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    Default How can I write a 500 word article in under 15 minutes?

    This post contains a lot of rambling so I have put the only important parts in bold.

    I used to earn a lot of money writing 150 word BMR posts (I could write one in under 3 minutes), but after the demise of the BMR network, I have had to start writing 500 word articles. Due to the huge number of writers now looking for work, however, the only way to make any sort of living from freelance SEO article writing is to be able to write a 500 word article in under 15 minutes.

    While being paid $2.5 for a 500 word article is scandalous, I understand that, sadly, it is now considered a good wage in the industry -- just take a look at the number of applicants bidding on jobs on Odesk that pay $1 for a 500 word article. Anyway, I think if I could write 4 articles an hour that works out to be $10 per hour, which is an acceptable wage for me.

    Currently, I am frequently finding myself spending nearly two hours constructing one 500 word article. Yes, I produce a highly researched, succinct article, but for SEO backlinking purposes, this type of article is completely redundant. I am driving myself insane. I think, or rather I know, that my extensive research is hindering my ability to write quickly, as I seem to think that the aim is to summarize everything known to man about the keyword.

    So, how do you write a 500 word article in 15 minutes? Do you do no research at all and just try to write everything you already know about the keyword down? Is it best to just find one good article about the keyword and rewrite it? Do you limit your writing to a subtopic of the keyword? On average how long does it take you to write a 500 word article? (btw I am talking about a cheap 500 word SEO article or blog post for backlinking, not a 500 word article for quality website content.)

    My current 500 word article writing process (definitely not recommend lol):

    1. Receive keyword from client (usually with no accompanying instructions, pointers or criteria).
    2. Immediately get a migraine because the keyword is something ridiculous like “UPVC windows”, “forex” or “padded compression shorts”.
    3. Visit a multitude of different websites, including news sites, research paper databases, media gossip columns, article directories and discussions forums, and copy snippets of important facts and insightful opinions into a MS Word document.

    45 minutes later…

    4. Realize that my MS Word document contains about 60 bullet points of important information related to the keyword and is 2000 words long.
    5. Decide to stop my research.
    6. Read all of the information in my MS Word document and construct an article outline.
    7. Flesh out article outline by rewriting, rephrasing and reorganizing the snippets from my 2000 word MS Word document.

    45 minutes later…

    8. Proofread my 500 word article and make several alterations.

    20 minutes later…

    9. Send my article to the client. Receive no feedback or perhaps “it will do” or “my friend you working on next article now and I receive when?” and a message about how payment will be delayed.
    10. “It will do”? Are you serious? What did you expect for $2.50? Proceed to get angry and frustrated and start to wish I could find just find some normal employment.
    11. Visit various online forums and read about how people who have English as their second language are able to write 500 word prolific literary masterpieces in less than 10 minutes.
    12. Feelings of anger and frustration replaced with feelings of apathy and depression. Is there even any point at all?

    Somehow I managed to make $70 last week, but article writing took over my whole life. Also, $70 is like £40, which is less than what you would earn for one day’s work at minimum wage in the UK. Fortunately my family is able to support me at the moment, but their financial support it not forever. I need to start making at least $200 per week ASAP.

    8 hour working day writing four $2.50 articles per hour = $80 per day. It sounds so easy…

    Now that I have written this post I am not sure what purpose it serves, as I am aware that it is just a self-indulgent rant. Never mind, I think I have actually gone insane.

    This forum post is nearly 800 words and it only took me about 8 minutes to write. I don’t get it…

    Anyway, if anyone has any insights or thoughts I would like to read them.

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    Default Re: How can I write a 500 word article in under 15 minutes?

    My writers write 7 to 10 articles per day, it's a 8h job, where in the end they have around 45 minutes to create a proper 500 words article. To me, that's the best time one can get, 15 minutes is just random rambling without any meaning.

    Stop focusing on cheap articles which don't have value, start writing articles which carry value (link bait content, reviews etc) and which you can sell for more
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    Default Re: How can I write a 500 word article in under 15 minutes?

