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Old 10-21-2009, 09:28 AM
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So many people from dp and bhw, go to gaf and elance thinking they can cheat people there any make money with the "free" articles or

"review copies" that they take away for free.

But here is a free gift to those guys.

Go to these freelance site, where people are looking for rewriters and are willing to pay 1$ for 500 words.

Since, Redtide released his book on making cash on ac, everyone is trying to outsource their work and get articles for 1$. But they don't know i am on gaf and freelance too.

All you need to do, is go to these sites and pm the person who placed the ads. Tell them you are a native american writer etc etc, and are willing to write 10 articles for free.

Now you will get a list of 10 articles that will fetch good money on ac.


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Re outsource the sh!t

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LOL, not a bad idea. Of course, there is the question of having a lot of angry people, lol.
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lol I don't want to send my articles to you anymore

@Millygirl my bunny is dead from hitting his head over and over again

P.S. I have about 20-30 REAL bunnys in my backyard I lowe wabits

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lol I don't want to send my articles to you anymore

@Millygirl my bunny is dead from hitting his head over and over again

P.S. I have about 20-30 REAL bunnys in my backyard I lowe wabits
LOL. Poor bunny didn't have a chance with me also.

Now, about those bunnies in your backyard, will that be soup or roasted?
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I am loving your MEOWs......nice idea. No more brainstorming
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So many people from dp and bhw, go to gaf and elance thinking they can cheat people there any make money with the "free" articles or

"review copies" that they take away for free.

But here is a free gift to those guys.

Go to these freelance site, where people are looking for rewriters and are willing to pay 1$ for 500 words.

Since, Redtide released his book on making cash on ac, everyone is trying to outsource their work and get articles for 1$. But they don't know i am on gaf and freelance too.

All you need to do, is go to these sites and pm the person who placed the ads. Tell them you are a native american writer etc etc, and are willing to write 10 articles for free.

Now you will get a list of 10 articles that will fetch good money on ac.


!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re outsource the sh!t

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey Jason...if I'm correctly reading what you're suggesting people do, we need to have a little chat.


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Default Re: Reserve engineer gaf and elance to make money with AC

sorry, if this thread comes across as completely blackhat, but thats the way thw world goes.

We exploit something or somebody everyday, either for our need or our greed.
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Since you didn't respond to my PM and only here, I assume I'm right. I take this as a direct insult by trying to target people that are using my book, needless to say it's less than appreciated.

This is where your little idea to rip off people using the book is flawed. Btw, blackhat is about being smart in your online ventures, not about trying to screw over other members of the BHW community. (98% of the purchasers are BHW members)

This is where you need to smarten up your "BH game". You've posted up here at BHW so that now anyone placing ads at these sites looking for rewriters at $1 per (as mentioned in the book and my thread) are aware of it, and will keep an eye out for anyone trying to pull this. I'll probably send out a newsletter letting everyone know about your nonsense method so that they don't fall for it as well.

Like I said in that PM, you're basically trying to scam other BHW members out of their scraped AC material based on how I'm reading your OP...if I'm wrong, point out where this is so Jason.

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don't tell me you are not cheating people, by making them write articles for 1$.
btw, people are already trying the trick out !!!

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don't tell me you are not cheating people, by making them write articles for 1$.
Here is the issue:

On one hand, Red's ebook teaches users to look for writers who are willing to write for a dollar.

Not really cheating anyone because he doesn't pull a bait and switch here. Writers KNOW right from the start the project is only a $1.00. If they don't want the $1.00 the writers can just skip over the ad for better money.

It may seem like a really low payment but it isn't cheating.

On the other hand, you are saying we answer the ads but instead of working for the advertiser, we are stealing topics/articles to submit to AC.
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what about those who like review copies ?????????
what about those who never pay ?
what about those who are currently trying the method, even before i told you something like this can be done ?

You should thank me for educating you.
In fact, you can protect your ass even better now

plus its totally upto you, to try it or not.

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don't tell me you are not cheating people, by making them write articles for 1$.
btw, people are already trying the trick out !!!

You my friend...have the IQ of a brick.

I say that not just because you would actually be dense enough to have an AC account in the exact same name as a BHW account, but because it's obviously clear that I have never "made" anyone write for a dollar. I "make" people write for a dollar?

roflmao

So, in your world it's cheating and horrible to offer someone $1 for a rewrite, but honorable and a really good idea to steal directly from other BHW members? Basically, turning them against each other?

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what about those who like review copies ?????????
what about those who never pay ?
what about those who are currently trying the method, even before i told you something like this can be done ?

You should thank me for educating you.
In fact, you can protect your ass even better now

plus its totally upto you, to try it or not.

