Hey Everyone,

If you want to make money with MNS...Mini Niche Sites, this is an absolute **MUST READ**

I am hear to bury the hatchet on the B.S. with MNS because I could not stand all the people blaming the method throughout this forum. And especially in hotboys thread...

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackha...che-sites.html

This originally started out to a response about MNS not working, and well it kind blew up with all my thoughts. I hope you enjoy!


Hmm... where to begin with this...it really seems as though quite a few people come in here to complain and I was at a situation at one point where i felt as though I would not be making money with this, it was a few months ago. I am finally getting closer to the 3 figure mark daily with mns so I will shed a little light on this.

Is having a big authority site with tons of backlinks and hundreds if not thousands of SEO'd pages the best route for the long term big money, Yes you could say that. Look at Wise Geek, they are a site I really am aspiring to build after. But if you think for one second that is an easy task, an easier than this you are fooling yourself.

It sounds as though you are making excuses as to why you can't make money with MNS and rather than trying to solve the problem with your methods you blame a proven business model that several other people than myself are pulling thousands and some tens of thousands of dollars a month! I am gonna make a quick list and be done with this because I sit here for too long letting to many people detour people from possibly going after making money online. I know just back in November I just discovered IM and now im already making a multiple 4 figure monthly income from adsense!

1. MNS are not easy- They are a business just like anything else and require practice and knowledge. You have to fail to succeed. Some of my first niche sites that I ever built did not make A DOLLAR! it happens. you mess up, YOU LEARN FROM IT, and you move on. As long as YOU LEARNED FROM IT...you will succeed.

2. MNS- Google will weed them out- To say "google will weed them out" is pretty ignorant. Now I am not saying I know googles next move, but my guess is as good as yours. But I will tell you 2 things within this topic.

A. It is based upon content. Ironically today i was frustrated with baking my potato, so you know what i did...i googled "how to bake a potato" and this came up THE NUMBER 1 SPOT... http://howtobakeapotato.com/ .... awww what do you know a MNS....and what's that....looks like Adsense on there. and i will tell you what, that was the best baked potato I have ever had. A 1 page site, nope not going any where, that is why google makes it number 1 ! It brings EXACTLY what the user (me) was looking for (how to cook a baked potato)

B. Google changes its algorithms every single day and the internet evolves every single day! WHO THE HECK KNOWS WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN. If everyone would stop holding back on what they wanna do because...ohhh how longs that gonna last, or ooohhhh google doesnt like that. Who is to say what the Heck is going to happen to the internet in general. What if super sonic social networking and web 8.0 take over the net and normal websites become obsolete....WHO CARES! You are here to make money today and to do it by bring value to customers just like the potato lady! If you are bringing value to the marketplace you will be compensated. If you are not making any money....SIMPLE GUYS...you are not bringing VALUE to anybody! Walmart is so big and makes so much money..you know why...because everyone shops there!

C. Google likes to make money- this one may be a shocker to you some of you. Google actually likes getting paid. You wanna know one of the ways they get paid. Through advertisers paying for PPC campaigns in which our adsense checks also come from. All these people saying Google will get mad if your CTR is this and that...MY CTR sometimes believe it or not is numbers I won't even post here because you wouldn't believe me if I told you. Google only pays you adsense revenue because they are making money, and all they care about is keeping their customers happy. If your content is pin point and you are capturing the proper audience you are doing google's advertisers a favor. If someone is looking for "pond water pumps" and they do not know much about it...they google it.... pondwaterpump.com comes up with some great information on what they are, what they do, and maybe some reviews, and that searcher clicks an ad. Do you think they are happy...YES OF COURSE! That is what googles business revolves around! That person got what they were looking for. They were not typing "pond water pumps" to find a new pair of shoes people! Google likes when they traffic converts. So if you your CTR is 10 percent, 20, 30, 40....whatever it does not matter...if that customer is finding what they are looking for, and it is converting on the other end, that is what makes the transaction perfect! OF COURSE you CANNOT control if they buy. But think about it as a business person. If the CTR was high from you niche site and maybe there was not a lot of conversions on the other end...maybe google would somehow possibly check it out...then it comes down to the quality of your content. Simple as that. MNS has a bad name because of so many CRAPPY articles being thrown up but that baked potato one is excellent. I do not think Google would be upset with that if "cooking sheets" were not converting great on the other end. Google wants to deliver quality content for their readers, its what makes them who they are! I could go on and on and I am sure I may have to from someone who still doesn't understand!