    Don't take this the wrong way or as a suggestion to NOT work hard but I think you're trying to over deliver for something that you are really getting underpaid for. I think that if you want to be thorough for a particular keyword it should be something that you have had some prior experience writing about, since your writing would be natural and fluid. However, for something like "UPVC windows" I wouldn't wreck my brain over it. Just try to create a routine or a set method for writing your articles, for example, once you find 4-6 important points on the topic you begin writing immediately.

    Just my two cents, hope you don't stress yourself out too much. I'm doing my Masters in linguistics and literature right now and honestly, being chill when you write is one of the most important things.

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    I know this can sound as an insult for someone with the mastery of an English language you are displaying, but did you ever considered to try out article templates? Not for each and every of them, mind you, but for some few in between?

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    Default Re: How can I write a 500 word article in under 15 minutes?

    First run them through google keyword tool and get the longtails from there. Then go to Instant article wizard and get some articles from it. Get the facts and make the article. Shouldn't take more than 20 mins IMO. I do it in 15 but they are mostly rewritten.

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    Default Re: How can I write a 500 word article in under 15 minutes?

    I also used IAW to generate and rewrite articles.

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    Default Re: How can I write a 500 word article in under 15 minutes?

    How about this?

    Fuck the guys that will pay you $2.50/500 words, market yourself for what you are worth.

    You can spend 15 minutes an article and provide average content, or acquire clients that pay for quality writing and get paid $10-$15 an article, and believe me they are out there.

    You might need to change your writing style from random crap to highly targeted, but don't sell yourself short; don't compete with mediocre quality, set your own quality and find clients willing to pay.

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    Default Re: How can I write a 500 word article in under 15 minutes?

    Thanks for all the advice everyone. I was stressing out yesterday.

    Quote Originally Posted by baronthedivined View Post
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    My typing speed it not really the problem so I don’t think that software would help. Also, don’t your family/friends/roommates get annoyed when you are dictating random articles?

    I tried IAW on the 7 day trial a few weeks ago, but it seemed to take ages to gather results and often returned nothing. I can’t justify the $77 dollar investment at the moment and there is no way to extend the trial. Is there any other software that is similar to IAW?

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    Default Re: How can I write a 500 word article in under 15 minutes?

    with your writing skill I'd suggest you start selling on IM forums, you can offer your service until you got enough regular customer to keep you working full time. Don't try to find a way to write 500 words article in 15 min, believe me most of the webmaster out there are now looking for high quality articles for there websites and are struggling to find someone with your writing abilities.

    With enough regular customers you will be able to cut down the research time, as they will be ordering for limited niches that you already researched and became familiar with.

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    Default Re: How can I write a 500 word article in under 15 minutes?

    I do this (if you can type fast its great). and it not exactly breaking news or rocket science.

    Google whatever KW you have been given. find a good article. paste into word. read one paragraph, rewrite the information manually, delete paragraph.. done. let someone else do the research and just rewrite.

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    Definitely charge more money. You seem to produce good articles, due to the fact you're researching before hand and you're putting decent energy and time into your work. Easily charge $1 per 100 words.

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    Default Re: How can I write a 500 word article in under 15 minutes?

    Your approach to article writing is good if you are generating content that will fetch you a lot of money, or if you are writing for your own sites. However, for the rate you are currently getting, you are just overworking yourself.

    If someone paid me just $2.50 for a 500 word article, this is what I would do.

    Ask the client about what message they want the article to convey. That will usually give you a pretty good idea of how the article needs to be structured.

    Next, I would load up just two or three articles with that keyword, from sites like Ezine. If you are getting a good rate, you will obviously have to dig for better research sources. At $2.50 per 100 words, I wouldn't go beyond Ezine articles and other popular article directories.

    Give the article a once over and just spend a couple of minutes on thinking about how to rewrite it, in such a way that it will suit your client. Don't stress out if you think the quality is mediocre. If your client paid you more, you can feel guilty about that.

