You don't need anyone particularly skilled to do this. All you need is a basic data entry person who understands HTML. Put it in the data entry section and specify you want someone who can update web content. You should be good to go.

I'm bit of a lurker on this site these days since I'm working a lot now but Wow these elaborate linking plans sound way to time consuming. My word of advice is streamline your process you'll be a lot happier in the end. Automate and Outsource as much backlinking as possible. I don't waste time with manual backlink process because it slows down my ability to do research. Research is the most important thing and most time consuming plus the only thing I will not outsource. For me time is valuable. I guess if you have all day to build links then go for it and save some coin. I for one do not have that type of time. Being Organized using some type of content management software or system helps increase your workflow as well. In addition keeping your system running at top speed at all times is very, very important. Time wasted waiting for loading is money. DeFrag and increase ram if need be...

With these types of sites you want to going back to the first step as fast as possible and never use WP for these types of sites. I don't know why people think that's such a great idea. Sounds like a slow down to me. HTML is the way to go...You can build and upload these types of site way, way faster. They load faster and they take up little space on your host. There more then half the size of a WP site. So when you get to over 1000+ it's easier to manage. Easy to transfer or delete... WP is clunky for this type of situation. Just optimizing alone is way, way to time consuming. My Business Rule to live by "Streamline Your Process and Increase Productivity"

That's my two cents... Thanks for an interesting read..

A bit of disinformation here. I agreed with everything you said until you slated wordpress

You can install wordpress sites now with one click. You dont need to install a database and then upload the script anymore. There are plenty of tools which automate the whole process. In fact there are tools which automate the installtion and configuration to exactly what you want, so no wordpress is not slower for this kind of thing.

Also Wordpress needs zero optimizing for SEO if you use the right theme with the right plugins. With the new google caffiene update, blogs are winning the war. Regular updated content is going to be the way forward. How do you plan on updating 300+ sites with new content? FTP?? lol

Wordpress can drip feed content into the system over a period of time so the site looks like it's constantly being updated. It then tells google it has new content by auto pinging the new articles so Google comes and has a look. Perfect!

With regards to hosting you can have 100+ installations on a reseller account which costs $20 a month. I would really hope that just one site earns you back that in a month and that you didnt just tell everyone to put 1000+ sites all one one hosting because that is crazy. Spread your sites out. Not only do you spread them out over more ip's you also spread the risk. If 1 host goes down for a day you don't lose the income for all those sites.

Thanks for posting a update....I look forward to following the progress of your sites

Hey Hotboy, put the steps in a word document, attach it to a project on Odesk and has it as a fixed price project.

Now pick a provider that has similar experience, and make sure they have at least 4.5 feedback.

OR

Create a custom CMS where you can have your writer login, post your articles, hit "Generate Site" and the site will be there, dynamically.

Option #2 is what I'm working on right now and should be ready by end of next week.

Option #1 is what I'm doing temporarily waiting for #2 to be ready.

Holla!

Clade i know they do different things, i have used UAW before, what i am saying is overall usefulness. I know that if i can spin an article in TBS in just 15 minutes that would more useful because i can then post it to different directories and web 2.0.

Unlike UAW where i need to spend at least an hour or more spinning the article (unless you outsource), and then you can only post the spun article in UAW. But UAW can drip your posting and that is the only difference, but i can do that on my own so i dont need to pay 67usd a month.

Please let me know where I can find a someone to write articles for $2 (500 words)?

thanks

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NO one will give up their source. Just go on elance an find someone in the USA or UK who is desperate to build up some positive feedback.

In fact I had a guy from Philipines writing articles for me. But for some reason they guy disappear.

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Writers are 2 a penny dude, just go and find someone else.

What type hosting should I use for auto blogs? Should I start with regular hosting?

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Thank you Im posting one today.

P.S. Let me know when ever you finish up on step two, that would be a smart purchase

"If you want to move in into a "whiter" method then senuke is as close as your going to get"

Link Dozer, while certainly more work, is FAR better.

Get the Google Analytics Plugin.

RayRay7 - for unique article wizard- do you do 3-4 articles per website or total and just rotate the resource boxes?

Market Samurai

I have 400 of these sites up now and they're earning me a good amount. My weakness is definitely back linking though. Seems like that is everyones main problem though with these sites. It's hard to build valuable links to sites that no one would actually want to link to.

So you do link exchanges for your sites? I can just imagine how hard it is to get quality link exchanges for 400 sites

Thats great, backlinking is most difficult task of this method especially when dealing with a large amount of sites.