3. My search is searched 1.6434334 million times a month and I make no money...yup MNS are a scam!!! - There are a million variables in this equation and you need to start taking responsibility for 2 things...your keyword research and your adsense placement. Let me give you some advice... i first use google keyword tool, looking for over 3k a month, i then take it over to word tracker, do the same thing, and then keyword discovery...if the numbers don't match, I ain't buying! I buy when they all get over 100 daily searches...and when that happens I buy, and you know what happens after I buy, I put up a site, and a week later I am earning anywhere from .5 to to a few dollars on that one site per day! But you want to hear another crazy thing. Sometimes it doesn't work out that way...and that is life. But you know what, I do everything in my power to control my results. I don't slack and I don't blame MNS or google for my problems, it happens, brush it off and keep going. I use all the tools provided for free on this wonderful forum and I use them for every domain for niche sites and I TAKE MY TIME!

And lastly for this topic of not making any money. I have seen some of your niche sites out there, and I am not gonna pull them up for several reasons. But 43 blended adsense blocks and text links thrown all over a crappy looking page does NOT CONVERT! One block, that its, keep it the regular color, no fancy shading blending matching, just keep it simple man! It works over 20% CTR every time if you know what you are doing...please trust someone with results here.

336x280 STOCK.... All you need to know! If you want change the URL to black I dont care! Think your gonna increase your conversions by 70% by switching what I do be my guest. That's what got you to complaining in the first place, not listening to people like Hotboy in his thread who actually makes money while you make nothing.

4. Wordpress vs XsitePro - WHO CARES! I have seen xsite pro sites everywhere...they rank well..yeah no lie they do. But you know what, I don't even know how to use the dang program. I use WORDPRESS and rank top 5 every time yup! Crazy right. and you wanna know whati even crazier....I have to go on Warrior Forums on a daily basis to ask for help on how to change headers because I can barely figure wordpress out! And I made over $70 today in adsense and I was out of town with my girlfriend for Valentines Day!

Anyway, I hope this puts a lot of the BS about MNS to rest. Believe what you want, the proof is in the pudding, if I can figure it out so can you. Making money anywhere has nothing to do with a proven method, it has to do with you proving your capabilites and determination.

Stop complaining and start making money, I hear there are people who have been on here for years and make no money..it's not this forum, it is great, it is you my man...but the best part is.. YOU CAN CHANGE NOW!

Hahahahah! Too funny...I heard you upset about your baked potatos being too hard earlier from my room!! So I had to check out the thread! I'ma post this ish up on Warrior!

This long of a post defending your "buddy" Hotboy's thread which sells an ebook is very suspicious. You are hidding your head in the sand too. You are ignoring facts. No wonder we have so many newbies here posting, "I've tried everything and it failed" every day. Most of these newbies failures boil down to crappy keyword research. Not a single soul teaches propper keyword research in these ebooks. There is a lot of B.S. being sold in ebooks to unsuspecting sheep.

I say use your brain and don't fall for all the crap you see here or at least use common sense. I know you probably had your heart broken with that system but facts are facts. For example the keyword research taught in that book is done the wrong way and many people will fail with that system just for that alone. You have to test your keywords with Adwords for impressions; otherwise you are setting up yourself for failure and disappointment which is the last thing a newbie wants. Google Adwords tool was made for Adwords not for SEO. You ignore this. That's why many newbies give up when they are at the top on Google with a keyword "searched" 50K times locally and getting 10 miserable hits per month. You don't see too many people posting I'm making money with either Xfactor's or Hotboy's methods after many months. Yeah, the one post here and there about some pennies made some day, etc. and from the thread feeders. Why? Because most are doing keyword research the wrong way and are taking it without vaseline.

Adsense works just fine. I'm making decent money with my big ass site. I do my keyword research the right way and believe me, I've seen the real bullshit of that Google keyword tool. My keywords get 1000 + hits per month GUARANTEED at top listing because I test them with Adwords. Lot of work but worth it in the end. I love it when a "Not enough data" (per month) keyword turns out to be a 100 + hits per day.

Google Keyword Tool is crap for SEO. Why would Google give you the real search amount on Google.com and FREE? That information is worth trillions! They would never do that.

Originally Posted by bhjmc

This long of a post defending your "buddy" Hotboy's thread which sells an ebook is very suspicious. You are hidding your head in the sand too. You are ignoring facts. No wonder we have so many newbies here posting, "I've tried everything and it failed" every day. There is a lot of B.S. being sold in ebooks to unsuspecting sheep. I say use your brain and don't fall for all the crap you see here or at least use common sense or listen to people more experienced than you in the field. I know you probably had your heart broken with that system but facts are facts. For example keyword research is done the wrong way and many people will fail with that system just for that alone. In my opinion hotboy wouldn't recognize a T-bone about keyword research. You have to test your keywords with Adwords for impressions; otherwise you are setting up yourself for failure and disappointment which is the last thing a newbie wants. Google Adwords tool was made for Adwords not for SEO. You ignore this. That's why many newbies give up when they are at the top on Google with a keyword "searched" 50K times locally and getting 10 miserable hits per month.