    Bang out your article without hitting the backspace key, even if you have a lot of typos. Not hitting the backspace key will allow you to put out an article much faster than when you try to go back and correct all the silly mistakes. Use the right click to fix those obvious errors as they will be underlined in red, for you to clearly see.

    Proof read the article once. Send it over.

    I think the real issue here is for you to understand the relation between quality of content and the amount of money you are getting paid for it. If you are the type that just can't write ordinary content, choose clients accordingly. Don't sign up for the ones that just want content for the sake of content.

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    Default Re: How can I write a 500 word article in under 15 minutes?

    There are two things you should do:

    1) For the $2.50 articles - Get keywords - open ezinearticles, articlebase, bukisa and one or two other article directories - Read two articles on the topic from each and just write the article in less than 30 minutes. This is what the clients deserve for $2.5 an article.

    2) Since you have a complete process of researching and writing good articles ( this is a really good habit, do not spoil it ) - Go to Warrior forum WSO section - check out the PLR packages which are selling. Research the common theme which is selling. Start banging out articles on the keywords. You can write articles on amazon products ( reviews - around 800 - 100 words ) , Health problems, dating and there are tons of niches on WSO part of the forum.

    3) Once you have 5 - 10 packs ready, start a WSO with a dime sale stating you would sell a 5 article pack for $5 but since its a WSO , its going only for $2.5. Once you get going, you won't be looking back. Best example of this is tiffany dow. Go read her blog. She has made more than 10k in one day selling PLR on dime sale.

    4) If you succeed with this strategy, give a few articles to me on discount

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    Default Re: How can I write a 500 word article in under 15 minutes?

    If you have the ability to write high-quality articles, write them for yourself. Make your own sites, fill them with your own content, and make the money yourself.
    The day I became self-employed was the day that I realized that if I did my job to the absolute highest level of perfection, the best I could hope to achieve was a sub-standard income.

    Unless someone can post links and supporting evidence that there is a significant demand for "high quality" articles, I'm going to disbelieve that. Google's AI can do many new things (such as knowing that you've paraphrased another article on a paragraph-by-paragraph basis), but it cannot differentiate between a $2.50 original article and a $8.00 original article.

    I think your situation is similar to someone trying to make a living picking tomatos. The quality of your tomato-picking really doesn't matter. There are minimum standards, and once you've met them, there is no economic reason for anyone to pay a premium. You can't pick faster than a machine, and you can't work cheaper than hoards of migrant workers willing to pick tomatos for less than what it costs for you to survive. I think it would be a good idea for you to focus in on the notion that the core of your career identity is that you are the best tomato-picker on the planet, the problem is that the standards for tomato picking are very low, and there are tens of thousands of people able to meet those standards and you will never be able to compete with them with the economy in it's current condition.

    So save your money, buy a farm, and grow special, exotic tomatos that people will be willing to pay you a premium for. At some point you will realize you are on a dead-end road. The sooner you do this, the better off you will be.
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    Default Re: How can I write a 500 word article in under 15 minutes?

    If it's a popular topic and you haven't been given precise instructions beyond "I want unique content," you could try the foreign translation method. Not the one where you take an English language article and run it through,say, Yahoo Babelfish 4-5 times (English to Spanish, then Spanish to German, then German to Swedish, then Swedish to French, then back to English). That takes too long, and the English you get back is too junky and choppy to be readily edited.

    Just take the root keyword niche term and translate it to a foreign language using the tool. Then take the foreign term you get and run it through Google. Voila, foreign language articles on that niche! Then translate a whole article to English using the tool. This should yield you a unique, decently-readable English article that only needs slight editing for flow. Should take 10 minutes max in order to do, start to finish.

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    Keep in mind that you are writing about something you know and are passionate about. It is a slightly different story when asked to write 5 ~500 word articles on air conditioning filters.

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    Given your level of English, my advice would be - screw the $2.50 articles! Anyone who pays $2.50 for a 500 word article should expect nothing more than auto-spun garbage, or content written by someone whose native language is not English.

    At the very least you should be commanding $1 per 100 words, but try for $2-$3 per 100. Offer 300-400 word articles on Fiverr, at least then you'll be getting close to $1 per 100 words.