You my friend...make the above mentioned brick look like a Calculus major

Your agenda is to get back at people who pulled this lame little ploy on you by passing it off here so that we can all be screwing each other?


Btw, your reference to "educating" Milly is just beyond ridiculious. Now you're trying to play it off like it was all just to "educate" us?


Holy crap man...you're sense of reality is freaking out there
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you won this arguement !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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lol I don't consider it an arguement myself. I'm just calling you out on your ridiculious statements. Your above response just proves my point.
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by you calling something ridiculous, doesn't really make it ridiculous. If people here have already seen success by applying this method, then he only person who is "ridiculous" is the person who tries to ignore facts by closing his eyes and telling other to do the same.


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So, in your world it's cheating and horrible to offer someone $1 for a rewrite, but honorable and a really good idea to steal directly from other BHW members? Basically, turning them against each other?
Speechless...
I am not saying that making people write for 1$ is horrible. Neither am i saying that my method is honorable. I am just saying that every person on this forum and any other forum has exploited something or someone like i said before, and those people who usually like to get things free, should be taught a lesson for cheating.


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Basically, turning them against each other?
I am not trying to turn anyone against anyone. It's just a fact, that this method is being used. Moreover, when it comes upto other methods mentioned on this forum

like e-whoring, seo, marketing cpa offers on youtube,

Everyone is "turning against each other" and we all know it. So what if another method is doing the same ?

If this method is unethical, then what is e-whoring ? Isn't that another way to steal money from people ?

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It certainly is turning BHW members against each other. You specifically mentioned buyers of my book correct? The buyers of my book are almost all BHW members trying to hire rewriters. (willing bidders that are prepared to accept $1 per article for the work)

Not being "made" to accept $1 per article as you stated above. <<< "ridiculious"

So...you're telling people (BHW members) to target buyers of my book (BHW members) and steal their content to use as their own. That IS turning members against each other.

Your own words prove your ignorance
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Ignorant man. Every shit that comes on bhw quickly becomes a part of every other internet marketing forum or torrent site. Otherwise there are bloggers who copy the same content and rehash it for their own blog/sites.

So it could be anyone practically, not just bhw members.
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You just dodge everything you get called out on don't you.

Anyway, I'm done trying to get any straight up responses from you, and therefore done with keeping your useless thread bumped. I'm sure it will just sink into obscurity.


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hey redtide, i am sorry/
lets just end this !!!
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I challenge you that no one can get 10 article free from these sites
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yeah , we can't.
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we are not asking for articles. We are asking for topics, so that we can write those articles and give it to them as review copies, which we don't.

But let's just assume that this method doesn't work at all and move on.
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lol I think it was a pretty brilliant idea to tell all the people you're screwing over exactly how you're scrweing them over. There's no way your plan will fail miserably. Keep it up!

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I want to chime in here. It was said that paying $1 for an article is like exploiting (paraphrasing of course) but this is not true. Think about it. There are plenty of people in many third world countries that have good writing skills. Many write better in English than some college grads that I know. In the Philippines professionals work for 6000 peso per month and that is considered a decent salary. a dollar fluctuates between 45 to 50 peso. Think about this for a second: A professional there lives on the equivalent of $120.00 per month. If I am paying someone $1 per article for 10 per day, haven't I just increased their standard of living? If they do 200 per month for me and perhaps another 200 per month for someone else, they just more than tripled their income!

We cannot base the amount of money that we pay on the current cost of living in the US. The reason many people work for what we pay is that it positively affects their lives.

If I can pay $1 to someone and profit $2, I can guarantee that person who wrote the article is probably getting more benefit from the one dollar than I am getting from the two that it generates for me.

This is not a blackhat exploitation, it is just a win-win for everyone.

Mexico, Thailand, Indonesia, India, and many other countries benefit from what we do.
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I want to chime in here. It was said that paying $1 for an article is like exploiting (paraphrasing of course) but this is not true. Think about it. There are plenty of people in many third world countries that have good writing skills. Many write better in English than some college grads that I know. In the Philippines professionals work for 6000 peso per month and that is considered a decent salary. a dollar fluctuates between 45 to 50 peso. Think about this for a second: A professional there lives on the equivalent of $120.00 per month. If I am paying someone $1 per article for 10 per day, haven't I just increased their standard of living? If they do 200 per month for me and perhaps another 200 per month for someone else, they just more than tripled their income!

We cannot base the amount of money that we pay on the current cost of living in the US. The reason many people work for what we pay is that it positively affects their lives.

If I can pay $1 to someone and profit $2, I can guarantee that person who wrote the article is probably getting more benefit from the one dollar than I am getting from the two that it generates for me.

