i'm not sure about when will AC stop paying for articles and shut its doors in front of writers...ofcourse i'm asking this question as i feel that AC nowadays is starting to decrease its payouts and decrease the number of accepted articles...i'd like AC experts here at bhw to share their experience about this question


josh

I will bet that AC's upfront model will eventually change to a strictly PPV one and they will start sharing adsense revenue 50-50 or something.

If they do, then they will collapse. Simply put. You don't see them on the first page of google, what are they expecting? to not pay you upfront? that will be the fall of AC

yeah...if you think they will switch to ppv without upfronts...the question is: when will that happens? based on your expectations

They're ppv is already low, so the upfronts is keeping all of the good writers from leaving AC for another place. They may be paying low upfronts right now, eventually they'll notice a decrease in writers considering the decreased payments.
I think AC is blind in that they think they can keep the GOOD writers and pay LOW amounts for each article. I noticed people complaining as well, and my upfronts have decreased.
Although I will still stay with AC only for the short term....
another point....
Do you know how much money they make from each article that you submit?
100s maybe even thousands of percent more then they paid you for it.
So to tell you my opinion, I don't think they will get rid of it, unless they are purposely drawing out their failure and they purposely want to lose all of their investments.
There are around 2 million articles on AC, let's take an average of about $3.00(from previous payments)
That's around $6 milllion, not to mention website maintenance, servers, article EDITORS specifically, good employee(article writers) relations
Why would they purposely drop their investment of almost $10 million?
Trust me, they will not do this.
And I recommend you start writing for your own micro websites and you will see better residual, long term income rather than sacrificing your artwork(articles) to the greedy bastards at AC.
DOn't worry, but yet again, don't depend on AC, only use it for short term cash, not a long term cash flow.

Good luck.

AC is kind of lame, I submitted a new article there 2 days ago, got rejected for some bs reason saying we cannot promote traffic exchanges/link sharing in the article citation link. The link I had in there had absolutely nothing to do with that in the least, shit it was for an article directory I personally own and am working on promoting right now - just like AC is an article directory hehe. Instead of try to figure out why they would do that, I just deleted the article and submitted to ezine.

Originally Posted by josh3101367

i'm not sure about when will AC stop paying for articles and shut its doors in front of writers...ofcourse i'm asking this question as i feel that AC nowadays is starting to decrease its payouts and decrease the number of accepted articles...i'd like AC experts here at bhw to share their experience about this question


josh

I'm shooting for Dec 21, 2012 as their shutdown date.

Originally Posted by j0b0123

AC is kind of lame, I submitted a new article there 2 days ago, got rejected for some bs reason saying we cannot promote traffic exchanges/link sharing in the article citation link. The link I had in there had absolutely nothing to do with that in the least, shit it was for an article directory I personally own and am working on promoting right now - just like AC is an article directory hehe. Instead of try to figure out why they would do that, I just deleted the article and submitted to ezine.

j0b0123, I looked at your article directory. Very nice. Where did you get all those articles? Are they all unique content for just your site?

Imo as long as they are making good money they will maintain.

it's funny how a good response get's 1 thanks, and a stupid reply gets 2...
don't you just love psychology....

Originally Posted by danizdeman

it's funny how a good response get's 1 thanks, and a stupid reply gets 2...
don't you just love psychology....

Come one, don't hate

Associated Content is a joke. It's a place to get started but not to continue for a long time. I went through Red's technique only because I had to teach someone how to earn money from AC and use the money for hosting/other things.

AC is simply a middle man for the most part. Earning $30 from a partner call is good on AC however, most freelance writers earn more than that. AC simply takes a cut from your payment.

Take, for example, AC writer, Lyn. She is all excited that her article was on CNN. Her article:

Code:

http://www.cnn.com/2010/LIVING/personal/02/08/tf.ideal.time.to.marry/

Looking at the article, it's not bad. Now checking out "The Frisky" website I noticed that she could have contacted them directly if she wanted to.

Code:

http://www.thefrisky.com/page/submissions/?TrackID=navbt

It does make me wonder how much she really got from AC vs what she could have earned from contacting "The Frisky" herself. How did AC split the earnings? 50-50, 70-30????

Of course, AC is a more "lazy" method for writers who don't want to contact sites, afraid to, or don't know how to approach companies with their articles.

***Oh while I'm on the subject of CNN: If you haven't done so, you should sign up at their ireport site. Even though CNN does not offer payment, the traffic from submitting an article there is pretty damn good. I submitted a few well written articles with pictures, and put "This article was written by [name] of [url].com" and got over 1k viewers on my blog the very same day and my articles continue to bring in visitors to my blogs. Please don't spam their site with crappy stuff. This is a good thing and I'm hoping to keep it good. Submit good articles and you'll get great traffic.

Ok back to AC:

AC's top writers all claim that AC gives them exposure that blogs wouldn't give and earnings that blogs don't make them, yadda, yadda, yadda. It's all lies they tell themselves.

I mentioned before, I never had a 9 to 5 job and I don't want one now. I'm doing exactly what I enjoy doing: Writing.

And earning a damn good living.