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    Hell, I'm messaging you right now because I'm struggling to find a decent writer and you sounds like the man for the job.

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    Default Re: How can I write a 500 word article in under 15 minutes?

    If you are an expert then you need 30 minutes for a good article of 500 words, and if you are starter you need 1 hour for a good article, anything less than that will be just ramblings

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    Default Re: How can I write a 500 word article in under 15 minutes?

    Why are you writing for $2.50 ?

    I've found rewriting jobs for $5.00 per article...

    Also on that note I get $6 for a 500 word spin that takes me 12 minutes...

    You're finding work in the wrong places.

    Shoot me a PM and I'll give you the email of the rewriter I was working for but jogged on because I can make $60 in 2 hours spinning.

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    Stop selling yourself short. Don't take any more cheap jobs for $2.50 and start looking for jobs for the quality you want to to deliver, jobs that will make you feel good and will be appreciated by the buyer at the level you are comfortable for.

    It's not about the 500 words in 15 minutes for a dime, it's 500 words in the time you feel it won't suffer on quality, for the amount of cash you feel your job is worth.

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    Default Re: How can I write a 500 word article in under 15 minutes?

    I type 120wpm (when copying something already written), makes it quite easy. I pump out a 2000 high-quality article (good enough to use on your money site) in an hour, but that's when I'm highly knowledgeable on the subject. I done this yesterday 4 times. Research is the killer, if you don't know about the subject, or you get your grammar wrong and need to hit the backspace button a whole lot then you're in trouble. It all comes with practice. I got good by writing a shitload of emails daily at my old job.

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    I'm surprised how little you charge for how well you write. I wish I found you before.

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    Default Re: How can I write a 500 word article in under 15 minutes?

    Hi mate.

    You are selling yourself a little short. I'm from the United Kingdom like you, and i charge $3 for article re-writing upto 400 words. Therefore, $2.50 is too small for 100% original articles. I only charge $3 because obviously there is no research to be done, and my clients are very happy with the results.

    You should be charging at least $1.50 per 100 words

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    Default Re: How can I write a 500 word article in under 15 minutes?

    That post could have been written by me OP. I was making pretty good money with BMR - I had so much work, I passed half of it onto a friend, and we still had too much to cope with.

    At the moment I am making a big effort to write at least one page a day for my own sites, which earn me about 50 percent of what I need every month. I also have a client who is paying me $5 for hub creation. It is not a good hourly rate, because I add images and put a lot of effort into the research and writing. I enjoyed doing the BMR snippets whereas I do not really enjoy writing longer pieces; although I guess I am good at it, if client feedback is anything to go by.

    I am sorry I don't have advice for you - I am in the same boat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nigel Farage View Post
    Unless someone can post links and supporting evidence that there is a significant demand for "high quality" articles, I'm going to disbelieve that. Google's AI can do many new things (such as knowing that you've paraphrased another article on a paragraph-by-paragraph basis), but it cannot differentiate between a $2.50 original article and a $8.00 original article.
    That is why I am more interested in learning how to write "acceptable" articles quickly, as oppose to writing "high quality" articles for more money. My writing is not that great and many clients who pay $8 for 500 words expect articles that professional writers (who have access to professional editors and a research team) are paid over $100 to write by magazines, newspapers, etc.

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    I think your situation is similar to someone trying to make a living picking tomatoes. The quality of your tomato-picking really doesn't matter. There are minimum standards, and once you've met them, there is no economic reason for anyone to pay a premium. You can't pick faster than a machine, and you can't work cheaper than hoards of migrant workers willing to pick tomatos for less than what it costs for you to survive. I think it would be a good idea for you to focus in on the notion that the core of your career identity is that you are the best tomato-picker on the planet, the problem is that the standards for tomato picking are very low, and there are tens of thousands of people able to meet those standards and you will never be able to compete with them with the economy in it's current condition.

