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    Default THIRD try to find writer. C'mon, guys.

    Third try. If you can't read and understand this ad, DO NOT ANSWER.

    Looking for writer for approximately 15 reviews, about 500 words apiece. Long term gig if things work well.

    MUST BE NATIVE ENGLISH SPEAKER. THAT MEANS YOU ARE AMERICAN, CANADIAN, BRITISH OR AUSTRALIAN (ALSO N.Z., ETC. - BUT YOU GET THE IDEA).
    I will no longer even respond to ESL people from Phillipines, India, etc. - or to outsource companies.

    And if you take the gig but can't bother to actually do it for more than a month - please expect to see an entry on the shit list.

    I just want to find a responsible, competent person who wants to make money by writing good reviews and articles. Too much to ask?

    Please PM with samples/rates/time frame. Thanks.
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    Default Re: THIRD try to find writer. C'mon, guys.

    I know this is not what you're looking for but you might want to try https://www.odesk.com/. I've found some awesome writers there. Not everyone here is so hard up for cash that they will drop their projects to write, especially people in English speaking countries.

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    Default Re: THIRD try to find writer. C'mon, guys.

    Odesk is the way to go dude. Super cheap and good work. Only problem is you might have a difficult time finding somebody American to apply. Just keep reposting the job until you get somebody.

    You can also look through the contractors on there and filter for US only. And then try to recruit that way.

    This is a much better option than bitching on a message board.

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    Default Re: THIRD try to find writer. C'mon, guys.

    I'm trying to set my writer friend (American) up with some writing gigs. If nothing else, his content will have character (he's a fiction writer). He's intelligent though, so I'm sure he can write about anything that he can research on google. I've worked with him a bit on the concepts of SEO and keyword density. I can have him write an example article based on your specifications.

    His fees are $10 for a 500+ word article that requires research (in this case, understanding the product you want reviewed). If the keyword is more generic, or you need multiple articles on the same subject, the fee is $8 for a $500+ word article.

    PM me if this is within your budget.

    I'm also in the process of setting up a BST thread on here for his services, plus the option for some SEO linkbuiding services (submit spun article to web2.0 blogs, directories, etc), if any of that interests you as well.
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    Default Re: THIRD try to find writer. C'mon, guys.

    Can you PM me with the niche you are looking to have articles/reviews written for?

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    Default Re: THIRD try to find writer. C'mon, guys.

    Quote Originally Posted by reallife View Post
    Third try. If you can't read and understand this ad, DO NOT ANSWER.

    Looking for writer for approximately 15 reviews, about 500 words apiece. Long term gig if things work well.

    MUST BE NATIVE ENGLISH SPEAKER. THAT MEANS YOU ARE AMERICAN, CANADIAN, BRITISH OR AUSTRALIAN (ALSO N.Z., ETC. - BUT YOU GET THE IDEA).
    I will no longer even respond to ESL people from Phillipines, India, etc. - or to outsource companies.
    And how much are you willing to pay for a piece?

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    Default Re: THIRD try to find writer. C'mon, guys.

    Quote Originally Posted by woodyb23 View Post
    Odesk is the way to go dude. Super cheap and good work. Only problem is you might have a difficult time finding somebody American to apply. Just keep reposting the job until you get somebody.

    You can also look through the contractors on there and filter for US only. And then try to recruit that way.

    This is a much better option than bitching on a message board.
    That's why I hadn't gone to odesk, my impression from poking around the various freelancing sites (and trying one or two) was that native English speakers were pretty much non-existent there.

    And my goal here wasn't bitching - it was mainly scaring away the people who say "Well, I don't fit what he's looking for, but I'll give it a shot anyway." My experience over the years is that otherwise, you get buried in emails/PMs from outsourcing companies and individuals who are just "taking a chance."

    (Well, OK, I *was* bitching a little lol, but only because a guy who was gung-ho for the job and took half-payment within minutes of accepting the job, is now feeding me three articles a week and cavalierly telling me "Sorry, I had to write an e-book.")

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    Quote Originally Posted by bk071 View Post
    And how much are you willing to pay for a piece?
    All depends on the quality of the samples and the quoted price. If you're asking me if I'm trying to get away with paying $2.50 an article, the answer is no.

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    Default Re: THIRD try to find writer. C'mon, guys.

    A good reputation Fiverr maybe? Or one of the fiverr clones for better quality

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    Default Re: THIRD try to find writer. C'mon, guys.

    Wow at least now I know that people actually value native speakers. With such low rates being offered for articles like places on Odesk I assumed that people just sort of put up with it.