On another note a lot of people dont really get the magnitude of the amount of money you can earn with a large number of adsense sites....thinking on a smaller level if you have 300 sites with each page only making you 25 cents a day with 4 pages to a site thats 9,300 a month

or say you have 300 sites with 4 pages to a site and your only getting .25 cents a SITE......thats 2,325

So lets get to work people and start making some money.

I have looked at the title of this thread on several visits to this forum. I still cannot figure out why you would want to build 300 adsense sites. The time you would need to invest in getting traffic and valuable backlinks to make any significant amount from these sites seems impossible

Why is building 10 good quality, multi-paged niche sites and spending time optimizing these not an option. With some dedication you could be getting $20 from each of these sites.

So you host these sites on hostgator or where ? and how do you get traffic to them do you use any tools on this forum or do you have some new ones ? please do tell ! Plus is all your articles unique or do you use plr articles ?

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Backlinking is definately the most difficult task.

Once you get used to the keyword research it's easy to pump out sites quite quickly. I have been using Adwords keyword tool and allintitle google search, does the job if you use your head. Really need to get market samurai though!

Anyway, I only started this a couple of weeks ago, I already have a content writer from freelancer, i've 6 sites online and have maybe 10 more waiting to go online.

Hopefully if they start making money I will keep going and should have 50 online in the next few months, that's the first target.

For people who want to start this I highly recommend getting someone to write the content, you can get a the content for $2 a page on freelancer... maybe less.

But like hotboy said the most time consuming part is backlinks.

Anyway if I can do this anyone can, i'm no expert. I will let you know how i'm doing in a few weeks when the sites have hopefully climbed google!

@hotboy - just out of interest how much were you making a day when you were at the 50 sites mark?

I actually put up about 50 sites first that I manually researched. Everything went well in terms of getting ranked and such.

Then I did some keyword mining and generated a huge list of keywords and analyzed it used the first 50 sites as a sort of filter for competition levels, etc.

Now I have a list of over 6,000 keywords with exact match domains available (perfect match) that are all perfect for this method. The additional 350 sites I did were just the highest traffic results I found.

I'm actually not going to be making anymore of these sites though. I think Google is going to crush this whole party soon. I hope I'm wrong but there are SO MANY people doing this now and well, you know the saying.. when it's too good to be true. I might be missing out on millions of dollars by not continuing but I'm happy with some other stuff I'm doing instead.

Earlier today I was thinking of writing a program to use that list of 6,000 keywords and analyze the existing sites on the domains that are taken. For example, a .org might be available but the .com and .net are taken. When I manually check them they're the same XFactor type sites. So I have a list of thousands of XFactor sites and I could analyze their backlink sources and where they rank for the keywords they're targetting to determine which sites are commonly used for backlinks on the sites that are sucessfully ranking well.

I'm so lazy though this probably won't get done for another 5 years.

It's kind of funny though because I did manually look through about 50 sites and the ones that were ranking the best were using sites they ran to link to themselves. Like they would have 20-30 sitewide backlinks from a single blog that was obviously run by them solely to get links. Their "blog roll" would have a list of 50 of these types of sites on it.

If I wrote a program to harvest the backlink sources from those thousands of XFactor sites I know about, for example if the backlink is from ezine what other articles does that author have and what are the keywords/sites they're linking to, and on and on.... I'd probably be able to discover 10s of thousands of these sites. I imagine Google is already on it... I'm still not sure what they think of these sites though, they do provide relevant content and such to the searchers if they're done well and they're a good platform for ads since they're so commercial I imagine the advertising clicks are converting well.

Oh and one last mention.. my Amazon affiliate referrals makes me an equal amount of money to AdSense but I don't use text links I use the widgets.

You never can be too sure with google. I've been making sure the sites I put out are done well so hopefully i'll have no problems myself in the near future.

But like you said there seem to be so many people doing it you have to think they'll catch on and do something, fingers crossed they don't.

As for amazon, i've also got it on my sites... like you mentioned they have some good widgets etc... and good to hear you've made money from them as I wasn't too sure about them!

I think this guy left the forum, but he wrote the above at the end of December. Did he actually follow through with trying this?

Outsourcing articles can be expensive, and you'll end up having to once over them. I'd rather use The Best Spinner for now. Articles don't take that long and you can make sure they're good quality.

I heard that Amazon affiliate links lower adsense CPC. Watch out.

Yes- that is my goal, but as i look at my UAW records, i have some sites with 5,6,7,8 articles and some with only 2.

I just use the three resource box and they rotate them as it is submitted.

