Thank you themagician you are exactly right I was just relating to the two I have done the best with I think I made some people mad because I posted this,but I just wanted to give my insight to the two places I use the most I have an excellent dropshipper out of Singapore who sells me Ralph Lauren polos for 9 dollars a piece that I in turn sell for 29.00 at my physical store front that I got off of Dhgate The key to it is to research the suppliers thoroughly I also get Nike shox from a guy for 25.00 I sell all day for 50.00 and the powersellers union I have gotten womens tops at 8 of them for 20.00 ,and alot of electronics the thing is people on the internet do not want to give up there sources and they get mad if someone else does because they are afraid that they will lose a sell online I believe quite the opposite there are millions of items being sold daily and it is childish to get mad if someone tells the secret I remember a couple years back when I had gotten into drop shipping It took me forever to find a decent site and I think that is wrong! I believe that everybody is just trying to make a dollar and survive and we need to help each other so I have no problem letting the "secret sites out "and if people dont like it too bad as I said before if I can save or make someone else some money then I have not done one thing wrong! I see alot of people on here talking about how good Doba is and drop ship designs when I know good and well that they are just scam sites.Go to google and type in Doba scam and see what comes back or drop ship designs scam and you will get a million hits .If I offended anyone by telling the truth about a couple sites I dont care and if anybody wants to know where to get any products from I will gladly tell you.