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    Default Re: THIRD try to find writer. C'mon, guys.

    Quote Originally Posted by GiftGuru View Post
    A good reputation Fiverr maybe? Or one of the fiverr clones for better quality
    Yeah, I thought about that, but I'm really looking for someone to write long-term for me, and most of the fiverr people I've dealt with are more about the one-time hits. I figured trying to sort through fiverr people would be even more difficult than odesk or other outsourcer sites - and that someone looking for a long-term gig would be more likely to be looking here (or somewhere similar).

    I'll give it a little while here to see what (if anything) comes up, and then try another avenue. Thanks for the help.

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    Default Re: THIRD try to find writer. C'mon, guys.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tamarind View Post
    Wow at least now I know that people actually value native speakers. With such low rates being offered for articles like places on Odesk I assumed that people just sort of put up with it.
    As a one-time professional writer and teacher, I value good writing - and can't imagine purchasing a product after reading a review written in pidgin English. On the other hand, I also understand and appreciate the value of a dirt-cheap article that's being used on a web 2.0 site or article directory for SEO purposes.

    It just so happens that these articles will be placed on sites where I'm trying to sell product --- so the quality is important (at least to me lol).

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    Default Re: THIRD try to find writer. C'mon, guys.

    I know your frustrated man but thats on par for hiring on a message board. Everyone has been burned with bad service at least once.

    But anyways, I checked odesk and their are 120 contractors working for under 10 an hour. Contact them directly with work.Test them to see if they can meet your workload and then slowly give them more work. It is better to work with smaller hours or jobs because people make it look like they are working when they are not.

    I would set a bar and test the waters. Maybe 1500 words an hour.

    Good luck with your search. Always tough finding good employees.

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    Default Re: THIRD try to find writer. C'mon, guys.

    I have gotten some great native english speaking writers from odesk.
    Just put that into your description - that you only want native-english speaking workers from english-speaking countries.

    Here (as an example) is a list of odesk writers who have been logged into odesk in the last 2 weeks (in other words, they are still active), they all have 4-5 star ratings and are located in the USA or Canada:
    https://www.odesk.com/contractors/wr...=5-stars&rdy=1

    Same list as previous, but limited to only those who want less than $10 per hour:
    https://www.odesk.com/contractors/wr...min=Min&max=10

    otherwise look for the writer's forums (there are several, where they are all always complaining about how they can't find any work)

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    Default Re: THIRD try to find writer. C'mon, guys.

    I have a Canadian writer she is good period! Pm me and I can hook u up. She is not cheap though 10-15 cents per word.

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    Default Re: THIRD try to find writer. C'mon, guys.

    Forget mainstream platforms. It's like looking for delicacies in a supermarket. The country of origin does not really matter btw. If someone is good, they won't waste time with portals feeding on dumping. I was recently checking on the orwellian claims about Singapore... the language skills of participating people from Asia was amazingly good.

    Great articles are just too expensive for plain SEO but when you are selling stuff like you plan to, $15 to $20 pieces will do wonders. Post jobs on colleges, most have free online boards just for that. Contact teachers, blog authors, wikipedia contributors. In business, you only place a job listing when you are desperate, have exhausted any other active way to find someone suitable.

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    Default Re: THIRD try to find writer. C'mon, guys.

    For good article writing, I definitely would recommend a higher end clone like Zeerk or MyCheapJobs
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    Default Re: THIRD try to find writer. C'mon, guys.

    I have no problem writing a few articles at a rate of 3.50-4 a piece x 5 articles as a test.

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    Default Re: THIRD try to find writer. C'mon, guys.

    i am looking for good individual article writers or writing teams to work long term with us. my aol email :cherrybb04

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    Default Re: THIRD try to find writer. C'mon, guys.

    Hi,

    I'm Australian and can work long term for you if you would like. I've also got an editor working for me who ensures that no mistakes go through.

    For 500 words I charge up to $10 but if you order 15 at a time I can do it for $7.50 per 500 words, with a turn around time of about 3days (factoring in time zone difference).

    Let me know if this is something you would like, and I can send through some samples.

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    Default Re: THIRD try to find writer. C'mon, guys.

    Thanks everyone.
    I have several possibilities, and will contact others who've responded here, if I'm still looking after today or tomorrow.

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    Default Re: THIRD try to find writer. C'mon, guys.

    Well... lots of discussions here about the ethics of writers. Yeah... for sure lots of guys are there who are just giving it a try and that goes against the real writers struggling for attractive compensation on behalf of their hard work creating well researched and unique content on given topics.