On average, you should earn about $20-30 on 1000 views of your article through pure adsense. AC pays you $1.50, so they make more than 10 times your earnings. And the best upfront most people get are about $3 bucks. You still don't even come close to their revenue which goes on forever.

Originally Posted by tygrus

On average, you should earn about $20-30 on 1000 views of your article through pure adsense. AC pays you $1.50, so they make more than 10 times your earnings. And the best upfront most people get are about $3 bucks. You still don't even come close to their revenue which goes on forever.

IMO, their page view amount is what really shot them in the foot as far as International writers are concern.

$1-$2 per 1000 page view is near enough to slave labor which is why many international writers join but give up or won't touch AC with a ten foot pole.

Originally Posted by Millygirl

IMO, their page view amount is what really shot them in the foot as far as International writers are concern.

$1-$2 per 1000 page view is near enough to slave labor which is why many international writers join but give up or won't touch AC with a ten foot pole.

Millygirl, I am quite surprised by your take on AC. I thought you were one of devoted converts to AC here on BHW.

Originally Posted by tygrus

Millygirl, I am quite surprised by your take on AC. I thought you were one of devoted converts to AC here on BHW.

OMG, no Tygrus. I have a love/hate relationship with all content sites. I'm hopelessly devoted to myself.

IMO, AC is a great concept for beginner and intermediate writers. They can learn SEO and other stuff but when they have mastered the arts of online writing, it is time for them to move on.

If you really want to be surprise: I believe AC is ran by idiots who have since lost touch with the online community.

My HUGE issue with AC is how they are running things.

Giving Associated Content a new look is like pouring fresh milk and sour milk into a pretty glass hoping the drinker won't notice the taste.

It's quite annoying to have well written articles mixed in with poorly written ones.

I believe the site owner should turn AC into an adsense sharing revenue site and invite everyone (international and American writers) to sign up and earn. This way AC would continue to earn money from the ads but on an international stage (I know the lost of upfront payment would be bad for some writers).

They should create a new, more professional looking website, move their advance/professional writers to the new site, and pay them a decent wage. A stricter sign up policy for new writers to the new site. This way they can build a more reliable content library.

I could go on and on but as anyone would point out, I don't know the first thing about running a multimillion dollar company. It's all in the numbers (traffic, writers, clicks, ads, advertisers, etc.) and the cost of running two sites (paying upfront and page view to one group and adsense sharing to the other) may not be profitable.

So I just keep my head down, whine a lot, write a lot and earn a lot.

i got burned out w/AC after about 2 weeks of article writing/rewriting...

i figure for the amount i was paying my rewriters, i could just put the articles on my own blog/site and make more money

Originally Posted by Millygirl

Associated Content is a joke. It's a place to get started but not to continue for a long time. I went through Red's technique only because I had to teach someone how to earn money from AC and use the money for hosting/other things.

AC is simply a middle man for the most part. Earning $30 from a partner call is good on AC however, most freelance writers earn more than that. AC simply takes a cut from your payment.

Take, for example, AC writer, Lyn. She is all excited that her article was on CNN. Her article:

Code:

http://www.cnn.com/2010/LIVING/personal/02/08/tf.ideal.time.to.marry/

Looking at the article, it's not bad. Now checking out "The Frisky" website I noticed that she could have contacted them directly if she wanted to.

Code:

http://www.thefrisky.com/page/submissions/?TrackID=navbt

It does make me wonder how much she really got from AC vs what she could have earned from contacting "The Frisky" herself. How did AC split the earnings? 50-50, 70-30????

Of course, AC is a more "lazy" method for writers who don't want to contact sites, afraid to, or don't know how to approach companies with their articles.

***Oh while I'm on the subject of CNN: If you haven't done so, you should sign up at their ireport site. Even though CNN does not offer payment, the traffic from submitting an article there is pretty damn good. I submitted a few well written articles with pictures, and put "This article was written by [name] of [url].com" and got over 1k viewers on my blog the very same day and my articles continue to bring in visitors to my blogs. Please don't spam their site with crappy stuff. This is a good thing and I'm hoping to keep it good. Submit good articles and you'll get great traffic.

Ok back to AC:

AC's top writers all claim that AC gives them exposure that blogs wouldn't give and earnings that blogs don't make them, yadda, yadda, yadda. It's all lies they tell themselves.

I mentioned before, I never had a 9 to 5 job and I don't want one now. I'm doing exactly what I enjoy doing: Writing.

And earning a damn good living.

yes, AC gets stingy even with upfront pay. They are monitoring how much pay they are earning from the articles they paid upfront account. If they dont make much amount then start rejecting with higher frequency.

But i feel for the AC to keep breathing among others they have no choice but to pay those cheeky amount which mostly 3 world country writers can write.

According to me content has great future & fresh content has good money if used properly.

Payouts sure have decreased over the years...I remember a few years ago when the upfront payments were around $6-$7 for even medicore articles...

However...the ppv payment has been increased over the years...Simply because AC is getting WAY more traffic...

They will prob just continue to lower their upfront payment

I dunno content really pays a lot.... especially in the long run. For instance, I have well over 800 articles submitted to ezinearticles.... I have made well over $7000 from those articles in only adsense earnings, and even with super conservative numbers ezinearticles must have made at least $70,000.

