Hi there,

After reading and posting some threads on whether building a micro niche empire or not. I decided to start mixing up microniche sites and medium sized websites.

Before starting on Micro niche sites I found an Ebook written by X-Factor, where he said that the best way to promote micro niche sites is using the article marketing backlinking strategy. Something like writting about 10 articles per week. As far I know search engines like Google gives no weight to article directories links; however, a webmaster could publish our articles in their websites. So I decided to find out whether that is true. So i picked some random articles titles from Ezinearticles, and Google them with quotes. What I found is that many webmaster do publish articles but they remove the links or put the nofollow attribute on them! Other, they just put a small snippet along to a link the source article. So it's WORTHLESS! Or am I picking the wrong article directory?

-I was thinking about directory submission, but many of these directories are to picky with websites with adsense links.
-Social Bookmarking? Is this think works?
-WEB 2.0 properties?
-Linkwheel?

How should I promote my microniche sites?
I am just talking about WHITE HAT techniques, I do not want to go into black hat in order to avoid any penalization for Google Adsense.

I don't use ezines, social bookmarking, RSS feeds, and linkwheels in promoting my micro niche sites but about 90% of them are ranking on the first page of Google for their respective keywords. Some have even grabbed the top spot.

I just use UAW + scrapebox for promoting my micro niche sites. I like them because they are 1.) both automated and 2.) provide sufficient backlinks for making the first page in low competition keywords. Automating my backlink system will also give me more time in making more sites.

BTW, I'm not saying ezines, bookmarking, rss, and linkwheels are not effective. I really have no idea with their effectiveness, tbh. They are just too much time-consuming for my taste when it comes to promoting low competition keywords - I'd rather make another site than waste my time writing articles for ezine or bookmarking. So yeah, it's just a personal choice.

Originally Posted by Aremys

I don't use ezines, social bookmarking, RSS feeds, and linkwheels in promoting my micro niche sites but about 90% of them are ranking on the first page of Google for their respective keywords. Some have even grabbed the top spot.

I just use UAW + scrapebox for promoting my micro niche sites. I like them because they are 1.) both automated and 2.) provide sufficient backlinks for making the first page in low competition keywords. Automating my backlink system will also give me more time in making more sites.

BTW, I'm not saying ezines, bookmarking, rss, and linkwheels are not effective. I really have no idea with their effectiveness, tbh. They are just too much time-consuming for my taste when it comes to promoting low competition keywords - I'd rather make another site than waste my time writing articles for ezine or bookmarking. So yeah, it's just a personal choice.

Thank you I appreciate your advice. However, I would not use Black HAT seo on this. ScrapeBox is powerful but spammy. By the way, what is UAW?

Originally Posted by howard_hughes

Apart from article writing, directory submission, scrapebox backlinks etc, I would suggest you comment on blogs in related niche.

20 comments a day will take hardly 20 mins a day but has great advantages -

i) Gives you good backlinks
ii) Good comments can get you traffic.

Hope this helps

Thank you I know about blog commenting. Nevertheless, I like to contribute on a blogger site instead of just spamming, so I have to read every post and that takes more than 1 minute.

Originally Posted by nikoman

Thank you I appreciate your advice. However, I would not use Black HAT seo on this. ScrapeBox is powerful but spammy. By the way, what is UAW?

UAW:
hxxp://www.uniquearticlewizard.com

If you're not convenient in using blackhat, then I suggest you find more article distribution services just like UAW for promoting your MNS or buying an automatic social bookmarking/rss software. Manual backlinking is not practical for promoting many MNS, IMO.

Fact: Google loves ezinearticle links. You'll find them appearing in your Google websmaster tools. You'll also get traffic from them too.

I'm now up to 50 niche sites. Almost all are on the front page of Google. Many are in the top 3. A bunch are #1. For the longest time the ONLY thing I did was ezinearticle backlinks. Now starting to do scrapebox runs.

Critical:matching the domain to your keyword. If the competition is low, this is all you need to get on the first page. It's funny reading all the contrarian viewpoints. Thank God I've stopped paying attention to all the bullshit out there and only do what I've found that works.

Originally Posted by biks

Fact: Google loves ezinearticle links. You'll find them appearing in your Google websmaster tools. You'll also get traffic from them too.

I'm now up to 50 niche sites. Almost all are on the front page of Google. Many are in the top 3. A bunch are #1. For the longest time the ONLY thing I did was ezinearticle backlinks. Now starting to do scrapebox runs.

Critical:matching the domain to your keyword. If the competition is low, this is all you need to get on the first page. It's funny reading all the contrarian viewpoints. Thank God I've stopped paying attention to all the bullshit out there and only do what I've found that works.