    You may find me a newbie here without any feedback or reputation but I have done well on DP and anyone can check out the feedback of my clients regarding the writing assignments I have completed so far. If anyone here needs excellent quality written articles PM me. I offer content replacement in case you don't like the write ups and can work approx 16 hrs if there is good and consistent compensation.

    What I want to say here that not all non-natives are the same. Just like each native can't produce quality content! But it's true that approx 90% of non-native are jut selling their crappy writing services for a few bucks that is a big obstacle before the good writers from non-native countries.

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    Default Re: THIRD try to find writer. C'mon, guys.

    Just my 2 cents- did you see in service for sale section uniquecontentfactory.com? They advertise yourself as high quality native writers .

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    Default Re: THIRD try to find writer. C'mon, guys.

    Quote Originally Posted by SEO Content Demon View Post
    Well... lots of discussions here about the ethics of writers. Yeah... for sure lots of guys are there who are just giving it a try and that goes against the real writers struggling for attractive compensation on behalf of their hard work creating well researched and unique content on given topics.

    You may find me a newbie here without any feedback or reputation but I have done well on DP and anyone can check out the feedback of my clients regarding the writing assignments I have completed so far. If anyone here needs excellent quality written articles PM me. I offer content replacement in case you don't like the write ups and can work approx 16 hrs if there is good and consistent compensation.

    What I want to say here that not all non-natives are the same. Just like each native can't produce quality content! But it's true that approx 90% of non-native are jut selling their crappy writing services for a few bucks that is a big obstacle before the good writers from non-native countries.
    There's no doubt in my mind that, here and there, you could find a non-native speaker who could write in American or British idiom. But it would be just that, here and there. And sifting through all the chaff just isn't worth it - not fair, but true.

    Just FYI, though, when you are looking for clients, and claiming top-notch native skills, you probably should clean up a sentence like this one:

    << But it's true that approx 90% of non-native are jut selling their crappy writing services for a few bucks that is a big obstacle before the good writers from non-native countries. >>

    As a former professional writer and college professor, I wouldn't want to have to diagram that sentence - I also wouldn't want to compare it to a similar sentence written by a strong native writer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vector_hh View Post
    Just my 2 cents- did you see in service for sale section uniquecontentfactory.com? They advertise yourself as high quality native writers .
    No - thanks for pointing it out. If I don't end up finding someone among the folks who've responded, I'll take a look at them.

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    Default Re: THIRD try to find writer. C'mon, guys.

    Other thing i did once- do you know examiner.com- reputable site with big ammount of usa traffic and their own writers team, go there- find article your niche that you like then connect with a writer who added this article/review- ussually they have email or IM to connect. I ordered mine for $10 but sure you can drop price for long time terms
    Good luck

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    We need one of these walls on the border to keep Mexicans from coming into America.

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    Default Re: THIRD try to find writer. C'mon, guys.

    If you are still looking for someone, we have a dedicated team of writers that we use, and we only charge $0.60 per 100 words. You can reach me using my gmail addy, yourmarketwriter at gmail . c.o.m

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    Default Re: THIRD try to find writer. C'mon, guys.

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    We need one of these walls on the border to keep Mexicans from coming into America.
    I think you meant to post this on www.Immigration.com
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    Quote Originally Posted by vector_hh View Post
    Just my 2 cents- did you see in service for sale section uniquecontentfactory.com? They advertise yourself as high quality native writers .
    I would stay away from these guys. They are charging .03 a word and their samples look horrible (for that price anyway).
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    Default Re: THIRD try to find writer. C'mon, guys.

    reallife,
    I don't know if you are still looking for a writer, but if you are then I'd like to offer my help. I completely understand what you are asking, and actually had a good laugh when I read your post. As someone who has been a long time lurker, I actually find it hilarious that almost every writing service offered is by a non native speaker. Most of these "writers" have skills equivalent to someone entering high school if even that.

    I'd be more than happy to do a practice run on a topic of your choosing so you could gauge my skills.Anyways, I can't yet send messages since I don't have the required post count so if you do feel the need to find someone else to write please don't hesitate to send me a message. I'd be more than happy to communicate via email.

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    Default Re: THIRD try to find writer. C'mon, guys.

    Go to www.odesk.com I've gotten a native English speaker/writer for .01 a word for original content!

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    Default Re: THIRD try to find writer. C'mon, guys.

    Thanks again to everyone who responded - I'm still waiting for one more sample article and then will decide whether to go with one of the folks I've spoken with, or to keep looking.

