product and sorn does support his stuff. I'm sure its great. I think that was a big reason ssm took a dump. Was the competition. If you do buy it make sure yu also buy sd3 it will greatly increase your cashflow.

Why would I need sd3 isn't cpax complete by itself and a binder? What does sd3 do exactly that improves conversions?
Posted via Mobile Device

What does sd3 do exactly that improves conversions?

It downloads the Latest FUD from the URL you provide and updates .EXE in your victim's PC .

That's pretty cool, but I believe that's considered a botnet? I would so get one if it wasn't illegal.

Back to the program, this thread is very interesting, anymore opinions about cpax?
Posted via Mobile Device

Originally Posted by Silencer

That's pretty cool, but I believe that's considered a botnet? I would so get one if it wasn't illegal.

Back to the program, this thread is very interesting, anymore opinions about cpax?
Posted via Mobile Device

Oh I agree. Now I havent personally started using this yet but I have read alot about the new version and do agree with the advice that making $20-$50 per day across 10-20 networks would be best. I see it as another tool to add to the mix with legit traffic I send to the networks. I think thats the difference is you have to be giving them something good out of it. Throwing all shit traffic at your network thats brand new and its the first offers your promoting wont last long. Im thining of getting this either monday or tuesday. I will let you know if I do. Maybe someone want to do JV?

Originally Posted by blackhat+er

Oh I agree. Now I havent personally started using this yet but I have read alot about the new version and do agree with the advice that making $20-$50 per day across 10-20 networks would be best. I see it as another tool to add to the mix with legit traffic I send to the networks. I think thats the difference is you have to be giving them something good out of it. Throwing all shit traffic at your network thats brand new and its the first offers your promoting wont last long. Im thining of getting this either monday or tuesday. I will let you know if I do. Maybe someone want to do JV?

Yea I may purchase this too, not absolutely sure though...

A JV would be pretty cool you can throw someones CPA offers in in exchange for them getting you downloads. Sounds easy.

i dont recommend it .First its nothing for the longrun.Second remember you need mostly to invest more money like for a seedingbox to "get your users".
After that you need to worry for each payment if you will get it or not.Many offers are shaving you to hell so you wont earn on this CPA.As i remember the old CPAX run for just about 4-5 working CPA companies.Support is slow.Mostly offline and after some time just disappear completly from IM or maybe he changed his ID without informaing anybody.The board get dead also very quick and vexus had problems to add new customers to this board (cause sorn and vexus) made support on the same board and sorn had the masterrights.
So i would be very carefully expecially that i bought CPAX didnt made a dime cause it wasnt worth the hassle and even didnt get a special offer for the new one (which i would never buy)

My 5 Cents

Wow that sounds horrible...didn't think it would be that bad.

Do you HAVE to use torrents? I mean, I have about 10 accounts at popular warez sites, and have an autoposter, seems far easier than torrents.

no you just need to get people to execute the .exe file

Damn, ok I'm so confused wether I should buy this.

3 people said yes.

2 say they didn't like it but go ahead.

heres what you have to consider. Its risky may not get paid. using sd3 with it or not its probably not legal since it is unauthorized access to someones computer. 2-3 days for support is a god send compared to ssm which could take months or never.

Santa is on sorns team and does a great job at least with sd3 I dont own cpax so cant comment. Seedboxes are cheap less than $50 a month for a decent ones its a price of doing business.

you dont have to use torrents though that seems like the most common. Any cpa advertiser will kill your account regardless of what blackhat method you use if they find out your doing blackhat or your leads dont convert so expect to throw in some real ones.

This is really just an easier way of using godcpa so instead of tricking a user into filling an offer they dont even know about it.

Hope this helps make your decision one way or another. If you dont have cash to pay for it at least 3 months and buy a a seedbox and submit a bunch of torrents or however you will promote it, or do not buy it. You wont have the cash to get it working.

So uploading torrents is a MUST. There's no other effective way such as warez sites?
Posted via Mobile Device

Originally Posted by Silencer

So uploading torrents is a MUST. There's no other effective way such as warez sites?
Posted via Mobile Device

no. you dont even have to do any warez either. You can buy installs from people for like 5-10 cents each.

Ok alot of changes have taken place since version 1.0 namely the email list and the stealth feature.

Email list: Allows you to add your own 'live' and 'legit' emails you have scraped or obtained through purchasing or a squeeze site.