Adsense works just fine. I'm making decent money with my big ass site. I do my keyword research the right way.

I believe you are misunderstanding...please read my post again! I agree with EVERYTHING you just said! (only I had nothing negative to say about Hotboy)

I am making money with adsense! Getting close to 3 figures daily after a few months!

That was the WHOLE POINT to the thread. I feel as though people regurgitate the things they have heard other people say and paralyze themselves from ever making any money! And everything I talked about was just the back and forths about everything with Adsense and their affiliation with MNS!

I think that many who bash on peoples guides to make money is doing because they make money doing the same thing and are afraid of more competition.

It's really a good method since you are putting doubt in people and what do most people that doubt things do? They start to fear that they will lose money if they follow the guide and so they don't.

Conlcusion is:
If you read threads here or some other place on guides on how to make money and many people post "This doesn't work" and you start doubting
then just do some research on the methods from the guide and reread every post in the thread and look what everybody is saying.

PS...
I haven't started doing MNS yet as I have so many other things to get done first but, I really do think there is mooney in it. From my own thinking and reading about it the last 2 or 3 years.

PPS...
If I was very greedy and wouldn't like competition I would consider finding threads related to my business module and rate it down

Fuck dude, I'm reaching $150 with this "impossible" method and I'll get to $250/day by the end of March. Why you gotta let people know this method actually works?

Originally Posted by thejunkman

I believe you are misunderstanding...please read my post again! I agree with EVERYTHING you just said! (only I had nothing negative to say about Hotboy)

I am making money with adsense! Getting close to 3 figures daily after a few months!

That was the WHOLE POINT to the thread. I feel as though people regurgitate the things they have heard other people say and paralyze themselves from ever making any money! And everything I talked about was just the back and forths about everything with Adsense and their affiliation with MNS!

Hey thejunkman, I apologize man. I jumped the gun. There was a missunderstanding. Sorry about that.

Clade, I don't doubt you are rolling in the dough. Tell us more about it. Share yar secrets man. BTW, where is that membership link? LOL.

Originally Posted by bhjmc

This long of a post defending your "buddy" Hotboy's thread which sells an ebook is very suspicious. You are hidding your head in the sand too. You are ignoring facts. No wonder we have so many newbies here posting, "I've tried everything and it failed" every day. There is a lot of B.S. being sold in ebooks to unsuspecting sheep. I say use your brain and don't fall for all the crap you see here or at least use common sense or listen to people more experienced than you in the field. I know you probably had your heart broken with that system but facts are facts. For example keyword research is done the wrong way and many people will fail with that system just for that alone. In my opinion hotboy wouldn't recognize a T-bone about keyword research. You have to test your keywords with Adwords for impressions; otherwise you are setting up yourself for failure and disappointment which is the last thing a newbie wants. Google Adwords tool was made for Adwords not for SEO. You ignore this. That's why many newbies give up when they are at the top on Google with a keyword "searched" 50K times locally and getting 10 miserable hits per month. You don't see too many people posting I'm making money with either Xfactor's or Hotboy's methods after many months. Yeah, the one post here and there about some pennies made some day, etc. and from the thread feeders. Why? Because most are doing keyword research the wrong way and are taking it without vaseline.

Adsense works just fine. I'm making decent money with my big ass site. I do my keyword research the right way and believe me, I've seen the real bullshit of that Google keyword tool.

help everyone and explain the proper way to do keyword research

Excellent post. Noobs that aren't making money with this method are probably over thinking it. If you have a twist on the proven method's posted here, use it in a few of your sites. See if they work for you, but keep making sites that follow the method in the forum or ebook.

Originally Posted by 13future

help everyone and explain the proper way to do keyword research

It's nothing out of this world or new. Test your keywords for impressions ONLY on Google Search first page (NOT the content network) with a Google Adwords account and a crappy ad. It will save you a lot of headaches and disappointment in the end. Do you keyword research right even if it takes a bit more time and you'll really hit the jackpot.

Look, this book shared in this thread will help you with all your keyword research and includes the method I'm talking about: http://ewenchias.info/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=6758&p=9385&hilit=How+to+Disc over+Profitable+Keywords+With#p9385 I bought it I think 2 years ago but it was nothing new to me. I'm heavily into keyword research so I'm always buying or downloading anything keyword research.

Open an account there and check the download in the thread. If you didn't have an account at Yorije shame on you :-) When things get to "SEO" (you know where..."you've been banned for the following reasons...", the Iranian boys... although that place is very close to my heart LOL!) and under lock, Yorije almost never fail to have it available to the public.

uh..that was a good read..sorry for my stupid comment ,,i m bit high......n bhjmc,why are you filled with so much negavity bro..you need to get some booz and rubber..and meditation

Originally Posted by bhjmc

It's nothing out of this world or new. Test your keywords for impressions ONLY on Google Search first page (NOT the content network) with a Google Adwords account and a crappy ad. It will save you a lot of headaches and disappointment in the end. Do you keyword research right even if it takes a bit more time and you'll really hit the jackpot.