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    Default Re: THIRD try to find writer. C'mon, guys.

    I've done loads of articles in my time online, i usually charge around the $10 per 500 word article mark when doing content for other people.

    If you want someone with good English spelling and grammar, expect to pay more for the quality of work.

    If you are not too bothered then paying less for lower quality work and editing the content slightly yourself, maybe the best option.
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    Default Re: THIRD try to find writer. C'mon, guys.

    Quote Originally Posted by reallife View Post
    As a one-time professional writer and teacher, I value good writing - and can't imagine purchasing a product after reading a review written in pidgin English. On the other hand, I also understand and appreciate the value of a dirt-cheap article that's being used on a web 2.0 site or article directory for SEO purposes.

    It just so happens that these articles will be placed on sites where I'm trying to sell product --- so the quality is important (at least to me lol).
    I forgot all about this thread. Well, if you still need a writer contact me, I can't pm yet. I am currently getting my doctorate in Linguistics so my writing level is high (we are expected to write for academic journals). Of course, I will be able to "dumb it down" to your needs.

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    Default Re: THIRD try to find writer. C'mon, guys.

    D'oh. I haven't been on BHW long enough to PM you; but I would love if you gave me a chance to write reviews for you! I will definitely come back when I can PM.

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    Default Re: THIRD try to find writer. C'mon, guys.

    Odesk so far for writers with one exception has been horrible for me. awful english, than I even point out mistakes and they insist thats how it needs to be lol. I am sure you will find some but nothing around $1-2/words will be easy to find and you will end up with awful writers. Check there scores, they try to trick you :

    - check spelling scores - often you see 80-9x% ...

    but then check the basic english skill test and you will get the point. when actually using the language and you cannot find the answer by copy and paste in google they suck..

    so have them give you a sample because a lot of them wont even bother to write an awesome article for that and you can already see they suck. if the sample is good have thme write 200 words or so on something random to see if they are still good. last but not least write on skype. if it takes them long to answer , chances are they use google translate. good luck

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    Default Re: THIRD try to find writer. C'mon, guys.

    Are you still in the market for writers? If yes, I may be able to help you. I run an Article Writing Service with over a 100 part time American college student writers. I am waiting to hit a 100 posts before we can announce our service here on BHW. We're getting some rave reviews on BHT, Wicked Fire and other forums under the same name.

    The rate I can do for bulk articles is $1.40/100 words. It's $1.60 per word for an order of less than 25,000 words. This is the best bulk rate I offer any of my clients regardless of quantity and frequency. My most regular clients order over 600 articles a month from my writers at this rate. They like us because of our bandwidth to do big numbers without sacrificing on Quality.

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    I forgot all about this thread. Well, if you still need a writer contact me, I can't pm yet. I am currently getting my doctorate in Linguistics so my writing level is high (we are expected to write for academic journals). Of course, I will be able to "dumb it down" to your needs.
    Wow! Great sales pitch!

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    Odesk so far for writers with one exception has been horrible for me. awful english, than I even point out mistakes and they insist thats how it needs to be lol. I am sure you will find some but nothing around $1-2/words will be easy to find and you will end up with awful writers. Check there scores, they try to trick you :

    - check spelling scores - often you see 80-9x% ...

    but then check the basic english skill test and you will get the point. when actually using the language and you cannot find the answer by copy and paste in google they suck..

    so have them give you a sample because a lot of them wont even bother to write an awesome article for that and you can already see they suck. if the sample is good have thme write 200 words or so on something random to see if they are still good. last but not least write on skype. if it takes them long to answer , chances are they use google translate. good luck
    Thanks. To be honest, I wouldn't go to somewhere like Odesk for writers, unless I was truly desperate. I freak out when I'm at a grocery store and a sign says "Potato's - 99 cents a pound" -- there's no way I would be able to deal with most of the articles that would come out of there (or fiverr, for a previous poster).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamarind View Post
    I forgot all about this thread. Well, if you still need a writer contact me, I can't pm yet. I am currently getting my doctorate in Linguistics so my writing level is high (we are expected to write for academic journals). Of course, I will be able to "dumb it down" to your needs.
    Gosh, wouldn't want you to have to dumb things down.

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    http://www.articleauthors.net has been around forever

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    Other thing i did once- do you know examiner.com- reputable site with big ammount of usa traffic and their own writers team, go there- find article your niche that you like then connect with a writer who added this article/review- ussually they have email or IM to connect. I ordered mine for $10 but sure you can drop price for long time terms
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    Interesting thought. Thanks.

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