Ok so the story begins. I began using Google Adwords 4 years ago on a fully paid account. I put £6000 into the account over a 3 month period before getting randomly banned for no given reason. The ads were linked to my business. Anyway my business crashed without Adwords and yeah as you can imagine i was effed lol.

Anyway since then i have opened new adwords accounts once every 2 months with false direct debit information, name address etc and run up debts per account of over £20,000.

Their own fault? i think so.

My latest account opened around 5 days ago and was running really well until today when the balance hit £350 for a days advertising i was hit with a "your ads are not running, please contact us for suport" message. I sent an email as always and the account isnt under review as normally an automatic reply is sent if it is. I am trying to work out whether or not the account has been set a "hidden" daily spend limit and when it hits it i get given that message. It happened yesterday too and after midnight all went up and runnin again.

It seems a little too soon for the ads to go offline as my other accounts last over 2 months.

Also i have found that i have to use a different physical PC everytime i want to create a new account. No idea how google links them but when i use the same PC the accounts get banned automatically within minutes. I found that changing the IP isnt enough.

Anyone got experience with this method of advertising and wanna give me some help on the current account?

Also i have found that i have to use a different physical PC everytime i want to create a new account. No idea how google links them but when i use the same PC the accounts get banned automatically within minutes. I found that changing the IP isnt enough.

Create a virtual disk within your PC use it to work with your Adwords account. You probably have a flash cookie stored on your PC.

There is some debate as to whether a MAC address can be read by the likes of Google, I believe it can be, especially if you have some of their products installed on your PC such as Google earth, Google gears. So better be safe and change/spoof the MAC address as well

Yes i have been looking into this. I make sure i dont use Chrome, Earth etc on the PC i use.

We just passed midnight now so im going to see if the ads kick in again.

use VMWare to make a virtual machine and use only one instance per account.

Looking into this now. Thanks Goinviral.

The ads have gone back on again now after midnight, but if i make any large budget changes they turn off until i reduce it again. Never had this before :S

how do you run debt up to 20k without paying.. i wouldnt even think about taking it to that extent but then again u must be making shitloads if ure spending £10k.

Im at the top of Google for some of the most competitive key searches.

They accept Direct Debit as a form of Payment in the UK. Which means you often get way over 10 days of ads before the payment is declined. THen after it being declined they "re-attempt" it so giving you another 10 days. Then if you play it right you can repeat the process for months before they catch on to you.

I make around £10k a month profit from my sites.

You have to always be one step ahead of the billing system to get the optimum live time.

@ desingbafi ,sent you PM ,

Thanks

Google has banned hundreds of legitimate adword account for no reason in the past. I know so many such people who were doing nothing against adword TOS and yet there account was banned. These were people who suffered losses in their business because of it.

It feels good to know that Google is also on the receiving side in some cases like yours, with $20,000 loss and counting

They took my business down. I lost my car and everything. Even though i was legit. They told me its private why i was banned they couldnt release it. Morons.

3 years later i wonder how they feel

I might sound mean here but I hear the same kind of story all the time. I'm a professional that has managed over 100 client accounts so I know what I'm talking about. I wish to help others, although I can't really help you as you've seem to have dug yourself a hole. But others can learn from your mistakes.

You said:
>> getting randomly banned for no given reason.

First, Google doesn't randomly ban accounts and certainly for no given reason. They have reasons. The reason is always the advertiser not following their rules.

So the solution before starting a campaign is ensuring that you follow all the rules. They expect you to read and know them. Otherwise, you run the risk of being banned if you insist on following your current course of action.

I have no more empathy for those saying "I got banned for no reason". The reasons are all there. It was just a matter of reading.


>> i have opened new adwords accounts once every 2 months with false direct debit information

You admit in providing false information and you are surprised that Google doesn't want to do business with you? And then you blame them?

There is no "hidden" anything. As long as advertisers follow the rules, you have complete control over your spending and everything else in your account. So don't try to look for such things.

>> seems a little too soon for the ads to go offline

A little too soon? Look, the software is always being tweaked. They want to catch bad apples as soon as possible. I don't know how you've got this far in but it is unlikely you will ever advertise on Adwords ever again. They've finally caught up with you. Take your punishment.

Too bad your site is doing well and you're making £10k a month. With no advertising on Google, that will surely go down to a very small fraction of that. A shame you decided to go rogue. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to get back to work and help a client make another $1,000 today.

We have justice man in here !

google check MACADRESS switch of java vital machine and use proxymetron.

Account has finally gone off today. nearly 3 months after. Dont need to open another site till next year now.

Anyone wanna know the exact process of how its done PM me. Dont think it will be long until its patched.