    So save your money, buy a farm, and grow special, exotic tomatos that people will be willing to pay you a premium for. At some point you will realize you are on a dead-end road. The sooner you do this, the better off you will be.
    I understand your point completely and I like your analogy, but the solution is not that simple. Say you buy a farm and start growing high-end exotic tomatoes that you can sell for a premium. If you are lucky, you might just be able to make enough money from the market to cover your startup costs before a multinational tomato corporation starts to notice that there is a demand for high-end exotic tomatoes. Next, the multinational tomato corporation will decide to utilize all of their existing resources and start producing a sideline of high-end exotic tomatoes. They could then undercut your prices and basically wipe you out of the market.


    I wish I could reply to more posts as a lot of people have made some very good suggestions, but I am very busy today. I am definitely saving this thread for future reference.

    To anyone who has sent me a pm, I can't reply as I don't have 15 posts. Anyway, my general reply to the messages I have received would be this – Thanks for your message but I already have a lot of work at the moment and I need to reassess the direction I am taking my writing in before I start working with/for anyone else.
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    I think the metaphor has outlived it's usefulness.

    People hire writers for one reason only, original content. Sites get listed for several reasons, and one of them is original content. You can create original content. Site owner's need you, and at $5.00 an hour, you don't need them. If you owned a site, you'd have the critical factor already, the ability to produce original content.

    Have you ever thought about starting your own sites? Have you been picking up on any SEO?

    1) A domain name with good EMD for a niche
    2) hosting service
    2) onsite SEO
    4) offsite backlinking strategies
    5) original content

    You had to have done enough articles for other people that you should have some idea about niches. Find one, get a domain, set-up hosting, write content and work on SEO.
    This entire site is (to a great extent) dedicated to helping people do just that.

    Does it make sense for you to waste that resource by instead using it to figure out how to make ends meet competing with the poorest people on the planet, while you are living one of the most expensive economies, and you have the primary skill that everyone else is paying for?

    It makes absolutely no sense. You are surrounded by extremely high-quality resources and you seem to be gripping the least profitable of them as if you had no other options.

    And I agree. For you, this thread is not an "instant answer" situation. This is a place for you to come back to, and ponder, as your time & economic situation allows.

    One idea I just had is that you might shoot the "middle gap" between professional writers with research teams and low-end foreigners writing spam in engrish. You might set-up a set "w w w.originalcontent.c o m" and sell your services at a premium, appealing to monied Internet Marketers that are willing to pay a premium not just for the content, but for the relationship and the security of dealing with an established professional that can be found and held accountable if there is a problem.

    Truly successful people will not do business with low-end labor, as they understand that success is a shared venture and in order to maximize their own potential, they must maximize the potentials of those around them. Chiselers have a stingy, tight-fisted philosophy and it infects everyone around them. People in this micro-economic relationships exert great energy fighting over the scraps instead of working together looking for the huge profit opportunities. No one thrives in the company of a chiseler, least of all the chiseler. Avoid them, and do not give in to the temptation to become one.
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    Unless someone can post links and supporting evidence that there is a significant demand for "high quality" articles, I'm going to disbelieve that. Google's AI can do many new things (such as knowing that you've paraphrased another article on a paragraph-by-paragraph basis), but it cannot differentiate between a $2.50 original article and a $8.00 original article.
    Seriously? There's a common misconception that your content should be written with search engines in mind - that's completely false. Content should (in most cases) always be written with a human reader in mind. Writing for robots make no sense, so what Google's AI can or cannot do is completely irrelevant.

    Any human reader with a good grasp of the language the article is written in can easily tell the difference between spun garbage and high quality articles, which is why there's such a demand for quality articles.

    And FYI - even in Google's eyes quality (not just unique) content is important. Most SEO-ers agree (and I believe it's been publicly stated by Google) that a site's bounce rate/time on site is taken into consideration in Google's algorithm. Since most people would leave a site more or less instantly if the content is poor, and stay longer if they're interested in the article, paying for higher quality content can affect how Google views your site.
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    After awhile, it really does become easier to write something that quick. I can turn out a great article in that time period. Once you know what people what/need, it's smooth sailing from there. Best of luck man.