Mind if I ask how you are doing with your 50 niche sites? Me and a buddy are up to 10, however we haven't done any backlinking in like 1-2 weeks, so we need to jump back on the ball. Really, none of our sites are ranked and everything we have done has been ezine articles, goarticles, and articlebase.

Mind if I ask how you are doing with your 50 niche sites? Me and a buddy are up to 10, however we haven't done any backlinking in like 1-2 weeks, so we need to jump back on the ball. Really, none of our sites are ranked and everything we have done has been ezine articles, goarticles, and articlebase.

Is your keyword matched to your domain? If not, you've got a huge amount of work in front of you.

Originally Posted by biks

Is your keyword matched to your domain? If not, you've got a huge amount of work in front of you.

yes, every keyword we have the domain matches it perfectly except for maybe the addition of "site" or "online"

so mykeywordsite.com or mykeywordonline.com if the exact match is taken.

It's funny how much people are saying that the have all these sites and they are number 1 or in top 10 but yet they are not saying what their earnings are or how much they are making per site or all sites. Very funny, but there is no encouragement without knowing some figures. IMHO

Originally Posted by dotcum

It's funny how much people are saying that the have all these sites and they are number 1 or in top 10 but yet they are not saying what their earnings are or how much they are making per site or all sites. Very funny, but there is no encouragement without knowing some figures. IMHO

Many have said. It's around $100/day more or less. I think this strategy won't last that much. I am starting to think that one site well categorized can do it better. It will come the time when Google gives not weight on exact keywords on domains. Still, I have to test this system.

yes, every keyword we have the domain matches it perfectly except for maybe the addition of "site" or "online"

so mykeywordsite.com or mykeywordonline.com if the exact match is taken.

Well there's your problem right there. Having "site" or "online" in the URL defeats the whole purpose to getting the extra domain match juice. Where are these sites showing up? And how long have you had them up? I'll be the ones with "site" and "online" are no where to be found in the SERPs. When you get the match and low competition, you should be entering the SERPs around page 3. (if not higher)

The bad news: it's REALLY HARD finding a keyword that has good numbers, low competition and has an exact match.

It's funny how much people are saying that the have all these sites and they are number 1 or in top 10 but yet they are not saying what their earnings are or how much they are making per site or all sites.

Gee...you wouldn't be referring to ME, would ya? When I take ALL of my sites and average them out, it's about $1 a day. Split between adsense and Amazon. I didn't say I was tearing up the world with my income, but the number continues to grow as I build more.

Originally Posted by dotcum

It's funny how much people are saying that the have all these sites and they are number 1 or in top 10 but yet they are not saying what their earnings are or how much they are making per site or all sites.

Earnings per day per site is really unpredictable as it depends on many factors (competition, number of advertisers, number of searches, CPC, etc). As for my experience of having 100 MNS, they collectively earn in the range of about $80 - $110 per day. Take it for what it's worth.

Build one site and concentrate all your content and all your links into it.

With proper internal linking and structure you will boost the performance of every page far more than a mini site can do.

This also is a far more whitehat approach vs. creating a ton of tiny sites. Others have mentioned it, and they are correct in saying, you will need to use BH methods to build enough links for all of them. If you want to go whitehat, then go big.

I'd make sure your onsite SEO is good, then do some blog commenting.

Hers a gold nugget for you: you can not only submit to article directories but you can contact the other websites in your niche and do a guestpost for them with a linkback to your site: ok this one was a secret until now . i am doing the same thing for my sites: though they were microsites at one point they are now well established sites:
do check out my thread here if u want more help on getting traffic :
I will gladly help you out :
http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackha...explained.html

Originally Posted by MisterGemini

Build one site and concentrate all your content and all your links into it.

With proper internal linking and structure you will boost the performance of every page far more than a mini site can do.

This also is a far more whitehat approach vs. creating a ton of tiny sites. Others have mentioned it, and they are correct in saying, you will need to use BH methods to build enough links for all of them. If you want to go whitehat, then go big.

There is nothing wrong about creating a bunch of mini sites as long they have good content. The problem is on those sites not providing any content.

Originally Posted by billrolls

Hers a gold nugget for you: you can not only submit to article directories but you can contact the other websites in your niche and do a guestpost for them with a linkback to your site: ok this one was a secret until now . i am doing the same thing for my sites: though they were microsites at one point they are now well established sites:
do check out my thread here if u want more help on getting traffic :
I will gladly help you out :
http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackha...explained.html

That's no secret at all. But is time consuming, the think about MNS is we are against time. The more MNS we have the better.

Originally Posted by nikoman

That's no secret at all. But is time consuming, the think about MNS is we are against time. The more MNS we have the better.

The more content you have in the MNS you have the better. The only thing you should be looking to use MNS for is to find profitable niches. Once you do, build them up into super sites and forget building other MNS until you got it all nice and built up so you are making some healthy dollars each day instead of a few cents. Once you have enough time/resources to look at others, then start building them. Keep your link building alive though for every profitable one you find.