Hi designafi, I'm really interested in knowing how you do this and try myself... unfortunately I'm unable to send PM's, would you be so kind to PM me your method???

THANKS

Hi designafi,

Can u please contact me via private message?
I also have some info the share with u

THX !

20k - that's a lot of adwords credit.

any other country allow direct debit for adwords?

Originally Posted by LucidMarketing

I might sound mean here but I hear the same kind of story all the time. I'm a professional that has managed over 100 client accounts so I know what I'm talking about. I wish to help others, although I can't really help you as you've seem to have dug yourself a hole. But others can learn from your mistakes.

You said:
>> getting randomly banned for no given reason.

First, Google doesn't randomly ban accounts and certainly for no given reason. They have reasons. The reason is always the advertiser not following their rules.

So the solution before starting a campaign is ensuring that you follow all the rules. They expect you to read and know them. Otherwise, you run the risk of being banned if you insist on following your current course of action.

I have no more empathy for those saying "I got banned for no reason". The reasons are all there. It was just a matter of reading.


>> i have opened new adwords accounts once every 2 months with false direct debit information

You admit in providing false information and you are surprised that Google doesn't want to do business with you? And then you blame them?

There is no "hidden" anything. As long as advertisers follow the rules, you have complete control over your spending and everything else in your account. So don't try to look for such things.

>> seems a little too soon for the ads to go offline

A little too soon? Look, the software is always being tweaked. They want to catch bad apples as soon as possible. I don't know how you've got this far in but it is unlikely you will ever advertise on Adwords ever again. They've finally caught up with you. Take your punishment.

Too bad your site is doing well and you're making £10k a month. With no advertising on Google, that will surely go down to a very small fraction of that. A shame you decided to go rogue. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to get back to work and help a client make another $1,000 today.

You have been drinking their Kool-Aid! I have also run ads that were banned for no explained reason and I did do thorough research on the ToS and other obscure rules. None were in violation. They have recently decided to try and stop this practice. Turns out the guys in India were not doing their jobs right and they had a quota of ads to review. Ban was easier to do since it required NO justification to their bosses. And before you flame me this came straight from the regional manager of Google. I am now back to advertising with them again. So the take away is make a friend at google to help you.

Black haters are smart

Lucid, get back in your pants man .. that's ridiculous.

best thing to do is ring them . i have adwords and running it with a nulled script website and account ent been banned had it for months ..

All I'm saying is, every time someone says "I got banned in Adwords for no reason" I come back and ask for their site. I then tell them exactly which rule(s) that got them banned and how to fix. Sometimes it's not the site but what they did in the account. It's rare that I cannot find the reason. I'm not saying Google is perfect because it's not.

Originally Posted by designafi

Ok so the story begins. I began using Google Adwords 4 years ago on a fully paid account. I put £6000 into the account over a 3 month period before getting randomly banned for no given reason. The ads were linked to my business. Anyway my business crashed without Adwords and yeah as you can imagine i was effed lol.

Anyway since then i have opened new adwords accounts once every 2 months with false direct debit information, name address etc and run up debts per account of over £20,000.

Their own fault? i think so.

My latest account opened around 5 days ago and was running really well until today when the balance hit £350 for a days advertising i was hit with a "your ads are not running, please contact us for suport" message. I sent an email as always and the account isnt under review as normally an automatic reply is sent if it is. I am trying to work out whether or not the account has been set a "hidden" daily spend limit and when it hits it i get given that message. It happened yesterday too and after midnight all went up and runnin again.

It seems a little too soon for the ads to go offline as my other accounts last over 2 months.

Also i have found that i have to use a different physical PC everytime i want to create a new account. No idea how google links them but when i use the same PC the accounts get banned automatically within minutes. I found that changing the IP isnt enough.

Anyone got experience with this method of advertising and wanna give me some help on the current account?

May I ask what your business is if you don't mind? At least what category it falls into?

I think us Blackhats don't do well with the big G, it's a fact that has been proven over and over again... your case will probably serve as a good example for me and others to never to put all our eggs in one basket.

I got banned by the big G ages ago, created a second account and got banned again. That is when I told myself that I will never use adwords again and I never did. Now I'm doing better than when I was using adwords. When there is a will there is a way.

Originally Posted by dryice

May I ask what your business is if you don't mind? At least what category it falls into?

I think us Blackhats don't do well with the big G, it's a fact that has been proven over and over again... your case will probably serve as a good example for me and others to never to put all our eggs in one basket.

I got banned by the big G ages ago, created a second account and got banned again. That is when I told myself that I will never use adwords again and I never did. Now I'm doing better than when I was using adwords. When there is a will there is a way.