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    If your Englishis not good,not write, if you canwriteuniquearticles,I canpurchaseyourarticleto2000words$ 10.

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    Lots of great suggestions here, everyone. Awesome sharing.

    To the OP:

    Come join us at Constant Content, Text Broker or SkyWord. I'm sure at least one of those will accept someone from across the pond as a writer. It would just be a temporary fix till you get your own site up, but the money can be good.

    In the same vein, I would suggest staying far, far away from content mills like Demand Studios. Them especially.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dcuthbert View Post
    Seriously? There's a common misconception that your content should be written with search engines in mind - that's completely false. Content should (in most cases) always be written with a human reader in mind. Writing for robots make no sense, so what Google's AI can or cannot do is completely irrelevant.
    Yes, seriously. I don't know what you think you just read, but my primary point is that people don't pay enough for articles to make it economically feasible for a gifted writer to make a living, and that their best opportunity for financial success is to write for their own sites, or run the business of article writing as a real business, and sell a value-added service which includes trust, durability/longevity, customer service, etc... instead of relying on half-assed work from shitty sites like Fiverr.

    Do you disagree with that? Sounds like common sense to me, and I think that those writers that have the ability to understand what I've written ought to implement my suggestions instead of reducing their talent down to the level of a human spin machine, trying to grind-out articles for $5.00 an hour. Tomato-pickers make more than that, and they don't even have to be literate.

    And as for "misconceptions", the big one is that it's an either/or proposition. One writes for both human readers AND search engines. You don't cater to the one while ignoring the other. But that's completely secondary, and is actually off-topic. The thread is about trying to figure out write articles for $5.00 an hour. My point is that there are better opportunities, and people that have the ability to take advantage of them ought not to focus on trying to improve upon a method of income generation that is doomed to failure.
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    I think one of the biggest things you can take away from this is don't try to compete with garbage article writers. Good writers get paid well if they find the right people.
    - Consider looking for a full time writing gig at an SEO firm. White hat SEO companies value good content
    - Don't try to compete on price. Good articles are worth more than the $1-3 garbage that gets written. That junk is for blog networks, not main pages.
    - If you are going to compete on price, spin your articles and have an article database. You seem well organized, so you should have no problem generating several "unique" articles from one original. Then you can just sell the various spun versions rather than writing a brand new one each time. Say the spinning adds an extra 15 min to your process, but you get 10 articles out of it instead of 1. Now you're at 10 articles/2 hrs or 5 articles per hour (your goal). Obviously, you can't sell them all at once, but you can build a solid database. In fact, you could probably go back and spin articles you've already written to generate a monster database. If someone is paying less than $1 per 100 words, they should know they aren't getting top quality/100% unique content.
    - Start building Adsense sites. Seriously, in your downtime, just start writing. It might be a while before you start seeing anything, but it'll eventually come. I have a couple of adsense sites that i haven't touched in literally 18 months that pull $30/month each. It isn't a lot by itself, but 10-20 of them and that number starts to grow.

    I also PMed you about some work.

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    15mins for 500words? don't expect such content to pass copyscape

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    I think one of the biggest things you can take away from this is don't try to compete with garbage article writers. Good writers get paid well if they find the right people.
    Can you post a link supporting this? Define "paid well". My minimum is $20.00/hour. Being paid "well" looks more like $40.00/hour. Well-paid people do not worry about paying for what I would call the "middle class basics", i.e. housing, electricity, transportation, cable TV, internet, groceries, insurance, etc... If your current income is such that you have to carefully strategize how to make your income cover these basics each and every month, you are not "well paid", you are "barely making it".

    I am always highly suspicious of what people that hire other people think is "fair", "adequate" or "well paid". They use dumb-downed and stupified definitions of these words in order to persuade the ignorant and impressionable to accept what they are being given instead of pursuing what they might command, if only they understood their own value and how to take maximum advantage of it.