@azxten,

hey I could not agree more with you on pretty much everything you wrote in your long post above... Here is my opinion on MNS:

- first of all, they are not MNS but rather classic MFA. Made For Ad$ense, or very close to that borderline. This means they are against TOS and may not survive their manual review. Since G is doing mandatory manual review before sending your first payment, I think it is better NOT to build a lot of MNS sites BEFORE you receive your first check. Build a few better quality sites first, earn your first payment, and you should be safer that way. This is my opinion.

- to me, I need my account for whitehat sites, so I am not going to build an army of MNS sites for sure. Maybe a few just out of curiosity mainly for SEO researching purposes.

- I agree with @azxten and my feeling is that G will start cracking down on MNS sites to avoid people flooding SERPS with MNS. And since MNS are against G's TOS (MNS = MFA), they will start banning accounts left and right. In fact, the number of threads complaining about Ad$ense bans is already increasing. Even if you manage to get a new Ad$ense account, you may not be able to put it back on the same old whitehat site, because whitehat site got blacklisted together with your first account. So no more Ad$ense for that white hat site. What if you have put 5 years in building that site?

- If I would decide to put onliine an army of MNS, I would seriously consider Amazon as monetization source, because they will NEVER ban you for violation of G's TOS. Also, I would cloak Amazon links (not render Amaz links when visitor is coming from G's IP range), unless the site has lots of other content. Otherwise, your MNS will be sandboxed by G. I learned this from my own experience, when one of my 1-page pilot sites was getting traffic but got sandboxed immediately after putting up an amazon affiliate link related to site's audience. Probably you would need at least 10 large pages of content before you could put known affiliate link (CJ, Amaz, etc) openly and avoid being sandboxed as "th1n affiliate"

- I think that X-Factor is a fictional person who was created by some of GoDaddy's evil marketing brains Just kidding

How is that working for you? I've been using their system without much success, but was only using one article for 10 sites per month.

Yeah its important to try and make your site look as less like a thin affiliate site as possible. The rule is if you were to remove all the ads and references to affiliate programs on your site and just have content, would the site still be useful to anyone visiting it?

A very interesting article here about how you can make your sites look less spammy.

http://www.associateprograms.com/art...in-affiliates/

A good strategy is to have product reviews, price comparrisson style content on your site that offers the reader real and useful insights.

Its probably a bad idea to get your writers to just churn out spammy looking articles that just talk complete shit about a subject and then just inject the keyword in for good measure so that the pages rank well.

I've hence instructed my writer to actually write me good quality reviews instead of the keyword articles we originally planned to hammer out.

Although I would agree with this to an extent, the whole idea of these micro niche adsense sites is to get your visitor to click on the adsense ads.

If you have just a simple content article that is keyword optimized you can hopefully get visitors, when these visitors come to our sites all we want them to do is click the adsense ads. If you make the site to informative the reader will simply not click these ads.

I prefer to have a content article that is especially written for seo purposes once I get on 1st page of the big G, then I let the ads do there work.

I don't think MNS sites are dead just yet. Google has repeatedly stated their goal is to have their top 10 SERPs a variety of results. For product sites, the top 10 is filled with mostly stores, therefore G would welcome an information/authority site. If G doesn't like MFA sites, does Ezine Articles rank well?

In your very first thread you mentioned $27.000 within three months with 300 sites.
This was six months ago. Let's wait and see about what "magnitude of amount of
money" you will be talking in autumn.
By the way: as always I read tons of posts about "how to, where to, when to, what to".
I haven't read one single post like "here is the proof, that this systems works".
Instead, I read one post where someone said he's making
2 or 3 dollars a week (with a lot of mini niche sites). The answer that guy
got was: "Read everything again from the beginning!"
This is very encouraging.
The complete thread appears to me like an event of a religious sect.
Everybody is determined to believe ("Make 27.000 bucks per month "
"Oh, yeah, we will!" ) but if you hesitate to believe you will be gettin insulted by all other
members of that sect.

I don't care if hotboy is making some bucks with selling an ebook ... but
I simply don't believe that this system works as it was described six months ago and
as it was described today (But Hotboys latest post is coming a little bit closer to reality).

One short word abou Google! Of course they can crush the party whenever
they want.
Does someboy remember a tool call "Traffic Equalizer"? It was the greatest
hype in 2004/2005 (and it made some money for people who used it).
Then Google stopped ranking the sites which were created by "Traffic
Equalizer" and the empire collapsed like the soviet union within weeks.
Do you honerstly think Google has no idea that now there is software
like SENuke or scrapebox. If Google descides that links from blogs/forums
will not be counted anymore the party is over. If they furthermore decide
that article directories are a collection of useless crap (that is what they did
in Germany) with links to more useless crap the complete "Back Link Wheel
System" will crash.
And there you go with your 1.567 mini niche sites...

ecki, I agree with you somewhat, but I wouldn't express it as strongly as you did.