Look, this book shared in this thread will help you with all your keyword research and includes the method I'm talking about: http://ewenchias.info/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=6758&p=9385&hilit=How+to+Disc over+Profitable+Keywords+With#p9385 I bought it I think 2 years ago but it was nothing new to me. I'm heavily into keyword research so I'm always buying or downloading anything keyword research.

Open an account there and check the download in the thread. If you didn't have an account at Yorije shame on you :-) When things get to "SEO" (you know where..."you've been banned for the following reasons...", the Iranian boys... although that place is very close to my heart LOL!) and under lock, Yorije almost never fail to have it available to the public.

i remember you saying keyword research tools that we use are bs since they are made for ppc),can you plz suggest what too should we refer to. qoestion mark

Originally Posted by clade

Fuck dude, I'm reaching $150 with this "impossible" method and I'll get to $250/day by the end of March. Why you gotta let people know this method actually works?

Hahaha!

It was really getting to me man, seeing so many people come in and out of MNS so hopeless, and then you had so many jerks bashing them saying..."See that's what I have said the whole time it doesn't work"..."this only works if your xyz person and that xyz person....!

I know ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about IM back in November when I got started, and if I can make thousands of dollars in a month in a short period of time through white hat adsense MNS methods, I know anyone can! I just wanted to help and show people there is light at the end of the tunnel and every single person has different learning curves just do NOT listen to these people trying to steal your dreams away from you and NEVER give up!

Where google keyword tool shows 4,400 search, keyword discovery shows 18 search. I don't get it?

Is google keyword search results are fake?

Originally Posted by sarderiftekhar

Where google keyword tool shows 4,400 search, keyword discovery shows 18 search. I don't get it?

Is google keyword search results are fake?

Go to the url I posted above and download that ebook. It will answer that question and more. That's "one" of the best ebooks on keyword research I have ever read.

Originally Posted by thinkinghat

i remember you saying keyword research tools that we use are bs since they are made for ppc),can you plz suggest what too should we refer to. qoestion mark

Both, Google Keyword tool and your Google Adwords Account. GKT to get the keywords; my
Google Adwords account to verify search amount. I use both of them for different purposes. Check that book on the url I posted above. Everything will be crystal clear to you after you read it.

mns is just another way to make money

MNS seems fine to me. You only need to twist a little bit to be different.

about time someone wrote it out again.

it's all about a business that provides the enduser with the best content possible, in exchange we get to place adverting on it.

Originally Posted by clade

Fuck dude, I'm reaching $150 with this "impossible" method and I'll get to $250/day by the end of March. Why you gotta let people know this method actually works?

shame on you clade, you should already be at 300. Go back and read the thread. you are working to hard on the "linkwheel" and go the basic route. LOL, well actually do whatever you feel works and stick with it. "a bird in hand is worth 2 in the bush"

Money's there folks, I took 4 sites with only $60.00 and made slightly over 100 on the first month, and adsense is telling me that I got 100 already banked for this month, so you are all over-thinking this.

good luck to you all

Originally Posted by billygood

about time someone wrote it out again.

it's all about a business that provides the enduser with the best content possible, in exchange we get to place adverting on it.

No doubt man!

thejunkman has helped me out quite a bit by giving me some great direction on where I should be starting. I don't even have 1 site up yet, and have just recently decided to make adsense a new stream of income to help diversify things a bit more.

His advice is enough to get me started in the right direction and move toward 3 to 4 figures a day (which is my goal).

I will be doing mix of MNS sites and larger sites which will be tightly niche based on areas of extreme interest/passion for me.

thx thejunkman

Your very welcome btw man! feel free to ask any more questions..I love helping out!

amen brotha!

MNS is slow at first but once you get the ball rollin'...there's no easier way to make money online!

I <3 G00GLE!

Originally Posted by bhjmc

Google Keyword Tool is crap for SEO. Why would Google give you the real search amount on Google.com and FREE? That information is worth trillions! They would never do that.

hahahaha what an idiot!

Anyone have any ideas on what to do when u reach 200 max channels? I'm currently running on my friends adsense and close to 200 channels filled already lol. cause my own adsense ib anned.

Originally Posted by supamanjon

Anyone have any ideas on what to do when u reach 200 max channels? I'm currently running on my friends adsense and close to 200 channels filled already lol. cause my own adsense ib anned.

look for the answer in the 300 thread, it's discussed by me at lengths

yeah billygood has written some great tips on adsense techniques in that thread!

feel free to ask anything though!