+1 on this. I actually just started with adwords last week as I was hit pretty hard on this last panda chewing. I uploaded some kw's targeted intl traffic, and had the campaign going after a day. 2 days later they suspend the traffic "pending review of my account information". No idea what was going on. Two days later, it's back up and running. It runs for a full day, then I get a notice that it's suspended again. This time permanently.
When I log into my adwords account it says because they "couldn't verify my account". I used legit info, etc.

After that I get an Email from someone telling me to call the UK or Ireland for support. (I'm in the US so wtf?). I call them on Wednesday for the # I received in my initial email when signing up. The guy gives me the support #. I call that # and talk to someone named "Allison Y." She told me she seen my account was suspended and "it's only until we can verify your identity, it happens all the time, nothing to be worried about." She said she would "talk to their "specialist department" to get it resolved. I should "expect an Email by the end of the business day"

The end of the day I get this email..

After our conversation, I requested a review of your suspended account from our specialist team. At this time, I am still waiting to hear back from them regarding the status of this review.

I appreciate your continued patience as I work to get this issue resolved for you as soon as possible. I will be in touch with you via email as soon as I have any new information to update you with.

I figure ok, hopefully this can be resolved in the AM. I had only spent 10.00 of my 100 voucher that they Emailed me.

The next morning I wake up and I see this right before noon time...

Thank you for your continued patience during this process. When I received your email this morning, I consulted with our specialist team again regarding this issue. Our specialists have re-reviewed your accounts and have determined that our decision is correct and final. As a result, your account, and any related accounts you may have created, have been suspended, and your ads will no longer run on Google.

NEXT STEPS

- Our support team is unable to provide any further information on this matter.

- Please refrain from creating additional AdWords accounts, as they will be subject to the same suspension.

The AdWords Terms and Conditions state that Google reserves the right to stop running any ads when deemed necessary.

No idea what I did for them to completely ban me from using adwords but it's quite ridiculous. This is what happens when a BH tries to do WH bullshit. I love BH and am staying that way, WH is pure bullshit and you work 100x harder for half the payout.

If they give reasons people will always get a way around it because no matter how smart are their engineers in discovering users abusing the system, there will be always smarter guys out there who can still take the advantage. They make you open such thread and keep thinking about it for purpose.

Originally Posted by Scripteen

If they give reasons people will always get a way around it because no matter how smart are their engineers in discovering users abusing the system, there will be always smarter guys out there who can still take the advantage. They make you open such thread and keep thinking about it for purpose.

This is simple logic ... I make a mistake, you show me what was wrong (against their TOS) then simple if/else statement follows: If I comply you let me advertise if not you ban my account. How the fak can I know what exactly went wrong if you tell me that "Our support team is unable to provide any further information on this matter". Why is it easier to ban my account and not show me what I should do to keep it ?

I know that I can read the TOS and maybe I did, but I was unable to properly project their rules to my website and advertising method.

Bottom line, this doesn't make sense: Their TOS is public but the reason on why or how I broke that same TOS is "restricted" and that, just because they can add this statement in their Terms and Conditions "The AdWords Terms and Conditions state that Google reserves the right to stop running any ads when deemed necessary." This reminds me of the communist governments when they can charge you for breaking the law without having to explain anything for the SAME reason: Because they can!

Now I add a statement to my own personal Terms and Conditions: "I reserve the right to do whatever it takes to open brand new false adw accounts when deemed necessary." why ? You guess it - Because I can.

Finally I would somehow understand those sh1tty rules if that would even apply to everyone ... but how can I compete with guys that found ways to clearly brake their TOS if not doing that same thing?

goinviral
"use VMWare to make a virtual machine and use only one instance per account."

They can detect you're using a virtual machine and will suspend your account on the spot. The best thing to do is use another PC every adw account you open.

Now my own story follows: I got my account banned 2 yrs ago for no reason - and LucidMarketing can stick his head into the t oil et to cool off if he still thinks we need his empathy regarding this matter - and opened another account (on a friends name) using a COPY of that same website and SAME campaign and guess what ... they let me advertise it for almost 6 months until they banned my account becasue it was found to be related to another banned account (obviously the first one on my name) and NOT because the TOS. It seems that during that 6 months period I somehow messed up the computers and logged into my fist account (logged into my g ma i l not adw account but it's the same thing practically).
What can I do next if not try to fool adw - what do I have to lose next? If they wouldn't ban my account maybe right now I'd be fighting to follow their rules but they didn't give me that option so I am FORCED to do what I do.

What designafi did is G's fault and they are paying for it.

I am very much interested in the 20.000 spending account running for 3 months it must not get more crazy

Originally Posted by designafi

Account has finally gone off today. nearly 3 months after. Dont need to open another site till next year now.

Anyone wanna know the exact process of how its done PM me. Dont think it will be long until its patched.

Please PM me this information before it's patched.