This "system" works. I've been trying it for a year, before any of this shit became popular. But I have not gotten it to work nearly as good as some people are saying. If you took all my sites and averaged their earnings, then it's like $0.15/day per site.

Getting a site to $3/day takes me a LOT of work, that I just cannot automate on a large scale. I am lazy and dumb, but I don't know if I'm THAT lazy and dumb. I have dozens of sites on page 1 for keywords getting 3k-50k searches a month. I have several top 3 spots. It's still not enough.

I'm at around 200 sites now, making ~$40-50 per day with them. Oh, and the problem is not CTR, it's getting enough traffic. I get around 700-800 impressions per day across all my sites.

So, fine, people will say I'm doing it wrong. But I'm really not going to listen to you unless you have actually TRIED doing it like I have. And if you started in 2005 then it doesn't count.

I've been testing this method too. I'm now up to around 60 sites.

Backlinking is the easiest part for me because of my personal methods, all of my niche sites have thousands of high quality links (No spamming involved at all, totally whitehat).

I believe that Google values domain age though, and since all of my sites are still quite new, I'm mainly playing the waiting game. Got the links, just need to keep at it.

About 10 of my sites are ranking on page 2 after 1 - 2 months. I check the rankings of them all every week and am finding that they are increasing slowly.

I am making some money, quite surprising considering none of my sites are ranking on the first page for their key term yet. I'm earning around $3 - $5 a day. Confident for the future.

I am reading the thread, but I missed the template.

Please help

What are your thoughts on using YSM for this instead of adsense?

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Thanks for the info about SENuke and LinkDozer, have looked into both of them.

Btw, Hotboy - in one of the posts you talk about your backlinking strategy. That's a lot of BL! Hmm...

Futhermore, this was already covered - set up an LLC, a separate company, etc.

I run this in Google (Quote:
Originally Posted by nam6641
not sure i understand this sentence... could you explain this a bit more? are you running this /ref_2009**.html in SENUKE, in MNF, in Google?
And what do you mean 'referral hits'.

Thanks.
I love when someone reads.

OK it's simple, we will use 4 slice toaster as the theme LOL

go to google and run a search "toaster" + "/ref_200912.html"
the 200912 is year and month
toaster is the keyword search

Now you have your results, run your scraper so as to get the domain names. ( you'll need about 250 ish to start )

then clean the data quickly ( I do it by eye )
the copy the domain names to any program like PRstorm. and bang out 5 per keyword phrase, go down the line. your basic hitboy style domain has about 12 to 24 basic keyword phrase right off the bat.

now if you want to get fancy, you do the following:
first of I happen to like macros and I use macro express ( use whatever flavor you like ) and we are working with 1 domain only.

now using a spreadsheet set up the following, the keyword phrases in column 1, with domains scraped in column 2, and make sure column 3 has the right referral link ( you will do deep link referrals ). Column 4 and 5 I insert a code 01 to 13 meaning each week of the year quarterly, and A-G for Monday to Sunday. all I do is copy and paste down the column to the end for column 4 and 5.

since this is your first set up, you'll need to export the file to comma delimited file.

after this your macro will follow this basic setup.

a) load program prstorm
b) read text file, if today's date = week,date code then copy data in that row
c) paste data into prstorm
d) do again until end of file
e) run prstorm
that's it, you'll grab about 2 to 6 links for that day for that domain.

Mine is slight more complicated I have more domains to manage: here are the added steps that you need,
you'll need to have another list of all the domains that you manage and the filenames with the 5 columns and file-locations

now these are the added steps
a1) read file name location of first domain
f) prstorm done - exit program
g) get next file name location and do it again .


Yes it was hard in the beginning, but over time it got easy, now after each domain is done, I just added it to the list and lest the computer do it's thing all day. you never end up hitting the same domain more than 6 times in a day, and if you have proxies, then you never use the IP address more than 1 time per month. ( yes you'll need 30ish proxies )

the best part about this is that you are low to the radar and the links just build up.
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OK. I run this through Google ("toaster" + "/ref_200912.html") and get 2 results one of which is a reference to this thread. ??????????????

Where do I get a scraper?

The best spinner is the best.

Paying family members may sic the IRS on 'em.

very great tips... thanks dude

yes I did, and I made it slightly different, look for where I was working with a budget of 60.00 and 30 minutes per day. I designed the idea on the basis that you guys are all in college and need some spare spending cash.

no I am not back, just passing by

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