Stealth Feature: Although I still have the blanked referrer feature left in I also have included this stealth feature that allows you to Produce (Impressions, Clicks, and Conversions) on your offers now this also passes the page the offer banner is located on as the referrer so you produce a trackable source of traffic for your offers. This was added since alot of networks these days get pretty upset and ask alot of questions about blanked referrers and some just straight up and ban you if you blank. I strongly strongly suggest using this feature rather then leaving it turned off. because it will save you alot of headaches in the future.

Is it worth it to buy? That is a question you need to ask yourself. With any blackhat method or tool there is a risk of losing accounts, and this tool is no different. I do however try and take as many precautions as possible to make it as safe as it can be.

On the Topic of SD3 + CPAX.... SD3 is not needed for the functionality of CPAX and doesn't effect it in any way. Alot of SD3 users are also CPAX users and vice-versa so I added support for SD3 to be used along side CPAX as a additional tool to help you distribute your exe.

CPAX isn't PPI but is closely related due to the fact that you need to gain installs for CPAX to work properly.

Like a few others have said here, stay under the radar, if you are not producing $100/day on each network already, don't come blasting out of the gate the first few weeks you have CPAX and try to earn that. Set the throttles to maintain a acceptable earning and slowly increase it as time goes on. This will allow for a more natural and organic increase of your performance on the networks.

Actually now is the best time to jump off the fence if you are going to, as we are running a thanksgiving promotion where CPAX = $300 and SD3 = 150 so you can get both of them for $450 total, saving you a few dollars if you get it during the sale.

Also please note that JV's are not permitted on the CPAX system, your account will be deactivated.

Originally Posted by gh0st

no. you dont even have to do any warez either. You can buy installs from people for like 5-10 cents each.

Wow. I just found someone who offered me 1,000 USA installs for $150. Yes I know him and he is a reputed member so is trustable.

But each US person running CPAx would generate about $10 atleast (because you can put in like 20 offers per download for CPAx I've heard).

So I would expect $10,000 with a $100 investment?

Doesn't that sordof sound messed up?

Originally Posted by Silencer

Wow. I just found someone who offered me 1,000 USA installs for $150. Yes I know him and he is a reputed member so is trustable.

But each US person running CPAx would generate about $10 atleast (because you can put in like 20 offers per download for CPAx I've heard).

So I would expect $10,000 with a $100 investment?

Doesn't that sordof sound messed up?

THat just sounds to Good to be true...be careful..

Originally Posted by Silencer

That's pretty cool, but I believe that's considered a botnet? I would so get one if it wasn't illegal.

Back to the program, this thread is very interesting, anymore opinions about cpax?
Posted via Mobile Device

using the tool is illegal also :/ or do you really think that installing a "hidden" software which can be used to remote control some functions of the victims pc is legal? the installation doesn´t have the usual "ToS" and this software could get you in some serious troubles. cpaxtreme is a http controled botnet and filling out cpa offers with this software is pure fraud and violates several internet/data security laws. this software isn´t just "blackhat" it´s a real crime to use it in nearly every country.

Originally Posted by foppa

using the tool is illegal also :/ or do you really think that installing a "hidden" software which can be used to remote control some functions of the victims pc is legal? the installation doesn´t have the usual "ToS" and this software could get you in some serious troubles. cpaxtreme is a http controled botnet and filling out cpa offers with this software is pure fraud and violates several internet/data security laws. this software isn´t just "blackhat" it´s a real crime to use it in nearly every country.

Hmmm, well it doesn't exactly "install", I've heard it just runs one time and that's it...

Back on topic, anymore opinions about this?

Originally Posted by Silencer

Hmmm, well it doesn't exactly "install", I've heard it just runs one time and that's it...

Back on topic, anymore opinions about this?

I havent got the program although I have read a lot about it and will get it. I think you will find it installs itself on the victims machine and stays hidden and calls back to the server to get the information to fill in for as long as it stays on the victims machine. Secret Submit just runs once. This stays resident on the machine.

Originally Posted by islandman1010

I havent got the program although I have read a lot about it and will get it. I think you will find it installs itself on the victims machine and stays hidden and calls back to the server to get the information to fill in for as long as it stays on the victims machine. Secret Submit just runs once. This stays resident on the machine.

Wow damn... Sorn is a genius.

That's it, I'm getting it, maybe just to play around with it a bit.

hi, how can you outsource? thx