This is not a blackhat exploitation, it is just a win-win for everyone.

Mexico, Thailand, Indonesia, India, and many other countries benefit from what we do.

So by your own reasoning two writers of the same skill should be paid differnet wages because of where they live?

No...the reality is that $1 articles are a PRODUCT. $5 articles are a PRODUCT and $10,$15 and $20 articles are a PRODUCT. The reason why GAF authors accept such a low rate is because they are selling a $1 product. I write for substantially more because I offer a better product, and better writers than me offer an even better product still. It has absolutely nothing to do with geographical location and its really freaking condescending and ethnocentric to say otherwise imo....even if you didnt intend it that way.
just my $0.02.

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Thanks Livinitup0 You spoke my mind. I am happy that there are more people like you who understand business better than most new-age 'global-explorers', read: global-exploiters!

I had almost left responding to such top-rated(?) biased reviewers like the one you responded to, but your response simply left me wanting to applaud! So here it is...
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Like I said in that PM, you're basically trying to scam other BHW members out of their scraped AC material based on how I'm reading your OP...if I'm wrong, point out where this is so Jason.

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If this method is unethical, then what is e-whoring ? Isn't that another way to steal money from people ?

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How is ewhoring "stealing" money? You get paid from the affiliate program, not from the "john" who signed up thru your affiliate link. So why would you associate this with stealing? I've heard a few non sequitur arguments before but this one takes the cake!
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I challenge you that no one can get 10 article free from these sites
Sure you can. You can get hundreds by posting up a few writing jobs.

The problem is that writers use these articles for examples over and over again, and if you think they are going to write you 10 on topic articles for free you're nuts (not to mention 9 out of 10 writers on GAF are terrible writers anyway).

I agree with Redtide that the tactic sucks, but it's not like Jason_parker invented some new scam, people have been ripping each other off on GAF for a long, long time.

Regardless, any writer with half a functional brain would see that one coming from a mile away. I've commissioned plenty of writing jobs there and have never ripeed off/been ripped off by anyone (programmers are a whole different ballgame). You'd be surprised how the quality of cheap workers increases when you get a reputation for being a good employer. I have 3 accounts there all with 10/10 feedback across the board.
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Thanks for posting this info. I went to your blog/website and wanted to know if you were still selling your ebook for the $17 price shown on
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I hadn't updated that page yet after it went back to its normal price. Like I've talked about in the past, shoot me a PM and I don't mind working out a payment plan if needed.


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Sure you can. You can get hundreds by posting up a few writing jobs.

The problem is that writers use these articles for examples over and over again, and if you think they are going to write you 10 on topic articles for free you're nuts (not to mention 9 out of 10 writers on GAF are terrible writers anyway).

I agree with Redtide that the tactic sucks, but it's not like Jason_parker invented some new scam, people have been ripping each other off on GAF for a long, long time.

Regardless, any writer with half a functional brain would see that one coming from a mile away. I've commissioned plenty of writing jobs there and have never ripeed off/been ripped off by anyone (programmers are a whole different ballgame). You'd be surprised how the quality of cheap workers increases when you get a reputation for being a good employer. I have 3 accounts there all with 10/10 feedback across the board.

Absolutely, and then I find that the more effort you put into building a strong relationship with your outsourced workers, the harder they're willing to work for you and the longer they'll stay with you at a low pay rate.

Keep in mind SPB that the OP's "method" isn't targeting the writers, he's talking about targeting the people that have my book and are placing the ads for rewriters. He's basically trying to get people to steal the content that buyers of my book have scraped and are trying to get rewritten. It's still a really easy thing to see through, but yeah, he wasn't talking about placing ads and then trying to take the bidders articles. I just wanted to clarify that mate.
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Keep in mind SPB that the OP's "method" isn't targeting the writers, he's talking about targeting the people that have my book and are placing the ads for rewriters. He's basically trying to get people to steal the content that buyers of my book have scraped and are trying to get rewritten. It's still a really easy thing to see through, but yeah, he wasn't talking about placing ads and then trying to take the bidders articles. I just wanted to clarify that mate.
After giving it a second read I can see that's the case. Even more of a waste of time by the OP if you ask me.

OP, it can't possibly be worth the trouble trying to get articles to rewrite from buyers on GAF. If you spent an equal amount of time gathering your own as you do trying to hijack them you'd be twice as productive. Seems like a wasted effort and a small minded approach. Just my opinion.
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This is a pretty interesting post. I have alot of feelings on everything being discussed but sometimes its better to just keep quiet and read.

I will just point out that everybody needs to keep in mind that this is a BH forum

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