CPA Cheating?

ArticleScatter · Jul 18, 2011

Alright. I have access to around 15 new people every day that would be willing to fill out some free CPA offers (about 50 per person). I'm talking about the simple email submit offer that pays $1.30 on average. You know, the kind that say 'Enter your email address to receive a free iPad 2'. What's stopping me from cheating the CPA networks if I buy traffic to keep the conversion rates below 10% and use hundreds of email submit affiliate offers to keep the amount a single advertiser would pay me as low as possible?

15 real, unique people per day * $1.30 * 50 = $975/day
$975/day split between 300+ affiliate offers = $3.25/day from each offer
Conversion rates under 10%
All the traffic will be cloaked and run through redirect pages on my VPS

Will this work? It sounds absurd, but what's preventing it from happening?

Thanks.

Kalyken · Jul 18, 2011

One word..

FRAUD

ArticleScatter · Jul 18, 2011

Kalyken said:
One word..

FRAUD

Yes, probably.
...But that doesn't answer my question.

Side note: What isn't fraudulent about those spammy CPAs to begin with? "Enter your email address to claim your $1000 Walmart giftcard!"
Right.

MikeHustle · Jul 18, 2011

ArticleScatter said:
Yes, probably.
...But that doesn't answer my question.

Side note: What isn't fraudulent about those spammy CPAs to begin with? "Enter your email address to claim your $1000 Walmart giftcard!"
Right.

They have a TOS that spells out what the person must do to get a $1000 walmart giftcard. TOS makes what they do NOT fraud.

ArticleScatter · Jul 18, 2011

MikeHustle said:
They have a TOS that spells out what the person must do to get a $1000 walmart giftcard. TOS makes what they do NOT fraud.

Aye. Well, if you want to get technical, this scheme isn't exactly fraud either. It's providing the offers with what they're asking for - unique email submits from real people. It's just going about that in a black hat manner.

pantherrush · Jul 18, 2011

You people do realize you are posting on blackhatworld, which is a (primarily) black hat forum, right?

lolzap · Jul 18, 2011

pantherrush said:
You people do realize you are posting on blackhatworld, which is a (primarily) black hat forum, right?

How many times do I have to say this?

BLACKHAT DOES NOT MEAN FRAUD

___________ · Jul 19, 2011

There won't be a single conversion, so there is your issue.

ArticleScatter · Jul 19, 2011

Thank you two for real answers.

However, I think this could work for quite some time. Eventually they would stop paying me, but I'm thinking the real follow through conversion rates on those email submit offers are VERY low to begin with. As an affiliate, the offers converts after email submission. For them, the money is made when people actually walk through the process of completing the minimum amount of reward offers (usually many, and most cost money). So, if I decided to dilute it down even further, say 15 offers per person across 500 offers (and 15 people per day), then I'm only driving around 15 submits per offer each month. I'm thinking the amount of people who run through the entire offer process spending much more money than the original offer is worth is much less than 1 in 15. If anyone could fill me in on what the conversion rates for those types of offers are on their end, I would appreciate it. I reckon it could be as low as 1% - and if it's that low, well, I could go close to a year without a lot of suspicion. And by the time they catch on and stop paying, there will be a plethora of fresh offers. Just my thoughts.

Also, bhbeer30, what do you mean by footprints? What kind of footprints would this leave?

recycler · Jul 22, 2011

Every real ppl you use is a footprint. People talk among them...

ArticleScatter said:
Thank you two for real answers.

However, I think this could work for quite some time. Eventually they would stop paying me, but I'm thinking the real follow through conversion rates on those email submit offers are VERY low to begin with. As an affiliate, the offers converts after email submission. For them, the money is made when people actually walk through the process of completing the minimum amount of reward offers (usually many, and most cost money). So, if I decided to dilute it down even further, say 15 offers per person across 500 offers (and 15 people per day), then I'm only driving around 15 submits per offer each month. I'm thinking the amount of people who run through the entire offer process spending much more money than the original offer is worth is much less than 1 in 15. If anyone could fill me in on what the conversion rates for those types of offers are on their end, I would appreciate it. I reckon it could be as low as 1% - and if it's that low, well, I could go close to a year without a lot of suspicion. And by the time they catch on and stop paying, there will be a plethora of fresh offers. Just my thoughts.

Also, bhbeer30, what do you mean by footprints? What kind of footprints would this leave?

internetlot · Jul 22, 2011

Just try to invest in PPC if you want success in CPA.

Thanks

jaysjfc · Nov 24, 2011

Im gona give u a PM soon, hope u can help

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