    So that's the challenge. I'm "throwing down the gauntlet". Let's see some verifiable evidence that it's possible to be "well paid" writing articles being used as original content on someone else's web-site. Doing someone's Doctoral thesis does not count. I'm talking about some kind of upgrade from basic article writing that is paying a premium rate, so that someone that is doing this writing could reasonably be described as "well paid", and using a non-US countries economy to make the argument that $5.00/hour is "well paid" is an automatic fail. The OP is in the US, and US economics and conditions apply.
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    Can you post a link supporting this? Define "paid well". My minimum is $20.00/hour. Being paid "well" looks more like $40.00/hour. Well-paid people do not worry about paying for what I would call the "middle class basics", i.e. housing, electricity, transportation, cable TV, internet, groceries, insurance, etc... If your current income is such that you have to carefully strategize how to make your income cover these basics each and every month, you are not "well paid", you are "barely making it".

    I am always highly suspicious of what people that hire other people think is "fair", "adequate" or "well paid". They use dumb-downed and stupified definitions of these words in order to persuade the ignorant and impressionable to accept what they are being given instead of pursuing what they might command, if only they understood their own value and how to take maximum advantage of it.

    So that's the challenge. I'm "throwing down the gauntlet". Let's see some verifiable evidence that it's possible to be "well paid" writing articles being used as original content on someone else's web-site. Doing someone's Doctoral thesis does not count. I'm talking about some kind of upgrade from basic article writing that is paying a premium rate, so that someone that is doing this writing could reasonably be described as "well paid", and using a non-US countries economy to make the argument that $5.00/hour is "well paid" is an automatic fail. The OP is in the US, and US economics and conditions apply.
    You are correct, paid well is relative. Your "basics" are also relative. If you are married with 2 kids, your "basics" are much significantly more money than than a bachelor living in a 1 or 2 BR apartment. Housing is different, insurance is higher (Health, auto, and home/renters), even groceries are different. In once case, $40k/yr would be plenty whereas the other, $40k would be very tight.

    That said, the median household income in the US is $45k year. Somewhere between $35k/yr and $55k/yr the median number of income earners jumps from 1 to 2. That would indicate a couple making $22.5k each which is not uncommon. In fact, the OP's goal is to make $10/hr which is roughly $20k/year (40hrs/week for 50wks/yr @ $10/hr = $20k). Based on this payscale (http://www.onwardsearch.com/SEO-Salary/), any of the SEO/Web Copywriting salary ranges are better than $10/hr freelance. Considering the Median Household income in the US and the OP's stated income goal, a full time writer position would be "paid well." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Househo..._United_States)

    I don't know that I full agree with your $40/hr being "well paid." Most would consider that to be good to very good pay... 40hrs/wk for 50wk/yr @ $40/hr is $80,000. Many Lawyers start at under $70k/year. In fact, the highest fifth in income (aka top 20%) avg $88k, but that is with 2 incomes (back down to $44k/yr per person). The top 5% is $157k w/2 incomes or just under $80k/yr per person.

    When I think of well paid, I don't think top5% of all income earners, I think average or slightly above average. While many of us make far better income than the average household, sometimes it is important to keep things in perspective.

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    Nice opinion on Home Economics, but where is the link supporting the idea that it's possible to be "well paid" doing "premium" articles?
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    Hey man, I'm do a ton of copywriting work, and I've found myself in a tight time frame every now and then...here's what I do:

    1) Gather enough info to write whatever you need to write
    2) Write out AIDA on your page. It sands for Attention, Interest, Desire, Action
    3) In that order, write out your article, so that it captures their reader's attention, get's them interested, makes them want what you've got, and then tells them what to do to get it.

    Since you've got the info you need and a solid and proven method to write it out, writers block is eliminated and you can pump out what you need as fast as you need it.

    That said, 15 minutes is probably gonna give you a pretty crappy result unless you've got some serious inspiration (when the words force themselves out of you and you have no choice, and they just come out perfectly). If you cool with putting crappy articles out there (I wouldn't be), then do your thing...but if you want quality, give yourself some more time.