Originally Posted by MisterGemini

The more content you have in the MNS you have the better. The only thing you should be looking to use MNS for is to find profitable niches. Once you do, build them up into super sites and forget building other MNS until you got it all nice and built up so you are making some healthy dollars each day instead of a few cents. Once you have enough time/resources to look at others, then start building them. Keep your link building alive though for every profitable one you find.

The thing about this "Micro niche" matter, is that at some point there are no more related terms to go for because we are going to deep inside a niche.

Originally Posted by nikoman

The thing about this "Micro niche" matter, is that at some point there are no more related terms to go for because we are going to deep inside a niche.

I don't believe that.

I think there is always something more you can go into a niche about. Take for example black leather sofas.

History of leather
History of sofas
Why do people prefer black leather sofas?
What's so special about italian leather in sofas?
What to look for in black leather sofas

The list goes on and on and on. That is just a small sample. Even the first two I mentioned are not one pagers.

You need to get more creative with the content you are presenting on the niches you have chosen. Make your site absolutely indispensable. The only one that offers unquestionably the best content on black leather sofas, or whatever your niche(s) are.

MrGemini, that's possible, but how about minimum monthly searches estimation for those additional keywords? Is, let say, 100 monthly searches keyword woth pursuing?

Originally Posted by vlerian

MrGemini, that's possible, but how about minimum monthly searches estimation for those additional keywords? Is, let say, 100 monthly searches keyword woth pursuing?

That's 3 a day. No. The terms you go after should be 100 per day. What I talked about above are not additional keywords, they are all just broadening the scope of ONE phrase.

ok, let's dive into more 'real' example if you don't mind
And yes, I face this kind of 'problem' all the time, I believe many of us see the similar condition.

let's say the main keyword is "rakecomber 12P" (imaginary keyword)
Monthly searches is around 4000 per month (exact)

I found the follwoing keyphrases from Google keyword tool
"rakecomber 12P accessories" (400+ searches monthly)
"rakecomber 12P classic" (350+ monthly)
"rakecomber 12P parts" (300+ monthly)

Estimated CPC is $1 or more
With that stats, would you target those additional keywords?
In this case, I'm talikng about creating new articles around those specific keywords

To make this discussion more attractive (lol)
Consider the following facts for business ROI:
- Article creation $2/article
- $1 for simple link building for each article
With that simple link building we can get around 90% chance of getting in the top 3
So, total cost is $3 per additional keyword

What is your suggestion, should I grab those keywords?

PS: I'm sorry if my question is too out of topic for this thread.
I'm just paying close attention on what MrGemini wrote lately

Originally Posted by vlerian

ok, let's dive into more 'real' example if you don't mind
And yes, I face this kind of 'problem' all the time, I believe many of us see the similar condition.

let's say the main keyword is "rakecomber 12P" (imaginary keyword)
Monthly searches is around 4000 per month (exact)

I found the follwoing keyphrases from Google keyword tool
"rakecomber 12P accessories" (400+ searches monthly)
"rakecomber 12P classic" (350+ monthly)
"rakecomber 12P parts" (300+ monthly)

Estimated CPC is $1 or more
With that stats, would you target those additional keywords?
In this case, I'm talikng about creating new articles around those specific keywords

To make this discussion more attractive (lol)
Consider the following facts for business ROI:
- Article creation $2/article
- $1 for simple link building for each article
With that simple link building we can get around 90% chance of getting in the top 3
So, total cost is $3 per additional keyword

What is your suggestion, should I grab those keywords?

PS: I'm sorry if my question is too out of topic for this thread.
I'm just paying close attention on what MrGemini wrote lately

Create a primary page of rakecomber 12P.

Then create sub pages off that page in a silo fashion.

Make sure you have some good interlinking within those pages between eachother for the appropriate key phrases.

I would say you are good to go then assuming the CPC for all those terms is $1.

If that's whats reported, you are liking to see $0.25 per click.
Assume you gain 60% of that traffic would = 630 per month
Assume you get a 10% CTR = 63 clicks X $0.25 = $15.75 per month

Not exactly exciting, but you will get your money back and then some ongoing. I don't know if the time investment is worth it still.

IF however this is in addition to your primary keyword that gets 4000 a month, and these are all related to it, then I think its a good idea to do that just to make sure you maintain your position at least. With 4000 a month similar to the breakdown I gave above you would be making an extra $60 a month. My projections are conservative. They should always be.

If this is a product, you might end up making more with an affiliate offer.

Originally Posted by macdonjo3

You said you use UAW, I never thought of using United Auto Workers in my micro niche sites. Or are you making up bad acronyms?

I answered this already.

Originally Posted by Aremys

UAW:
hxxp://www.uniquearticlewizard.com