Thats just me, 1 author. AC may be around for awhile

looks like downfall has started..they rejecting almost every content for me..

I think AC could use more people like Red.

Hopefully upfronts (even shitty ones) never die.....surely they have been around long enough to
know that their model works and they are profiting handsomely.

You are right about contacting the publication directlyLyn's payment would have gone up as she would have cut out the middle man. But the problem is that many publications has long-term relationships with article syndication services and it is more than possible that the same article may have been ignored by the editor had Lyn submitted directly as against something they picked up from AC!
As a writer, who has written for many publications---but know very little about websites---I know this for a fact from personal experience.

Originally Posted by Millygirl

Associated Content is a joke. It's a place to get started but not to continue for a long time. I went through Red's technique only because I had to teach someone how to earn money from AC and use the money for hosting/other things.

AC is simply a middle man for the most part. Earning $30 from a partner call is good on AC however, most freelance writers earn more than that. AC simply takes a cut from your payment.

Take, for example, AC writer, Lyn. She is all excited that her article was on CNN. Her article:

Code:

http://www.cnn.com/2010/LIVING/personal/02/08/tf.ideal.time.to.marry/

Looking at the article, it's not bad. Now checking out "The Frisky" website I noticed that she could have contacted them directly if she wanted to.

Code:

http://www.thefrisky.com/page/submissions/?TrackID=navbt

It does make me wonder how much she really got from AC vs what she could have earned from contacting "The Frisky" herself. How did AC split the earnings? 50-50, 70-30????

Of course, AC is a more "lazy" method for writers who don't want to contact sites, afraid to, or don't know how to approach companies with their articles.

***Oh while I'm on the subject of CNN: If you haven't done so, you should sign up at their ireport site. Even though CNN does not offer payment, the traffic from submitting an article there is pretty damn good. I submitted a few well written articles with pictures, and put "This article was written by [name] of [url].com" and got over 1k viewers on my blog the very same day and my articles continue to bring in visitors to my blogs. Please don't spam their site with crappy stuff. This is a good thing and I'm hoping to keep it good. Submit good articles and you'll get great traffic.

Ok back to AC:

AC's top writers all claim that AC gives them exposure that blogs wouldn't give and earnings that blogs don't make them, yadda, yadda, yadda. It's all lies they tell themselves.

I mentioned before, I never had a 9 to 5 job and I don't want one now. I'm doing exactly what I enjoy doing: Writing.

And earning a damn good living.

I would like to request people to stop writing for ac, since they won't pay you more than 2 - 3$ per article. It's better you write articles for your own blog, and make it go viral using facebook and twitter.

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coming back to the question, even i think that dec 2012 should be the last time before they stop giving upfront payments.

they denied all of my submitted articles too (except one review that got a lousy 2usd offer that i declined). i guess i will leave ac as it is for the moment and concentrate on other article websites/selling content directly etc.

Originally Posted by Jason_parker700

It's better you write articles for your own blog, and make it go viral using facebook and twitter.

If you have a way to automatically make an article go viral, thats a gold mine but I haven't seen it be that easy. Fill us in.

Here's the answer to your question....

look up "is" on google,
then click on the first result,
then look at the first thing there.

The other way to look at it is, if you reference your own blog/site as a 'source' in your submitted articles, AC is paying you to backlink to your own monetized webpages. Getting that up front pay is kind of like working capital to compensate you while you build your empire. If you say EZA backlinks could do that better, well,there's nothing stopping you from submitting to both, or even having them cross link to each other, to improve your rating on both directories.

Originally Posted by zebrahat

The other way to look at it is, if you reference your own blog/site as a 'source' in your submitted articles, AC is paying you to backlink to your own monetized webpages. Getting that up front pay is kind of like working capital to compensate you while you build your empire. If you say EZA backlinks could do that better, well,there's nothing stopping you from submitting to both, or even having them cross link to each other, to improve your rating on both directories.

The issue with putting a blog link as a source is a very tricky one. AC reviewers removed a few of mine even though my blog post was the same topic as my submitted article. It's better to put those articles as "Display Only".

So I might otherwise include the site link else where in the submissions, so it's not viewed as a 'source' link. I've linked from AC articles with no problems, if others are shy about it they could link instead to their EZA articles. The point is that AC upfront payments should be seen more as a subsidy for building your general IM, instead of as a profit center in itself.

This is a very interesting and helpful thread - a lot of wise advice.

guys i wanted to post articles on AC and earn though it .. i was struggling for money .. but i did a quick search before starting to write on AC and found that many people were willing to pay me more than 2$ per article ... now i get 3$ per article and i had a very dependable client (now she will be out of works soon) ... so why go for 1.5$ of AC when u can get more??

and i have a question too ... i am more a creative writer(people say i write some good ones) .. but for money i am writing all kinds of articles though ... does anyone have any ideas for earning though creative articles??

the focus is mainly because for niche article there are a lots of ways (which i am going to try very soon) .. but for creative article there are none .. and we can't earn a lot through adsense also ..

please give me reply friends ...

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