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    Can you post a link supporting this? Define "paid well". My minimum is $20.00/hour. Being paid "well" looks more like $40.00/hour. Well-paid people do not worry about paying for what I would call the "middle class basics", i.e. housing, electricity, transportation, cable TV, internet, groceries, insurance, etc... If your current income is such that you have to carefully strategize how to make your income cover these basics each and every month, you are not "well paid", you are "barely making it".

    I am always highly suspicious of what people that hire other people think is "fair", "adequate" or "well paid". They use dumb-downed and stupified definitions of these words in order to persuade the ignorant and impressionable to accept what they are being given instead of pursuing what they might command, if only they understood their own value and how to take maximum advantage of it.

    So that's the challenge. I'm "throwing down the gauntlet". Let's see some verifiable evidence that it's possible to be "well paid" writing articles being used as original content on someone else's web-site. Doing someone's Doctoral thesis does not count. I'm talking about some kind of upgrade from basic article writing that is paying a premium rate, so that someone that is doing this writing could reasonably be described as "well paid", and using a non-US countries economy to make the argument that $5.00/hour is "well paid" is an automatic fail. The OP is in the US, and US economics and conditions apply.
    No idea how you would verify it, but I have had several clients pay $25 for 500 word articles which take 30 minutes to write, therefore my rate is over your $40/hr threshold. My day job pays approx $30/hr, so anything more than this is well paid in my opinion.

    $25 for a 500 word article is not exactly unusual, some clients pay far more than this for more technical writing, although these generally require research and will therefore take longer, bringing down the hourly rate. However, some straightforward articles sell for far more than $25.

    I don't know why you want this point proven with "verifiable evidence" - it's not exactly some hidden secret or even a matter of opinion, it is a fact that writers charge these kind of rates all the time.

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    writing articles is definitely the hardest part of my seo marketing

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    $25 for a 500 word article is not exactly unusual, some clients pay far more than this for more technical writing, although these generally require research and will therefore take longer, bringing down the hourly rate. However, some straightforward articles sell for far more than $25.
    Well, then let's see a 500 word article that took 30 minutes to write that someone paid $25.00 for. Why would they pay $25.00 for a 30 minute, 500-word article when they could buy a 30 minute, 500 word article for $5.00?

    Anyone advertising 500 word articles for $25.00? Anywhere? Anywhere on the planet? If there's a demand for this, there ought to be a site somewhere selling it.

    Where's the site?
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    i heard that some writers use a combination of the best spinner and article marketing wizard to make articles very quick, maybe just 15-20 mins. but i really like a true and honest writing service
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    Well, then let's see a 500 word article that took 30 minutes to write that someone paid $25.00 for. Why would they pay $25.00 for a 30 minute, 500-word article when they could buy a 30 minute, 500 word article for $5.00?
    Hmmm trying to figure out if you're just trolling. I'll base my answer on your questions being serious, but I suspect you are simply a troll.

    With the exception of freelancing sites which cover a larger base of work than just writing, I haven't come across any online writing jobs which are paid by the hour - they are all paid by a combination of the number of words and the quality of the writing.

    Why would someone buy the $25 article rather than the $5 article in your example? Simple - it's far better quality.

    The vast majority of $5 writers have very poor writing skills. Most $5 articles have loads of spelling and/or grammar issues, and those which don't are usually so boring to read that they're useless for human visitors. $25 articles attract the reader's attention and are a far more enjoyable read.

    Anyone advertising 500 word articles for $25.00? Anywhere? Anywhere on the planet? If there's a demand for this, there ought to be a site somewhere selling it.

    Where's the site?
    Constant Content, Google it.

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    Constant Content, Google it.
    Why would I put effort into supporting your point? The OP wants to know how to make a living selling articles. I'm saying he's not going to do it at $5.00 and article, and no-one pays the "premium" rate that everyone always talks about. Let's see the market for the premium rate articles. Post a link. I could probably find someone willing to pay $25.00 for an article that I wrote, if I marketed it hard enough and waited around.

    But that doesn't mean you can make a living doing it. Not in the US. And I have yet to see anyone in this thread offering any evidence that it's possible to do it.
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